[00:05] <Sta1nless> 8[00:25] <Mike31> Hey all. I just installed Kubuntu and now I am stuck at the loading screen. It passes BIOS and I can enter BIOS, but the OS will not boot
[00:26] <Mike31> I am on 21.04
[01:00] <Mike31> no it just shows my ROG screen but nothing else
[01:02] <Mike31> I have a ROG motherboard
[01:11] <Mike31> thanks ill give it a try
[06:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:58] <sacarde> hi
[07:58] <sacarde> I search a package like audio-recorder for kubuntu
[07:58] <sacarde> what do you suggest me?
[09:03] <tomreyn> sacarde: a web search for "record audio kde" returns "kwave" as the first result
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 do you know kubuntu sytem requirements (re @IrcsomeBot: <tomreyn> sacarde: a web search for "record audio kde" returns "kwave" as the first result)
 can i intsall kubuntu on 2gb ram and intel inside laptop
 can i install kubuntu on 2gb ram and intel inside laptop
[09:53] <archetech> yes but may not run great   deps on the cpu/gpu
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[10:51] <Ermine> Hello, I've got a BUG with nvidia propietary driver while attempting to suspend computer: https://pastesite.org/view/1312eb60
[11:28] <Mekaneck> Ermine: if you found a bug please report it on Launchpad
[11:59] <Ermine> Mekaneck: Is 'nvidia-drivers-ubuntu' a correct place for this bug?
[12:09] <tomreyn> Elchin: you'll want a minimum of 4 GB RAM with Kubuntu, I'd say. I do not know what the official system requirements are, but a web search will probably tell you.
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 Hi BlusKaj
[12:56] <BluesKaj> @Halis, hi
 How it's going?
[13:37] <BluesKaj> ok here, and you?
 İ am also ok 🙃
 Does anyone know if plasma-workspace-wayland is ready for productive usage? (re @IrcsomeBot: <mparillo> You can install Wayland. Somebody will correct me, but I think if you install plasma-workspace-wayland and reboot, SDDM will automagically show you a wayland option)
[13:52] <BluesKaj> mparillo, is quite knowledgable so if you're adventurous you can try suggestion...personally I haven't bothered with wayland yet.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> his suggestion that is
 İ recently got informed that every running process in X11 desktop can read your keystrokes and that it is very insecure. This is why İ am asking
[14:09] <BluesKaj> never heard that before
[14:37] <smr1b_> hola
[14:39] <smr1b_> hola
[14:39] <smr1b> Hola?
[14:39] <smr1b_> siis
[14:40] <smr1b> Te han pillado hablando?
[14:40] <smr1b_> maaburrooo
[14:40] <smr1b_> noo?
[14:40] <smr1b_> noo
[14:40] <smr1b> digo jugando
[14:40] <smr1b_> creo k no
[14:40] <smr1b> Almenos el ha dicho de quienes sospecha y no ha sido de ninguno de nosotros
[14:41] <adriiangj014> eso e vrda menos mal el k estaba juango 100% era el k jugo con nosotros al 1v1
[14:43] <smr1b> ya ves menos mal
[14:43] <BluesKaj> !es
[14:44] <smr1b> Porque cuando te pillan una vez la has cagado
[14:44] <adriiangj014> po si ya te tiwnwn fichao poer vaya menos mal y sienpre estoy jugando yo
[14:44] <smr1b> Si
[14:45] <smr1b> una vez te pillen la has cagado porque siempre estan pendientes de ti
[14:46] <BluesKaj> !ops
[14:46] <adriiangj014> la vrda pero nose como no m a pillao alomejorha sio pork no ha entrado del todo
[14:47] <smr1b_> ssbsbsbsbsdb
[14:47] <smr1b__> manueh
[14:48] <adriiangj014> la manita relaa manue
[14:53] <BluesKaj> thanks RikMills :-)
 @BluesKaj https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/4641/why-are-people-saying-that-the-x-window-system-is-not-secure/4646
 Or here (since a forum is not really a good source):
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(display_server_protocol)#Differences_between_Wayland_and_X
 İn short (copy and paste):
 X11 is not secure and has severe conceptual issues like
 any client connected to the X server (either remote or local) can read all input events
 any client can get information about when another window rendered and get the content of the window
 any client can change any X attribute of any other window
 any window can position itself
 many more issues
[16:17] <hasan> hi
 Hi hasan
[17:23] <brian_> hello, i have been looking around to try and figure out how to remove old kernels and they all seem to claim to do apt-get remove linux-image-???  but my problem is that when i run this command it seems to want to install another kernel in its place at the same version number.
[17:25] <brian_> also the links used for initrd.img, vmlinuz now seem to point to this old kernel and not the one that is currently printed out via uname -r
[17:25] <brian_> i have not rebooted yet. lol
 Does not "sudo apt autoremove" remove it automatically?
[17:25] <brian_> no it just says there is `0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.`
 Hmm, İ do not know then
[17:26] <brian_> i can go into the /boot dir and start `rm -f` things, but that does not seem like the correct way
 What OS version are you using?
[17:29] <tomreyn> nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version_signature,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)
[17:29] <tomreyn> this would tell
[17:30] <brian_> https://termbin.com/3sxz
[17:31] <tomreyn> and what's in /boot now?    ls -l /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:32] <tomreyn> and which kernels are installed?    apt list --installed linux-* | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:33] <brian_> vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-5.11.0-17-generic    << after I ran sudo apt-get remove linux-image-unsigned-5.11.0-17-generic  im seeing this
[17:33] <brian_> let me get that list. thanks
[17:33] <brian_> https://termbin.com/ym9a
[17:35] <tomreyn> i did not exactly understand your answer to the question of what's in /boot now
[17:35] <brian_> whats in boot now:  https://termbin.com/cs066
[17:36] <tomreyn> according to apt, linux images and initrds for kernels 5.11.0-17 5.11.0-34 5.11.0-36 5.11.0-37 should be in /boot now
[17:36] <tomreyn> and that's the case, plus some others
[17:37] <tomreyn> ist is unusual that the vmlinuz symbolic linki points to the current kernel image when you have never ones installed, though
[17:37] <brian_> the initrd.img and vmlinuz links now seem to point to an older kernel
[17:40] <tomreyn> you have linux-generic and linux-image-generic installed. my understanding is that those should cause the symlink to be updated to point to the latest kernel image as soon as new ones are installed and an initrd is produced for them
[17:40] <brian_> when i try to remove an older one, apt-get is showing this: https://termbin.com/h6gz
[17:45] <tomreyn> brian_: is "secure boot" enabled for this system?
[17:45] <tomreyn> sudo mokutil --sb-state​
[17:45] <alkisg> I think that happens when you install an older kernel (after a newer one)
[17:46] <brian_> secure boot is disabled Platform is in Setup Mode
[17:46] <tomreyn> vmlinuz.old vs vmlinuz seems to suggest that this has been done
[17:47] <alkisg> Don't remove just one -17 package, remove all -17 packages
[17:47] <alkisg> Otherwise the metapackage pulls the alternative, like you see
[17:47] <brian_> i think the older kernel is getting installed when i tried to remove the older kernel.  shown in https://termbin.com/h6gz
[17:48] <alkisg> E.g. apt purge linux-headers-5.11.0-17-generic linux-headers-5.11.0-17 linux-image-5.11.0-17-generic linux-modules-5.11.0-17-generic linux-modules-extra-5.11.0-17-generic
[17:48] <alkisg> All the -17- ones in the same line
[17:48] <tomreyn> that's the running kernel, though
[17:48] <brian_> oh.. let me try that.
[17:49] <brian_> uname -a is returning Linux Gemini 5.11.0-37-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 20 16:39:20 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:49] <tomreyn> oops sorry
[17:49] <tomreyn> then its fine
[17:50] <tomreyn> yes, right https://termbin.com/3sxz
[17:50] <brian_> even though the symlinks are now pointing to an older kernel, that i am now going to try to remove?
[17:50] <tomreyn> that should cuase the symlinks to get updated as well
[17:50] <tomreyn> *cause
[17:50] <tomreyn> hopefully to the latest kernel image + initrd
[17:52] <brian_> @alkisg, as you mentioned to try to remove multiple kernels on one line..  I only have one kernel installe that is a -17?
[17:52] <brian_> https://termbin.com/9gbg9
[17:54] <brian_> but i think its working. :-)
[17:55] <brian_> ok, so rather than just removing the kernel, i also have to remove the linux-headers and linux modules and modules-extra
[17:55] <brian_> i didnt know that
[17:57] <alkisg> brian_: did you try the command I sent you? sudo apt purge linux-headers-5.11.0-17-generic linux-headers-5.11.0-17 linux-image-5.11.0-17-generic linux-modules-5.11.0-17-generic linux-modules-extra-5.11.0-17-generic
[17:57] <brian_> yes that worked.
[17:58] <brian_> i am now trying to make the same thing work for the others.
[18:01] <brian_> that didnt quite work for the other kernels.  sudo apt purge linux-headers-unsigned-5.11.0-18-generic linux-headers-unsigned-5.11.0-18 linux-image-unsigned-5.11.0-18-generic linux-modules-unsigned-5.11.0-18-generic linux-modules-extra--5.11.0-18-generic
[18:02] <brian_> when purging, does every kernel need to also have the headers and modules-extra also removed?
[18:05] <alkisg> brian_: can you paste the command that I wrote? :)
[18:05] <alkisg> It's not just the kernel, it's also the modules and the extra-modules
[18:05] <alkisg> These depend on each other and need to be removed at the same time
[18:05] <alkisg> Otherwise an "alternative" is found, which is signed vs unsigned etc, and you see the ping pong you're seeing
[18:06] <brian_> the command you wrote for me, i was able to paste into the terminal and it fully worked.
[18:06] <tomreyn> apt accepts wildcards (and so does apt-get). i think you could just    sudo apt --purge autoremove    now that the symlinks are fine, though
[18:06] <brian_> i have other kernels i am also trying to get rid of
[18:06] <alkisg> I.e. from that list: https://termbin.com/ym9a
[18:06] <alkisg> you need to remove all the packages that have -17- at the same time
[18:06] <alkisg> Right
[18:07] <alkisg> apt show linux-modules-extra-5.11.0-37-generic | grep Depends
[18:07] <alkisg> Depends: linux-image-5.11.0-37-generic | linux-image-unsigned-5.11.0-37-generic
[18:07] <alkisg> This means that when you remove linux-image-5.11.0-37-generic, to be able to keep the modules installed, the unsigned one is installed too, to satisfy the dependency
[18:08] <brian_> in my case the -37 is the one i am wanting to keep i think?
[18:13] <alkisg> Why, what was the output?
[18:14] <alkisg> The headers can be kept. The modules and extra modules need to be removed. But why not remove all of them?
[18:15] <brian_> isnt -37 the one i am currently running:   https://termbin.com/3sxz
[18:16] <alkisg> dpkg -l | awk '/linux-.5.11.0-18./ { print $2 }'
[18:16] <alkisg> This will show you the packages with -18; put them in an apt purge
[18:17] <alkisg> Usually the two latest kernels are kept
[18:17] <Guest85> So I'm on 21.10 Beta w/ the 5.22.90  Plasma backport PPA and I'm encountering an issue where setting my display to 144Hz resets back to 60Hz after a restart/logout
[18:17] <Guest85> Using Plasma-Wayland
[18:18] <alkisg> And the third one gets automatically removed by apt when a new one arrives and you run autoremove
[18:18] <Guest85> Anyone has encountered this issue?
[18:18] <alkisg> But if you don't run autoremove for ages, then it ...forgets them and they don't get autoremoved anymore :D
 Except that issue, does it work? (re @IrcsomeBot: <Guest85> So I'm on 21.10 Beta w/ the 5.22.90  Plasma backport PPA and I'm encountering an issue where setting my display to 144Hz resets back to 60Hz after a restart/logout)
[18:26] <brian_> alkisg, i think that awk regex is not working for me.  i know i have some -18's in the list but that command, as you gave it is not returning any values.
[18:28] <tomreyn> i suspect alkisg meant to write:    dpkg -l | awk '/linux-.*-5\.11\.0-18\./ { print $2 }'
[18:30] <brian_> ahh.. dpkg -l | awk '/linux-.*-5\.11\.0-18\.*/ { print $2 }'
[18:30] <brian_> i was also missing a * after the 18..   you guys are awesome for offering help, thank you both
[18:32] <alkisg> I'm not sure if matrix mangles some stuff
[18:32] <alkisg> As * are considered "italic text" etc, it supports markdown...
[18:32] <alkisg> Dot matches any character, so it'll match a dot, although sure a backslack makes it more restrictive
[18:32] <brian_> i thought the . meant any character and * meant any number of characters?
[18:33] <alkisg> *backslash
[18:35] <alkisg> zero or more times of the previous character or characters if parenthesis are used
[19:09] <brian_> Thank you both for helping me with that issues.. I had 32mb left on my /boot partition and things were probably going to be bad for me had i not fixed it.
[19:11] <brian_> another side question if i may.  I used to have chrome be able to hardware decode vp 9, like maybe a month or 2 ago and it seemed to just stop working now.  I noticed this because i play Stadia on my kubuntu system using google chrome.
[19:13] <brian_> i had to move to 21.04 because the previous LTS didnt have the support at the time for the new amd 6800xt and 21.04 worked out of the box after install.
[19:16] <genii> !info libvpx5 hirsute
[19:16] <genii> Hm
[19:16] <genii> !info vpx-tools hirsute
[19:17] <genii> brian_: Might want to try that package
[19:18] <genii> !info libvpx hirsute
[19:19] <genii> Ah, it's at 6 now