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bdmurray#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:01
meetingologyMeeting started at 15:01:00 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology15:01
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bdmurray#topic Lightning Round15:01
ginggso/15:01
mclemenceauo/15:01
bdmurrayecho $(shuf -e doko bdmurray vorlon sil2100 mwhudson juliank waveform slyon jawn-smith dbungert xypron ginggs schopin alexghiti)15:01
bdmurrayschopin ginggs waveform alexghiti dbungert bdmurray slyon vorlon sil2100 juliank xypron jawn-smith mwhudson doko15:01
schopin* openssl:15:01
schopin  + Composed and published our plans for the upcoming OpenSSL 3 transition:15:01
schopin    https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/openssl-3-0-transition-plans/2445315:02
schopin    (also in your ubuntu-devel@ inboxes as of a few minutes ago)15:02
schopin  + Filed bugs against all packages in main failing to build against openssl3,15:02
schopin    including preliminary investigation into upstream status on the issue:15:02
schopin    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=transition-openssl3-jj15:02
schopin* netplan:15:02
schopin  + Added the ability to remove an entire devtype from the configuration15:02
schopin    (LP: #1942930, PR 236)15:02
schopin  + Reviewed PR 238 for slyon (still ongoing)15:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1942930 in netplan "Unset a subtree crashes" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194293015:02
ubottuBug 236 in Launchpad itself "System Error on saving translations" [Medium, Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23615:02
schopin  + Prepared SRUs for LP: #1942930 and LP: #194312015:02
ubottuBug 238 in Baz (deprecated) "Botched invariant running 'baz status'" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23815:02
schopin  + Continued ongoing work on reworking libnetplan's API, see PRs 232 and 23315:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1943120 in netplan.io (Ubuntu Hirsute) "interface not  removed" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194312015:02
ubottuBug 233 in Launchpad itself "Maintainer not explicitly CC'd when a private distro bug is filed" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23315:02
schopin    15:02
ubottuBug 232 in Launchpad itself "Bug privacy appears to not be team aware" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23215:02
schopin(done)15:02
ginggs* been busy with second impish test rebuild https://people.canonical.com/~ginggs/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20210927-impish-impish.html15:02
ginggs* looking at sqlalchemy FTBFS LP: #193934615:02
ginggs* preparing for test rebuild with Python 3.10 as a supported version15:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1939346 in sqlalchemy (Ubuntu) "FTBFS 1.3.22+ds1-1 in build-docs during rebuild-test" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193934615:02
ginggs(done)15:02
bdmurraywaveform:15:03
waveform* Finish functionality (but not yet docs/tests) of built-in-ubuntu (previously built-before) script (https://code.launchpad.net/~waveform/ubuntu-dev-tools/+git/ubuntu-dev-tools/+ref/built-before)15:03
waveform* Sense HAT packages uploaded (many thanks to sil2100) (LP: #1944449, LP: #1944450)15:03
waveform* Finished investigation of HDMI display output failure in impish and hirsute (LP: #1944397)15:03
waveform* Worked on reproduction case for HDMI display freezes in impish kernel (LP: #1946368)15:03
waveform* Tested fkms workaround consequences for ^^ including with upstream kernels15:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1944449 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] rtimulib" [Wishlist, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194444915:03
waveform* Tested firmware upgrades for hirsute and impish with relation to ^^ (no requirement on hirsute, anecdotal improvement on impish)15:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1944450 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] python-sense-hat" [Wishlist, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194445015:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1944397 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu Impish) "HDMI does not display anything with Impish RPi desktop image" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194439715:03
waveform* Prepared do-release-upgrade workaround to force fkms15:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1946368 in linux-raspi (Ubuntu Impish) "HDMI output freezes under current/proposed impish kernels" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194636815:03
waveform* Prepared pi-gadget adjustment to force fkms (but only on impish builds)15:03
waveform* Pi meetings15:03
waveform(done)15:03
alexghitiReset in unmatched still under discussion15:03
alexghitiPocl package fails to build caused by LLVM-9 upgrade? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pocl/+bug/194620215:03
alexghitihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unoconv/+bug/194623215:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1946202 in pocl (Ubuntu) "Proposed: testsuite segfaults on ARM64" [Undecided, New]15:03
alexghitihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyricue/+bug/194622415:03
alexghitimesa-opencl-icd riscv64 reverted because LLVM JIT riscv is not supported yet https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/194276415:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1946232 in unoconv (Ubuntu) "Add build dependency to python3-uno" [Low, New]15:03
alexghitikexec/kdump tools review/test: https://github.com/riscv-collab/kexec-tools/tree/riscv15:03
alexghiti(done)15:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1946224 in lyricue (Ubuntu) "Add build dependency to unoconv" [Low, New]15:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1942764 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Enable riscv64 build of mesa-opencl-icd" [Medium, Fix Released]15:03
dbungert* livecd-rootfs vs u-d-i: A bug submitter on a different issue noted problems15:04
dbungertinstalling packages.  I traced it to LP: #194583115:04
dbungert* subiquity core20: finish work mwhudson started and get it operational.  about15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1945831 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "canary - partial sources.list" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194583115:04
dbungerthalf the size (25MB vs 55MB), almost entirely due to libicudata not being15:04
dbungertincluded (26MB file).15:04
dbungert* subiquity storage/v2: get a working usable first chunk, merged to main.15:04
dbungertIncludes 2x the size of the actual changes in API-level tests.  Continuing on15:04
dbungerta follow-on branch to address feedback items.15:04
dbungert* subiquity: write release notes for 21.10.1 release15:04
dbungert* subiquity: CI - workaround impish daily networking being bad15:04
dbungert* +1 crowdsec: can fix FTBFS by change to docker to no longer ship the vendored15:04
dbungertsource directory in golang-github-docker-docker-dev, which requires a15:04
dbungertmini-transition build depends fix on 7 packages.  LP: #194637615:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1946376 in golang-github-tonistiigi-fsutil (Ubuntu) "FTBFS due to conflict with vendored source in docker.io" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194637615:04
dbungert* +1 rust-alacritty-terminal: removed (LP: #1946008)15:04
dbungert* +1 rust-proc-macro2: investigating15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1946008 in rust-alacritty-terminal (Ubuntu) "Please remove rust-alacritty-terminal from impish" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194600815:04
dbungert(done)15:04
sil2100bdmurray: ^15:04
bdmurrayreported LP: #194501515:04
bdmurraysru-verification of LP: #194447515:04
bdmurrayiso testing for the Beta15:04
bdmurraybuilt new desktop canary image15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1945015 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "link for opening release notes no longer works" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194501515:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1944475 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Impish) "DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive is now interactive" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194447515:04
bdmurrayreviews of uploads for impish15:05
bdmurraycreated a bug for the tzdata update (LP: #1945527)15:05
bdmurrayuploaded tzdata for II, HH, FF, BB, X15:05
bdmurraysru-verification of tzdata update LP: #194552715:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1945527 in tzdata (Ubuntu Xenial) "Update tzdata to version 2021a-2" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194552715:05
bdmurraysubmitted PR re autopkgtest building EoL VMs15:05
bdmurraysubmitted an MP re ubuntu-archive-tools and sru-review for devel release15:05
bdmurraybuilt a server image for IoT project15:05
bdmurrayupdated livecd-rootfs w/ a fix for focal server image building15:05
bdmurrayfixed an issue with apport's autopkgtests and /proc/sys/kernel/core_uses_pid15:05
bdmurrayuploaded tzdata for ESM releases (trusty, xenial)15:05
bdmurrayuploaded distro-info-data for impish15:05
bdmurraythat's really two weeks of status minus some holidays15:05
bdmurrayslyon:15:05
slyon- Interview15:05
slyon- netplan discussions on debian-devel15:05
slyon- upload systemd 248.3-1ubuntu8, LP: #1942899, LP: #1942113, cgroup v2 cleanup15:05
slyon- upload netplan.io 0.103-0ubuntu7, LP: #194293015:05
slyon- updated snapd PR#10212 now that netplan bionic SRU landed, LP: #192644215:05
slyon- sponsored netplan.io SRUs (Hirsute & Focal) for schopin15:05
slyon- roadmap discussions around systemd & netplan15:05
slyon=== Netplan ===15:05
slyon- Testing and fixing smaller issues with core20/edge vs netplan 0.103 vs NM15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1942899 in systemd (Ubuntu Impish) "Revert Add ACCEL_LOCATION=base property for Dell clamshell models" [Medium, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194289915:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1942113 in glibc (Ubuntu) "systemd unit test regression in autopkgtest (oomd-utils)" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194211315:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1942930 in netplan "Unset a subtree crashes" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194293015:05
ubottuBug 10212 in openssl (Ubuntu) "der_chop script has file in /tmp security holes" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1021215:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1926442 in Snappy "[SRU] cannot execute 'netplan generate' from within a snap" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192644215:05
slyon  + https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/23815:05
slyon  + https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/snappy-hwe-snaps/+git/network-manager/+merge/40967915:05
slyon- prepared https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/235 (glib 2.70 compatibility)15:05
slyon- reviewed https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/23715:05
slyon- review & merged https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/236, pending SRU15:05
slyon- starting to enable tests in Debian (incompatiblities with ifupdonw/resolvconf)15:05
slyon  + working on Debian v0.103 merge15:05
ubottuPull 238 in canonical/netplan "parse-nm: Handle missing gateway in keyfile routes, keep dns-search fallback" [Open]15:05
slyon(done)15:05
ubottuPull 235 in canonical/netplan "generate:dbus:util: glib 2.70 compat" [Open]15:05
ubottuPull 237 in canonical/netplan "feat: mdns configuration (LP: #1830507)" [Open]15:05
ubottuPull 236 in canonical/netplan "netplan: set: make it possible to unset a whole devtype subtree (LP: #1942930) (FR-1685)" [Merged]15:06
vorlon * proposed-migration: focused on identifying and fixing bottlenecks in the britney runs, to fix longstanding concerns about the rate of iteration in Ubuntu (LP: #1904880)15:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1904880 in britney "Update_excuses is permanently outdated" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190488015:06
vorlon   * fixed some bottlenecks related to the large number of hints in use; the hints implementation was not designed to be scalable15:06
vorlon   * identified some wasteful reports that were broken and haven't been used in 5 years, so stopped generating them15:06
vorlon   * downloading of autopkgtest results from swift is NOT a chokepoint15:06
vorlon   * reduced proposed-migration iterations with the most recent set of packages in -proposed from ~1h30m to ~30m15:06
vorlon   * will be looking some more now that there are a lot more packages in -proposed, to see if we have any different bottlenecks worth examining15:06
vorlon * tzdata SRU reviews15:06
vorlon(done)15:06
sil2100* Catching up after 2-week vacation15:06
sil2100* A LOT of queue reviews for impish15:06
sil2100* Hint reviews15:06
sil2100* NEW reviews of sense-hat packages15:06
sil2100* 21.10:15:06
sil2100  - Prepared tracking document15:06
sil2100  - Coordinated langpacks, webteam and release notes prep15:06
sil2100  - Updated ubiquity translations, poked Michael about DDTP updates15:06
sil2100* ubuntu-cdimage simplestreams:15:07
sil2100  - Improved the test story15:07
sil2100  - Found a few more edge cases but now on the right track15:07
sil2100* Discussions with the Ubuntu Core team15:07
sil2100* Discussion with UC and Launchpad about future coreXX series bootstrapping15:07
sil2100* Debugging core22 build issues on impish - requires a new snapd15:07
sil2100  - Added workaround to use the edge snapd during build15:07
sil2100* Adding bionic and focal to the ESM britney handling, fix weird utf-8 crash15:07
sil2100* ubuntu-image roadmap discussions15:07
sil2100(done)15:07
juliankOct 07:15:07
juliank* reviewed shims15:07
juliank  - ACK Rocky Linux 8 (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/194)15:07
ubottuIssue 194 in rhboot/shim-review "Shim 15.4 for Rocky Linux 8" [Open]15:07
juliank  - NAK AmZetta (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/211)15:07
ubottuIssue 211 in rhboot/shim-review "SHIM 15.4 for AmZetta Technologies, LLC" [Open]15:07
juliank  - NAK NComputing (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/206)15:07
ubottuIssue 206 in rhboot/shim-review "SHIM 15.4 for NComputing Global, Inc." [Open]15:07
juliank  - NAK CBL-D (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/203)15:07
ubottuIssue 203 in rhboot/shim-review "Shim 15.4 for CBL-D" [Open]15:07
juliank* merged a pull request from chriscoulson15:07
juliank* reviewed https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/merge_requests/185 on IRC15:07
ubottuMerge 185 in apt-team/apt "add pattern to select packages by priority (closes: #989558)" [Opened]15:07
juliank* further grub2 initrdfail work for bionic LP: #1925507, LP: #1929860, LP: #190155315:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1925507 in grub2 (Ubuntu Focal) "grub-common: snapd autopkgtests fail on s390x" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192550715:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1929860 in grub2 (Ubuntu Bionic) "initrdfail can result in resuming with different initrd images and hanging resume" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192986015:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1901553 in grub2 (Ubuntu Focal) "Improve documentation around initrdless boot" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190155315:07
juliank(done)15:08
xypron#1945807 bbrun: build failure on RISC-V -> debdiff created - to be changed in Debian first15:08
xypron#1945803 a2jmidid: building on RISC-V fails -> debdiff created - to be changed in Debian first15:08
xypron#1945787 heimdal: fails to build, symbols don't match -> fix released15:08
xypronAnalyzed GRUB TFTP failure: patches sent upstream (https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2021-10/msg00028.html)15:08
xypron<done>15:08
jawn-smith* Hinted sshuttle so openssh finally migrated \o/15:08
jawn-smith* Investigated sshuttle failure but haven't narrowed down a cause15:08
jawn-smith* Re-write ubuntu-image in Go:15:08
jawn-smith    * All states written!15:08
jawn-smith    * Manually testing many scenarios (pc-amd64/classic, core18, core20, raspi)15:08
jawn-smith    * Big code cleanup and adding testing asserters for cleaner test functions and duplicate code reduction15:08
jawn-smith    * Still writing test cases, currently over 99% test coverage15:08
jawn-smith    * Expect to open a PR today15:08
jawn-smith    * Adding new --validation flag per pedronis' PR to the python ubuntu-image15:08
jawn-smith[done]15:08
bdmurraydoko:15:09
doko- had to take a vacation day on Wed for some errands15:09
doko- no-change uploads for zstd compression, fixing some fallout15:09
doko(done)15:09
bdmurrayare there any questions on status?15:10
bdmurray#topic Release Incoming Bugs15:10
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-incoming-bug-tasks.html15:10
bdmurraybug 194584815:11
ubottuBug 1945848 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No Russian layout during keyboard configuration setup" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194584815:11
vorlonthis should be fixed please ;)15:12
vorlonsome day we'll have a flutter installer and all will be well with desktop settings15:12
vorlonin the meantime...15:12
sil2100eeek15:13
bdmurrayokay, so let's target it and card it15:13
sil2100Yes15:13
bdmurrayWho'd be a good candidate to work on this?15:13
vorlonany volunteers?15:13
sil2100I could take a look, will pull in Gunnar15:13
vorlonI have opinions but not necessarily the time15:13
sil2100Together we will be invincible15:13
vorlonas long as sil2100 has the time, given that he's also on point for the release15:14
bdmurraybug 123109115:15
ubottuBug 1231091 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screenreader starts, but does not work with installer (ubiquity) in live session" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123109115:15
vorlonthat's a rather low bug number15:15
bdmurrayI thought we'd talked about it before15:15
vorlonI therefore doubt it's legit and there should've been a new bug report opened for any current issues15:15
bdmurrayNo, its a legit issue but one we decided wasn't really fixable15:16
vorlonoh15:16
bdmurrayhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1231091/comments/915:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1231091 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screenreader starts, but does not work with installer (ubiquity) in live session" [High, Triaged]15:17
bdmurraywe'll pass on that one15:18
bdmurraybug 194307715:18
ubottuBug 1943077 in squashfs-tools (Ubuntu) "snapd fails to autopkgtest on mksquashfs, which is looking for libgcc_s" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194307715:18
dbungertsnapd snapcraft has a fix for this, but the latest snapd upload still has the same adt failure.  Perhaps the deb package portion needs a fix also.15:19
vorlonso likely no action here for Foundations prior to release?15:20
sil2100Yeah, I know this one, this was actually the source of the core22 build issues on impish we've been seeing15:21
dbungerttag was added with https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1943077/comments/715:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1943077 in squashfs-tools (Ubuntu) "snapd fails to autopkgtest on mksquashfs, which is looking for libgcc_s" [Undecided, New]15:21
dbungertis that portion of the problem release critical?15:21
vorlonthere is snapd in -proposed, does it fix this?15:22
dbungertsadly not, unless you snap refresh snapd from edge15:22
vorlonit's the new release they cut15:22
vorlonhmm15:22
slyonin that comment #7 it says: snap (at "/snap/snapd/current") is older ("2.51.7") than distribution package ("2.53~pre1.git19b68f708")15:23
vorlonwell, unless someone thinks there are fixes needed still to squashfs-tools we should pass on this15:23
slyonso it's probably unrelated to the deb15:23
dbungertI don't believe squashfs-tools changes are needed15:23
bdmurrayokay so moving on then15:23
bdmurraybug 194381615:23
ubottuBug 1943816 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "'ubuntu-drivers install' needs to be used when installing nvidia-driver if enabling 'third-party packages'" [High, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194381615:23
vorlondbungert: do you want to follow up with the snapd team to check if this is supposed to be released to stable before we cut release images?15:24
dbungertack15:24
vorlonI know I discussed this one previously, and suggested we want tseliot to look at it15:24
vorlonas the primary maintainer of that package15:24
bdmurrayit is assigned to him15:25
vorloncan someone reach out to him (on European time) and check if he's working on fixing it for release?15:25
ginggsi can do that15:26
vorlonthanks15:26
bdmurrayoh bug 1944519 was already carded15:26
ubottuBug 1944519 in casper (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Mate shutdown prompt is missing - system reboots at once" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194451915:26
bdmurrayI'll have a look at that today15:27
bdmurray#link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html15:27
bdmurraythat's empty15:27
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html15:27
bdmurrayis also empty15:27
mclemenceauThis bug was brought up to our attention LP: #194600115:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1946001 in linux-aws (Ubuntu Impish) "impish:linux 5.13 panic during systemd autotest" [Critical, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194600115:28
bdmurrayThe release team is aware of this15:29
bdmurray#topic Team proposed-migration report15:29
mclemenceauok excellent15:29
vorlon[LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:29
vorlonapport is blocking glibc, bdmurray is hinting that15:29
vorlonsbcl is confusing, it seems to be a genuine regression but we're not sure why15:30
vorlonif anyone here wants to dig into that, more eyes wouldn't hurt15:30
bdmurraywhat is sbcl?15:30
vorlona lisp interpreter15:30
vorlonsouthwestern bell common lisp15:30
vorlonI am amused by the backtrace, "Running (SLEEP :PRETTY-MUCH-FOREVER)" --> timed out15:31
bdmurrayginggs: ?15:31
vorlonanyway, systemd vs linux-aws is bound to be the kernel issue described above, so ignoring15:32
ginggssure15:32
vorlonwe're close to release, so let's go a bit further into the 'not yet late' packages15:32
vorlonsystemd: slyon are you working on resolving the autopkgtest regressions?15:32
slyonyes.15:32
slyonsnapd is the libgcc_s issue15:33
slyondocker might be regressed in release. I will double check both of that and file hints if needed15:33
vorlonslyon: so are you proposing an override hint for snapd?15:33
vorlonlibdrm, not our upload; I'm hitting retry just to see and will follo wup15:34
slyonvorlon: probably yes. dbungert: how did you handle that issue in the past? You hinted it, right?15:34
dbungertslyon: we skiptested the other packages, not snapd directly15:34
vorlondoko: lvm2 is xnox's upload to fix your previous ftbfs upload, do you want to look at this?15:34
slyonok15:34
bdmurraydocker had / has a hint15:35
dbungertat the time snapd still had the cgroupv2 issue so I considered that test failure vs systemd to be legit15:35
bdmurrayoh, just not for amd6415:35
vorlonand the rest of the packages on this list are the packages doko uploaded today, so done15:35
dokough, I'll give it a try15:35
vorlonbdmurray: back to you15:38
bdmurray#topic AOB15:38
bdmurrayMonday is a US holiday but I'm not taking it because its release week!15:39
vorlonI am taking Monday however15:39
schopin... whereas I'm taking Friday which is NOT a French holiday ;-)15:39
jawn-smithI'm doing the same as bdmurray: swapping Monday for Friday15:40
dbungertI'm swapping Monday for I don't know what yet15:40
vorloneka-Veteran's day15:41
bdmurrayokay, thanks everbody15:42
bdmurray#endmeeting15:42
meetingologyMeeting ended at 15:42:29 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-10-07-15.01.moin.txt15:42
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Wild_Man#startmeeting 20:00 UTC Membership Board Meeting20:05
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bashfulrobothey galgalesh - welcome!20:05
galgalesho/20:06
Wild_ManHello and welcome to the Membership Board meeting!20:06
Wild_ManThe wiki page for the Review Board is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting.20:06
Wild_ManIf we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).20:06
Wild_ManEach applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.20:06
Wild_ManDuring this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.20:06
Wild_ManYou've signed the code of conduct. Did you understand everything it said and do you agree to abide by the spirit of the code of conduct?20:07
galgaleshyes20:07
Wild_Man#topic galgalesh20:07
* diddledani pokenprod the bot20:08
Wild_Mangalgalesh , please introduce yourself to the board, and share a link to your LP and wiki20:08
* fenris pong the bot20:08
Wild_ManIt's a sleep20:08
diddledaniwiki/forum post20:08
Wild_ManYes thanks diddledani20:09
diddledaniwe're still getting used to having applications via the forum :-)20:09
galgaleshHi all! My name is Merlijn Sebrechts. I'm a contributor from Belgium. Today I'm mostly active in the snapcraft community, being a core member of snapcrafters and maintaining a bunch of desktop snaps. I used to be active in the Yaru project and the charms.reactive project.20:09
galgaleshThis is my discourse post: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/merlijn-membership-application/2400520:09
Kilosi quite fancy the discourse thing20:10
diddledanithanks, galgalesh , and hi :-)20:10
galgalesh=D20:10
Wild_ManThanks galgalesh, please give us a few minutes to review20:11
diddledaniso, now you're a cyborg, are you more, or less, concerned about skynet? ;-p20:11
fenrisprevious applicant writing on their wiki .. but our cyborg here write his stories on discourse :) .. fancied20:12
galgaleshOof, good question! I think I'm more concerned now that I've given part of my essential primary functions are done using technology.20:12
fenrismaybe @galgalesh can continue to be snapcrafter cyborg20:12
fenrisor charmer cyborg20:13
bashfulrobotI can't lie, I started the Krita snap wayyyyyyy back in the day before others took it over, so if galgalesh is the maintainer now, it's almost an instant vote for me. :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: That thing was a pain back then.....20:13
bashfulrobotBut to be serious, it looks like you have a really strong application. It is interesting to see how you have moved between different components of the Canonical ecosystem (snaps, juju, yaru, etc) . It's great to see someone staying in the ecosystem, even if interests have changed.20:13
diddledaniI love that you've got a varied portfolio of contributions. Are you likely to go back to juju or charms, or are you mostly focusing on snapcraft (like me)?20:13
bashfulrobotthis! 👆20:13
galgaleshI'm mostly staying in snapcraft. My contributions to charms was mostly professionally oriented, but that focus has shifted to Kubernetes. Now we just use charms to kickstart k8s. :)20:14
fenrissorry to ask, how many krita got on snap .. i can only see 1 .. but its published by krita20:15
diddledanithat makes sense :-)20:15
bashfulrobotI'm just getting started there myself professionally20:15
fenrismaybe someone can enlighten me20:15
Wild_Mangalgalesh, do you have plans to broaden your contributions in the community to include helping answer questions in your free time?20:15
galgaleshYes, I'm a contributor to the snap published by Krita.20:15
bashfulrobotWell it is likely that Krita was started in the snapcrafter org, then moved successfully into the Krita org.20:15
bashfulrobotThat20:16
fenris+1 to @bashfulrobot for @galgalesh contribution to snaps, juju, yaru and etc20:16
diddledaninot yet, fenris ;-p20:16
bashfulrobotis usually the goal of a snap being  started in snapcrafters, help them build, and hopefully they take over.20:16
fenrisdiddledani: not voting .. just to 2nd what @bashfulrobot said earlier20:16
fenris:)20:16
* diddledani whistles nonchalantly20:17
fenris@bashfulrobot duly noted20:17
* bashfulrobot sees what you did there20:17
galgaleshWild_Man interesting question! I'm happy to teach others, although I'm not sure what the best format is. I used to be active on AskUbuntu but I stopped after some unpleasant experiences with other community members there.20:18
diddledaniyou've got a hefty score on AskUbuntu!20:18
bashfulrobotgalgalesh: with you planned improvements to desktop snaps, is the idea to be QT focused, or more in general (other toolkits, and the desktop in general)20:18
bashfulrobotdiddledani: you beat me to clicking the link20:18
bashfulrobotheh20:18
Wild_Mangalgalesh, I understand I have not had the time to help on Ask Ubuntu in a long time now20:18
Wild_ManI did review your contributions there yesterday20:19
galgaleshI would really like to improve the QT situation specifically, since that still has some pain points. I also would really like to get a better toolkit for snapping 32-bit and gtk-2 apps. Next to that, I'm maintaining and improving sommelier-core to make it easier to snap Windows applications. Might be a bit controversial though ;)20:20
diddledanisommelier is awesome20:21
bashfulrobotno judgement here. right tool/right job20:21
bashfulrobot👍20:21
Wild_ManYou have your hands full20:21
Wild_ManReady to vote?20:21
galgaleshMy ambitions are always bigger than my available time '=D20:21
diddledaniapart from myself, galgalesh seems to be the most active person in the Snapcrafters20:21
* bashfulrobot kicks the dirt in shame20:22
Wild_ManMine to galgalesh20:22
Kilosi am impressed20:22
diddledaniI'm ready20:22
* fenris ready 20:22
Wild_Man#voters Wild_Man diddledan bashfulrobot fenris Kilos20:22
meetingologyWarning: 'diddledan' not in channel20:22
meetingologyCurrent voters: Kilos, Wild_Man, bashfulrobot, diddledan, fenris20:22
diddledanihah. you got my old nick20:22
Wild_Man#voters Wild_Man diddledani bashfulrobot fenris Kilos20:22
meetingologyCurrent voters: Kilos, Wild_Man, bashfulrobot, diddledan, diddledani, fenris20:22
galgaleshooof.mp320:22
diddledani+1 was there ever any doubt about my vote?20:23
Wild_Man#vote galgalesh  membership20:23
meetingologyPlease vote on: galgalesh  membership20:23
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')20:23
diddledani+1 was there ever any doubt about my vote?20:23
meetingology+1 was there ever any doubt about my vote? received from diddledani20:23
Wild_Man+120:23
meetingology+1 received from Wild_Man20:23
bashfulrobot+120:23
meetingology+1 received from bashfulrobot20:23
fenris+120:23
meetingology+1 received from fenris20:23
Kilosdefinite +1 Keep up the good work20:23
bashfulroboteasy plus 120:23
Kilos+120:23
meetingology+1 received from Kilos20:23
diddledanithat'll do it20:24
bashfulrobotweeelllcccommmeeeee.20:24
galgalesh\o/20:24
madhens\o/ Congrats!20:24
galgalesh\O/20:24
bashfulrobot🎉20:24
Kiloswelcome onboard20:24
* diddledani waits for the bot confirmation20:24
fenriscongratulation and welcome onboard @galgalesh20:24
Wild_Man#endvote20:24
meetingologyVoting ended on: galgalesh  membership20:24
meetingologyVotes for: 5, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 020:24
meetingologyMotion carried20:24
Wild_ManSorry guys I had a computer issue20:25
diddledanicongratulations!20:25
Kilosnp20:25
Wild_ManWelcome galgalesh20:25
diddledanidon't forget to apply for your certificate once we've got you added to ~ubuntumembers on launchpad: https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/20:25
Wild_ManI am using a virtual machine and sometimes it acts up20:25
Wild_Man#endmeeting20:26
meetingologyMeeting ended at 20:26:23 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-10-07-20.05.moin.txt20:26
madhensThere's still a biiiit of a delay on the certificates but Claire and I are working on it!20:26
galgaleshThanks! How does the email address work?20:26
* diddledani hugs madhens 20:26
bashfulrobotGood meeting all20:27
Wild_Mangalgalesh, it takes about 48 hours after being added to the team20:27
diddledanithe email will activate within 24-48 hours after you're added to ~ubuntumembers - make sure you do *not* set it as your primary launchpad email because that will cause a black holing loop20:27
madhensGreat job, everyone!20:27
diddledanimadhens: now to go find more lambs for the ^H^H^H applicants for membership20:28
Wild_ManThank madhens we all appreciate what you do for the community20:28
Kilosthank you again madhens20:29
fenristhanks madhens20:29
madhensHeeee, Dani, I know we have some to round up. And thank you, everyone! Team works make the dream work, and welcome again, galgalesh, to the Ubuntu Members! :)20:30
fenrisadded galgalesh to Ubuntu Members team , welcome on board once again!20:34
Kilosi dont know if anyone needs to tell him about the ubuntu cloak20:38
madhensAt least it's not a Canonical cloak *shudders*20:38
Kilosand mails20:38
sarnoldand meeting invites20:40
Kilosnight everyone.20:46
madhensNight all, and thanks again!20:46
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