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spinullits mounting the share as root00:32
spinullinstead of with the user provided in the mount command00:33
spinullnvm, looks like just adding option "noperm" to the command is a fix00:41
EmilHi01:10
EmilDoes anyone know if the ubuntu images for raspberry pi 4 work out of the box with hardware video decoding support?01:12
sarnoldEmil: probably yes, though go with 21.04, not 20.04. 20.04 was missing some stuff for rpi4 things, I can't recall what01:14
sarnoldEmil: the 21.04 release notes mention accelerated wayland as a possibility, so it might even be that there's two supported accelerated desktops https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-notes/1922101:15
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C0nundrum15How do i get / to not be busy so i can run a fsck on it02:02
tomreynC0nundrum15: you can do so from recovery02:04
tomreyn!recovery | C0nundrum1502:04
ubottuC0nundrum15: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode02:04
C0nundrum15i can boot into normal mode02:04
C0nundrum15there are just disk errors02:04
C0nundrum15is there a faster / easier way that recovery mode ?02:04
C0nundrum15sudo touch /forcefsck02:05
C0nundrum15doesn't seem to do anything in 18.04 either02:05
JanCwhat disk errors?02:06
JanCyou can't fix _disk_ errors with fsck02:07
JanCthat only fixes _file system_ errors02:07
tomreyn*tries to02:07
sarnold:)02:07
JanCwell, yeah02:07
tomreynin case of a broken disk it's more likely to make things worse02:08
JanCin fact it might make things worse if there are actual disk errors02:08
tomreyn:)02:08
JanC :)02:08
JanCprobably best to check SMART data first02:10
tomreynC0nundrum15: ^02:11
tomreyn!smart02:11
ubottusmart is Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology, a monitoring system for hard drives. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools02:11
C0nundrum15I know fsck will fix it. i just ran out of space02:11
JanCthen use recovery mode or boot from an Ubuntu live disk/CD & run fsck from there02:14
JanC(I think the live images don't auto-mount filesystems, but if they do you can always unmount them)02:16
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leftyfbC0nundrum: do be clear,no, there is no "faster / easier" way than running an fsck on a filesystem properly. You should do it while it's unmounted02:31
C0nundrum32dam02:32
C0nundrum32i made things worse lol02:32
C0nundrum32i edited my fstab to make it ro and that allowed me to run fsck and fix the erorrs02:32
sarnoldoh my02:32
C0nundrum32but now , i can't edit fstab back02:32
C0nundrum32= (02:33
leftyfbC0nundrum32: use a live cd/usb like you were told originally02:33
sarnoldat this point you ought to reboot02:33
C0nundrum32I went into recover mode02:33
C0nundrum32and choose drop to root02:33
C0nundrum32and tried to edit it, but its read only02:33
leftyfbC0nundrum32: use a live cd/usb02:33
C0nundrum32Ah i thought i did, i guess i just booted to the on disk grub02:34
C0nundrum32so just clicked try ubuntu02:35
leftyfbC0nundrum32: btw, mounting the filesystem ro is still mounting the filesystem. Running fsck on that is also not going to work. So regardless, you till need to run fsck on it02:36
C0nundrum36SO i booted the life cd03:22
C0nundrum36[11:21:06 PM] <C0nundrum36> WHen i run fsck on /dev/sda1 i get. Superblock invalid, bad magic number in super-block etc03:22
C0nundrum36[11:21:44 PM] ← bsd4me has left (Quit: leaving)03:22
C0nundrum36Its a Gpt partition configured with the normal linux install. with the ubuntu--vg-ubuntu-lv on sda303:23
C0nundrum36What am i suppose to do now ?03:23
C0nundrum36If i try to mount sda3 i get unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'.03:24
leftyfbC0nundrum36: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-mount-an-lvm-volume-partition-command/03:27
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FirefisheWhen doing:  $ source $HOME/.bashrc, I get the following from standard output:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/48c8j2kdWV/03:41
FirefisheHere is a paste of my .bashrc file:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kDkBkHRDkM/03:42
Bashing-omFirefishe: Missplaced quote mark line 31:  it existsLL=/bin/sh lesspipe)" ; move the quaote mark to make is as: "$(SHEmkdir ~/.kde/env" - is what I see.03:47
mybalzitchyep03:47
Firefishe--checking--03:48
FirefisheBashing-om, mybalzitch:  Here is my resaved .bashrc.  I'm still getting the error when I do source.  it's gotta be somethin' simple I'm missing.  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T8Mq2BVtpq/03:55
Firefisherebooting03:59
FirefisheBashing-om, mybalzitch:  Had some fluff to get rid of.04:02
Bashing-omFirefishe: Ya still have that quote mark at the end of line 31 :(04:02
FirefisheBashing-om: So get rid of the one quote mark?04:02
FirefisheJust the one?04:02
FirefisheBashing-om: All right.  Done.04:03
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Bashing-omFirefishe: should make no differnece there as it is a comment. but is kust out of place and makes no sense to exist.04:04
Bashing-omkust/just*04:04
FirefisheBashing-om: I get that, but now the output has changed. When I launch bash, I get this:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P6cGhbssVn/  --  And the modified .bashrc:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JRbSzsvv4F/04:08
Bashing-omFirefishe: While looking ^ - what is the expression "SHEmkdir ~/.kde/env" ?04:09
Joelubuntu 20, Wifi lost connection, sitting at a prompt asking me to re-enter the password. Though I have the password saved, and it didn't change. I entered the password, still didn't connect. I then had to select the wireless network again, and then it connected. I have it selected as priorty 0 for auto connect. Any recommendations on what I can read to help me set it so it never stops trying to reconnect? I especially don't get why it asks for a password reprompt.04:09
FirefisheBashing-om: It may be from what I was doing before.  I was going through some instructions to build amarok from git source (from the current tree), and there were some $PATH variables I had placed at the end of the .bashrc file, then ran that source command.  Well, after looking around a bit, I realized that these instructions might be dated.04:11
FirefisheSo I deleted them from the end of .bashrc, then ran the source command again.04:11
FirefisheBashing-om: That's when all this started.04:11
sdolan104:12
Bashing-omFirefishe: Original line 31:  && eval "$(SHELL=/bin/sh lesspipe)" -- note there is a closing ) mark for the expresiion.04:18
FirefisheBashing-om: That did  it!  I got rid of the ending part, however that got in there.  Going to leave .bashrc alone.  Thank you for the assistance, I appreciate it! :-)04:21
Bashing-omFirefishe: quite welcome - let this be a lession to always make a backup first of an edited file :)04:23
FirefisheBashing-om: Duh, and Gloom, Despair, and Agony on Me! LOL  I should have, and I forgot that basic rule.  I need to get back into the code mode again.  So much lost, so many brain cells fried.04:24
FirefisheBashing-om: I-Am-Not-Twenty-Anymore.04:25
FirefisheI shall repeat that muitiple times. ;)04:25
Bashing-omLOL - yeah - I can relate ! Firefishe04:26
FirefisheBashing-om: Well, nothing like real world editing and error making to get one back on the correct logic track for doing this type of thing.04:27
FirefisheBashing-om: And again, I do appreciate the help,.04:27
FirefisheNice to know that IRC is still here and relevant!k04:27
Bashing-omFirefishe: Also in this case our developers covered for us as there does exist a backup of the file in /etc/skel/ :)04:28
FirefisheBashing-om: Ahhhhh.  Nice to know that.04:29
Bashing-omI be done for this session - laters all \o04:30
FirefisheLaters, Bashing-om.  Be Well.04:30
Bashing-omFirefishe: Thanks - Poof04:31
C0nundrum36Hey04:40
C0nundrum36So i booted a live cd and ran fsck but i ubuntu still warns me about errors on the lvm volume. Want else can i try ?04:41
QuetzalcoatlHi there! I have this problem: I bought a dell laptop with ubuntu 18.04 lts preinstalled. After a couple of days I decided to upgrade to 20.04 lts. After couple of days, I can't connect to my wifi.04:45
QuetzalcoatlI tried using hotspot and it is working. After that I decided to use the wired connection to connect to the network/internet. Last week my wired connection decided to stop working. The only thing that I did before this happend was to update the system04:48
QuetzalcoatlAny ideas on what should I do ?04:48
QuetzalcoatlI did a manual configuration of the wired card but nothing happend.04:49
QuetzalcoatlDo you think that a fresh install will solve my problems?04:50
lotuspsychjeQuetzalcoatl: its possible the upgrade resulted you to 5.11 kernel (uname -a ) and that it doesnt like your wifi chipset, check your dmesg for deeper investigation04:50
QuetzalcoatlI sent the laptop to a computer service and they tested the wifi and wired cards with a live ubuntu. The result: the wifi card connected instantly to their wifi network but the wired card did not04:54
Quetzalcoatllotuspsychje: i will take a look to logs04:55
lotuspsychjeQuetzalcoatl: could you check your current kernel plz?04:56
QuetzalcoatlI cant right now because the laptop is not with me right now.04:56
QuetzalcoatlI assume that the kernel is04:57
Quetzalcoatl5.4.0-8804:57
Quetzalcoatlbecause I use the official kernel provided by canonical04:58
lotuspsychjeQuetzalcoatl: best to come back for support, when you have the machine nearby so volunteers can live support you04:58
Quetzalcoatlyeah04:59
famubuHi. I was trying to install emacs packages from within emacs on ubuntu but got certificate errors. `gnutls-cli elpa.gnu.org` shows the same thing (output: https://bpa.st/UN7Q) but I can access elpa.gnu.org on browser. Does anyone know how this can be fixed?05:57
weqanyone able to help me understand why this is happening? https://imgur.com/a/zICSna306:08
weqthe echo is done by a setup script.06:09
rfmweq. why *what* is happening?  (imgur sure seems like the wrong tool for presenting this...)  echo's showing the contents of the quoted string from #! to sed -e, then the backquoted quote, then the quoted string starting with s/,06:18
klausfiendrfm: you may want to check out https://termbin.com/ for copy-pasta of terminal stuff06:19
rfmweq ^06:20
weqthe bois over at #linux suggested it might needed more escaping since it might be seen as an escape sequence. Trying to redeploy now to test.06:20
klausfiendalso, if you're just looking for the hostname without the FQDN, try $(hostname -s)06:20
klausfiend(that should print the hostname up to but not including anything after the first dot)06:20
weqI was just baffeled by the notion of something I'd assume would be a string literal would be processed.06:21
klausfiendalternatively you could also try bash shell expansions to extract the goo you want06:21
weqIt is an sed expression that takes parts of the name and appends the rest and it "works" when I paste the entire echo block like `echo crap > file` but not when it all being executed via a setup script.06:21
jushurthe pre ' tells me that is not a string, it is a list as a string ...06:21
weqthen it replaced \1 with a nifty square.06:22
klausfiendit might also be a non-printing (e.g., non-ASCII) character that sed is mangling because sed is kinda dumb sometimes06:22
weqwell \\1 worked as expected compared to \1. so ty regardless.06:22
jushurever used fish shell? if you did you would know why this is so.06:22
weqI'm a pwsh dude, and not a regular bash scripter so nope.06:23
klausfiendweq: what exactly are you trying to do?06:25
weqit works as expected now, but it is a setup script that makes indepented certs with certbot.06:26
weqso I take parts of the hostname and append our domain to get the FQDN so I can make the letsencrypt challenge.06:26
klausfiendwhich parts of the hostname?06:27
weqI have a bunch of demo environments that we spin up all as their independent sites. So terraform + ubuntu + docker + letsencrypt + our applications = full demo site06:27
weqsrt-demo-11 => demo-11.domain.com06:28
klausfiendlike, do you have a generic pattern for hostnames06:28
weqdomain=$(cat /etc/hostname | sed -e 's/srt-\(.*\)/\\1.scanreach.com/')06:28
weqis what I ended up with.06:28
klausfiendis the domain name a known quantity ?06:28
weqthe terraform keeps track of that.06:28
klausfiendand is the "srt-" a guaranteed component of your demo instances?06:28
weqyupp part of the terraform.06:29
klausfiendwhy not just do something like this instead:06:30
klausfiendhostname=$(uname -n | sed -i 's/^srt-//')06:30
klausfienddomain=${hostname}.${mydomain}06:30
klausfiend?06:30
weqno need now as it works.06:30
weqbut yeah that would do the trick as well I recon.06:31
geirhathe proper solution is to not use echo06:31
weqthis is making a script on the host that gets used later as well so not really an option for this.06:35
geirhaecho isn't the only way to output a string06:50
weqcba to implement other methods now, but please do explain your preferred method of solving this when deploying vms in azure without having to resort to extra secrets.06:53
bob_x2how can i read motd message and exit from ssh in one command ?06:54
klausfiendadd an RC file that does that and calls `exit 0` at the end06:55
nr0q_radioor if it's just a one-off thing06:55
nr0q_radiossh user@server "exit"06:55
klausfiend^^ or that06:56
bob_x2nr0q_radio: that does not work06:56
bob_x2it just exists without motd message06:56
bob_x2*exits06:56
nr0q_radiolike you screen is clearing when you exit the SSH session?06:57
geirhaweq: heredoc or printf would give consistent behavior, unlike echo06:58
klausfiendso there's a mechanism to suppress printing the MOTD if you've already signed in once06:58
klausfiendnr0q_radio: are you sure that's not messing with your expectations? ^^06:58
bob_x2nr0q_radio: yes it just do not mess motd output with the command output. which is understandable , sometimes you need to run comannd on ssh host and get the output. cutting off motd each time would be a problem07:00
ossessh server cat /etc/motd07:01
osseor is that cheating07:01
bob_x2osse: my ubuntu does not have that file. but still prints the status of the host when im logging inh07:01
nr0q_radiomaybe ssh user@server "cat /etc/motd"07:02
bob_x2i do not have /etc/motd07:02
nr0q_radioahh, what is generating your motd?07:02
bob_x2nr0q_radio: yeah thats interesting07:04
bob_x2im new to ubuntu07:04
klausfiendMOTD is autogenerated typically07:04
dn___I have an issue with snap - I see `135  Done    today at 04:16 UTC      today at 04:16 UTC      Switch "lxd" snap to cohort "+"` several times in the snap changes log; this breaks lxd - and it happens again and again - anyone got an idea/hint what to google?07:04
osseon my system it seems to be some sort of PAM magic07:05
bob_x2checking systemwide bashrc and /etc/profile07:05
klausfiendon our standard systems, MOTD is created via files in /etc/update-motd.d07:06
bob_x2klausfiend: thanks. i even found the file that generated a section of motd that i need07:07
nr0q_radioon most of my systems it's a file in one of a few places, depending on if it's Debian, CentOS, RHEL8 or FreeBSD07:07
bob_x2klausfiend: and how it's handled ? does systemd start these files ?07:20
klausfiendbob_x2: that i honestly can't remember, but i think whatever the de facto init system is responsible for executing those scriptlets07:21
bob_x2ok will ask on linux07:21
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ossehah!  echo exit | ssh server07:35
mdeckerHello, how can I automate the setup of multiple PC workstations with Ubuntu Desktop 20.04?07:54
mdeckerCan I use kickstart?07:54
mdecker I have prepared ks.cfg file and re-imaged the ubuntu-desktop iso and I see in boot cmd, that ks= and ksdevice= options were used, but I still get the interactive graphical interface. Am I on the right track?07:55
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dn___What does `Switch "lxd" snap to cohort "+"` in the `snap changes` mean?08:03
dn___It seems to break my LXD cluster...08:03
swenssonAnyone here know how to brute force diffie-hellman-group14-sha1 ? Maybe somehow with hydra?08:10
lotuspsychjeswensson: while pentesting tools are on the ubuntu repos, we dont really support brute forcing here08:12
swenssonAny suggestion where I can find this information? Google seems to be no help towards bruteforcing the dh1408:14
lotuspsychjeswensson: checkout the hydra manpage?08:15
swenssonSeems to be unable find any related info08:16
klausfiendmdecker: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall-quickstart08:29
mdeckerdoes this also apply to ubuntu desktop or only for unbuntu-server?08:29
klausfiendboth08:29
klausfienddifferent options, etc. but yes08:30
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no_gravityFunny, when I type "ubuntu i" into google, the first suggestion is "ubuntu install docker". Is docker the most popular application on Ubuntu now?08:46
dtomatowell, ubuntu is run on quite a number of servers, and servers tend to run a bunch of containers these days...08:47
no_gravityYes, that might be the reason. Which would tell us that more people use Ubuntu on servers than on the desktop.08:48
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lotuspsychje!discuss | no_gravity08:50
ubottuno_gravity: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!08:50
no_gravityLooking at the results, it seems most people install docker not via the Ubuntu repos but add a docker repo to their sources.08:53
no_gravityWhat do you guys think of this?08:53
mdeckerklausfiend: where can I find the options possible for ubuntu desktop?08:57
geirhano_gravity: And installing docker isn't trivial on ubuntu, because the "obvious" attempt with   apt install docker   will install some window manager docker thing, so naturally people jump on google to find they need the docker.io package instead08:58
no_gravitygeirha: I see. But it seems what they find instead is lots of articles how to install docker-ce via download.docker.com08:59
dn___What does `Switch "lxd" snap to cohort "+"` in the `snap changes` mean? - I'm a bit desperate here, since it just kills the cluster over and over and I have no clue what this is09:01
geirha*shrug* I guess they want bleeding edge. I just use the docker.io package. It's one of the few packages with SRU-exception, so it actually gets upgraded once in a while09:01
no_gravitygeirha: sru-exception means it gets new features, not only bug fixes?09:02
geirhaYes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Docker.io_group09:02
no_gravityI see.09:03
no_gravityIs docker.io the package that only installs the runtime or will it bring unnecessary stuff on top of it?09:04
dn___is there any snap/ubuntu server irc channel?09:07
lotuspsychje!snap09:07
ubottuSnaps are containerised software packages similar to flatpaks or appimage. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io09:07
lotuspsychje!ubuntucore09:07
ubottuUbuntu Core is a version of Ubuntu with transactional updates completely built from snap packages (also see !snap). For discussion and support, please visit #snappy and see https://ubuntu.com/core09:07
lotuspsychjedn^09:07
geirhano_gravity: It installs bash-completion stuff for the docker command which I find unnecessary, but otherwise it more or less just installs dockerd and the docker command to control it with. Don't know what other unnecessary stuff you are referring to09:08
dn___thank youy09:08
no_gravitygeirha: I see. Thanks.09:09
no_gravitySince I don't know much about Ubuntu: Are Ubuntu released based on certain Debian releases? Like can you look up which Debian Ubuntu 20.04 is based on?09:13
lotuspsychje!debian | no_gravity09:20
ubottuno_gravity: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!09:20
KBarno_gravity you can look at the file09:20
KBar/etc/debian_version09:21
KBarfor your current version of Ubuntu09:21
no_gravityKBar: Cool, thanks!09:21
KBarnp09:21
no_gravityStrange, in the list view of Nautilus on Ubuntu, there seems to be no way to create a folder.09:24
no_gravityNew file I mean.09:24
no_gravityNeither is there one in the grid view.09:25
lotuspsychjeno_gravity: you can create new files in /home/templates09:25
no_gravitylotuspsychje: Fine, but I want to create one in /some/funky/folder/ :)09:26
lotuspsychjeno_gravity: alternate you can ctrl +l and do admin tasks with admin:/// in nautilus09:26
no_gravityOh, its a rights issue? Lets see ...09:27
no_gravityHmm.. I chowned the folder to me and hit F5 in nautilus. Still no "create file".09:28
no_gravityThe same when I run nautilus as root.09:29
lotuspsychjecreate in templates and drag into funky?09:29
no_gravityWell that is not how I would like to live my life :)09:29
KBarIIRC gnome got rid of "New Document/File" context menu item a year or two ago.09:31
KBarthey're putting all eggs in one basket, i.e. activities overview09:32
no_gravityKBar: How would that overview let the user create an empty file in /some/funky/folder/?09:32
KBarit wont. but you first choose an app09:32
KBarthen create files/documents from there09:32
KBarto create an empty file, open terminal, cd /whatever/path, then "> my_file_name"09:33
no_gravityKBar: That is very cumbersome when you already have a nautilus window open at /some/funky/folder/ and want to create a file.09:34
lotuspsychjelife is not that hard https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/04/ubuntu-1804-add-new-document-nautilus.html09:34
KBarthen09:34
KBarjust open the folder in terminal09:34
KBarright-click, select terminal09:34
KBar"open in terminal"09:34
KBarterminal will open with working directory set to whatever you were browsing in Nautilus09:35
no_gravityThats one hell of a strange workflow.09:36
KBari know, but thats gnome for you09:36
KBar"staying out of the user's way" or whatever is their motto09:37
no_gravity:)09:40
KBarstrange. the action is present in the source code09:45
no_gravityKBar: Link?09:45
KBarbut disabled by default09:45
KBarsure. can i pm?09:46
no_gravityKBar: You cannot post the link here?09:47
no_gravityBut sure, you can pm.09:47
no_gravityKBar: Thanks09:48
no_gravityKBar: Which line?09:48
no_gravityOh, I see09:48
no_gravityOh! I think it might be a config option.09:51
no_gravityYeah. If you put an empty file in ~/Templates/ the option to create files in any place is back!09:52
no_gravityHurray!09:53
no_gravityGuess office people use this to have templates like "New Offer", "New Invoice" etc.09:54
ograwell, the proper command would be "touch $(xdg-user-dir TEMPLATES)/New.txt"09:55
ograthe templates dir can be localized ...09:55
KBarthat will create a plain text file09:56
ograxdg-user-dir TEMPLATES will return the correct path09:56
jasonhello09:59
KBarhello and welcome. how can we help you?09:59
no_gravityjason: We have a lot to offer! Do you want to create an empy file?10:00
jasonwhere can i download NFS-payback10:00
KBarThis channel is for Ubuntu support, jason.10:01
KBarIf that's a video game, try looking it up on Steam.10:01
ograjason, not NFS, but there is https://snapcraft.io/liveforspeed10:03
no_gravityjason: How about an empty file instead? You can open it in a texteditor let your creativity roam freely.10:06
flafHi @all. Here is someone who knows “subiquity” (new installer for Ubuntu server) and can tell me if it's possible to make a full automatic and *minimal* install of Ubuntu server, especially without snapd (in clear just with openssh-server installed)? Thx for your help.10:29
ograflaf, perhaps something to ask in #ubuntu-server ... there is https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall-quickstart10:31
ograthere are also discussions around this on https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/please-test-autoinstalls-for-20-04/1525010:32
flafogra: ok, good idea. I didn't know the chan #ubuntu-server. Let's go. Thx.10:32
Lumpio-But snap is the future10:32
Lumpio-Says Canonical10:32
flaf:)10:32
ograLumpio-, link to the quote ?10:32
Lumpio-It's heavily implied by their actions10:32
ograit is just another package format ...10:33
Lumpio-...it's a pretty big step away from just installing files onto your computer like .deb, .rpm, pacman, whatever10:34
flafLumpio-: maybe... but the principle to me is not to necessarily remove snapd (maybe I will use it), the principle is to make fully automatic and _*minimal*_ installation of Ubuntu servers. ;)10:34
ograLumpio-, you mean snaps do not install files ?10:34
KBarIf you don't like, don't use it. Since Ubuntu is Debian-based, .deb packages will keep working.10:36
Lumpio-If you call mounting a squashfs "installing" the package files on your computer, sure10:36
Lumpio-And also sandboxing everything in some bizarre way that keeps breaking in weird and wonderful ways10:36
ograwell, this is how squashfs files work ...10:36
Lumpio-Sure10:36
Lumpio-It's a bit different from just installing files onto my filesystem like a normal package manager and starting a process10:37
Lumpio-KBar: That's the best response to any criticism :+1:10:37
ograyes, it saves space and is more secure (completely readonal, so a hacker can not tinkler with it)10:37
ogra*readonly10:37
KBarI don't think this channel is for criticism and sarcastic remarks, sir.10:38
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Lumpio-No criticism allowed sounds pretty draconian10:41
ograwell, this is a support channel ...10:41
ograyou can come to #ubuntu-discuss to discuss other matters10:41
KBar+110:41
ograor #ubuntu-offtopic for even more offtopic thigs 🙂10:41
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KBaror discourse10:41
ograyeah, if you like to discuss very slow 🙂10:42
KBarThere are multiple channels for you to post your criticism and this is not one of them.10:43
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pr100I'm trying to get a bit more space under /usr; I've used a livecd to copy to a new partition and then changed /etc/fstab; but I now get "[UNSUPP] Starting of Arbitrary Executable File Formats File System Automount Point not supported." at boot time. Is there a way to progress?11:15
KBarPrograms in /bin and /sbin are actually sym-links to /usr/bin and /usr/sbin, respectively. It looks like your system cannot execute its programs.11:19
KBarYou probably have to include the new path in $PATH11:21
KBarIf you can, that is.11:29
pr100so something required to mount /usr is actually on /usr, because the mounting needs things under /bin or /sbin that are actually symlinks to things under /usr. If that's so then surely messing with PATH won' help?11:29
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pr100most of the disk use under /usr is actually in /usr/lib; I guess I could try just moving that to a new partition instead, maybe that'll mount without problems11:41
BluesKajHi all11:47
topoiHey folks. Where do I see the $DISPLAY variable of some user?12:21
topoiAhh, of course: Ubuntu is using Wayland! :)12:24
ogratopoi, only in the latest release though12:24
topoiIs there something I need to know for transition regarding the usual VNC foo?12:27
topoi(It might be sort of offtopic, but I'll give it a try :)12:28
ograyes, VNC wont work with wayland currently12:28
topoiOhh!12:28
topoiThat's news for me.12:28
ogradue to waylands security model ...12:28
ograwindows can not spy on other windows12:28
ograunlike in Xorg12:29
topoiWell, I never used VNC without ssh forwarding.. : /12:29
ograi think there is some RDP support though12:29
topoiIs it easy to transition from wayland back to xorg?12:29
ograhttps://wayland.freedesktop.org/faq.html12:30
ograthere are some comments on VNC/RDP12:30
ograso there is a builtin "remote desktop" server in gnome itself: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Mutter/RemoteDesktop12:31
ograto switch back to Xorg you just need to pick it at the login manager12:32
ografrom the little gear after you selected the user12:32
topoiAhh, I see. Thank you, very helpful.12:32
topoiogra: Strange. I already had gnome-remote-desktop installed and the files are there but the system including systemd seems to know nothing about it. :S12:42
ogratopoi, i think there is a setting under "sharing" in the settings app12:44
topoiogra: I'm headless. :)12:46
ograwell, perhaps there is a dconf/gsettings option to enable it, not sure12:47
topoiI don't understand why there is /usr/lib/systemd/user/gnome-remote-desktop.service but "systemctl status gnome-remote-desktop.service" says it could not be found.12:51
topoisystemctl daemon-reload doesn't help either.12:51
ogratopoi, because it is a part of the user session12:52
ograsystemctl status --user gnome-remote-desktop.service12:52
topoiOhh, I did not even know that existed. My apologies.12:55
ograi fear that wont help with headless though ... it needs a graphical session per-user to be shared12:56
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topoiThat's good to know! :D12:57
topoiogra: Ohh wait, there is a graphical user session, but I want to connect remote. That ain't pure headlessness, I guess?13:01
ogratopoi, well, can you access that session locally temporary ? then you could just switch on the RDP/VNC server13:02
topoiogra: I have no physical access at the moment. It's not possible to start that remotely with root?13:18
ograno idea13:18
topoiIt was so easy with xorg. : )13:20
ograback in the days everything was better !13:20
* ogra shakes his cane13:21
jasonwhat continent you guys at13:28
leftyfb!ot | jason13:29
ubottujason: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:29
topoiI didn't say, _everything_ was better.. it's sometimes just hard to adopt that fast. On debian btw. xorg seems still to be the default even in bullseye.13:37
famubuWhile on evil mode, going to org-agenda schedule in an `*Org Agenda*` buffer shows the current state as 'Emacs State' (<E>) as the evil state and the usual evil key bindings dont' work there. Is there a way to evil bindings there as well? What is the emacs state?13:44
leftyfbfamubu: you probably want #emacs13:45
leftyfbfamubu: or explain what "evil mode" and "org-agenda" are13:45
famubuOops! Sorry.13:46
famubuI meant emacs channel.13:46
devioshow do i make it so my wlp1s0 always uses specific nameservers, and the settings survive reboot?  I don't want dhcp to set my nameservers.13:47
leftyfbdevios: change it in network manager13:47
leftyfbdevios: what version of ubuntu?13:48
beuysHello! In Mint, when I press ctrl+alt+right-arrow, that moves the current window to the next workspace. Is there a key combo like this in Ubuntu?13:48
leftyfb!mint | beuys13:48
ubottubeuys: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)13:48
deviosleftyfb, 20.0413:49
leftyfboh, sorry13:49
leftyfbbeuys: you can go to the keyboard settings in order to see and change the different hotkeys in ubuntu13:49
beuysleftyfb: Ok, let me rephrase the question without mentioning Mint ...13:49
beuysIs there a key combo in Ubunut that moves the current window to the next workspace?13:50
leftyfbyes13:50
leftyfbbeuys: you can go to the keyboard settings in order to see and change the different keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu13:50
beuysI found it!13:51
beuysShift+Window-Key+Page-Down13:51
deviosleftyfb, thanks.  i see how to manually set the nameservers for a specific wifi network, but how do i make it so i use specific nameservers regardless of wifi network, and make that setting survive reboots.13:53
leftyfbdevios: you don't13:54
beuysdevios: Have a look in /etc/resolv.conf13:55
leftyfbbeuys: that file will always get overwritten13:55
ograany answer that includes /etc/resolv.conf is nowadays in 99% of the cases the wrong answer to resolution issues13:56
leftyfbdevios: I do not think there is a way to always use the same nameserver across any and all networks, while also ignoring whatever nameserver gets assigned via DHCP13:57
beuysleftyfb: Take a look at the comment in /etc/resolv.conf. It says replacing it with a static file gives you control over it.13:57
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leftyfbbeuys: see ogra's comment13:58
leftyfbdevios: why do you think you need this ability?13:59
beuysHe is a free man. He wants to chose which nameserver his computer uses.14:03
leftyfbbeuys: and if they join a network that doesn't allow access to his manually configured nameserver?14:05
leftyfbsome hotspots aren't going to function at all due to forcing your own nameserver, you won't even be able to get to the portal page14:06
beuysHe will do what a man has to do. Decide on his own how to deal with it.14:06
leftyfbbeuys: ok, you're not helping.14:06
jmiahjonesdevios: A somewhat fragile way involves adding the nameserver config to either head or tail in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/. This appends the config to the generated /etc/resolv.conf. That way you don't have to control the resolv.conf file completely.14:07
beuysIt is up to our man devios to decide what helps him.14:07
jmiahjonesIt does kick the can down the road, though. You may end up overriding systemd-resolved and have future issues. I'm not sure how to tell systemd-resolved nameserver priority.14:07
leftyfbjmiahjones: that is going to cause problems. Then they will have multiple nameservers which are being hit randomly across queries, never knowing which one is being used14:07
leftyfbjmiahjones: there is no way to set priority in resolved14:08
jmiahjonesleftyfb: Doesn't it default to the first nameserver in resolv.conf? I can attest that I've had issues setting up resolvectl to listen for a specific tld because I hard-coded nameservers in head. Across many queries I never got the desired response (hence why I say this is fragile)14:10
leftyfbjmiahjones: negative14:10
htalloushHello, I'm unable to add 1440p using xrandr via newmode, can you help me out?14:31
htalloushhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F2jxhgH4zr/14:33
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ograhtalloush, drop "Modeline" from that line and see if it helps14:34
ograxrandr --newmode "2560x1440_144.00"  808.75 ...14:35
KBaralso flags have to be capitalized I think14:36
KBare.g. +HSync14:36
KBarin your case, try -HSync +VSync14:37
beuyshtalloush: These two lines work for me:14:37
beuysxrandr --newmode "2560x1440_55.00"  283.77  2560 2736 3016 3472  1440 1441 1444 1486  -HSync +Vsync14:37
beuysxrandr --addmode HDMI-1 2560x1440_55.0014:37
beuyshtalloush: Which monitor is it?14:38
beuysOn a related not, does anybody know where to put these lines to make them permanent?14:38
htalloushogra: it accepts now, but the mode itself doesn't work14:39
htalloushbeuys It's the old Odyssey G714:40
beuyshtalloush: Looks like a cool piece of hardware!14:40
htalloushThanks, Ubuntu is a nice piece of software too! hyped to make it work14:41
electrostrongbeuys: I'd personally create a new script and put it in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/14:41
electrostrongbeuys: example in the second answer here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/637911/how-to-run-xrandr-commands-at-startup-in-ubuntu14:41
beuyselectrostrong: Interesting. Wow, there is a whole bunch of scripts in there.14:42
beuyselectrostrong: I will try it like this: ln -s /my/files/set_resolution.sh /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50-my-resolution14:44
beuysDo I need to reboot to test it?14:44
electrostrongI believe you just need to restart the session manager - sudo systemctl restart display-manager14:46
beuyselectrostrong: Will that kill my running applications?14:46
electrostrongit will14:46
electrostrong(if they are open in x)14:46
beuysI see. I will do a normal reboot later.14:47
electrostrongso make sure you save first if you need to do that14:47
beuysI got some long running processes running which I don't want to interrupt.14:47
TortillaSandwichanyone using Yubikey auth on desktop to log in got a sec?14:49
FreeBDSMHi. I have a problem: `apt list --installed | grep paramiko` says I have package `python-paramiko 2.0.0-1ubuntu1.2`, however `pip3 list` doesn't list 'paramiko'.14:50
FreeBDSMis that an error? should I somehow tell apt to check package contents and fix missing files or something? how to do that?14:50
leftyfbFreeBDSM: apt != pip14:50
beuysTortillaSandwich: I don't know much about yubikey, but does using it mean that if someone hits you with a $5 wrench and takes your laptop and key they are in?14:50
FreeBDSMleftyfb: correct, but shouldn't pip list modules installed from OS packages via apt?14:50
leftyfbno14:51
electrostrongnope14:51
leftyfbFreeBDSM: pip is a package manager, just like apt14:51
TortillaSandwichbeuys: no14:51
FreeBDSMleftyfb: I hoped they have some integration like the one in CentOS14:51
tuskkk____Hello! Need some help, I have a docker container with ubuntu 16. Due to the latest expiration of some root certs from let's encrypt, I would like to update the certs in the image (https://letsencrypt.org/docs/dst-root-ca-x3-expiration-september-2021/), how do I go on about doing that?14:51
leftyfb!eol | tuskkk____14:52
ubottutuskkk____: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:52
tuskkk____Do I need to update openssl, or are there any other commands I can follow?14:52
leftyfbtuskkk____: Ubuntu 16.04 and 16.01 are both end of life and unsupported14:52
leftyfbsorry, 16.04 and 16.1014:52
beuysTortillaSandwich: What stops them?14:52
tuskkk____Yes, I know its end of life, and we have a plan now to remove it, but for now the broken CI needs to be up, sorry14:52
TortillaSandwichbeuys: you still need a password14:53
TortillaSandwichit's 2f. Something you have, something you know14:53
tuskkk____because I tried building the same image with latest ubuntu, and its more work than I thought14:53
ogratuskkk____, https://ubuntu.com/advantage ...14:54
beuysTortillaSandwich: Nice14:54
tuskkk____ogra: what is this?14:55
ogratuskkk____, ESM (support extension for 16.04)14:55
ograyou can buy another 5 years that way14:55
tuskkk____I don't see how that would help me here in this case14:56
beuysTortillaSandwich: And why do you use the 2f approach? So nobody can get your pw by looking over your shoulder?14:56
tuskkk____Its a pre build docker image I am working with, I have no room for an upgrade14:56
TortillaSandwichbeuys: it's just logical to always have mfa wherever you can14:56
leftyfbtuskkk____: it's so you can purchase support for your end of life OS14:56
beuysTortillaSandwich: Well there must be a specific attack vector it prevents.14:56
tuskkk____I understand that leftyfb, and I don't think that will help here14:56
ogratuskkk____, yell, the new ca-certificates package landed in the ESM archives ...14:57
electrostrongtuskkk____: you could check out this: https://aws.amazon.com/premiumsupport/knowledge-center/ec2-expired-certificate/14:57
ogra*well14:57
ogratuskkk____, with ubuntu advantage you get access to these packages ... but if you cant update your docker containers at all thats indeed not a solution14:57
TortillaSandwichbeuys: secures against password being the only vulnerability. Even if someone has a right password, they can't move forward without the physical key14:58
beuysTortillaSandwich: But how would someone get the PW from your head?14:58
TortillaSandwichpasswords can always be brute forced14:58
TortillaSandwichyour argument could be used against any MFA14:58
ograor spied over your shoulder 🙂14:58
beuysTortillaSandwich: That is not true.14:58
TortillaSandwich"Why use a RSA key for ssh? no one knows whats in your head"14:59
TortillaSandwichyes, it is true that any password can be brute forced14:59
TortillaSandwichit's a question of time + chance14:59
leftyfbbeuys: TortillaSandwich feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic. This is no longer an Ubuntu support issue14:59
TortillaSandwichleftyfb: well, I am still having an issue with Ubuntu ignoring yubikeys after reboot14:59
beuysTortillaSandwich: Brute force 12-word wallet passwords and you are a billionaire :)15:00
tuskkk____electrostrong: it says this as well, `Ubuntu versions less than 16.04 are end of life. Manual intervention might be possible, but isn't supported.` Can someone here help me try changing it manually to see if it works?15:00
gentwoHi, I am trying to insert text at line number 1 in a file using sed, somereason the output file encoding has been changed. made sure it's not related to locale . current locele LANG=en_US.UTF-8 ( VM-ubuntu)15:00
leftyfbTortillaSandwich: can you explain your issue in detail?15:00
tuskkk____because I have no clue how and where these certs are located/work etc15:00
beuystuskkk____: What stopped working inside of your image?15:01
tuskkk____some go dependency, called https://gopkg.in/yaml.v215:01
tuskkk____beuys: ^15:01
leftyfbtuskkk____: try #linux or purchase extended support15:01
tuskkk____ok, thanks15:01
beuystuskkk____: What is the error message?15:01
TortillaSandwichleftyfb: sure. basically after configuring a Yubikey, as per their own documentation, everyhing works so long as you're logged in for the first time after install. Once you reboot and attempt to log in utilizing pam_2f.so as an @common-auth flag, the yubikey doesn't seem to respond15:01
tuskkk____beuys: `fatal: unable to access 'https://gopkg.in/yaml.v2/': server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none`15:02
electrostrongtuskkk____: I don't have any further details sorry - no matter what, make a backup before you experiment!15:02
TortillaSandwichthe only fix is to drop to recovery, get to root, and remove the pam_u2f.so lines from /etc/pam.d/login && gdm-password15:02
tuskkk____electrostrong: ha! yeah!15:02
TortillaSandwichthe behavior is uniform across TTY or GDM login windows. The yubikey is working because if you long-press the metal plate it'll drop your hash15:03
TortillaSandwichso it's simply as if the ubuntu install is ignoring pam_u2f.so, but still hung on the requirement15:03
beuystuskkk____: I see. I don't know. Guess you have to google your way to success.15:04
leftyfbTortillaSandwich: what version of ubuntu?15:04
TortillaSandwichleftyfb: 21.0415:04
TortillaSandwichits frustrating because as long as you remain on the machine after configuration,it's fine. TTY auth works, GDM auth works. Rebook, kaput15:05
TortillaSandwichreboot*15:05
leftyfbTortillaSandwich: looks like the software for the yubikey as well as the pam_2f.so are created and provided entirely by yubikey. Your best bet is to contact them for support15:06
ograTortillaSandwich, where is that tutorial you followed btw ?15:07
leftyfbTortillaSandwich: their instructions might not be updated for your specific version of ubuntu and might need to be modified slightly15:07
ograright15:07
TortillaSandwichogra:https://support.yubico.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016649099-Ubuntu-Linux-Login-Guide-U2F15:08
leftyfb /etc/pam.d/sudo doesn't even exist by default in ubuntu. I think their documentation isn't up to date/accurate15:09
TortillaSandwichit does15:09
ograyeah15:09
TortillaSandwichat least, on my install it was already there. I didn't create the file15:10
leftyfboh, my bad it does15:10
ogracomes from the sudo package15:10
TortillaSandwichthe entire thing works until reboot, tahts the weird part15:10
ograit has a troubleshooting topic at the bottom ... did you try that ?15:10
TortillaSandwichyeah but nothing gets written after reboot15:11
TortillaSandwichit's like pam_u2f just... stops existing on reboot until you log in first15:11
TortillaSandwichif I set up again and run the debug rn, it'll produce logs. everything looks good in those logs, but the second you reboot. it all breaks15:12
ograhttps://support.yubico.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018695819-Ubuntu-Linux-20-Login-Guide-Challenge-Response15:12
ogralooks like there is a special guide for 20.04+15:12
TortillaSandwichhmm.. interesting, let me look15:12
leftyfbyup, there's additional steps15:13
leftyfbwell, config lines anyway15:13
TortillaSandwichorigintopleft: where did you find this because i felt i scoured the main guide pretty close15:16
TortillaSandwichand no fault of anyone here obviously but this additional documentation is written super poorly lol15:17
leftyfbTortillaSandwich: if I type "yubikey ubuntu 21.04" into google, it's the 3rd result15:17
dablitzgood morning channel. I was wondering if there is a way I can create a recovery partition something like what winblows has. I can create a image of my current setup using something like clonezilla15:25
lotuspsychje!borg | dablitz maybe this, see also !backup15:26
ubottudablitz maybe this, see also !backup: borg is a fast backup tool with incremental backups: https://www.borgbackup.org/ (Ubuntu packages: borgbackup, borgbackup-doc, and borgmatic)15:26
TortillaSandwichogra: alright, lets see if this works... sudo worked, so rebooting15:27
jmiahjonesdablitz: Also look into lvm/btrfs/zfs snapshots.15:28
leftyfbdablitz: I created an ansible playbook to rebuild a fresh install back to the way I like it. Dumping a snapshot only applies in some use cases, not for upgrading releases or fixing a problem which might exist in a snapshot15:30
jmiahjonesleftyfb: I love the idea of ansible, but it's quite a paradigm to learn for system recovery.15:32
leftyfbjmiahjones: and well worth it. Once you get started and get some of the tricks figured out, it gets kind of addicting on how to accomplish the next task15:33
leftyfbI have 15k lines of code for mine15:34
leftyfbwell, that includes some custom config files that get written15:34
TortillaSandwichaha!15:36
dablitzleftyfb, ok so here is my use case. I have converted my wife, mother-in-law, father, and brother over to ubuntu. I have been inadated lately with "please help me I messed something up!" phonecalls. What I am hoping to do is redo each of their computers, create a recovery image, and when they mess something up have them restore it back, kind of like a factory reset15:36
TortillaSandwichI think I spotted the issue.15:36
TortillaSandwichmy home folder is encrypted and doesn't decrypt until login, and thats where yubico is storing the keys15:36
TortillaSandwichlet me look at this15:36
hoppityIs there a way to show a title on top of the ubuntu terminal with some custom text? Such as:  "REMOTE SERVER"15:36
hoppityI find myself typing stuff on the wrong terminal constantly when I have several open15:37
leftyfbTortillaSandwich: you could stick the yubico stuff outside of the encryption15:37
jmiahjonesleftyfb: One of these days I'll get around to it. Like I said, I love the idea of it. Right now I'm fighting with cloud-init in my LXD containers to get them configured the way I want.15:37
TortillaSandwichleftyfb: that's what im trying rn15:37
leftyfbjmiahjones: I have several profiles to rebuild lxd containers as well, All without the use of cloud-init, in fact I remove it at the beginning15:38
leftyfbdablitz: that sounds good on paper, not so much for the end user who maybe loses files and customizations (wallpaper at the very least)15:39
leftyfbjmiahjones: hell, I've got a profile to spin up a full functional "The Spaghetti Detective" lxd container which uses all docker in the lxd container15:40
lotuspsychjedablitz: what kind of things are they able to mess up exactly?15:40
leftyfbdablitz: you might spend more time re-imaging and then overlaying all the files, apps and customizations then you would if you either fixed the problems they run into or rebuild from scratch using something like ansible or salt15:42
jmiahjonesdablitz: Automated backups are key, like lotuspsychje suggested. Lvm/btrsf/zfs snapshots are still helpful for freezing the system state at the time of the backup.15:42
TortillaSandwichalright, rebooting again... brb15:42
ioriahoppity,  PS1=$PS1"\[\e]0;REMOTE SERVER\a\]"15:43
jmiahjonesleftyfb: mouth-watering15:43
TortillaSandwichlol, worked15:44
TortillaSandwichwell, there we go. ogra thanks for the other link, though., that was clearly a missing step and once that was added the debugging data came in and made it evident that the file couldn't be found15:45
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hoppityioria: what is PS?15:45
hoppityioria: thank you, I found the onlien reference for PS1 it's awesome15:46
ograTortillaSandwich, awesome !15:47
dablitzleftyfb, oh I hear you on the loss of files. One of the reasons I have each system openvpn (on boot) to my house and thier /home folder is actually on my server. As for what is messed up and how they mess things up I am still trying to figure out. It took quiet some time to link their /home folders over to my server but at least they loose nothing. as for re-imaging loose of time. I leave that on them.15:49
ioriahoppity, ok (literally  ps1 = Prompt String One")15:49
hoppityioria: thank you very much15:49
iorianp15:49
agvantiboHello. I'm having a trouble with the default Ubuntu icon theme (Yaru) - the back to windowed mode icon is not present. I've located the issue by switching themes via gnome-tweaks (it worked and the icon was replaced), but I really like Yaru and simply switching the theme wouldn't be a solution for me. A google search of the issue yields no sensible results. Here are pictures of what happens:15:56
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agvantibo screenshot of media player that utilizes the icon - no icon with Yaru theme: https://i.imgur.com/w47Feqp.png15:57
agvantibo screenshot of the same player in the same condition but with the Adwaita icon theme https://i.imgur.com/V971bAl.png15:58
agvantiboHere is the system version and other stuff. My system is 100% up to date. https://i.imgur.com/rPPDUCu.png16:00
agvantiboAnyone!?16:03
ioriaagvantibo, you're using adwaita  .. not yaru16:05
agvantiboioria, I've temporarily switched to adwaita to demonstrate the icon is present there16:09
agvantiboHere, look: https://i.imgur.com/Q0H3MT0.png16:10
agvantiboI've switched back to yaru.16:10
nunyaIs there a way to preserve settings when switching desktop environments. Let's say I have Gnome and Wayland installed. I have a laptop with an external monitor. I have the external display as only monitor. When I switch from Gnome to Wayland and go back to Gnome my monitors are mirrored instead of just one monitor. Any way to preserve monitor settings in each environment?16:11
nunyaI have Googled and didn't find any results.16:12
agvantibonunya, Wayland and Gnome relate like an engine and a car. You don't switch from a car to an engine and vice versa. What's the other DE you are using? Or are you using Gnome with both X and Wayland? How do you switch between the two options?16:15
agvantiboAnd may I ask why do you even bother yourself switching to and fro? Are you a developer that tests apps to work with different configurations?16:17
nunyaagvantibo: I switch environments via logout>login via lightdm>drop menu net to password field.16:18
nunyaagvantibo: Seeing if games play better iun different environments.16:19
agvantiboShould be no perceivable difference really.16:21
agvantiboWhen it comes to fullscreen games, the windowing system doesn't really do much.16:22
nunya agvantibo: I have one that lags and freezes and I'm trying to find a way short of installing proprietary graphics drivers or replacing HD with SSD.16:23
agvantiboUnfortunately, I have to go ImmediatelY, so I could not help you rn.16:23
tomreynnunya: how is this related to HDD (?) vs SSD?16:24
tomreynwhat you're saying about graphics drivers sounds like you may have an nvidia GPU? running with nouveau?16:25
nunyatomreyn: Swap memory using HD. SSD is faster.16:26
tomreynso this system is short of memory?16:26
agvantiboYes, windowing sys' and swapping don't co-relate.16:26
nunyatomreyn: when I check System Info it says I have Intel Graphics Card16:27
agvantiboThat means you DEFINITELY aren't getting any advantage using wayland or X16:27
agvantiboIMHO Wayland is a bit buggier, and X is a bit bulkier.16:28
nunyaagvantibo: Any way to keep from having freezes in game play with Ubuntu and Cinnamon other than changing graphics card or drivers?16:29
tomreynnunya: i'd just focus on making things work well on either Xorg ("Gnome") if you're on Ubuntu < 21.04, or Wayland ("Gnome on Wayland") if you're on Ubuntu >= 21.0416:29
tomreynOh, Cinnamon? So not default Ubuntu. You'll probably want to stick to Xorg with either Ubuntu release for now, then.16:30
nunyatomreyn:Ok. The game taht is the problem doesn't work well in any environment. Any suggestions?16:31
tomreynreview log files, identify related error messages, search the web for those error messages (recent bug reports, similar Ubuntu versions, Kernel versions) to determine the root cause and possible workarounds.16:32
tomreynthat's the general approach to solving problems16:33
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CTtechie_ugggg  ...freakin noob moce16:34
tomreynnunya: if anything but this very game works well graphics-wise, then see if you can get logs from this very game first of all, and (maybe) report it to the developers.16:35
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leftyfbCTtechie: please /part until you are done setting up and testing your client16:40
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CTtechieleftyfb...I'm done sorry about that.16:40
CTtechieMoving over from Freenode16:41
AryaKHi, I cannot install any ppas on my ubuntu server 20.04.3  LTS LXC container.16:42
leftyfbAryaK: got some error messages you can pastebin?16:42
tomreynwhat's the command you're running? is there an error message?16:42
AryaKone sec16:43
AryaKuploading to pastebin16:43
AryaKhttps://pastebin.com/ip3h9E2N16:44
AryaKthis is the log16:44
AryaKI try to enable quassel ppa16:44
AryaKthis is the same thing that happens for all ppas.16:44
tomreynaccording to this output, no16:44
leftyfbAryaK: that PPA does not support 20.0416:45
leftyfbAryaK: show another error if you've got one16:45
tomreynthe "any series" drop-down on https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/quassel lists the Ubuntu releases supported by this PPA16:46
tomreynor their codenames rather than actual version numbers. Ubuntu 20.04 LTS "focal" is not listed.16:46
AryaKhttps://pastebin.com/ZALjJt2u same thing happens with alacritty ppa16:47
tomreynno, this just repeats the error message since the quassel PPA is still configured and still broken16:48
leftyfbAryaK: there i no error message for the aslatter PPA16:48
AryaKoh ok16:48
leftyfbAryaK: remove the quassel PPA16:48
AryaKI havent used ubuntu in a long time. Apt skills are pretty rusty nowadays lol16:48
AryaKIt worked16:50
AryaKwhere do i check a ppa's compatibility with ubuntu 20.0416:50
tomreynsee above, i explained16:51
leftyfbAryaK: on the PPA launchpad page as tomreyn pointed out to you above16:51
AryaKig i will get the beta version that supports 20.0416:54
ice9guys please I need the md5 checksum of the 5.11.0-37-generic kernel and initrd please asap17:07
lotuspsychjeice9: what are you trying to do?17:15
ice9lotuspsychje, just need to know that info to compare something, can you help please?17:15
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geniiThere will not be a set MD5 sum for initrd since it's created by update-grub locally after the kernel is installed17:17
ice9yeah but at least the kernel17:18
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deviosjmiahjones, beuys, leftyfb, ogra: thx17:46
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khushanthelp19:03
khushantcan ubuntu run in 2gb ram19:04
khushanthello19:05
toddckhushant: yes but not recommeded I have done on a small server not with a desktop19:07
khushantis there any linux distro for 2gb ram19:08
khushantand can run ms teams19:08
khushantfor kids online class19:08
Kelkhushant: there are variants for low-memory machines. LinuxLite might be a reasonable choice, based on Ubuntu. According to itsfoss.com Lite requires as little as 1gb ram.19:09
toddcnot many distros are tested with ms teams that I know of but chrome and puppy linux would be my top distros to check for 2 GB19:09
KelYour questions may be more well suited to #linux though as we tend to be specific to Ubuntu's core offerings here.19:10
KelTeams also runs really well in Firefox or Chrome, so there's that.19:10
toddckhushant: while it may be possible 2gb will make it very limited usability19:11
khushantlinux lite will be fine ?19:12
Kelkhushant: it may be - claims it doesn't need very high specs.19:13
Kelhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Lite#Minimum_Recommended_Specifications%5B8%5D19:13
jmiahjoneskhushant: Similar specs for Xubuntu: https://xubuntu.org/requirements/. Seems they're over on #xubuntu19:20
finch2021hi everybody19:23
goddarddoes ubuntu have any app that can control the brightness on OLEDs?20:12
goddardhttps://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1625/soft-brightness/20:13
goddardthis is the only thing that works20:13
goddardthank goodness this extensions exists20:15
goddardbecause i was going blind looking at my display20:16
goddardsome OLED screens are so bright20:16
tomreynwhat does xrandr list this screen as?20:16
tomreyni mean which connector does it say it's connected to?20:17
eruditehermithey, I have a question regarding multi monitor support. When I plug in an extra monitor and try to rearrange the monitor and/or change the DPI settings to 200% I get a popup that asks whether I want to keep or revert the changes. If I keep the changes, they never stick. If I hit revert, sometimes it keeps the changes. It's really weird. Any ideas?20:18
tomreynyour ubuntu release, graphical desktop / window manager, active graphics driver are?20:20
eruditehermitUbuntu 21.04, intel GPU, gnome shell.20:21
tomreynso that's gnome on wayland, i assume?20:21
eruditehermitUsing wayland yes20:21
tomreynhmm, i don't know about this one. but have you looked for bug reports on this, yet?20:22
eruditehermittomreyn, yeah, I'm not able to find the right sequence of words to google to find a solution20:23
eruditehermitI've tried things like: ubuntu 21.04 multi monitor settings not saving. First result talks about nvidia20:24
tomreyndo you have configuration files in your $HOME which your user can't update?   find $HOME \( \! -uid $(id -u) \) -o \( \! -gid $(id -g) \)20:25
eruditehermitprints out a bunch of stuff in Trash folder20:27
tomreynmaybe there's something related at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon20:27
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eruditehermit~/.cache/dconf and ~/.gvfs20:29
eruditehermitis .gvfs significant20:29
tomreynalso try this: run   journalctl -f    in a terminal window, keep it running; try to apply the change again; hit ctrl-c on the terminal window and review what was printed there the moment you tried to apply the change20:29
tomreynboth ~/.cache/dconf and ~/.gvfs might be relevant. the former you can safely delete, because it's just a cached file20:30
eruditehermittomreyn, https://pastebin.pl/view/2c09a36520:32
eruditehermitcan I remove .gvfs and logout/login and it'll recreate it?20:32
tomreynhmm i got pastebin.pl blocked here since it is supposedly a malware / phishing domain20:34
sarnoldprobably no worse than any other pastebin site20:34
tomreynprobably20:34
Kelthe debian pastebin is pretty nice - if basic as heck.20:34
Kelhttp://paste.debian.net - just for another alternative.20:35
alkisg.gvfs was a holding point for mounts; if it's just a directory and you can remove it with `rmdir .gvfs`, then yes, but don't `rm -rf` it20:35
alkisg(it since moved to /run/user/1010/gvfs)20:36
eruditehermithttp://paste.debian.net/1214535/20:36
eruditehermithmm, so sorry, I have a meeting for 30mins, will be back to check on suggestions then. I appreciate you all helping me20:37
tomreyni don't see anything on the log that looks directly related. *maybe* the "[drm]" lines are.20:40
tomreyneruditehermit: see whether this is still broken when you disable the ding@rasters extension and logout and login again.20:45
tomreynoh "ding" is probably short for "desktop-icons-ng" (debian package gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons-ng).20:49
arooni_team_bhas anyone noticed on 20.04 that the latest version of brave c r a w l s when you're typing on the url bar quickly?20:54
Kelarooni_team_b: that happens to me in Vivaldi sometimes. Does the same happen in Chrome-actual and/or Firefox (just to test in something non-chromium)?20:57
onion3000hey y'all got a question about drivers/possibly kernel, is this the right place for that?21:14
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eruditehermittomreyn, going to logout and login again. Just disabled the extension22:11
eruditehermittomreyn, same behaviour. I uninstalled the desktop-icons extension22:20
eruditehermitit's funny because if I hit revert, it sometimes saves the settings for a little while22:20
eruditehermituntil I launch some application like slack22:21
merpnderpHow do I open up port 22 and sushi?22:29
merpnderpsshd22:29
merpnderpI searched for a firewall app and nothing showed up22:29
eruditehermit_merpnderp, have you tried on your router?22:29
merpnderperuditehermit_: I'm inside the network22:30
danielssanmerpnderp: ufw should be installed by default22:30
merpnderp /etc/ssh_config.d is empty. Does Ubuntu not come with sshd by default?22:30
eruditehermit_merpnderp, you have to install sshd22:31
merpnderpdanielssan: does it have a UI?22:31
merpnderperuditehermit_: okay, thakns22:31
eruditehermit_merpnderp, openssh-server22:31
danielssanmerpnderp: you can install gufw22:31
merpnderpI do that with apt, right?22:31
danielssanyes22:31
eruditehermit_merpnderp, sudo apt install openssh-server22:32
merpnderpthanks again. Been a really long time since I've ran linux22:32
merpnderpTrying to set up ssh key logins22:32
onion3000hey I recently installed ubuntu on a dell laptop and have been running into the issue that the audio output device is only listed as dummy output, anybody know what I might try to solve this?22:32
onion3000I've tried adding snd-hca-intel.dmic_detect=0 to grub and it doesn't seem to do anything22:33
merpnderpUncommenting publickeyencryption means you can only log in with keys, right?22:33
danielssanmerpnderp: no you would also need to disable PasswordAuthentication22:33
onion3000same with snd-intel-dspcfg.dsp_driver=122:34
danielssanbut make sure first that the key works ;)22:34
merpnderpdanielssan: sweet, that defaults to commented out22:34
merpnderpoh no, it defaults to no22:34
merpnderpI mean yes22:34
merpnderpSO I need to set it to no22:34
danielssanyes22:34
merpnderpchmod 755 on my pub key?22:35
danielssanno22:35
danielssan600 merpnderp22:35
eruditehermit_it'll yell at you if it's anything other than 60022:36
merpnderpdanielssan: thank!22:36
merpnderpSo the firewall defaults to turned off?22:36
danielssanmerpnderp: yes, so you can add rules before turning it on22:37
danielssan(optherwise you would lock yourself out)22:37
merpnderpwell that socks. I just tired to ssh in and got prompted for my password22:41
merpnderpI must not have turned that off in sshd22:42
danielssanmerpnderp: did you already copy over your public key/22:42
danielssan?22:42
merpnderpyes22:43
merpnderpand changed it to 60022:43
merpnderpsshd_config has PasswordAuthentication no22:43
danielssanhuh? so did you use ssh-copy-id or something else?22:43
merpnderpmaybe I need to restart the service22:43
danielssanmerpnderp: yes22:43
merpnderpI used a usb drive22:43
danielssanmerpnderp: sudo systemctl restart sshd.service22:44
merpnderpHmm, well now I'm getting permission denied.22:44
danielssanmerpnderp: where?22:44
merpnderpFrom my ssh client22:44
danielssanso what did you do for copying your public key?22:45
merpnderpthe .pub is only rw by the user22:45
danielssanoh, so you literally copied your .pub to .ssh?22:45
merpnderpI'm doing `ssh -I ~/.ssh/privkey myname@ip`22:45
merpnderpdanielssan: yep22:45
merpnderp:D22:45
danielssanmerpnderp: your key would be needed in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys22:46
merpnderpDOH22:46
merpnderpThanks22:46
merpnderpForgot22:46
danielssanwith a permission of 64422:46
merpnderpwow, I have forgotten everything. tahnks22:46
danielssanmerpnderp eh that's normal that you forget stuff if you don't use it on a regular basis22:47
merpnderpOMG OMG OMG, I'm in. I'm so excited!!!!22:47
merpnderpI'm so pumped. So rather dev on this linux machine.22:47
merpnderpBesides it being like 10x more powerful than my laptop22:48
merpnderpdanielssan: lol, I'm so excited. Thanks again22:50
danielssanmerpnderp: np :) hf22:50
mactronHi22:57
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merpnderpDo you have to use sudo with nvm? I'm doing nvm install node and getting a permission error in a .cache directory in my user's path23:20
sarnoldmerpnderp: I suggest using namei -l on the path to that .cache directory (or whatever path is throwing the permission error)23:21
sarnoldyou'll probably find that a directory has the wrong owner or permissions, perhaps from accidentally using sudo previously when it shouldn't have been used23:21
merpnderpIt's RWX to everyone23:22
merpnderpand owned and group of my user23:22
sarnoldand all directories above it?23:23
merpnderpyes23:24
merpnderpIt's ~/.nvm/.cache/bin23:25
merpnderpMaybe I should try with su23:26
sarnoldleaving it world-writable is inviting problems if that's actually a multi-user machine23:26
merpnderpOh, it isn't world writable23:27
merpnderpThat's the only one23:27
merpnderpwhich nvm returns nothing, but I can type `nvm` and execute it23:27
merpnderplol, I just want to install node latest23:28

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