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| lordievader | Good morning | 07:37 |
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| flaf | Hi @all. Here is someone who knows “subiquity” (new installer for Ubuntu server) and can tell me if it's possible to make a full automatic and _*minimal*_ install of Ubuntu server, for instance without snapd (in clear just with openssh-server installed)? Thx for your help. | 10:35 |
| flaf | (in my case it's Ubuntu Focal Fossa 20.04) | 10:37 |
| flaf | (and doc of subiquity is here https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall-quickstart) | 10:47 |
| Obscenity | a thought comes to mind when joing here, anyone noticed the newer installers are labeled "live" and not "installer"? its confused me a few times | 11:56 |
| dbungert | flaf: have you played with the late-commands portion of autoinstall? I expect it should do what you want but haven't tested that case yet. | 13:45 |
| flaf | dbungert: yes, I see it. So, in this case, I should have to run something like “apt-get purge <package I don't wan't>”. But I'm wondering if it can be possible to limit installation to a minimum of packages from the start. | 13:47 |
| flaf | dbungert: but I think it's impossible, I'm afraid. | 13:48 |
| dbungert | flaf: for your exact case, no. | 13:48 |
| flaf | dbungert: ok, thx for your confirmation. | 13:49 |
| dbungert | we have some work in progress on a install source that is 500MBish smaller and "not intended for humans", but it doesn't address your snapless scenario | 13:49 |
| flaf | dbungert: "not intended for humanss"? | 13:50 |
| dbungert | flaf: ie to help save space we remove stuff that people using the device interactively might want - but things like apt are still there so you can human-ify it if needed :) | 13:51 |
| flaf | dbungert: interesting. How can I follow this project and know when it will be released? | 13:53 |
| dbungert | new subiquity will support it for the upcoming Impish release (and subsequent releases), not sure if it will apply to Focal | 13:55 |
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| ogra | isnt subiquity itself moving to become a snap (for upgraeability during install) ? | 14:01 |
| dbungert | ogra: is already | 14:01 |
| dbungert | and it can do the upgrade during install, if the user chooses to do so when prompted | 14:01 |
| flaf | ogra: subiquity is a snap during the installer "session". | 14:02 |
| flaf | but the target installation can be installed without snap (in theory). | 14:04 |
| ogra | dbungert, right, that was what i remembered ... i was just wondering if that might have any impact on the target system ... but seems like not | 14:33 |
| dbungert | ogra: I think I'm missing something, would you elaborate? | 14:40 |
| ogra | dbungert, i was wondering if the snap or parts of it would be needed/required in the installed target for some reason ... but since thats not the case snapd is indeed removabe from the target ... all fine | 14:41 |
| dbungert | ah yes, subiquity has no business on the installed target system | 14:41 |
| ogra | right | 14:41 |
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| flaf | dbungert: do you know why, during the installation via subiquity, the OS installer try to connect https://api.snapcraft.io? | 15:37 |
| dbungert | it enumerates a list of suggested snaps for the snaps page | 15:38 |
| dbungert | also might be involved in subiquity's check for a new version of subiquity | 15:39 |
| flaf | dbungert: in my case, the VM has no Internet access, only a proxy for APT. But it seems to not be a problem during my auto-installation. | 15:40 |
| flaf | dbungert: sorry for the ping, I have tried this in late-commands => “curtin in-target --target=/target -- apt-get -y -q purge snapd” during my automatic install. But I can see the error message “finish: subiquity/Late/run: ... purge snapd']' returned non-zero exit status 100.” Is there a log file where I can see the output of the command to see the error (maybe)? | 18:24 |
| dbungert | flaf: check journalctl, it outputs additional information. I'd love to have all that in the subiquity log also but for now it's in the journal. | 18:25 |
| flaf | Ok, thx dbungert. | 18:26 |
| dbungert | flaf: just be wary of LP: #1939176, which I do expect we'll have fixed in the next release | 18:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1939176 in subiquity "Hangs every now and then" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1939176 | 18:33 |
| dbungert | (late-commands related hang) | 18:33 |
| flaf | dbungert: ok, thx for the information. In my case, it's a problem during the purge where a postscript try a ummount in /run/... which fails. | 18:39 |
| dbungert | flaf: that one sounds like we should file a bug, if you don't mind. https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+filebug | 18:42 |
| flaf | dbungert: I can file a bug but I'm not sure it's a bug in this case. During the "curtin in-target --target=/target -- apt-get purge snapd", a postscript wants to unmount a mountpoint in /run/snap/... (sorry I don't remember the path exactly). And it's logic that the directory in not yet mounted because the target OS is not started yet. So for me it's not a bug, no? | 18:46 |
| dbungert | flaf: maybe, maybe not. In my opinion late-commands should be a fairly rich mechanism for customizing the install - an escape hatch for things we don't have direct support for. If it's as easy as mounting something it needs, that sounds worthwile. | 18:48 |
| mwhudson | dbungert, paride: ah seems the test answer files all need sources: sections adding | 21:44 |
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