[00:04] <morganu> because I already fixed it and down understand even what that state of 'having the window paraphernalia vanish is' called.
[00:55] <chen> ni
[01:20] <Kel> we are the knights who say
[01:20] <rifle> ni
[01:38] <bobdobbs> niiiiiiiiii
[02:14] <k_sze> While apt updating cloud-init in Ubuntu in WSL2, I got this message at the end: "invoke-rc.d: could not determine current runlevel"
[02:15] <k_sze> Should I be concerned?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> k_sze: We here do not generaly know a lot of WSL - if no response here - might ask >>
[02:18] <Bashing-om> !wsl | k_sze
[02:18] <k_sze> Oh, so there's a #ubuntu-on-windows channel. nice
[02:18] <k_sze> thanks
[02:19] <Bashing-om> k_sze: Not to say one here will not know :)
[02:19] <k_sze> :)
[03:27] <Ginalo> Hi. I figured out how to stitch flat images using Hugin for my long screenshot needs. Now, I need a screenshot tool that takes an area in the screen, saves it in memory, and takes a screenshot of that screen area on demand.
[03:27] <Ginalo> Does anyone know of such tool?
[04:46] <silverstone> Hi. After upgrading to hirsute, my docking stations is behaving weirdly at boot. USB keyboard not recognized and no display output (DVI). BIOS screen outputs correctly on docked DVI output, grub menu as well as post-LUKS password prompt outputs correctly on external display. But at LUKS password prompt, all I see is black screen and keyboard is not reacting at all (no numlock "ON" light). Any idea what is going on? Laptop is an old Lenovo X230 if
[04:46] <silverstone> that helps. Was working well with the previous release of Ubuntu ...
[05:50] <tsujp> friends I have somehow borked my package install? I cannot do apt upgrade, or apt install anything because amdgpu and amdgpu-dkms return errors `sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1)`
[05:50] <tsujp> what can I do to fix this?
[06:01] <alkisg> tsujp: run `sudo apt full-upgrade` or `sudo dpkg --configure -a`, and put the WHOLE output to pastebin
[06:01] <alkisg> !paste
[06:09] <tsujp> gonna try something quickly, brb need to reboot
[06:17] <tsujp> alkisg okay i managed to uninstall by using `amdgpu-uninstall` which gets things working
[06:17] <tsujp> so I did that and then clean and autoremove and I can install stuff a-okay
[06:18] <tsujp> I cannot now _install_ with `amdgpu-install`, here's the logs
[06:18] <tsujp> http://ix.io/3AnI
[06:19] <alkisg> That's a typical "cannot build in new kernels" failure, it looks like they don't support kernel 5.11 yet
[06:20] <alkisg> > Consult /var/lib/dkms/amdgpu/5.6.0.15-1098277/build/make.log for more information.
[06:20] <alkisg> You can google the errors that you'll see inside that file
[06:20] <alkisg> I'm not using amdgpu, but I think there are open source drivers for it, aren't there?
[06:21] <tsujp> weird because I installed linux-kernel-generic isn't that meant to be 5.4 and not 5.11?
[06:21] <alkisg> In any case if you can't compile the drivers you want, you may install linux-generic (instead of the -hwe you have now) and go to 5.4 kernel, it'll probably work there
[06:21] <alkisg> It's possible that you have both
[06:21] <alkisg> dpkg -l | grep linux | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:21] <alkisg> Upload that one ^
[06:21] <tsujp> https://termbin.com/bmey
[06:22] <alkisg> Yes, you have both. You may reboot, and in the grub menu, select advanced options > 5.4 kernel
[06:23] <alkisg> Then `uname -r` will say 5.4, and you'll be able to compile/use the drivers, and if you want, to remove 5.11 from there as well
[06:23] <tsujp> okay, my machine goes straight to boot though how do I get to the grub menu...?
[06:23] <alkisg> Hold down the left shift key
[06:23] <tsujp> I could just remove 5.11 now and it'd use 5.4 anyway right?
[06:23] <alkisg> I'm not sure if apt will allow you to remove the running kernel
[06:23] <tsujp> true
[06:23] <tsujp> ok ill give this a shot now
[06:23] <tsujp> brb again
[06:24] <alkisg> There's also grub-set-default if shift fails
[06:26] <tsujp> so I rebooted and tried holding and spamming left shift but I never got the grub menu
[06:26] <tsujp> it just boots straight to gdm
[06:26] <tsujp> if I go into the bios for this laptop the only options are `ubuntu` and old partition entries like fedora or windows which aren't installed
[06:31] <tsujp> ill try with Esc and use the laptop keyboard directly instead of my USB keyboard
[06:31] <tsujp> but pressing enter on usb is enough to get into the bios so idk why it wouldn't work
[06:32] <alkisg> You may use `grub-set-default` to set the next boot default option
[06:33] <alkisg> And there's also a grub option to always show the grub menu
[06:38] <Antony39> hi
[06:38] <Antony39> I believe my Ubuntu server has been hacked.
[06:39] <Antony39> weird things happen on the server,  I am running out of storage,  my apache webserver goes offline and some other webserver goes online
[06:39] <Antony39> and "nmap" reveals a lot of open ports!
[06:39] <Antony39> What course of action is suggested to be taken in such cases?
[06:40] <Antony39> I also need a full snapshot of the server for legal purposes, to prove what was going on in case somebody sues me for anything illegal that might have occured.
[06:42] <Znevna> call your system administrator
[06:43] <Antony39> Znevna, it's a root server... I am the one in charge
[06:43] <tsujp> turn off the machine and boot into your rescue system
[06:43] <tsujp> if the attack is happening _now_ or you think it is and you dont know what to do, prevent access to the machine
[06:43] <tsujp> but turning it off
[06:43] <tsujp> by*
[06:44] <Antony39> tsujp, I think it's happening now.  I can still access the server.  But there are hundreds of open ports
[06:44] <Antony39> and Apache (the webserver) is gone again, and some other server is listening on port 80
[06:44] <Antony39> also there seem to be a lot of dubious services running by what "nmap" shows
[06:44] <Antony39> I am scared to death that something highly illegal is going on there
[06:44] <Antony39> I don't know how to boot into a rescue system
[06:45] <Antony39> I ran an iptables command in an attempt to block ALL ports except a few that I need myself - but it did NOT do anything
[06:45] <Antony39> there was no error when I ran the iptables command - but all ports are still open
[06:46] <Antony39> as if iptables just fully ignored me
[06:47] <tsujp> idk my guy im at work rn so not really in a position to pay attention and help
[06:47] <tsujp> sounds like your best course of action right now is to turn off the machine
[06:47] <tsujp> and hire someone to inspect it if you think you're being attacked
[06:47] <Antony39> ok
[06:47] <tsujp> since you don't know what you're doing here
[06:47] <Antony39> yep.  true that
[06:47] <Antony39> thank you!
[06:48] <tsujp> you can then learn what they did for the future too
[06:48] <tsujp> good luck!
[06:48] <Antony39> Thank you, tsujp
[07:17] <Daulity> ogra: so I am confused :) if apt update should regenerate the list then why does it still try to get old ones :)
[07:20] <Daulity> I tried different repositories and it works
[07:21] <Daulity> my guess is that apt-get choose a server that doesn't have new enough revision on it?
[07:21] <Daulity> it pointed to ports.ubuntu.com so i assume that chooses some other mirror from a list
[07:23] <ren0v0> Hi all, I'm coming back to this after around a month of it being an issue. Whenever I connect a new USB device to my PC (namely my DAC), it freezes out my keyboard. How can i debug this?
[07:53] <ogra> Daulity, no, ports.ubuntu.com is the server holding all arm and ppc packages, there are no mirrors ... and i checked the Package.gz files there, they were up to date
[07:54] <ogra> Daulity, but glad that it worked
[08:04] <Sqaure> scp is a pretty clumsy way of downloading files. You need to ssh in first to locate the file you want, disconnnect and then use scp.
[08:04] <Sqaure> Is there a scp tool with a browser?
[08:05] <alkisg> filezilla?
[08:05] <enyc> Sqaure: depends upon the desktop environment but... you can usually  something along lines of  "Places" -> "connect to server"
[08:05] <Daulity> ogra: then i am even more confused :P
[08:06] <enyc> Sqaure: i.e. desktop file browser provides some sort of built-in gui SSH/SFTP file client  (and SMB and various other protocols..)
[08:06] <Sqaure> enyc, i find nautilus pretty bad for remote file handling overall. Atleast when ive dealt with samba shares
[08:07] <enyc> Sqaure: maybe so, I wonder baout  nemo  as provided in Cinnamon-desktop
[08:07] <enyc> Sqaure: if your connection client-server is preety solid, you might have a go with "sshfs" (mount remote sftp location as a local virtual directory)
[08:08] <ogra> Daulity, not only you 🙂 i do use these archives daily from lxd containers on armhf and arm64 and never see such issues ...
[08:08] <enyc> Sqaure: ... but that can fall over in all sorts of ways with hung processes etc if connection drops, you have to then killall sshfs and sudo umount the directory etc.  messy to recover
[08:13] <moha>  We are delivering VMs to in-house clients (developers) in our company. The Problem: they sometimes stop ssh service and then there's no way to connect, unless we give them remote access over i.e Anydesk/teamviewer on vmware web console to login by their passowrd and start the service. how to ban them on changing ssh status? 11:37 AM (while they have root access)
[09:07] <TomyWork> hi, I'm on kubuntu 18.04 and I tried following this guide to running noisetorch automatically with the session: https://github.com/lawl/NoiseTorch/wiki/Start-automatically-with-Systemd#create-systemd-unit
[09:08] <TomyWork> I filled in all the placeholders, uncommented the pulseaudio line and rebooted. Log says pulse audio socket is not available, so I checked whether there was actually a pulseaudio service. There is, but it's disabled. The pulseaudio process is part of the "session-3.scope" unit, according to 'systemctl status "$(pgrep pulseaudio)"'.
[09:09] <TomyWork> so, what's going on here? why is there a service but it's disabled and pulseaudio is started some other way? what is that other way and can I switch to the service way?
[09:09] <TomyWork> and should I?
[09:13] <ogra> TomyWork, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/WhatIsWrongWithSystemWide/
[09:16] <TomyWork> ogra, not talking about systemwide, talking about --user units
[09:17] <ogra> TomyWork, systemctl --user status pulseaudio.socket
[09:17] <ogra> it is socket activated in the user session
[09:18] <TomyWork> Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.socket; disabled; vendor preset: enabled)
[09:18] <TomyWork> that is also disabled :)
[09:18] <ogra> not on a default ubuntu desktop install 🙂
[09:18] <TomyWork> on 18.04?
[09:18] <ogra> might be something kde specific
[09:18] <TomyWork> could be
[09:20] <tomreyn> "systemctl --user status pulseaudio.socket" on (previously upgraded from earlier ubuntu releases) 18.04: https://termbin.com/yt51p
[09:22] <ogra> interesting ... for me both, the service and the socket units are active (20.04 default desktop though, but i dont think anythng changed here in years)
[09:22] <ogra> ... and enabled too indeed 🙂
[09:22] <tomreyn> "systemctl --user status pulseaudio.service | nc termbin.com 9999" on the same system (.service here, not .socket) https://termbin.com/rsh4
[09:23] <ogra> tomreyn, so no sound for you ?
[09:24] <tomreyn> sounds works fine, so does pavucontrol
[09:24] <ogra> how strange
[09:24] <TomyWork> tomreyn, yep, looks the same for me
[09:24] <TomyWork> yeah something else starts it
[09:25] <ogra> perhaps /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop ?
[09:28] <ogra> hmm, no, that only loads the X11 modules
[09:51] <TomyWork> i just downloaded a kubuntu 18.04 live image and it's the same there
[10:33] <tdiabel> Cannot install wine due to mismatch version mismatch between amd64 and i386 packages versions (likely 682 packages)
[10:35] <tomreyn> tdiabel: do you have a wine PPA configured? if so, that's probably why.
[10:35] <tdiabel> adm64 packages are like on version 2.34-0.1ubuntu9.1 but i386 are 2.34-0.1ubuntu9. I  can manually downgrade each package by appending apt packagename=version_number_like_i386
[10:35] <shugo> c
[10:35] <shugo> hi
[10:35] <tdiabel> tomreyn: I do, but without wine ppa it still does occur. Maybe some other one is causing it?
[10:36] <tdiabel> On the other hand i'd like to just downgrade all the offending packages, but don;t know how to do it quickly, instead of doing it manually for ~700 pkgs
[10:36] <shugo> i have forwaraded my port 22 for ssh access but i still cannot acccess it from internet
[10:36] <tomreyn> tdiabel: maybe. show   apt policy <package>   for the :i386 and the :amd64 packages
[10:36] <tomreyn> on a pastebin
[10:37] <tomreyn> and tell us which ubuntu version you are running
[10:37] <shugo> 20.04
[10:38] <tomreyn> shugo: then either the ssh server is not running, the forwarding did not succeed, or there is a firewall or additional NAT somewhere in between.
[10:38] <tomreyn> tdiabel: 700 pakcages? how could that be?
[10:38] <tdiabel> Aptitude shows so when i try to install wine that way
[10:38] <shugo> tomreyn: there is no firewall inside of linux i think, sudo systemctl status sshd is running , i can ssh by using local ip address
[10:39] <tomreyn> !aptitude | tdiabel
[10:39] <tomreyn> shugo: so it's something outside of the ubuntu system
[10:40] <shugo> tomreyn: can you please point me in the right direction
[10:40] <tomreyn> shugo: if you have another computer in the same LAN, try connecting to the other systems' LAN address on port 22.
[10:40] <tomreyn> shugo: and check your internet router for a firewall
[10:40] <shugo> actually i don't have another computer
[10:41] <shugo> i have another android
[10:41] <shugo> but that doesn't help i guess
[10:41] <tomreyn> there are network mappers for android
[10:42] <shugo> can i run ssh on another port and forward that port like for ex 66141 forwared
[10:43] <tomreyn> if your router supports asymmetric NAT, yes
[10:44] <shugo> how can i know that ?
[10:45] <tomreyn> check its documentation. asymmetric NAT just means the port it opens to the internet can diff3er form the one the LAN computer is listening on
[10:45] <tomreyn> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aaronjwood.portauthority.free is a good android app for port scanning
[10:47] <shugo> thanks for your help
[10:51] <TomyWork> word of warning: depending on your jurisdiction, port-scanning someone else's IP might be illegal
[10:52] <TomyWork> already gone
[11:01] <TomyWork> I installed kubuntu 18.04 in a VM, same results for systemctl --user pulseaudio.{service,socket}
[11:19] <Emrederseniz1> i  have a new laptop it's "lenovo thinkpad x1 carbon gen7" and it's have wwan hardware i have instroctions for install driver but i'm stuck at kernel update or something like it" the driver name is "L860-GL_WWAN_Module_"
[11:19] <ledeni> TomyWork, check anyway you have recognize audio device lspci | grep Audio
[11:26] <TomyWork> ledeni, audio works, read up, i have a different issue
[11:27] <TomyWork> the issue is that i have a pulseaudio socket+service, but they're disabled and not used and instead there's a pulseaudio process started by something else
[11:33] <tomreyn> Emrederseniz1: it's always good to point to the guide you're following and to explain exactly where you get stuck (in this guide)
[11:34] <tomreyn> Emrederseniz1: I do not know whether othat's the case here, but note that some hardware is supported only on Ubuntu OEM kernels, which are not used by default when you install Ubuntu using an Ubuntu.com downloadable desktop ISO.
[11:37] <tomreyn> (and some hardware is not supported on Linux in general, because the company producing the chipset has not provided linux drivers.)
[11:39] <tdiabel> tomreyn: i've fixed the i386/amd64 version mismatch by editing /etc/apt/sources.list and adding "focal-updates" and "focal-backports" to universe/multiverse etc.
[11:39] <tomreyn> you didn't have -updates?!
[11:39] <ledeni> TomyWork, recording web start-pulseaudio-x11 & start-pulseaudio-kde start pulseaudio
[11:40] <tomreyn> tdiabel: looks like you had previously modified it then (maybe on the GUI)
[11:41] <Emrederseniz1> tomreyn actually i have introdocktions they support the driver, but i'm kindly new on ubuntu that's why i can't install that, anyway to remote connection for help?
[11:42] <tomreyn> Emrederseniz1: there's a driver for this LTE (4G) module here: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds550634-fibocom-l860-gl-wireless-wan-driver-for-linux-thinkpad-x1-yoga-gen-4-x1-carbon-gen-7-x1-yoga-gen-5-x1-carbon-gen-8
[11:43] <heller> hey guys
[11:43] <heller> i've updated ubuntu fro 18 to 20 and now i'm missing internet connection
[11:43] <heller> any tips?
[11:43] <tomreyn> Emrederseniz1: we don't usually do remote help (I won't), but prefer helping you understand how to manage something yourself.
[11:44] <Emrederseniz1> tomreyn yes friend, i try to do that, but cant continue after step 4 and 5
[11:44] <tomreyn> Emrederseniz1: step 4 and 5 of what
[11:45] <Emrederseniz1> i ll write now first step "Install the necessary dependencies" i did it check. step2 "Download kernel 5.4.3 from the kernel website" check. step 3 "Uncompress the downloaded kernel tar file to its down directory." check. step 4 "Copy the provided thinkpad_acpi.c file to the x86 driver directory"
[11:46] <heller> can i use /etc/network/interfaces with ubuntu 20?
[11:46] <Emrederseniz1> the copy the provided file to x86 directory? where is my x86 directory i cant find i looked everywhere almost
[11:50] <Emrederseniz1> tomreyn?
[11:51] <tomreyn> Emrederseniz1: it won't be possible to help unless you can provide more context, specifically the guide you're following. but even then, i would not recommend building a specific, outdated, kernel version (and then forever sticking to that) just to make a badly supported piece of hardware work
[11:51] <tomreyn> I'm afraid I also need to leave it there for now, it's meal time. bbl.
[11:52] <Emrederseniz1> tomreyn:  actually, i was try to understund how can i do that, when i figure that once time i'll be ok. otherwise it's question mark for me forever :(
[11:55] <heller> anyone? :)
[12:03] <tomreyn> Emrederseniz1: this driver is really alpha quality at best, i can only recommend against wasting your time on it.
[12:04] <tomreyn> heller: i think a fallback to /etc/network/interfaces may still be possible in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (I am *guessing* this is what you are using), but you should really prefer network-manager or systemd-networkd (via netplan on servers)
[12:05] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | heller
[12:07] <tomreyn> heller: lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller'       should tell you which network hardware you have there
[12:08] <faLUKE>  hello. I'm getting crazy with my gigabyte brix. When booting linux (ubuntu) I obtain these errors (I made a screenshot): https://ibb.co/Jxq9jnh  .  Then, it shows me the desktop screen, but the I get many I/O errors, crashes etc. I replaced the RAM but it did not fix the issue.  In addition, it forces file system check at each boot
[12:11] <tomreyn> faLUKE: mce (machine check error) are most definitely hardware (possibly firmware) errors. chekc whether firmware updates are available for all parts, starting with the mainboard.
[12:16] <tomreyn> the MCE indeed points to RAM (but that's being detected by the mainboard, with help from the CPU, so those could also be faulting, providing a bad diagnosis). run a memory test (2 full passes at least). this is probably a uefi system, so you'll want the one from memtest86.com
[12:18] <tomreyn> thisis a mini pc, those could have thermal issues, make sure the cpu is not overheating. also undo any memory optimization / tuning you may have set on the bios.
[12:18] <heller> well its 20.04.3 LTS. how can i get this working with /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:20] <tomreyn> you'd need to install ifupdown - but it's really much better to use the other options i suggested
[12:26] <heller> using netplan?
[12:26] <heller> since i cant install anything no
[12:26] <heller> w
[12:28] <tomreyn> if you purged network-manager (did you?) you should still have systemd-networkd, which can be configured directly. other than that:
[12:28] <tomreyn> !apt-offline
[12:29] <tomreyn> !offline
[12:29] <heller> well i do have netplan installed
[12:29] <heller> at least. what is the easiest way to get this working now?
[12:30] <tomreyn> is this ubuntu server or desktop?
[12:30] <tomreyn> so you can probably use netplan to create a systemd-networkd configuration
[12:31] <tomreyn> !info apt-offline
[12:31] <tomreyn> yet another option would be booting a live system and chroot to the installed system, then install software as needed.
[12:32] <tomreyn> none of these options are super easy or convenient.
[12:32] <heller> well at the moment i dont even know where to begin
[12:32] <heller> since i've always been using /etc/network/interfaces
[12:33] <tomreyn> that's been deprecated for a good while
[12:33] <heller> If you could help me with something thats even possible
[12:33] <heller> yeah
[12:33] <tomreyn> start with creating a configuration using https://netplan.io
[12:34] <tomreyn> if you're using this as a desktop computer, you'll want to undo the netplan configuration later and just use network-manager.
[12:35] <tomreyn> if it's being used as a headless server, you can just keep netplan + systemd-networkd
[12:38] <heller> nah, only ssh
[12:40] <heller> i tried this https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-configure-static-ip-address-on-ubuntu-20-04/ and got an address, but no internet connection
[12:40] <heller> i've gt a static ip
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:59] <heller> tomreyn: thanks. its now working. had to reboot to make it work
[14:01] <conjo> hi all having some mouse wheel not working issues since updating to 20.04. My wheel will no longer scroll system windows or firefox? I have no idea where to start and tried installing imwheel (sudo apt install imwheel then reboot no luck)
[14:02] <conjo> google isnt yeilding any thing that stands out/work to fix the problem
[14:11] <TomyWork> conjo, boot from a 20.04 live dvd/usb and see if the problem exists there too. that's a data point that might help with diagnosis
[14:19] <TomyWork> ogra, ok I tried it on a fresh install of both ubuntu and kubuntu: the pulseaudio user socket/service is disabled on both
[14:21] <ogra> TomyWork, must be 18.04 specific ... it is running on all my 20.04 installs here
[14:22] <TomyWork> ok here's a difference
[14:22] <TomyWork> there are 2 processes on ubuntu, just one on kubuntu
[14:23] <TomyWork> the extra process is in fact a systemd unit called pulseaudio.service
[14:23] <TomyWork> but it's in another user's slice
[14:23] <ogra> TomyWork, thats gdm ...
[14:23] <TomyWork> uhm, wat
[14:23] <ogra> to have audio at the login screen (required for a11y)
[14:23] <TomyWork> ah
[14:24] <TomyWork> oh right, it's running as gdm
[14:25] <ogra> yep
[14:26] <TomyWork> can i tell my systemd service to wait for pulseaudio even if that's not running as a systemd service?
[14:28] <TomyWork> hah, Restart=on-failure + RestartSec=1
[14:29] <TomyWork> problem solved
[14:29] <ogra> heh
[14:29] <TomyWork> would have been nice not to spam an error into my logs every time I log in, though
[14:29] <ogra> just let it loop until it doesnt fail anymore ?
[14:29] <TomyWork> yup
[14:30] <ogra> does kde have any other systemd service you could hook up to instead ?
[14:30] <ogra> something that starts after you typically have audio ...
[14:31] <TomyWork> not really
[14:32] <TomyWork> anyway, I'll see if it comes up correctly tomorrow.
[14:32] <TomyWork> thanks for the help
[14:34] <BluesKaj> take look at pipewire
[14:34] <ogra> on 18.04 ?
[14:37] <TomyWork> sorry, I'm not going to switch the audio system just because I have a bunch of extra error messages in the journal cause a noise filter is starting slightly too soon
[14:37] <BluesKaj> check your package manager or apt
[14:37] <TomyWork> I have no issues with pulseaudio so far
[14:37] <ogra> yeah, especially to one that was not really ready in 18.04 ...
[14:38] <ogra> ... i'd rather suggest an upgrade to 20.04 before suggesting to maintain your own pipewire backport, just to get a functioning systemd unit to hook your app into 🙂
[14:39] <TomyWork> noisetorch does work with pipewire though, i know that much :)
[14:39] <TomyWork> but all the other shit i have, probably doesn't
[14:39] <TomyWork> unless pipewire has NAS support, which I very much doubt it does
[14:41]  * BluesKaj shrugs, it merely a suggestion ...
[14:41] <BluesKaj> it's
[14:42] <conjo> TomyWork, ty will try that in the mean time here is some driver info https://pastebin.com/16X5RACr
[14:42] <ogra> i think pipewire is actually a direct replacement for pulse ... just that it was not really mature in 2018
[14:42] <conjo> please dont reply till im back online people my client isnt set up yey
[14:42] <BluesKaj> depends on whether the the upgrades have kept pace
[14:45] <TomyWork> ubuntu lts does not update what is not broken
[14:45] <TomyWork> pulseaudio is not broken, so it is not updated, nor is there any reason to maintain a replacement for it
[14:47] <Mathisen> what is the pulseaudio replacement you talking about ?
[14:47] <ogra> well, it is also pretty stalled in development since its developers forused on pipewire ... try getting aptX audio to work with it 🙂
[14:47] <ogra> but yeah, it is rock solid and mature
[14:48] <TomyWork> there isn't even a pipewire package in 18.04
[14:48] <ogra> yeah, i thought so
[14:48] <ogra> we do have it in 20.04 IIRC
[14:48] <TomyWork> i'll get it once it becomes the default :)
[14:48] <ogra> and it might perhaps replace pulse in 22.04 ... simply brcause it also offers things like RDP on wayland
[14:49] <TomyWork> remote desktop protocol?
[14:49] <ogra> yep
[14:49] <TomyWork> what does that have to do with the audio daemon?
[14:49] <ogra> ask the pipewire devs 😛
[14:50] <BluesKaj> I have pipewire working on kubuntu 21.10 dev release
[14:50] <ogra> it is the defacto standard for screen sharing on wayland nowadays (which does not permit the old ways anymore with the new security model)
[14:50] <TomyWork> oh, i guess it's an audio/video daemon now
[14:50] <ogra> yeah
[14:50] <BluesKaj> always was
[14:51] <TomyWork> security model... sounds fun
[14:51] <TomyWork> same with wayland, i'll use it once it becomes the default
[14:54] <TomyWork> so i guess things like obs also talk to pipewire for video?
[15:51] <conjo> anyone got any ideas on how to get mousewheel to scroll on ubuntu 20.04
[15:51] <conjo> 20.04.3
[15:52] <tomreyn> you move it up- or downwards
[15:53] <KBar> They left without getting the answer. :(
[16:45] <jpmh> I'm using: ssh -tt -p 222 -R 123:localhost:456 myserver.com - sure enough it SEEMS to set up the connectio.  But when I look on the myserver.com , with netstat, I see that the port is indeed open but for 127.0.0.1 not the 0.0.0.9 that I need.  How do I fix this?
[16:58] <jpmh> solved it - needed to add GatewayPorts yes to my sshd config file
[17:03] <johs1> is there a system for showing what movies you've watched open source
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> johs1: vlc recently played
[17:05] <johs1> good1
[17:19] <fling> Which media to use for installing on bare metal on zfs without ui?
[17:20] <tomreyn> fling: some storage media which your system can boot from
[17:22] <tomreyn> maybe you're asking which ubuntu installer to use? i'm not sure that 20.04 LTS (live-)server supports ZFS, but that'd be your best choice. if it doesn't you could use debootstrap from a live system instead.
[18:27] <MrKeuner> hi, why wouldn't pomotroid spawn? foo@narwhal:~/Desktop$ pomotroid, foo@narwhal:~/Desktop$ Here is syslog: Sep 30 14:25:47 narwhal systemd[1541]: Started snap.pomotroid.pomotroid.3f7abc2f-901a-4191-88bc-ac7fa200120a.scope.
[18:27] <MrKeuner> Sep 30 14:25:47 narwhal systemd[1541]: snap.pomotroid.pomotroid.3f7abc2f-901a-4191-88bc-ac7fa200120a.scope: Succeeded.
[18:28] <MrKeuner> Appears like the pomotroid app installed via snap is running without erroras
[18:28] <MrKeuner> Is there another way for me to get the errors
[18:29] <MrKeuner> 21.04
[18:41] <fling> tomreyn: no, which install media?
[18:43] <tomreyn> fling: i don't know what you're asking, or why.
[18:43] <tomreyn> (provide more context)
[18:46] <fling> tomreyn: I need to install to a hardware box with root on zfs. I don't know which media provides this possibility :>
[18:46] <fling> I don't need any desktop stuff
[18:50] <tomreyn> fling: so try the server installer. i'm not sure it supports zfs, but it would be your easiest option if it does.
[18:51] <fling> do you have a link?
[18:52] <tomreyn> https://ubuntu.com
[18:52] <tomreyn> then look for downloads for servers
[18:52] <fling> thanks
[19:02] <Lantizia_> anyone aware of issues installing ubuntu 20.04 on nuc's ... in the sense that the first boot is just a black screen
[19:03] <Lantizia_> but mysteriously if you hit the power button... it turns off near instantly but flashes up the purple text ubuntu 20.04 screen for a moment
[19:16] <Lantizia_> and now I'm starting to think it's because I used mini.iso
[19:16]  * Lantizia_ waits for three thousand people to tell me that is unsupported
[19:17] <StoneMonarch> Hope this channel is for Ubuntu Server as well. If its not, feel free to direct me to the correct channel. On Ubuntu Server 20.04 I have some docker-compose files that run on start up through systemd. When running in detached (`-d` or `--detached`) mode docker-compose immediately takes down the containers after they start, however this does not occur when not detached. Is it okay to run these service files without `-d`. I have
[19:17] <StoneMonarch> not experienced any issues running multiple service files in this manner, but is there problems that can occur?
[19:17] <sybariten> so, i realized something rather fundamental
[19:18] <sybariten> i have no clue how installed applications are actually... updated. Like, comparably with for instance an android app. Well tbh i dont really have a clue how those are updated either. Is it done behind the scenes?
[19:19] <sarnold> StoneMonarch: there is an #ubuntu-server but this channel gets far more traffic. dunno about docker-specific things though. :/
[19:20] <sybariten> I was gonna say that i was reading about a new version of tmux that had a cool feature, but now i realize the blog post was from 2013 so i most definitely have this feature, haha
[19:22] <StoneMonarch> @sarnold Thanks. Im unsure if its a docker thing, systemd, or Ubuntu thing. Just had to start asking somewhere. Thanks again
[19:23] <tomreyn> Lantizia_: mini.iso doesn't support uefi, but you most likley want to uefi boot.
[19:24] <Lantizia_> tomreyn, well it's weird because the ISO (once on a USB pen) will boot via EFI... it'll make you EFI partition too... and like I say it must boot to some extent as my nuc has legacy boot disabled - and the purple ubuntu 20.04 screen appears when powering it off from the black screen
[19:25] <Lantizia_> so I don't buy "it doesn't support uefi" ... it clearly does, it's just broken and the ubuntu devs are too stupid to care about supporting d-i
[19:25] <Lantizia_> instead I've just had to needlessly grab a 1.2GB ISO for a "server install" ... even though it won't be a server
[19:29] <Lantizia_> oh lord this "server" installer is truely hideou
[19:36] <Lantizia_> "subiquity" - eww
[19:36] <Lantizia_> not a patch on d-i
[19:37] <ferz> Hi, I'm running a java application that store some files in a dir, I'm not able to discover where that dir is.
[19:37] <tomreyn> Lantizia_: hmm, maybe my info is outdated then. or maybe it's just that it doesn't work properly with uefi. either way, it's a deprecated installed.
[19:37] <tomreyn> *installeR
[19:38] <Lantizia_> a deprecated but superior installer
[19:38] <ferz> When I save I can choose the filename but the file requester is not able to use / char to change storing path
[19:38] <ferz> Have you hint?
[19:39] <sarnold> Lantizia_: be sure to file bugs for the features from debian-installer that are missing from subiquity
[19:39] <sarnold> ferz: you could try the opensnoop-bpfcc tool from the bpfcc-tools package to see where the files are going
[19:39] <Lantizia_> sarnold, I wouldn't want to improve such a hot mess
[19:40] <ferz> sarnold: thank you
[19:40] <Lantizia_> why the heck is this thing stuck on "A start job is running for Wait for Network to be configured (2 min)"
[19:40] <Lantizia_> oh ffs cloud-init everywhere... this IS NOT A SERVER
[19:41] <Lantizia_> Surely there is a better installer for someone just wanting to build up a desktop without having a desktop environment one pre-installed?
[19:41] <tomreyn> there's debootstrap
[19:41] <sarnold> Lantizia_: you may prefer debootstrap or the faster, newer, mmdebstrap
[19:42] <ioria> Lantizia_, you want a minimal desktop ?
[19:42] <mago> HI, why is default jack repo of ubuntu 20 so oboslete? Its like 0.5
[19:42] <Lantizia_> I want the Ubuntu equivalent of Debian's netinst ISO :P
[19:42] <Lantizia_> That's really what I want... but it's apparently a completely abhorrent concept
[19:43] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | mago
[19:43] <ioria> Lantizia_, why don't you check the 'minimal' install option  ?
[19:43] <Lantizia_> "check" it?  check it where?
[19:43] <tomreyn> mago: what do you mean by "default jack repo"?
[19:43] <Lantizia_> Oh you mean on an ISO that installs a desktop env... I don't want that at all.
[19:44] <ioria> Lantizia_, ok
[19:45] <mozambique> helllo
[20:00] <privato89> Hi guys
[20:01] <privato89> I've a little issue with a Gnome Extension
[20:01] <privato89> this extensions: Compiz alike magic lamp effect by hermes83
[20:03] <oerheks> extentions are fun, what ubuntu version xorg/wayland session?
[20:03] <privato89> I have the plank bar on bottom of the screen, but when I minimize an application it goes upwards adn not down
[20:04] <adrian-agot> hello am looking for a python senior coder please PM if u guys are interesting to work in a AI company,  I'm also looking for a kubernetes expert. I have several positions open related with linux, please PM if there is anyone interesting
[20:04] <oerheks> adrian-agot, not here please, this is Ubuntuonly
[20:05] <ogra> privato89, you should probably file it here https://github.com/hermes83/compiz-alike-magic-lamp-effect/issues
[20:05] <privato89> @oerheks, I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 Focal
[20:06] <oerheks> 'disable the Favorites bar on Dash to Panel.' ... seen that tip before
[20:06] <ogra> privato89, heh, looking there it seems someone already filed it
[20:06] <privato89> @ogra, woow, thanks ogra, I'm looking right now
[20:07] <privato89> I tell if it goes :)
[20:07] <mozambique> what about linux from kernel.org
[20:08] <tomreyn> mozambique: yes, what about it?
[20:11] <oerheks> the kernel team provides !mainline for testing
[20:19] <privato89> @oerheks, @ogra : I don't have the Extension Dash to Panel, I installed that extansion but the panel goes down
[20:20] <ogra> privato89, you said you have plank ...
[20:20] <ogra> see the end of that thread
[20:20] <privato89> Sure,but plank has not that preference
[20:22] <ogra> privato89, well, tell the develope on the issue 😉
[20:22] <privato89> @ogra if you see on the thread you sent me
[20:23] <ogra> there isnt much we can do here from a distro perspective here for a misbehaving third party extension
[20:23] <privato89> The picture is about the extension Dash to Panel
[20:23] <ogra> read the last line under the pic ...
[20:29] <ogra> privato89, 👍
[20:55] <sybariten> hey hey
[20:56] <sybariten> when running systemctl reload apache2 it's asking for my user PW. But is it also sudoing then? Or should this line be sudoed ? Does it make a difference ?
[20:57] <sybariten> uhhh wait a minute , i forgot i am actually on debian on the machine in question. Maybe this is a debian specific issue which is not the same on ubuntu
[20:58] <sarnold> sybariten: this'll be similar on both
[20:58] <sarnold> sybariten: systemctl will do polkit authentication requests if it needs to
[20:59] <sarnold> sybariten: most people just use sudo in front of it to skip the polkit authentication
[20:59] <sybariten> sarnold: aha so basically it doesn't make much of a difference. But i guess a web server is most often run as root?
[21:00] <sarnold> sybariten: well, it mostly just needs root privilieges to bind to ports 80 and 443, but that's one specific capability that it could have instead of *all* the capabilities, and most web server programs know how to drop privileges after they've bound their sockets..
[21:00] <sybariten> aha! Thanks sarnold
[21:00] <sarnold> sybariten: but you can surely run a web server as your own user (probably a bad idea) or some other account that doesn't start with root privileges, if it binds to ports above 1024..
[21:01] <sybariten> ok
[21:03] <WaV> I don't run a webserver but I was under the impression you wanted to run it as a non-priveleged user on a non-priveleged port (so no need to run root) and just forward the port to port 80 (or 443).
[21:15] <mozambique> !search movie
[21:15] <mozambique> ubuntu
[21:15] <matsaman> !pronouce
[21:28] <mozambique> ok
[21:28] <leftyfb> mozambique: what can we help you with?
[21:28] <mozambique> I need to learn perl
[21:28] <mozambique> deleted my notes
[21:28] <leftyfb> mozambique: try #perl
[21:28] <mozambique> no prove of work
[21:29] <mozambique> ok
[21:38] <regalrex> hello, I was wondering if anyone knows how I can actually properly install AppImages on my computer such that they are accessible by PATH and whatever gnome uses to find programs
[23:50] <ianliu> The Logitech C920e Webcam has a microphone that is enabled/disabled through LOGI TUNE software, available on Windows only. Has anyone been able to enable the mic on Linux?
[23:52] <ash_worksi> is there a package that is basically a timer that just starts/stops based on typing (and a delay after typing)
[23:54] <yukiup> well there is for the web browser
[23:55] <tomreyn> ianliu: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=211505
[23:58] <yukiup> https://superuser.com/questions/248517/show-keys-pressed-in-linux, ash_worksi also you could use a usb keyboard monitor device