[01:37] <sophie> did anyone have problems with system tray icons dissapearing in 21.04
[01:37] <sophie> i had to go back to 20.04 as the sys tray was unreliable
[01:37] <sophie> also i had two network icons in 21.04
[02:51] <Unit193> sophie: The latter is a known issue, it's because it gets confused and uses both tray icons and statusnotifier.  Restarting nm-applet will fix that.
[02:59] <sophie> Unit193: i wonder if it will be resolved for 22.04
[02:59] <sophie> it was really confusing
[03:00] <sophie> also looking forward to the split view in thunar
[03:02] <Unit193> sophie: I see bugs reported going back to 2012, I don't think they'll be fixing it anytime soon! :P
[03:02] <Unit193> 4.17 has split view?  I haven't packaged that one yet, sorry.  I'll hopefully get to it "soon".
[03:04] <sophie> https://9to5linux.com/xfces-thunar-file-manager-gets-split-view-file-creation-times-and-more
[03:10] <Unit193> Yep, 4.17.
[03:11] <Unit193> That requires libxfce4util 4.17, libxfce4ui 4.17, and exo 4.17....  I can't package that up real quick for you.
[03:11] <Unit193> https://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/tree/configure.ac.in#n147
[03:12] <sophie> oh
[03:12] <sophie> are you one of the packages for xubuntu
[03:13] <sophie> i wasnt asking you to do do anything but nice to meet someone that is involved with the OS
[03:13] <Unit193> Yeah I do the packaging of Xfce for Debian/Xubuntu.  I know, just looking if I could whip something up real quick. :P
[03:14] <sophie> im excited for the split view
[03:14] <sophie> its something im looking forward to in the next LTS
[03:14] <sophie> which sounds pretty nerdy lol
[03:21] <Unit193> Meh, fine I'm looking into popping those into a PPA..
[03:44] <sophie> yay
[03:44] <sophie> you dont have to
[03:44] <sophie> but wow appreciated
[03:56] <Unit193> Meh, LP is slow to publish, but it's getting there.
[03:57] <sophie> <3
[04:04] <sophie> i get pretty amazed you can get everything compiled and sorted so fast
[04:04] <sophie> xfce is no small thing
[04:07] <Unit193> At least it's C, where it compiles quickly.
[04:07] <Unit193> I'm only nabbing libxfce4util, libxfce4ui, exo, and thunar for now.
[04:28] <Unit193> sophie: Right, so now you're just waiting for exo to publish, then thunar will re-trigger and you can try it out.  Remember they're development builds, and it'd be appreciated if you could file bugs for any bugs you hit. https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+packages
[04:50] <sophie> Unit193: sorry for being dumb. how do i add the ppa to my repos
[04:50] <Unit193> `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xubuntu-dev/experimental`
[04:50] <sophie> ty!
[04:50] <Unit193> If you'd later like to revert that...
[04:50] <Unit193> !ppa-purge
[04:52] <sophie> upgrading
[04:53] <Unit193> Note that thunar hasn't published yet, on the first link I gave thunar needs a green checkmark rather than the gear.
[04:53] <sophie> got ya
[04:53] <sophie> i didnt see it in the list
[04:54] <sophie> time to reboot. if i dissapear you broke me <3
[04:57] <sophie> all working <3
[04:57] <sophie> thunar is kinda dead
[04:57] <sophie> failed to launch file manager
[04:58] <sophie> ahh i think i just have to redo the keyboard shortcut
[04:59] <Unit193> There you go, thunar finally published just now.
[04:59] <sophie> thats got it
[04:59] <sophie> oooo
[05:00] <Unit193> In a terminal, thunar -q  then open a folder after that.  Thunar runs as a daemon, -q is 'quit'.
[05:00] <sophie> my word you're quick
[05:00] <sophie> okay upgraded. another reboot
[05:01] <Unit193> Uh, I should really warn you.  As more 4.17 releases land, I'll be adding them to that PPA, so you may want to disable it or whatnot before you end up running devel releases of more modules.
[05:02] <sophie> got ya
[05:02] <sophie> omg i have split view now
[05:02]  * sophie hugs Unit193 
[05:02] <Unit193> How's the split panel for you?
[05:03] <Unit193> s/panel/pane/
[05:03] <sophie> so the icons work for the left panel
[05:03] <sophie> back and forward etc
[05:03] <sophie> but the right panel works just fine
[05:04] <sophie> you just cant really control it with any of the back forward up stuff
[05:05] <Unit193> Meh.
[05:07] <sophie> still. its pretty awesome. if there was a way to go up a level on the right side
[05:07] <sophie> thank you for your efforts. i really appreciate it and i dont deserve it
[05:08] <sophie> ahhh im being dumb
[05:08] <sophie> the last pane you used the icons affect
[05:08] <sophie> so if you were in the right side, up/back etc affect that
[05:09] <sophie> this is so cool
[05:10] <sophie> all the work you all do for nothing
[05:11] <Unit193> Right, so focus follows, that makes sense and what I'd figure.  Maybe tab to swtch between the two or something, don't know.
[05:11] <Unit193> Sure thing, glad it worked out fo ryou.
[05:12] <sophie> dragging files from one pane to another works
[05:13] <sophie> glad you made it happen. was fun x
[08:37] <xu-help3w> HI last night logged in xu-help53w I sent a query about starting Web (Epiphany) in Xubuntu. Being new to this help line i am having a problem picking up the thread to see the response. Clive
[08:40] <gnrp> xu-help3w: You did not reply yesterday
[08:40] <gnrp> gnrp | xu-help53w: What happens when you type in the terminal 'exo-open --launch WebBrowser' ?
[08:40] <gnrp> gnrp | anyway, you can just go to Settings -> Keyboard and then replace the Super+W shortcut
[08:44] <xu-help3w> I get a "Failed to execute default WEb Browser" 
[08:52] <gnrp> xu-help3w: I don't recover your problem exactly
[08:52] <gnrp> xu-help3w: When you go on Settings -> Default Applications, what is shown there?
[08:58] <xu-help3w> I Preferred Applications I just have Web. I have also tried Epiphany there with same result. This problem has only arisen after installing Web from flatpak. I can launch Web just by clicking on the icon in the list os Applications.
[13:55] <xu-irc87w> Hello
[13:59] <xu-irc87w> Have problems with suspend on a netbook.
[14:40] <lain9> I wanted to say that xubuntu has always been my favorite distro and desktop of choice for as long as I can remember. 
[14:40] <lain9> Thanks for making it friends