| No1x3r0 | How can I get keyboard working in Xubuntu? | 00:19 |
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| tomreyn | No1x3r0: do a bios update first of all | 00:41 |
| No1x3r0 | tomreyn already did | 00:41 |
| tomreyn | sorry to hear this :-/ | 00:41 |
| tomreyn | which hardware is this? | 00:42 |
| No1x3r0 | ASUS ZenBook 14 | 00:42 |
| tomreyn | does 20.04 LTS work? | 00:42 |
| No1x3r0 | hadn't tried, can't imagine older working better than newer | 00:42 |
| No1x3r0 | but I can give it a shot if you think it'll help | 00:42 |
| tomreyn | latest LTS is always worth a try | 00:43 |
| No1x3r0 | oh wait, I remember I did try it | 00:43 |
| No1x3r0 | cause I accidentally clicked it first since it was at the toop | 00:43 |
| No1x3r0 | so same results | 00:44 |
| tomreyn | no keyboard there either? | 00:44 |
| No1x3r0 | I don't remember testing the keyboard on it, all the rest appeared working but had boot errors so moved on, I'm going to redownload and try again | 00:45 |
| tomreyn | does the keyboard work on the bios configuration interface, though? | 00:45 |
| tomreyn | if you're running ubuntu (not sure about xubuntu) you can also run the "onboard" virtual keyboard from the menu ("dash") | 00:49 |
| No1x3r0 | tomreyn yeah in firmware menus | 00:49 |
| tomreyn | there's a chance that this problem may go away after installation. | 00:49 |
| No1x3r0 | not about to take the risk of chancing it | 00:50 |
| No1x3r0 | flashing LTS right now to test | 00:50 |
| tomreyn | the errors you got to see on your imgur screenshot are both related to the nvidia graphics card | 00:51 |
| tomreyn | oh waitthats wrong, i didn't read properly | 00:52 |
| tomreyn | so the first is about the wireless lan chipset, an acpi issue | 00:52 |
| tomreyn | then i8042 is about the keyboard most likely | 00:53 |
| No1x3r0 | tomreyn, yeah don't experience those in other distros, so it may be a kernel issue | 00:53 |
| tomreyn | nouveau is the open source nvidia driver, which is not too great | 00:53 |
| No1x3r0 | yeah kinda figured | 00:53 |
| No1x3r0 | this etch is taking a while, guess I've worn out this thumb drive with so many tests | 00:57 |
| tomreyn | better double check that the data was actually properly written to it then | 00:58 |
| No1x3r0 | tomreyn, getting i8042 error so far | 00:59 |
| No1x3r0 | still booting to test | 00:59 |
| No1x3r0 | tomreyn it does, it does a verification check each time | 00:59 |
| No1x3r0 | half way through progress on booting | 01:00 |
| tomreyn | that's not exactly as good as a byte compare, but maybe good enough | 01:00 |
| No1x3r0 | it is a byte compare | 01:00 |
| tomreyn | yes, but not for all the bytes ;) | 01:00 |
| tomreyn | you could try booting with acpi=off !kernelparm if the wlan + keyboard problems persist. | 01:01 |
| No1x3r0 | or just us a distro that works out of the box | 01:01 |
| No1x3r0 | yeah same difference on 20.04 LTS | 01:01 |
| No1x3r0 | no keyboard | 01:02 |
| tomreyn | !kernelparm | 01:02 |
| ubottu | To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters | 01:02 |
| No1x3r0 | tomreyn, yeah, thanks, I appreciate that, but I'd rather just move on to something that works | 01:03 |
| No1x3r0 | I mean out of 3 releases it not working, don't wanna follow that rabbit | 01:03 |
| tomreyn | i doubt the root cause is the linux distro. not only but also because you mentioned there are similar problems with fedora. buti wish you luck either way. | 01:04 |
| No1x3r0 | don't know it's kernel related though cause 21.10 is close to Fedora Beta 25 | 01:04 |
| tomreyn | 21.10 is unreleased | 01:05 |
| No1x3r0 | only the XFCE spin of fedora | 01:05 |
| No1x3r0 | the keyboard works fine in the worksation (GNOME) version | 01:05 |
| tomreyn | so chances are that default ubuntu would work, too | 01:06 |
| No1x3r0 | yeah, got 21.10 from https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ but also the kernel from 21.04 is close | 01:06 |
| No1x3r0 | probably | 01:06 |
| tomreyn | !21.10 | 01:06 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 21.10 (Impish Indri) will be the 35th release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release October 2021 (http://ubottu.com/y/ii). Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions. | 01:06 |
| No1x3r0 | but I want XFCE | 01:06 |
| No1x3r0 | well this is October 2021 :D | 01:07 |
| tomreyn | it's still unrelased, and not supported, though | 01:07 |
| * No1x3r0 shrug | 01:08 | |
| No1x3r0 | someone asked and suggested it here | 01:08 |
| No1x3r0 | I wouldn't have even bothered with it otherwise | 01:08 |
| No1x3r0 | but either way, none of the 3 editions worked | 01:08 |
| No1x3r0 | past, present, or future :P | 01:09 |
| tomreyn | bad / buggy firmware :-/ | 01:10 |
| No1x3r0 | don't think so, again worked with other distros and Windows 10 fine and it's Version 3 update | 01:12 |
| No1x3r0 | no issues with Manjaro, Archcraft, Zorin, Windows 10 | 01:13 |
| No1x3r0 | also if it were a firmware issue wouldn't Fedora 25 beta workstation (GNOME) have errors and issues too? which it doesn't | 01:14 |
| tomreyn | i'm sure it does, maybe they were not as obvious | 01:15 |
| No1x3r0 | keyboard works | 01:15 |
| No1x3r0 | and things work in all of those mentioned | 01:16 |
| No1x3r0 | but I will say POP and Mint are both very problematic; with POP not booting at all and Mint having no input control at all | 01:17 |
| No1x3r0 | some light on the situation: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/ASUS_Zenbook_Q408UG | 01:37 |
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| xu-irc36w | Hello to all! Please help me. Where i can find xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.iso or xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent? | 06:20 |
| No1x3r0 | xu-irc36w http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ | 06:49 |
| No1x3r0 | xu-irc36w 32 bit is i386 | 06:50 |
| No1x3r0 | As for my issue earlier, it may be similar to https://x-lore.kernel.org/linux-input/YRZ5a30XOKVjUWDG@fedora/ | 06:52 |
| xu-irc36w | No1x3r0 | 07:03 |
| xu-irc36w | Thank you, but i need xubuntu-16.04.1 - it have old kernel. xubuntu-16.04.6 have new version kernel and not support my old (2004) pentium computer. | 07:03 |
| No1x3r0 | xu-irc36w found a torrent... http://www.pcds.fi/downloads/operatingsystem/ubuntubased/UBUNTU/archive/xubuntu/1604LTS/xubuntu.1604.html | 07:07 |
| xu-irc36w | Thank you, i hope this torrent contain original image of Xubuntu. | 07:10 |
| No1x3r0 | xu-irc36w if not try: https://ia800808.us.archive.org/21/items/linuxtracker.org_p1/xubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.iso | 07:11 |
| No1x3r0 | xu-irc36w found from: https://ia800808.us.archive.org/21/items/linuxtracker.org_p1/ | 07:13 |
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| xu-irc36w | No1x3r0, thank you! | 07:17 |
| No1x3r0 | xu-irc36w sure no problem, was just a quick google search | 07:18 |
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| linuxfreezes | hello. i am having random hangs/freezes when using ubuntu on a 10 year old laptop with atom processor. this issue didnt occur on windows 7. any way to prevent the hangs/freezes? | 14:51 |
| linuxfreezes | i am using the 18.04 xubuntu LTS by the way | 14:51 |
| KBar | does it become totally unresponsive? | 14:59 |
| linuxfreezes | yes | 15:00 |
| linuxfreezes | only sshing from an android phone works to the laptop | 15:00 |
| linuxfreezes | and it can be rebooted with sudo reboot | 15:00 |
| KBar | does it happen right after booting up into de? | 15:00 |
| linuxfreezes | is there a way to restart xfwm4 on the laptop from a ssh client/android? | 15:00 |
| linuxfreezes | the freezes are intermittent | 15:00 |
| linuxfreezes | sometimes when opening the browser | 15:00 |
| linuxfreezes | sometimes on just starting | 15:01 |
| linuxfreezes | after a boot | 15:01 |
| linuxfreezes | i didnt figure out the actual cause | 15:01 |
| KBar | xfwm4 --replace is the command to restart the existing window manager | 15:01 |
| linuxfreezes | its an acer aspire one aod250 with atom processor | 15:01 |
| linuxfreezes | it doesnt start from a remote ssh session | 15:01 |
| linuxfreezes | says that display is not available or something | 15:01 |
| KBar | does it go away? | 15:02 |
| KBar | or once freezed, it stays like that for hours? | 15:02 |
| linuxfreezes | it stays permanently | 15:02 |
| linuxfreezes | and eventually ssh server stops working | 15:03 |
| linuxfreezes | and it has to be hard booted | 15:03 |
| linuxfreezes | so i reboot it when this issue occurs | 15:03 |
| KBar | is it a fresh install? | 15:03 |
| linuxfreezes | yes | 15:04 |
| linuxfreezes | a month ago | 15:04 |
| linuxfreezes | xubuntu 18.04 LTS | 15:04 |
| linuxfreezes | the freeze is intermittent, i havent figured out what is the cause | 15:05 |
| KBar | you might want to look at the processes | 15:05 |
| linuxfreezes | KBar is there a way to restart the xfwm4 from a terminal ssh session? | 15:05 |
| linuxfreezes | xfwm4 --replace doesnt work | 15:05 |
| KBar | im not familiar with ssh | 15:05 |
| KBar | sorry | 15:05 |
| linuxfreezes | gives a message that Display is not available | 15:05 |
| linuxfreezes | and as the GUI freezes i cannot open a terminal and type anything | 15:06 |
| linuxfreezes | so basically it stop | 15:06 |
| linuxfreezes | stops | 15:06 |
| KBar | but you can have some luck with magic sysrq key | 15:06 |
| linuxfreezes | sysrq? | 15:06 |
| linuxfreezes | any way to open the terminal from a key! | 15:06 |
| KBar | you dont need the terminal | 15:06 |
| KBar | wait a few minutes | 15:06 |
| linuxfreezes | the xfce terminal? | 15:07 |
| KBar | are you familiar with the concept of virtual consoles? | 15:09 |
| linuxfreezes | no. i do connect to it from ssh client though | 15:11 |
| linuxfreezes | i have tried sudo killall xfwm4 and sudo xfwm4 --replace | 15:12 |
| linuxfreezes | the later shows an error display not available or something like this | 15:12 |
| KBar | does it have the prtsc key? | 15:12 |
| linuxfreezes | hm it does | 15:12 |
| KBar | is it running rn? | 15:13 |
| linuxfreezes | pressed it, nothing is happening | 15:13 |
| krytarik | Btw, Xubuntu 18.04 is end-of-life since April this year and therefor not supported anymore (3 years vs 5 years for Ubuntu main). | 15:13 |
| KBar | dont press it just yet | 15:13 |
| KBar | is your laptop running? | 15:14 |
| linuxfreezes | hm. but a newer build will be more resource intensive when the laptop doesnt even run properly on an older build | 15:14 |
| linuxfreezes | now it is running okay | 15:14 |
| linuxfreezes | but freezes are intermittent | 15:14 |
| KBar | xubuntu is not resource intensive | 15:14 |
| KBar | anyway | 15:14 |
| linuxfreezes | and when it freezes it stops working | 15:14 |
| KBar | open the terminal | 15:14 |
| linuxfreezes | GUI becomes unusable | 15:14 |
| KBar | right now | 15:14 |
| linuxfreezes | hm its opening now | 15:14 |
| KBar | try sudo showkey | 15:15 |
| linuxfreezes | top shows 8.7 usage | 15:15 |
| KBar | enter your password | 15:15 |
| linuxfreezes | cpu | 15:15 |
| linuxfreezes | kb mode was ?UNKNOWN? | 15:15 |
| KBar | do as i say please | 15:16 |
| KBar | once again | 15:16 |
| KBar | run sudo showkey | 15:16 |
| KBar | when when "press any key" appears | 15:16 |
| KBar | press the prtsc button | 15:17 |
| KBar | it will show you the code of the button you just pressed | 15:17 |
| KBar | press only prtsc | 15:17 |
| KBar | no other button | 15:17 |
| linuxfreezes | ok | 15:17 |
| KBar | after 10 seconds | 15:17 |
| KBar | the program stops itself | 15:17 |
| KBar | but we need to know the code of prtsc for your laptop | 15:18 |
| KBar | keyboard | 15:18 |
| linuxfreezes | its saying 99 press | 15:18 |
| linuxfreezes | 99 release | 15:18 |
| KBar | awesome | 15:18 |
| linuxfreezes | something like this | 15:18 |
| KBar | means it can function as the sysrq key as well | 15:19 |
| linuxfreezes | ok | 15:19 |
| KBar | you can use the following technique to try to unfreeze the desktop | 15:19 |
| linuxfreezes | so when it freezes will pressing prntscreen bring the terminal? | 15:19 |
| KBar | no | 15:19 |
| KBar | dont get aheed of youself :) | 15:19 |
| KBar | ahead | 15:19 |
| linuxfreezes | it apparently brings the xfcer4-screenshooter :P | 15:20 |
| KBar | as it should | 15:20 |
| linuxfreezes | hm | 15:20 |
| KBar | i will teach you a useful magic trick. would you let me please? | 15:20 |
| linuxfreezes | sure, thanks a lot | 15:20 |
| KBar | great | 15:20 |
| KBar | 1 minute | 15:20 |
| linuxfreezes | i want the terminal to open when it freezes | 15:20 |
| linuxfreezes | so that it can be used | 15:21 |
| KBar | did the showkey program stop? | 15:21 |
| linuxfreezes | stopped now | 15:21 |
| KBar | did the shell return to the prompt? | 15:21 |
| linuxfreezes | yes it has | 15:21 |
| KBar | less /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq | 15:21 |
| linuxfreezes | can you teach me to program it to bring the terminal | 15:21 |
| KBar | whats the number | 15:21 |
| KBar | you see | 15:22 |
| linuxfreezes | 176 | 15:22 |
| KBar | is it a single-user system? | 15:22 |
| linuxfreezes | yes | 15:22 |
| KBar | nobody else can access it right? | 15:23 |
| linuxfreezes | yes, only the user ubuntu | 15:23 |
| KBar | we need to turn this 176 to 1, but it's a bit unsafe | 15:23 |
| KBar | no, i mean, is there someone else who can access the computer? | 15:23 |
| KBar | physically | 15:23 |
| linuxfreezes | no | 15:24 |
| KBar | great | 15:24 |
| KBar | this is what we're trying to do: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysrq.html | 15:24 |
| linuxfreezes | there is nothing that useful in the laptop, i am trying to make it stop freeze :P | 15:24 |
| KBar | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key | 15:25 |
| KBar | well, i dont know about stopping the freezes | 15:25 |
| KBar | but ill teach you oom-kill or safely reboot from a dead, unresponsive system | 15:25 |
| KBar | oom = out of memory | 15:25 |
| KBar | thats why they call it magic | 15:25 |
| linuxfreezes | hm i got it | 15:26 |
| linuxfreezes | so if 99 is the printscreen key | 15:27 |
| KBar | now | 15:27 |
| linuxfreezes | if i put 99 in this file, making alt+printscreen will bring the terminal? | 15:27 |
| linuxfreezes | :P | 15:27 |
| linuxfreezes | something like this, i guess? | 15:27 |
| KBar | no | 15:27 |
| KBar | ! | 15:27 |
| linuxfreezes | hehe | 15:27 |
| KBar | please. just follow my steps | 15:27 |
| linuxfreezes | sure | 15:27 |
| linuxfreezes | please proceed | 15:27 |
| KBar | what's the content of /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf | 15:28 |
| KBar | ? | 15:28 |
| KBar | specifically last line | 15:28 |
| KBar | the value of kernel.sysrq = 1? | 15:28 |
| KBar | oops | 15:28 |
| KBar | is it 176 as well? | 15:28 |
| linuxfreezes | its 176 | 15:28 |
| linuxfreezes | hm | 15:28 |
| KBar | i assume you don't know how to edit system config files? | 15:29 |
| linuxfreezes | i can edit them with mousepad /vi | 15:29 |
| KBar | you'll need superuser privileges to edit this 10-magic-sysrq.conf file | 15:30 |
| linuxfreezes | i have sudo | 15:30 |
| linuxfreezes | kernel.sysreq=176 | 15:30 |
| linuxfreezes | i have opened it with mousepad | 15:31 |
| KBar | it's very unsafe to do it this way, but for this occasion, i think its fine | 15:31 |
| KBar | just dont make it into a habit | 15:31 |
| KBar | turn the 176 into 1 | 15:31 |
| KBar | it has to be | 15:31 |
| KBar | kernel.sysrq = 1 | 15:31 |
| linuxfreezes | and what else? | 15:31 |
| KBar | nothing else | 15:31 |
| linuxfreezes | 256? | 15:32 |
| KBar | just this specific line and value | 15:32 |
| KBar | no | 15:32 |
| KBar | it has to be 1 | 15:32 |
| linuxfreezes | :ok | 15:32 |
| linuxfreezes | it gives a list of possible numbers | 15:32 |
| linuxfreezes | 128 is allow reboot | 15:32 |
| linuxfreezes | hm | 15:32 |
| linuxfreezes | all functions enabled with 1 | 15:32 |
| linuxfreezes | how do i access the terminal with alt+printscreen | 15:33 |
| linuxfreezes | please teach me | 15:33 |
| KBar | did you edit the file? | 15:33 |
| linuxfreezes | yes saved | 15:33 |
| KBar | did you change the value from 176 to 1? | 15:33 |
| linuxfreezes | yes saved it | 15:33 |
| linuxfreezes | should i reboot now? | 15:34 |
| KBar | reboot it and then see the content of /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq | 15:34 |
| KBar | yes | 15:34 |
| linuxfreezes | and what will be command to bring the terminal | 15:34 |
| KBar | /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq should show 1 now | 15:34 |
| linuxfreezes | may i know? | 15:34 |
| KBar | reboot, read that file again and come back | 15:35 |
| KBar | well, i guess they will have to learn the magic trick from some other wizard | 16:22 |
| ovec | Test | 20:17 |
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