[00:10] <TortillaSandwich> are ubuntu installs encrypted by default now, btw?
[00:10] <wirehead> hello, does anyone know how to get Ubuntu's Image Viewer to view .png files
[00:10] <TortillaSandwich> io didn't see an option for that
[00:10] <NoBugButFeature> nisa, if you are going to install it, what do you mean not install it. If it already is installed it won't hurt anything.
[00:10] <nisa> TortillaSandwich: you can choose during partitioning
[00:10] <NoBugButFeature> TortillaSandwich, Yes they do, there is a manual partitioning option. What I do is I make a small partition and leave that for /home. It doesn't make a difference if your just using Ubuntu for it's OS, unless you are going to install a lot of apps.
[00:21] <TortillaSandwich> cool cool
[00:21] <TortillaSandwich> alright all looks good
[00:28] <TortillaSandwich> desktops come a long way since I last had it installed in 2012 lol
[00:30] <nr0q_radio> lol I never thought I'd own something with as much power as my Ryzen 5
[01:09] <Delicates> 20.04 installed on top of VMware. Has IPv6 addressing despite telling it to disable IPv6 during installation. How do you actually disable it?
[01:11] <webchat45> Hello, I hope this is the right channel for asking a networking  related question and someone can help me. I have a networking problem on Ubunutu 21.04 with the network manager icon always showing the wired connection symbol although wifi is connecting successfully to the router.
[01:12] <NoBugButFeature> webchat45, if you are having problems with connecting to the Internet do you have your router password set?
[01:13] <webchat45> NoBugButFeature yes!
[01:13] <NoBugButFeature> webchat45, please provide the password.
[01:13] <nr0q_radio> ughh what?
[01:13] <oerheks> ignore NoBugButFeature
[01:13] <NoBugButFeature> oerheks, I don't think he actually had a problem.
[01:14] <webchat45> ok :)
[01:14] <nr0q_radio> he's just asking why the icon indicates a wired connection vs a symbol for wireless
[01:14] <oerheks> NoBugButFeature please troll on an other network, you are warned.
[01:14] <NoBugButFeature> webchat45, the reason the network icon is indicating a wired connection is because the wired connection is being used in order to connect to the internet. Thats why the icon is showing a wired connection.
[01:15] <nr0q_radio> NoBugButFeature no he said he is connected to a wireless network you didn't read his OP very well
[01:15] <NoBugButFeature> nr0q_radio, webchat45 is trying to connect to an Ethernet port but his laptop has a wireless card.
[01:15] <oerheks> webchat45, here the wifi symbol appears, did you switch or used wifi only?
[01:15] <nr0q_radio> NoBugButFeature your not helping
[01:15] <NoBugButFeature> So what nr0q_radio what are you talking about?
[01:15] <webchat45> nr0q_radio yes, but internet is also not working. I can connect to the router via phone though
[01:16] <nr0q_radio> ok that's not what your post above said
[01:16] <webchat45> yes, sorry. maybe I was unclear.
[01:16] <NoBugButFeature> lol
[01:16] <nr0q_radio> are you using WPA2 or WPA3?
[01:16] <webchat45> WPA2
[01:16] <NoBugButFeature> Can you be more clear?
[01:17] <nr0q_radio> have you been able to connect previously to this wifi or is this the first time with this computer
[01:18] <webchat45> I was able to connect previously, yes.
[01:18] <webchat45> It think it could have been was messed up from installation of the protonmailvpn client
[01:18] <oerheks> rebooting a router sometimes helps strange connections issues
[01:19] <nr0q_radio> I'd start with rebooting the router like oerheks said
[01:19] <oerheks> oh, late info, protonmailvpn client
[01:19] <nr0q_radio> hmm, that'd certainly make things appear broke if it's trying to route every over the VPN when it doesn't have to
[01:20] <webchat45> I can connect to the router, according the network manager. but it shows the wired icon.
[01:20] <NoBugButFeature> webchat45, what do you mean by "network manager" ?
[01:20] <nr0q_radio> really?
[01:21] <webchat45> I uninstalled the vpn client with apt purge
[01:21] <nr0q_radio> does that help?
[01:21] <webchat45> no, same
[01:21] <NoBugButFeature> have you set static IP address in /etc/networking/interfaces ?
[01:21] <nr0q_radio> well probably not if he's using the gui network manager
[01:21] <nr0q_radio> but that vpn package might have have mucked up stuff
[01:22] <NoBugButFeature> oh lol
[01:22] <oerheks> i read no uninstall guide .. https://www.tecmint.com/install-protonvpn-in-linux/
[01:22] <NoBugButFeature> no uninstall guide but " sudo apt purge 'protonvpn*' "  worked for me
[01:22] <webchat45> yes, I think you are probably correct nr0q_radio
[01:22] <NoBugButFeature> but I'd remove protonvpn first since it probably did some damage
[01:22] <nr0q_radio> um he did
[01:25] <webchat45> Is it possible to reset the networking config to a state like when installing a new system ?
[01:25] <NoBugButFeature> what I did is removed vpn and then reinstalled
[01:26] <oerheks> kill switch https://protonvpn.com/support/linux-vpn-tool/#uninstall
[01:26] <oerheks> then remove cache and reboot?
[01:26] <webchat45> Yeah, this could have messed up the config.
[01:27] <webchat45> thanks oerheks I'll try to figure that out now.
[01:34] <webchat45> "nmcli c show" displays two pvpn entries: killswitch and ip6leak-protection
[01:35] <nr0q_radio> I'd remove those
[01:35] <webchat45> yep. have to figure out how to do that. rebooting...
[01:43] <webchat45> nr0q_radio oerheks I removed the still existent pvpn connections and this fixed it. I am so grateful for your help :)
[01:44] <webchat45> How can I thank you otherwise?
[01:44] <nr0q_radio> just pass on the wisdom when someone else needs it
[01:44] <webchat45> always :9
[01:46] <webchat45> You saved me so much trouble, thanks again and bye!!
[03:17] <morganu> OK while in zoom with THIS group (and not the zoom I was in this morning??) my microphone goes way down and stays there, If I move it up it jumps back down. Help me, please.
[03:33] <morganu> revise question because the zoom this morning was on my tablet.
[03:34] <morganu> My zoom mic keeps going to a low setting.
[03:35] <morganu> I dont use my mic for anything other than zoom
[03:39] <nr0q_radio> it's probably a zoom setting, do you have auto-level or whatever it's called enabled?
[03:42] <nr0q_radio> the box in settings labeled "Automatically adjust microphone volume" .. uncheck that
[03:43] <nr0q_radio> then set your volume and it should stay, their auto-leveling thing sucks bad
[04:06] <morganu> my mic works fin in a messenger chat.
[04:07] <morganu> fine
[04:13] <nr0q_radio> see what I said above, it's not the OS but rather zoom probably is set to automatically turn the mic down for auto-leveling, it doesn't work very well
[04:14] <nr0q_radio> ls
[05:23] <rxdeath> so for al ong time my usb worked normally on 20.04, but now it takes a really long time (sometimes not at all) for it to show up in disks and mount
[05:24] <rxdeath> is there some bug or deal that casued this?  it worked fine for a while, then started being a jerk a while back and its finally angered me enough to see wtf is up
[05:24] <rxdeath> i will also say i'd love to disable write caching because i hate sitting there like a stooge for 15 minutes after the progess bar says it's finished, but i've gotten semi used to that
[06:03] <TJ-> rxdeath: check kernel log for I/O errors on the device. "journalctl -k -n 100" to see last 100 kernel messages
[07:36] <supone> I installed ubuntu 21.04 using the installer. selected luks + zfs. However I don't think it did FDE. It seems only swap and keystore-rpool are encrypted. Can someone help me verify?
[07:40] <supone> yeah I definitely think it was not encrypted... Does the installer not do FDE?
[07:40] <KBar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[07:41] <supone> my question is specifically related to the 21.04 installer. You can select LUKS + ZFS.
[07:42] <KBar> the guide says there are some post-installation steps to be done
[07:44] <supone> Ok will have a look. thanks.
[07:46] <supone> No seems that guide doesnt reference the 21.04 installer which allows one to select FDE + zfs. however the drive was not encrypted. Only swap and boot
[07:48] <aslan> is there anyone who understands slackware?
[07:49] <toddc> supone: encrypted ZFS is not fully working should encrypt root but there have been many edits over the last few weeks
[07:50] <guiverc> aslan, this is a Ubuntu support room, slackware is off-topic her
[07:50] <toddc> supone: at least on 21.04
[07:51] <KBar> aslan http://www.slackware.com/support/
[07:51] <aslan> what network is the slacware room on?
[07:51] <aslan> ok
[07:51] <KBar> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/forumdisplay.php?forumid=14
[07:51] <KBar> the last link is slackware forum
[07:54] <supone> toddc: thanks for letting me know. After install I assumed it was, real pity, have to start from scratch now. Any guide you can recommend to use? As the above posted guide is for LUKS + LVM, i wish to use LUKS + ZFS.... Thank you
[07:55] <Lumpio-> I have resorted to installing Google's version of Chrome instead of chromium in order to get a version that works. So far haven't seen any of the quirks that come with the snap version.
[07:56] <Lumpio-> Just as a warning, as if it was a final "fuck you" from Canonical, removing the chromium snap deletes your profile, but it gets saved in an obscure ZIP file in /var/lib/snapd/snapshots you can restore it from.
[07:57] <KBar> supone: many guides mention that grub-mkconfig and update-initrd won't recognize ZFS
[07:57] <KBar> supone maybe try these: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManualFullSystemEncryption
[07:57] <KBar> https://askubuntu.com/questions/729673/ubuntu-full-disk-encryption-with-encrypted-boot/801394#801394
[07:58] <aslan> why can't I connect to the Freenode network
[07:59] <Lumpio-> You didn't hear about the freenode takeover?
[07:59] <aslan> no
[07:59] <aslan> sorry, of course, but I'm a newbie
[08:00] <Mekaneck> aslan: this is a ubuntu support channel, please take your conversation about freenode to offtopic or #libera
[08:00] <Lumpio-> Google it it was big news
[08:01] <Mekaneck> Lumpio-: just leave please it since it's offtopic
[08:02] <rxdeath> usb usb4-port3: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[08:02] <rxdeath> i get this no matter what port i put it into, and using different flash drives
[08:03] <rxdeath> like every 4 seconds
[08:04] <Lumpio-> Mekaneck: I sincerely apologize for disturbing all the ongoing conversations with my two off-topic lines to help a person out. I will make sure to only stick to the topic which only lists guidelines and not hard rules, to the extent of being rude to people going forwards.
[08:05] <Mekaneck> Lumpio-: good
[08:05] <Lumpio-> lol
[08:18] <rxdeath> its funny how that gets an instant response but actual questions regarding ubuntu are nearly ignored
[08:19] <KBar> sorry. dont mind that person
[08:20] <rxdeath> i have incredibly slow usb mounting times
[08:20] <KBar> as to your question, i cannot help because i am not familiar with the subject
[08:20] <rxdeath> i've taken every signle usb device out/swapped ports/ different flash drives etc
[08:20] <rxdeath> usb usb4-port3: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[08:20] <rxdeath> but i get this every 4 seconds
[08:21] <rxdeath> i dual boot this machine and it doesn't complain in winblows
[08:21] <KBar> lol
[08:22] <KBar> but usb works, correct?
[08:22] <toddc> rxdeath: try a live media to eliminate hardware
[08:23] <rxdeath> wouldn't 'works in windows' cover that?
[08:23] <KBar> whats your ubuntu version? is it a fresh install?
[08:24] <rxdeath> 20.04
[08:24] <rxdeath> not fresh, but less than a year
[08:24] <rxdeath> i upgraded from 16.04, so i tend to run them a long time because i'm very lazy
[08:24] <KBar> the flash drives are mounted, right? it's just they're mounted really slow?
[08:24] <rxdeath> everything worked great until maybe 2 months ago
[08:25] <rxdeath> yes, that is typically what happens
[08:25] <rxdeath> sometimes over a minute
[08:25] <rxdeath> also the write cache makes me want to shoot myself, but i think those are 2 different issues
[08:25] <rxdeath> one of the few ways i want linux to work like windows, not the other way around.
[08:25] <rxdeath> have the progress bar be accurate ffs
[08:25] <KBar> the error you see appears in gui or you have to look at the terminal?
[08:25] <rxdeath> terminal
[08:26] <rxdeath> and i get it every 4 seconds
[08:26] <rxdeath> regardless of what is or isn't plugged in
[08:26] <rxdeath> with literally 0 things plugged into usb, it does that
[08:26] <KBar> even if nothing is plugged in?
[08:26] <KBar> strange
[08:27] <rxdeath> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/d4989e8619dc6fa793175ba076854857/pasted.txt
[08:27] <KBar> as i said, i have no idea about this, but the first think i would have done is to look at the journalctl
[08:27] <rxdeath> dmesg running, me unplugging my keyboard/mouse, and it sitll doing it
[08:27] <rxdeath> yea it gives the same thing as the dmesg
[08:28] <rxdeath> except with a readable date in the beginning
[08:28] <KBar> what if you switch to a virtual console?
[08:28] <KBar> and stop graphical environment
[08:28] <KBar> it still occurs?
[08:28] <rxdeath> i haven't tried that
[08:28] <rxdeath> is it like cntl f1 or some noise?
[08:28] <rxdeath> i don't remember how to do that
[08:29] <KBar> ctrl + alt + f1 through f6
[08:29] <KBar> f7 lets you back into gui
[08:29] <rxdeath> ok i'll try it brb
[08:30] <rxdeath> ok for me its f2 that gets me back in
[08:30] <rxdeath> but yes, when i did that, it would print out that message while waiting for me to log in
[08:30] <rxdeath> like i didn't even have to login for it to start printing the message over the login prompt
[08:32] <KBar> so it messed the prompt?
[08:32] <rxdeath> like it showed the login:  normal thing
[08:32] <rxdeath> but it would start printing that message over top even if i didn't log in
[08:33] <KBar> looks like there is something weird going on with the kernel itself
[08:33] <rxdeath> [309169.932532] usb usb4-port3: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[08:36] <KBar> rxdeath what's the output of lsusb -t?
[08:37] <rxdeath> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/d4989e8619dc6fa793175ba076854857/pasted.txt
[08:38] <KBar> uhm, thats the previous one
[08:38] <rxdeath> wut
[08:39] <rxdeath> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/688441ba12b9f293be99d49141573969/pasted.txt
[08:43] <KBar> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1856608
[08:44] <rxdeath> ok
[08:44] <rxdeath> so i remembered a few months back i got a usb cardreader deal
[08:44] <rxdeath> it plugs directly into a usb header on the motherboard
[08:44] <rxdeath> i pulled that shit out (yes, while the computer was running, i'm crazy)  and those messages stopped
[08:45] <rxdeath> so i think i want to plug it into the other header and see if the message comes back
[08:45] <KBar> lol
[08:45] <rxdeath> but is it likely that port is dead, or likely the card reader is an asshole
[08:45] <KBar> glad you found the root cause
[08:46] <rxdeath> and yes, now my usbs are mounting nearly instantly
[08:46] <rxdeath> (but i'd still like to talk about how to disable write caching to all usb devices)
[08:46] <rxdeath> so what you think, bad card reader, or bad port?
[08:46] <rxdeath> and is there a way to tell without just pulling shit and see what happens
[08:47] <KBar> i was looking at how to disable a specific port
[08:47] <KBar> but since you found the device thats been acting up
[08:48] <rxdeath> yea i just pulled the thing tyhat was plugged into the other header and moved it, and no message
[08:48] <rxdeath> i'm gonna plug that reader back into the other port and i bet its gonna be a dick
[08:48] <KBar> that, or try another reader
[08:48] <rxdeath> so what is causing that?  just a crappy reader?  i do want a card reader becaue i work a lot with sd and micro cards a lot and i hate looking for adapters all the time
[08:48] <KBar> maybe
[08:49] <KBar> try plugging in another reader into the same port
[08:49] <rxdeath> yea as expected, as soon as it was plugged into, it was bitching agin
[08:49] <rxdeath> so the error stays with the card reader, regardless of port
[08:50] <rxdeath> it does have a removable cord that one end is usba3.0 and the other is motherboard usb header
[08:50] <rxdeath> so  iguess i can try and get another cord and see if its less angry
[08:50] <rxdeath> but i bet not.
[08:50] <rxdeath> whats a well known good card reader that i can run off the usb header
[08:50] <KBar> for that, you might have to google
[08:51] <rxdeath> bew
[08:51] <KBar> im out of knowledge :D
[08:51] <rxdeath> hoping some had personal experience
[08:51] <rxdeath> google is full of 98% the dumbest questions and you have to pick the 1 right link out of 200 morons
[08:51] <KBar> try the same card reader on a live system if you can
[08:51] <KBar> maybe its just the kernel acting up
[08:52] <KBar> after some update
[08:52] <KBar> preferrably 21.10
[09:03] <rxdeath> lol
[09:04] <rxdeath> i just spend 15 minutes looking for a new one and finally found one that has micro sd and regular, plus a type c port
[09:04] <rxdeath> realized right before i bought it that it seems familiar and its the exact same one i have
[09:08] <KBar> and does the kernel complain about that one too?
[10:51] <nini321> hey all
[10:51] <KBar> hi
[10:51] <nini321> question time ...i have installed ubuntu but im having trouble getting my wifi to work.
[10:51] <nini321> can anyone help with this matter
[10:52] <Nervensaege> hello
[10:52] <nisa> nini321: which wifi card?
[10:52] <nini321> its a realtek
[10:52] <KBar> and which version of ubuntu
[10:52] <nisa> have you checked the driver manager?
[10:52] <Nervensaege> ubuntu works fine with wifi
[10:53] <nini321> no nisa
[10:53] <nisa> check it;-)
[10:54] <nini321> i just put in a ethernet cable after having all this trouble.I have been reading on the internet but no solution
[10:54] <Nervensaege> you have to search for Realtek in the driver manager
[10:54] <nini321> ok will do
[10:56] <nini321> are you talking about addition drivers menu ?
[10:56] <nisa> yeah
[10:56] <Nervensaege> yep
[10:56] <nini321> in there i have a update for the grahics card nothing else
[10:56] <nisa> which realtek is it exactly?
[10:56] <Nervensaege> i got a Realtek in a HP Pavilion Laptop (dv6440se)
[10:56] <KBar> what version of ubuntu nini321?
[10:57] <nini321> i just download the the one from there website so im guessing the lastest one :)
[10:57] <Nervensaege> and the driver for this one is named "rtl8723be"
[10:57] <nini321> Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0bda:c811 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 802.11ac NIC
[10:57] <nini321> does that help?
[10:57] <nisa> could you check lshw?
[10:59] <nini321> i dont see my wifi there
[11:00] <nisa> nini321: can you send the full output?
[11:00] <nini321> i have used this usb wifi card before. to use linux mint
[11:00] <nini321> a while ago
[11:00] <nini321> yes
[11:00] <nisa> also can you send the output of dmesg?
[11:00] <KBar> whats the outpuf of nmcli device status?
[11:00] <Nervensaege> If the output only shows this one line, that's normal: wlp2s0 UNCLAIMED
[11:01] <nini321> i have to create a pastebin account one second please
[11:01] <nisa> nini321: don't use pastebin
[11:01] <nisa> use https://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:01] <Nervensaege> @nisa http://pastebin.com/ZgX2wv7h
[11:01] <nini321> ok
[11:02] <nisa> Nervensaege: 404 also we weren't asking you
[11:02] <Nervensaege> @nisa: okay
[11:03] <nini321> https://pastebin.com/M6D8K146
[11:04] <nisa> nini321: and what's the output of dmesg?
[11:04] <Nervensaege> @nisa: http://pastebin.com/6K0jZsHN
[11:04] <nisa> Nervensaege: ok
[11:04] <Nervensaege> I have no idea what to do now :/
[11:05] <nini321> https://pastebin.com/86Sj8xwR
[11:06] <nisa> nini321: "Downshift occurred from negotiated speed 1Gbps to actual speed 100Mbps, check cabling" you should check your cable I guess
[11:06] <Nervensaege> Is there a way to downgrade from 17.10 to 16.04 ? I tried with a live disk but it didn't work
[11:06] <KBar> reinstall
[11:07] <nisa> nini321: nvm thats ethernet. The log indicates nothing at all about a wifi card
[11:07] <mgedmin> downgrades are not supported, but you might upgrade to 18.04 instead
[11:07] <Nervensaege> I know it can be done with 16.04
[11:07] <nini321> nisa its just a old ethernet cable
[11:07] <KBar> or include sources for 16.04 only and reinstall all packages
[11:07] <Nervensaege> But the installer doesn't allow you to choose an older version of Ubuntu :/
[11:08] <nini321> it use to work fine i have another computer using mint.with the same wifi usb and it is working fine ?
[11:08] <nisa> nini321: could you try just doing sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade ?
[11:09] <nini321> yes
[11:09] <nini321> 109 packages can be upgraded
[11:09] <Nervensaege> Do I have to install 16.04 or should I rather use a daily build ?
[11:10] <nisa> daily build?
[11:10] <Nervensaege> I mean this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BionicBeaver/Daily
[11:10] <KBar> 16.04 is EoL
[11:10] <Nervensaege> Oh, I see. So there is no way to do it with the current release ?
[11:10] <nini321> is that sudo apt-get update?
[11:10] <Nervensaege> Yes
[11:11] <nini321> i did that
[11:11] <nisa> upgrade too?
[11:11] <Nervensaege> nisa: What if I tell the installer that it should keep the same version as in 16.04?
[11:12] <KBar> i think some of you are confused
[11:12] <Nervensaege> Oh ok. I thought it was a server
[11:12] <nini321> https://pastebin.com/kmLckRtJ
[11:13] <nisa> nini321: yeah, run sudo apt upgrade
[11:13] <PyroPeter> on one of my ubuntu 20.04 hosts, I can use journalctl -u pattern matches, but not on the other. the man page on both hosts claims that it should work. https://tbruns.de/b28072a9fb22eeb7.txt
[11:14] <nisa> Oh yeah that's just the normal systemd weirdnes :D
[11:14] <nisa> Are you sure both machines are up-to-date?
[11:16] <nini321> ok updating now ....taps foot
[11:16] <PyroPeter> no, but they have identical systemd package versions
[11:16] <Nervensaege> nisa: It asked if I want to keep it at 16.04 (of course I said yes) and I said yes.
[11:16] <nini321> be back in 20mins ....life calls :(
[11:17] <KBar> PyroPeter make sure both machines are up-to-date.
[11:17] <nisa> PyroPeter: library versions may differ
[11:20] <PyroPeter> okay, now both hosts are up to date, but the issue persists
[11:22] <KBar> which unit exactly do you need to follow?
[11:24] <PyroPeter> I wrote some units myself, but I can reproduce the issue with ssh.service and ssh* as a pattern
[11:28] <KBar> one machine is able to recognize the ssh* pattern? (journalctl -u ssh*)
[11:28] <nisa> PyroPeter: OHHH, what if you do ssh\* instead?
[11:28] <PyroPeter> have you clicked on the link?
[11:28] <nisa> Maybe your shell interprets ssh* instead
[11:28] <Nervensaege> Does anyone else have problems with ubuntu 16.04 and the bluetooth keyboard that's built in with it? When I push the up key it just skips to the next keyboard layout.
[11:29] <PyroPeter> I copy&pasted the stuff in my link from my terminal
[11:30] <PyroPeter> and I have the same issue with `journalctl -u 'ssh*'`
[11:31] <nisa> nvm then
[11:31] <Nervensaege> And my bluetooth adapter worked just fine in 16.04
[11:32] <KBar> make sure those units are active and loaded then
[11:32] <Nervensaege> I mean the bluetooth keyboard
[11:32] <KBar> in the future, try using https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[11:33] <PyroPeter> that requires a login, and I run my own httpd anyway
[11:33] <KBar> please dont post links to random sites
[11:33] <Nervensaege> I should have specified, the keyboard is working fine, it's the keys on the keyboard itself
[11:34] <tarzeau_> Nervensaege: why not try if 18.04 or even better 20.04 improve it?
[11:34] <PyroPeter> okay, I get your concern
[11:34] <Nervensaege> I am using 18.04 right now
[11:34] <Nervensaege> tarzeau_, I am using it. But because it works fine on my other box, I thought there would be a problem with the keyboard itself
[11:34] <tarzeau_> the other box is running what os/release?
[11:37] <PyroPeter> thanks to you both for your efforts!
[11:37] <Nervensaege> 16.04 and 18.04
[12:39] <nini321> hey all i updated my nvidia driver on the driver manager now my screen resolution is awful and only has the one setting
[12:39] <nini321> i only have 1024 now
[12:39] <nini321> and i cant revert back
[12:40] <nini321> any ideas
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:43] <KBar> hello and welcome
[12:59] <no_gravity> In gparted, what is the difference between "Partition name" and "Label"?
[13:00] <ogra> one is a name in the partition table, the other is a label on the filesystem level
[13:00] <no_gravity> ogra: Oh, I see. So to name a partition that will not be formatted, I need to give it a "Partition name".
[13:00] <ogra> right
[13:00] <no_gravity> Thanks
[13:00] <ogra> notsure how much the partiton name will be used anywhere though ...
[13:01] <ogra> if you use Label= on your kernel cmdline or fstab i think that only looks at the filesystem level
[13:02] <no_gravity> Ok
[13:02] <Nervensaege> hi! i'm facing problems with the broadcom wifi on my laptop, when i open the console and write 'sudo rmmod brcm80211', then iwconfig wlan0 essid myssid mode managed   i will see that i have an ip. and i can ping google. but i don't know how to start, i mean, what to write in the command line. any help please?
[13:03] <no_gravity> When I copy a linux partition with "cp -a" to another partition, will I be able to boot that other partition?
[13:03] <Nervensaege> no_gravity: probably not :)
[13:07] <no_gravity> Nervensaege: ?
[13:07] <Nervensaege> no_gravity: when you copy one partition to another partition, you will be able to boot that new partition, if the bootloader was installed on that partition
[13:07] <no_gravity> Nervensaege: I would like to put the bootloader on yet another partition.
[13:07] <Nervensaege> and bootloader can be put on an arbitrary partition (I think, I have no real experience with this)
[13:07] <no_gravity> Nervensaege: And I guess I also need *another* partition with some efi stuff.
[13:07] <Nervensaege> no_gravity: yes
[13:08] <no_gravity> So 3 partitions to boot one.
[13:51] <tavasti> In my ubuntu 18.04, I have package linux-lowlatency (Desc: This package will always depend on the latest complete lowlatency Linux kernel available.)
[13:52] <tavasti> However, that package seems to be for 4.15 kernels, and there seems to be more recent lowlatency kernels
[13:52] <tavasti> what is meta package I should install to get for example linux-image-5.4.0-87-lowlatency?
[14:02] <KBar> tavasti try apt-cache policy linux-lowlatency
[14:02] <Nervensaege> you need to add a repository containing "linux-lowlatency" I think (I just do not remember it)
[14:04] <KBar> what do you have in candidate?
[14:05] <ogra> limux-lowlatency is in the main archive
[14:05] <Nervensaege> that is what I suggest in such cases
[14:06] <ogra> *linux
[14:06] <Nervensaege> tavasti: search for "linux-lowlatency" in the software center
[14:06] <ogra> (and maintained by the ubuntu kernel team proper, with all security fixes)
[14:07] <ogra> in focal (20.04) that will install a 5.4 kernel
[14:11] <KBar> yep. 4.15 is the latest version for bionic. if you want 5.4+, you need to upgrade your system to focal or later releases
[14:29] <lpe> Hi, I try to make a launcher for digikam.appimage - http://paste.debian.net/1214278/ I place this digikam.desktop in .local/share/applications but no works. An idea ?
[14:29] <Nervensaege> ogra: ok so I have a "linux-lowlatency" package which is installed
[14:31] <oerheks> lpe, why not the snap package? also 7.3.0 https://snapcraft.io/digikam
[14:32] <lpe> oerheks, yes why not, but why not I can't create a launcher for my appimage ?
[14:33] <ogra> lpe, /home/.local/ ???
[14:34] <ogra> do you mean /home/<user>/.local perhaps ?
[14:34] <oerheks> good spot ogra
[14:38] <lpe> ogra, thanks, the bug was because I changed the place of the appimage. But I do not see digikam in gnome panel
[14:39] <oerheks> lpe, maybe you need to logout/login to load the launcher and take effect?
[14:39] <oerheks> you did this on user level, not systemwide
[14:39] <Nervensaege> ogra: ok so when I check "apt-cache policy linux-image-4.10.0-37-generic", I see that the repository is activated, and I have "Installed: 4.10.0-37.42" but it is not installed
[14:40] <ogra> Nervensaege, how do you mean "the repository is activated" ? linux-generic comes from the main archive too ... and depends on the correct linux-image-*-generic
[14:40] <lpe> oerheks, i come back
[14:40] <Nervensaege> well, I've updated my system with "sudo apt update", and I wanted to install a package
[14:41] <Nervensaege> ogra: yes I have both, but I have activated "Unofficial archive for Ubuntu Artful" (https://usn.ubuntu.com/4195-1/) but it is not activated
[14:42] <ogra> Nervensaege, artful ?
[14:42] <Nervensaege> yes
[14:42] <ogra> thats long dead and buried
[14:42] <Nervensaege> ok, so I can install it with "sudo apt install linux-generic"?
[14:43] <ogra> that is the default kernel on every ubuntu install ... yes, you should be able to install linux-generic at any time
[14:43] <lpe> oerheks, yes, after a new login, works ! thanks !
[14:43] <ogra> (which then pulls in the supported -image- package for your respective release)
[14:43] <Nervensaege> i have a package "linux-generic", and if i try to install it, it says that "no information found", but i tried with "sudo apt install linux-generic" and then "apt full-upgrade" and then "sudo apt install linux-generic", i don't understand what i'm doing wrong
[14:44] <ogra> Nervensaege, paste the output of what you are doing with all failures to a pastebin ...
[14:44] <Nervensaege> i have 2 problems now. I installed the kernel 4.10.0.13, and it don't want to start. If i want to use "sudo systemctl restart grub-efi-amd-rhel7" it says that "systemd-resolved.service is disabled; edit /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/systemd-resolved.service and
[14:46] <ogra> Nervensaege, i dont think there is a supported 4.10 version of the kernel anywhere in ubuntus archive
[14:46] <Nervensaege> it's just a little bugfix for the graphic driver. and this graphic driver is for work i do now
[14:46] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta
[14:47] <ogra> 4.4 (in 16.04) and 4.15 (18.04] are there ...
[15:09] <tavasti> KBar, no other candidates as the one that is installed
[15:09] <Nervensaege> the package is linux-generic and i think that's just a dummy package
[15:10] <tavasti> Nervensaege, prefer command-line, haven't ever even started those graphical package managers
[15:10] <Nervensaege> ok, thanks for the command line. it just works :)
[15:21] <webchat48> Hello everybody. I have a problem bridging ethernet on Ubuntu 21.04 (Host) into kvm/qemu. Is there anyone who can help?
[16:05] <Gwalenn> hi, I mount with fstab a hd in /media/Data. How to give a name to this hd instead of the generic volume name ?
[16:12] <TRS> Hey Gang, I'm looking for some support on webmin. I want to alter what module is loaded after login by default. It's dashboard now and I can't find the config to change the setting.  Ubuntu 21
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> !webmin | TRS
[16:13] <Nervensaege> Gwalenn: what is the output of your mount command?
[16:14] <ogra> TRS, isnt there a webmin forum/IRC/chat ... ? webmin has been removed from debian and ubuntu over a decade ago due to its multiple security issues
[16:14] <TRS> nope
[16:14] <TRS> two bots in it
[16:14] <TRS> that's it
[16:14] <TRS> Whats the migration path from wbmin for ubuntu now that's no longer supported?
[16:15] <ogra> well, given it has not been in ubuntu for a very long time you'll have a hard time finding support in here ....
[16:15] <TRS> what does everyone use now on ubuntu instead of webmin?
[16:17]  * ogra uses the CLI to manage his servers 🙂
[16:20] <ogra> TRS, there is "cockpit" ... and there was one starting with "Z" that i forgot the name for
[16:21] <ogra> both should be on the archive proper
[16:22] <TRS> Thanks
[16:22] <Nervensaege> Gwalenn: nothing changed, still the same
[16:25] <TJ-> TRS: webmin support is in their forums and trouble tickets
[16:27] <beuys> How do I map the tab key so it works as an escape key?
[16:29] <ogra> TRS, ah, i remember again, it was "zentyal" but seems their packages are gone from the archive with 20.04 (and perhaps longer)
[16:30] <TRS> Thanks again.....I'm looking at cockpit right now. Seems it will be okay
[16:30] <TJ-> TRS: for the record; I've had webmn/virtualmin in constant use since 2007 on Ubuntu without any problems across upgrades or whatever
[16:30] <ogra> beuys, uh, why would you do that ? ... given tab is ofen used in many contexts (tabbing through elements of a webpage for example ... using editors ... etc )
[16:31] <TRS> TJ: I've had no issues either except my squid version is too new for webmin to  manage.
[16:31] <Nervensaege> ogra: but it doesn't really happen with the old release... at least not that often
[16:31] <beuys> ogra: Oh, I meant caps
[16:31] <Nervensaege> *release
[16:32] <beuys> Looks like this does the trick: setxkbmap -option caps:escape
[16:32] <Nervensaege> beuys: thanks, i'll try that
[16:32] <ogra> beuys, in the default Uuntu GNOME desktop you should be able to map that in the keyboard settings
[16:32] <ogra> *Ubuntu
[16:32] <Nervensaege> ok it didn't really work, but thanks :)
[16:32] <beuys> ogra: I prefer to do everything in my bashrc.
[16:32] <beuys> ogra: So I have all config in one place.
[16:33] <beuys> Nervensaege: What didn't work?
[16:33] <Nervensaege> setxkbmap -option caps:nocaps -option deadkeys:nocaps
[16:33] <ogra> beuys, well, not sure setxkbmap will still work in wayland
[16:33] <ogra> so ot really future proof 🙂
[16:33] <ogra> *not
[16:33] <Nervensaege> beuys: i'm not 100% sure, but i thought that this would be the same solution i used to change keyboard in x
[16:33] <beuys> ogra: Ain't I in wayland?
[16:33] <ogra> dunno, are you ?
[16:33] <beuys> ogra: How do I test?
[16:34] <ogra> ps aux|grep Xorg
[16:34] <beuys> Nervensaege: This works for me: setxkbmap -option caps:escape
[16:34] <Nervensaege> i think you'll find that you're on X11...
[16:34] <Nervensaege> beuys: I know that x-server works for me, but I can't tell how to get it in bashrc
[16:34] <webchat76> Hello, I have a problem bridging ethernet on Ubuntu 21.04 (Host) into kvm/qemu. Anyone could help?
[16:35] <beuys> ogra: That outputs a bunch of stuff.
[16:35] <ogra> webchat76, perhaps #ubuntu-server can help better with that
[16:35] <ogra> beuys, well any Xorg process owned by your user ?
[16:35] <ogra> "/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg"
[16:36] <webchat76> @ogra many thanks. I will try it there.
[16:36] <beuys> ogra: Yes
[16:36] <Nervensaege> webchat: have you checked the bridging guide ?
[16:36] <ogra> beuys, well, then you are running X11
[16:37] <beuys> ogra: Wow. I thought Ubuntu switched to Wayland long ago.
[16:37] <ogra> with 21.10 (and onwards) ubuntu will default to wayland everywhere
[16:37] <Nervensaege> webchat: http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/UsersGuide/Bridging#Networking
[16:38] <ogra> beuys, didnt work because nvidia breaks wayland ... they only fixed it recently so now we can switch
[16:38] <ogra> there was one release in the past where wayland was tried as default during the dev cycle but it had still too many issues
[16:38] <ogra> 21.10 will be the release now
[16:39] <beuys> ogra: Wow
[16:39] <TRS> TJ-:  Do you know how to change which landing page is displayed in webmin for a user after they login?
[16:40] <webchat76> Nervensaege No, but this link seems outdated.
[16:40] <Nervensaege> webchat: if you use ethernet on your vm you can just use nat
[16:40] <beuys> ogra: I think I remember X11 is riddled with unfixable security flaws?
[16:40] <TJ-> TRS: no; never needed that
[16:40] <Nervensaege> if you want to use wifi i use this command sudo ip link set enp0s3 master br-100
[16:41] <webchat76> Nervensaege I am not sure exactly what you mean by that. let me first better describe the case:
[16:41] <Nervensaege> and then if you want to use wifi sudo ip link set wlp3s0 master br-100
[16:42] <TRS> TJ-:  Found it! under Theme configuration
[16:42] <TRS> *roll eyes*
[16:42] <Nervensaege> webchat: when you are running the docker image in your VM just use it's IP address and you are good to go
[16:44] <webchat76> I yesterday for other reasons deleted the bridge using the nm-connection-manager, and after that the wired connection is not working anymore
[16:44] <ogra> beuys, yeah by design
[16:44] <Nervensaege> no problem, but when you connect you will have to use the ip address
[16:46] <webchat76> OK, I see, just ignore nervensaege ;)
[17:34] <webchat80> Noone responding in ubuntu-server
[17:34] <webchat80> ogra
[17:35] <webchat80> I'll just ask again here?
[17:35] <Nervensaege> webchat: you may have to change the ip if you don't let the vm be in dhcp mode, but usually it works out of the box, because I have seen the networkmanager do that for me on a lot of ubuntu-mate VMs with docker installed
[17:41] <oerheks> Nervensaege, totally different problems.. and please, do not give weird advise, for the 2nd day
[17:41] <Nervensaege> oerheks: well, i was giving him a workaround, so he could have done it himself
[17:41] <oerheks> stop it, thanks
[17:41] <Nervensaege> sorry for that
[17:42] <Mike00>  /script install mouse.pl
[17:56] <samir> Hi Everyone.  I've got a daily cron job listed in my crontab -l.  Is there an easy way to skip today's execution but resume on a daily schedule tomorrow?
[17:56] <Nervensaege> samir: you can have multiple "jobs" in one cron-file, in case you want to add more jobs
[17:59] <samir> Nervensaege:  Apologies but I'm not sure I understand how that helps me skip today's execution without impacting future runs of my job
[17:59] <Nervensaege> samir: if the crontab -l command shows more than one line, each line is like an single cron-job. You add more than one by starting the new one with "@ " and then putting " */5" on the end. So it could look like "@every 5min *.pl" for your job (and ".pl" is your script file)
[18:00] <tomreyn> Nervensaege: but this still doesn't answer samir's question, i would think
[18:00] <Nervensaege> tomreyn: Ah, sry then I was not answering your question. I'm not very experienced in crontab-tricks and didn't want to mislead.
[18:02] <samir> I'd prefer not stopping the cron service as that would impact other jobs that are scheduled
[18:03] <TJ-> samir: is the 'job' a shell script or command to be called?
[18:03] <tomreyn> samir: i don't think there is. you could edit the cron job to not run if the date mateches today's. and then later change it again to remove that test.
[18:03] <samir> TJ-: the job executes a shell script
[18:04] <samir> tomreyn: My original thought was to just comment it out for today and then uncomment it out tomorrow (assuming I remembered to do that!)
[18:05] <samir> I guess I could create another job to remind me!
[18:05] <tomreyn> samir: right, that's more risky
[18:06] <TJ-> samir: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/chRGzT5yn6/
[18:07] <TJ-> samir: basically, install a non-op placeholder with the same script name but in /usr/local/bin/ where it should be found in PATH before your actual script (assuming your actual cron script isn't also in /usr/local/bin/). This script does nothing except delete itself
[18:07] <Nervensaege> I would like to get access to the full list of installed packages with the command dpkg --get-selections and sort it like this
[18:08] <TJ-> Nervensaege: better to use "sudo debfoster -q; debfoster --show-keepers"
[18:08] <Nervensaege> I like how the package manager asks questions when you install new packages
[18:08] <tomreyn> samir: my approach was to change your current    foobar    into    [ "$(date +%Y%m%d)" -ne 20211004 ] && foobar
[18:08] <TJ-> Nervensaege: --get-selections lists versioned libraries, whereas debfoster --show-keepers lists only packages that are at the top of the dependency pile
[18:09] <Nervensaege> thanks I guess
[18:10] <Aavar> Is there a simple tool to set a static IP in ubuntu? one that does not need to edit files and so on. For example in the way that Raspberry OS or Pihole does it?
[18:10] <samir> TJ-: Thanks.  Looks like a self-destructing do-nothing script?  Appreciate the suggestion!
[18:10] <Aavar> (in terminal)
[18:11] <TJ-> samir: yes; it just gets called due to the PATH location before the usual script (providing the 'real' script is later in the PATH)
[18:11] <Nervensaege> What I really hate is when stuff like python3 isn't listed, even though I have the package installed
[18:11] <oerheks> Aavar, networkmanager only i guess
[18:11] <samir> tomreyn: Got it.  Just a one-time change which I don't have to worry about remembering to update again tomorrow
[18:11] <Nervensaege> it just seems to ignore everything
[18:11] <TJ-> Nervensaege: what 'it' are you referring to?
[18:11] <Nervensaege> that list
[18:12] <oerheks> *uhum* all current ubuntu versions have python3 installed
[18:15] <Aavar> oerheks: hmm... there should be one :D If only I knew any programing...
[18:16] <oerheks> nm-cli?
[18:16] <TJ-> someone elsewhere was asking how to limit I/O for a process to avoid stalling other operations. I put this simple cgroups demo together to show how easy it is using cgroups, and wanted to share it before I forget. https://paste.debian.net/1214302/
[18:17] <oerheks> some hints; https://opensource.com/article/20/7/nmcli
[18:18] <tomreyn> Aavar: there is "ip"
[18:18] <Aavar> oerheks: thank you. I will look into it :)
[18:18] <TJ-> Aavar: e.g. "sudo ip address add fe80::1/64 dev eth0"
[18:25] <Aavar> TJ-: That only sets a ip like ifconfig does right? It doesn't configure the machine to use a static ip? Am I right?
[18:25] <Nervensaege> hi
[18:29] <TJ-> Aavar: it sets a static IPv6 on eth0
[19:43] <dev4449> Hi. Good day. I installed ubuntu 20.04 on a lenovo thinkpad t560 laptop today. The icons and generally everything is small. You might notice how small things are in this image:https://imgur.com/a/9KNhYDi
[19:44] <dev4449> It's difficult to read and identify things.
[19:44] <sarnold> dev4449: that's the funny thing with screenshots.. it all looks *huge* to me
[19:45] <dev4449> sarnold: Oh.
[19:46] <dev4449> I can't think of another way to show you how things look
[19:48] <sarnold> yeah... an actual photograph of the screen, with something 'regular' sized near it might do the trick. but it's hard to be confident that'll actually be useful :)
[19:50] <velix> Is there an official channel for "snap" on any network?
[19:50] <dev4449> sarnold: I guess I will simply live with this. I'll set bigger font size. so it would be no problem any longer.
[19:51] <ogra> dev4449, got to settings->display settings there you can switch on 200% scaling
[19:51] <sarnold> velix: #snappy perhaps?
[19:52] <dev4449> ogra: I tried that. Things become very very big.
[19:52] <velix> sarnold: Thanks!
[19:53] <dev4449> I just turned on "Large Text" option in universal access in settings. I can easily read things now. So the problem is generally solved.
[19:55] <ogra> dev4449, well, i tend to turn on 200%, then scale down the fonts (using gnome-tweaks) so things like buttons are not so small
[19:55] <ogra> biut if you are fine with the smaller UI elements just font scaling does the job too indeed
[19:55] <dev4449> ogra: Yeah
[20:07] <nisa> How minimal is Ubuntu Core compared to just something like Debian base?
[20:08] <nisa> or even base void linux?
[20:09] <sarnold> nisa: I think ubuntu core is just a kernel and snapd -- check the manifests here https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/20/stable/current/
[20:09] <nisa> okay alr
[20:09] <FakePhish> Can anyone help me out with a problem with the update command? It's not really a problem, but is just a quick question
[20:09] <VerlorrenLol> Hello guys, I want to reinstall an Ubuntu machine with a clean home partition but I don't want to go the whole hog by installing "doze" again.
[20:09] <NoSuchBugOrFeatu> Anyone have any idea on the issue I'm having in 19.10? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2388272
[20:09] <JustAnotherCamel> I'll try to find a text log I made of it
[20:09] <NoSuchBugOrFeatu> VerlorrenLol, you could always try "dd"
[20:09] <JustAnotherCamel> Hi all. I need help. I have just upgraded my kubuntu to 20.10 and suddenly my wifi stopped working. The old 17.10 setup works and the problem is not that it doesn't show up in the list of available networks but that I cannot connect to any network. I have tried the solutions in this thread: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2426605 but it has not helped. Any ideas?
[20:09] <VerlorrenLol> NoSuchBugOrFeatu, "dd"
[20:11] <sarnold> heh, I wonder what that was about..
[20:12] <wirehead> anyone know of a website scraping program
[20:12] <wirehead> something with GUI
[20:12] <sarnold> wirehead: this might be a starting point https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_ARChive
[20:16] <pasiz> almost suggested wget, but there is no gui...
[20:17] <sarnold> yeah, wget --mirror is my go-to butno gui
[20:17] <sarnold> so
[20:17] <Simplar> What's happening with facebook i wonder
[20:19] <wirehead> I'm hastily scraping websites before the internet possibly gets taken down
[20:20] <wirehead> World Economic Forum spoke of a Cyber Polygon scenario that suggested something like that could happen
[20:26] <sarnold> wirehead: https://communitywebs.archive-it.org/about.html
[20:34] <Bashing-om> nisa: Too is: https://ubuntu.com/core/docs/system-requirements - the docs :D
[21:17] <u0_a480> ls
[22:55] <TortillaSandwich> anyone know why firefox doesn't remember its window size after being closed and reopened?