=== doko_ is now known as doko === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 === genii-core is now known as genii [14:59] o/ [15:00] o/ [15:00] o/ [15:00] o/ [15:00] o/ [15:00] o/ [15:00] o/ [15:01] #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team [15:01] Meeting started at 15:01:00 UTC. The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:01] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [15:01] #topic Lightning Round [15:01] o/ [15:01] o/ [15:01] echo $(shuf -e doko bdmurray vorlon sil2100 mwhudson juliank waveform slyon jawn-smith dbungert xypron ginggs schopin alexghiti) [15:01] schopin ginggs waveform alexghiti dbungert bdmurray slyon vorlon sil2100 juliank xypron jawn-smith mwhudson doko [15:01] * openssl: [15:01] + Composed and published our plans for the upcoming OpenSSL 3 transition: [15:02] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/openssl-3-0-transition-plans/24453 [15:02] (also in your ubuntu-devel@ inboxes as of a few minutes ago) [15:02] + Filed bugs against all packages in main failing to build against openssl3, [15:02] including preliminary investigation into upstream status on the issue: [15:02] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=transition-openssl3-jj [15:02] * netplan: [15:02] + Added the ability to remove an entire devtype from the configuration [15:02] (LP: #1942930, PR 236) [15:02] + Reviewed PR 238 for slyon (still ongoing) [15:02] Launchpad bug 1942930 in netplan "Unset a subtree crashes" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1942930 [15:02] Bug 236 in Launchpad itself "System Error on saving translations" [Medium, Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236 [15:02] + Prepared SRUs for LP: #1942930 and LP: #1943120 [15:02] Bug 238 in Baz (deprecated) "Botched invariant running 'baz status'" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238 [15:02] + Continued ongoing work on reworking libnetplan's API, see PRs 232 and 233 [15:02] Launchpad bug 1943120 in netplan.io (Ubuntu Hirsute) "interface not removed" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1943120 [15:02] Bug 233 in Launchpad itself "Maintainer not explicitly CC'd when a private distro bug is filed" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/233 [15:02] [15:02] Bug 232 in Launchpad itself "Bug privacy appears to not be team aware" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/232 [15:02] (done) [15:02] * been busy with second impish test rebuild https://people.canonical.com/~ginggs/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20210927-impish-impish.html [15:02] * looking at sqlalchemy FTBFS LP: #1939346 [15:02] * preparing for test rebuild with Python 3.10 as a supported version [15:02] Launchpad bug 1939346 in sqlalchemy (Ubuntu) "FTBFS 1.3.22+ds1-1 in build-docs during rebuild-test" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1939346 [15:02] (done) [15:03] waveform: [15:03] * Finish functionality (but not yet docs/tests) of built-in-ubuntu (previously built-before) script (https://code.launchpad.net/~waveform/ubuntu-dev-tools/+git/ubuntu-dev-tools/+ref/built-before) [15:03] * Sense HAT packages uploaded (many thanks to sil2100) (LP: #1944449, LP: #1944450) [15:03] * Finished investigation of HDMI display output failure in impish and hirsute (LP: #1944397) [15:03] * Worked on reproduction case for HDMI display freezes in impish kernel (LP: #1946368) [15:03] * Tested fkms workaround consequences for ^^ including with upstream kernels [15:03] Launchpad bug 1944449 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] rtimulib" [Wishlist, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944449 [15:03] * Tested firmware upgrades for hirsute and impish with relation to ^^ (no requirement on hirsute, anecdotal improvement on impish) [15:03] Launchpad bug 1944450 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] python-sense-hat" [Wishlist, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944450 [15:03] Launchpad bug 1944397 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu Impish) "HDMI does not display anything with Impish RPi desktop image" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944397 [15:03] * Prepared do-release-upgrade workaround to force fkms [15:03] Launchpad bug 1946368 in linux-raspi (Ubuntu Impish) "HDMI output freezes under current/proposed impish kernels" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946368 [15:03] * Prepared pi-gadget adjustment to force fkms (but only on impish builds) [15:03] * Pi meetings [15:03] (done) [15:03] Reset in unmatched still under discussion [15:03] Pocl package fails to build caused by LLVM-9 upgrade? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pocl/+bug/1946202 [15:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unoconv/+bug/1946232 [15:03] Launchpad bug 1946202 in pocl (Ubuntu) "Proposed: testsuite segfaults on ARM64" [Undecided, New] [15:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyricue/+bug/1946224 [15:03] mesa-opencl-icd riscv64 reverted because LLVM JIT riscv is not supported yet https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1942764 [15:03] Launchpad bug 1946232 in unoconv (Ubuntu) "Add build dependency to python3-uno" [Low, New] [15:03] kexec/kdump tools review/test: https://github.com/riscv-collab/kexec-tools/tree/riscv [15:03] (done) [15:03] Launchpad bug 1946224 in lyricue (Ubuntu) "Add build dependency to unoconv" [Low, New] [15:03] Launchpad bug 1942764 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Enable riscv64 build of mesa-opencl-icd" [Medium, Fix Released] [15:04] * livecd-rootfs vs u-d-i: A bug submitter on a different issue noted problems [15:04] installing packages. I traced it to LP: #1945831 [15:04] * subiquity core20: finish work mwhudson started and get it operational. about [15:04] Launchpad bug 1945831 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "canary - partial sources.list" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1945831 [15:04] half the size (25MB vs 55MB), almost entirely due to libicudata not being [15:04] included (26MB file). [15:04] * subiquity storage/v2: get a working usable first chunk, merged to main. [15:04] Includes 2x the size of the actual changes in API-level tests. Continuing on [15:04] a follow-on branch to address feedback items. [15:04] * subiquity: write release notes for 21.10.1 release [15:04] * subiquity: CI - workaround impish daily networking being bad [15:04] * +1 crowdsec: can fix FTBFS by change to docker to no longer ship the vendored [15:04] source directory in golang-github-docker-docker-dev, which requires a [15:04] mini-transition build depends fix on 7 packages. LP: #1946376 [15:04] Launchpad bug 1946376 in golang-github-tonistiigi-fsutil (Ubuntu) "FTBFS due to conflict with vendored source in docker.io" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946376 [15:04] * +1 rust-alacritty-terminal: removed (LP: #1946008) [15:04] * +1 rust-proc-macro2: investigating [15:04] Launchpad bug 1946008 in rust-alacritty-terminal (Ubuntu) "Please remove rust-alacritty-terminal from impish" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946008 [15:04] (done) [15:04] bdmurray: ^ [15:04] reported LP: #1945015 [15:04] sru-verification of LP: #1944475 [15:04] iso testing for the Beta [15:04] built new desktop canary image [15:04] Launchpad bug 1945015 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "link for opening release notes no longer works" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1945015 [15:04] Launchpad bug 1944475 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Impish) "DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive is now interactive" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944475 [15:05] reviews of uploads for impish [15:05] created a bug for the tzdata update (LP: #1945527) [15:05] uploaded tzdata for II, HH, FF, BB, X [15:05] sru-verification of tzdata update LP: #1945527 [15:05] Launchpad bug 1945527 in tzdata (Ubuntu Xenial) "Update tzdata to version 2021a-2" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1945527 [15:05] submitted PR re autopkgtest building EoL VMs [15:05] submitted an MP re ubuntu-archive-tools and sru-review for devel release [15:05] built a server image for IoT project [15:05] updated livecd-rootfs w/ a fix for focal server image building [15:05] fixed an issue with apport's autopkgtests and /proc/sys/kernel/core_uses_pid [15:05] uploaded tzdata for ESM releases (trusty, xenial) [15:05] uploaded distro-info-data for impish [15:05] that's really two weeks of status minus some holidays [15:05] slyon: [15:05] - Interview [15:05] - netplan discussions on debian-devel [15:05] - upload systemd 248.3-1ubuntu8, LP: #1942899, LP: #1942113, cgroup v2 cleanup [15:05] - upload netplan.io 0.103-0ubuntu7, LP: #1942930 [15:05] - updated snapd PR#10212 now that netplan bionic SRU landed, LP: #1926442 [15:05] - sponsored netplan.io SRUs (Hirsute & Focal) for schopin [15:05] - roadmap discussions around systemd & netplan [15:05] === Netplan === [15:05] - Testing and fixing smaller issues with core20/edge vs netplan 0.103 vs NM [15:05] Launchpad bug 1942899 in systemd (Ubuntu Impish) "Revert Add ACCEL_LOCATION=base property for Dell clamshell models" [Medium, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1942899 [15:05] Launchpad bug 1942113 in glibc (Ubuntu) "systemd unit test regression in autopkgtest (oomd-utils)" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1942113 [15:05] Launchpad bug 1942930 in netplan "Unset a subtree crashes" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1942930 [15:05] Bug 10212 in openssl (Ubuntu) "der_chop script has file in /tmp security holes" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10212 [15:05] Launchpad bug 1926442 in Snappy "[SRU] cannot execute 'netplan generate' from within a snap" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1926442 [15:05] + https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/238 [15:05] + https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/snappy-hwe-snaps/+git/network-manager/+merge/409679 [15:05] - prepared https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/235 (glib 2.70 compatibility) [15:05] - reviewed https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/237 [15:05] - review & merged https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/236, pending SRU [15:05] - starting to enable tests in Debian (incompatiblities with ifupdonw/resolvconf) [15:05] + working on Debian v0.103 merge [15:05] Pull 238 in canonical/netplan "parse-nm: Handle missing gateway in keyfile routes, keep dns-search fallback" [Open] [15:05] (done) [15:05] Pull 235 in canonical/netplan "generate:dbus:util: glib 2.70 compat" [Open] [15:05] Pull 237 in canonical/netplan "feat: mdns configuration (LP: #1830507)" [Open] [15:06] Pull 236 in canonical/netplan "netplan: set: make it possible to unset a whole devtype subtree (LP: #1942930) (FR-1685)" [Merged] [15:06] * proposed-migration: focused on identifying and fixing bottlenecks in the britney runs, to fix longstanding concerns about the rate of iteration in Ubuntu (LP: #1904880) [15:06] Launchpad bug 1904880 in britney "Update_excuses is permanently outdated" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1904880 [15:06] * fixed some bottlenecks related to the large number of hints in use; the hints implementation was not designed to be scalable [15:06] * identified some wasteful reports that were broken and haven't been used in 5 years, so stopped generating them [15:06] * downloading of autopkgtest results from swift is NOT a chokepoint [15:06] * reduced proposed-migration iterations with the most recent set of packages in -proposed from ~1h30m to ~30m [15:06] * will be looking some more now that there are a lot more packages in -proposed, to see if we have any different bottlenecks worth examining [15:06] * tzdata SRU reviews [15:06] (done) [15:06] * Catching up after 2-week vacation [15:06] * A LOT of queue reviews for impish [15:06] * Hint reviews [15:06] * NEW reviews of sense-hat packages [15:06] * 21.10: [15:06] - Prepared tracking document [15:06] - Coordinated langpacks, webteam and release notes prep [15:06] - Updated ubiquity translations, poked Michael about DDTP updates [15:07] * ubuntu-cdimage simplestreams: [15:07] - Improved the test story [15:07] - Found a few more edge cases but now on the right track [15:07] * Discussions with the Ubuntu Core team [15:07] * Discussion with UC and Launchpad about future coreXX series bootstrapping [15:07] * Debugging core22 build issues on impish - requires a new snapd [15:07] - Added workaround to use the edge snapd during build [15:07] * Adding bionic and focal to the ESM britney handling, fix weird utf-8 crash [15:07] * ubuntu-image roadmap discussions [15:07] (done) [15:07] Oct 07: [15:07] * reviewed shims [15:07] - ACK Rocky Linux 8 (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/194) [15:07] Issue 194 in rhboot/shim-review "Shim 15.4 for Rocky Linux 8" [Open] [15:07] - NAK AmZetta (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/211) [15:07] Issue 211 in rhboot/shim-review "SHIM 15.4 for AmZetta Technologies, LLC" [Open] [15:07] - NAK NComputing (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/206) [15:07] Issue 206 in rhboot/shim-review "SHIM 15.4 for NComputing Global, Inc." [Open] [15:07] - NAK CBL-D (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/203) [15:07] Issue 203 in rhboot/shim-review "Shim 15.4 for CBL-D" [Open] [15:07] * merged a pull request from chriscoulson [15:07] * reviewed https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/merge_requests/185 on IRC [15:07] Merge 185 in apt-team/apt "add pattern to select packages by priority (closes: #989558)" [Opened] [15:07] * further grub2 initrdfail work for bionic LP: #1925507, LP: #1929860, LP: #1901553 [15:07] Launchpad bug 1925507 in grub2 (Ubuntu Focal) "grub-common: snapd autopkgtests fail on s390x" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1925507 [15:07] Launchpad bug 1929860 in grub2 (Ubuntu Bionic) "initrdfail can result in resuming with different initrd images and hanging resume" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929860 [15:07] Launchpad bug 1901553 in grub2 (Ubuntu Focal) "Improve documentation around initrdless boot" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901553 [15:08] (done) [15:08] #1945807 bbrun: build failure on RISC-V -> debdiff created - to be changed in Debian first [15:08] #1945803 a2jmidid: building on RISC-V fails -> debdiff created - to be changed in Debian first [15:08] #1945787 heimdal: fails to build, symbols don't match -> fix released [15:08] Analyzed GRUB TFTP failure: patches sent upstream (https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2021-10/msg00028.html) [15:08] [15:08] * Hinted sshuttle so openssh finally migrated \o/ [15:08] * Investigated sshuttle failure but haven't narrowed down a cause [15:08] * Re-write ubuntu-image in Go: [15:08] * All states written! [15:08] * Manually testing many scenarios (pc-amd64/classic, core18, core20, raspi) [15:08] * Big code cleanup and adding testing asserters for cleaner test functions and duplicate code reduction [15:08] * Still writing test cases, currently over 99% test coverage [15:08] * Expect to open a PR today [15:08] * Adding new --validation flag per pedronis' PR to the python ubuntu-image [15:08] [done] [15:09] doko: [15:09] - had to take a vacation day on Wed for some errands [15:09] - no-change uploads for zstd compression, fixing some fallout [15:09] (done) [15:10] are there any questions on status? [15:10] #topic Release Incoming Bugs [15:10] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-incoming-bug-tasks.html [15:11] bug 1945848 [15:11] Bug 1945848 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No Russian layout during keyboard configuration setup" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1945848 [15:12] this should be fixed please ;) [15:12] some day we'll have a flutter installer and all will be well with desktop settings [15:12] in the meantime... [15:13] eeek [15:13] okay, so let's target it and card it [15:13] Yes [15:13] Who'd be a good candidate to work on this? [15:13] any volunteers? [15:13] I could take a look, will pull in Gunnar [15:13] I have opinions but not necessarily the time [15:13] Together we will be invincible [15:14] as long as sil2100 has the time, given that he's also on point for the release [15:15] bug 1231091 [15:15] Bug 1231091 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screenreader starts, but does not work with installer (ubiquity) in live session" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231091 [15:15] that's a rather low bug number [15:15] I thought we'd talked about it before [15:15] I therefore doubt it's legit and there should've been a new bug report opened for any current issues [15:16] No, its a legit issue but one we decided wasn't really fixable [15:16] oh [15:17] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1231091/comments/9 [15:17] Launchpad bug 1231091 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screenreader starts, but does not work with installer (ubiquity) in live session" [High, Triaged] [15:18] we'll pass on that one [15:18] bug 1943077 [15:18] Bug 1943077 in squashfs-tools (Ubuntu) "snapd fails to autopkgtest on mksquashfs, which is looking for libgcc_s" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1943077 [15:19] snapd snapcraft has a fix for this, but the latest snapd upload still has the same adt failure. Perhaps the deb package portion needs a fix also. [15:20] so likely no action here for Foundations prior to release? [15:21] Yeah, I know this one, this was actually the source of the core22 build issues on impish we've been seeing [15:21] tag was added with https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1943077/comments/7 [15:21] Launchpad bug 1943077 in squashfs-tools (Ubuntu) "snapd fails to autopkgtest on mksquashfs, which is looking for libgcc_s" [Undecided, New] [15:21] is that portion of the problem release critical? [15:22] there is snapd in -proposed, does it fix this? [15:22] sadly not, unless you snap refresh snapd from edge [15:22] it's the new release they cut [15:22] hmm [15:23] in that comment #7 it says: snap (at "/snap/snapd/current") is older ("2.51.7") than distribution package ("2.53~pre1.git19b68f708") [15:23] well, unless someone thinks there are fixes needed still to squashfs-tools we should pass on this [15:23] so it's probably unrelated to the deb [15:23] I don't believe squashfs-tools changes are needed [15:23] okay so moving on then [15:23] bug 1943816 [15:23] Bug 1943816 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "'ubuntu-drivers install' needs to be used when installing nvidia-driver if enabling 'third-party packages'" [High, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1943816 [15:24] dbungert: do you want to follow up with the snapd team to check if this is supposed to be released to stable before we cut release images? [15:24] ack [15:24] I know I discussed this one previously, and suggested we want tseliot to look at it [15:24] as the primary maintainer of that package [15:25] it is assigned to him [15:25] can someone reach out to him (on European time) and check if he's working on fixing it for release? [15:26] i can do that [15:26] thanks [15:26] oh bug 1944519 was already carded [15:26] Bug 1944519 in casper (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Mate shutdown prompt is missing - system reboots at once" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944519 [15:27] I'll have a look at that today [15:27] #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html [15:27] that's empty [15:27] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html [15:27] is also empty [15:28] This bug was brought up to our attention LP: #1946001 [15:28] Launchpad bug 1946001 in linux-aws (Ubuntu Impish) "impish:linux 5.13 panic during systemd autotest" [Critical, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946001 [15:29] The release team is aware of this [15:29] #topic Team proposed-migration report [15:29] ok excellent [15:29] [LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [15:29] apport is blocking glibc, bdmurray is hinting that [15:30] sbcl is confusing, it seems to be a genuine regression but we're not sure why [15:30] if anyone here wants to dig into that, more eyes wouldn't hurt [15:30] what is sbcl? [15:30] a lisp interpreter [15:30] southwestern bell common lisp [15:31] I am amused by the backtrace, "Running (SLEEP :PRETTY-MUCH-FOREVER)" --> timed out [15:31] ginggs: ? [15:32] anyway, systemd vs linux-aws is bound to be the kernel issue described above, so ignoring [15:32] sure [15:32] we're close to release, so let's go a bit further into the 'not yet late' packages [15:32] systemd: slyon are you working on resolving the autopkgtest regressions? [15:32] yes. [15:33] snapd is the libgcc_s issue [15:33] docker might be regressed in release. I will double check both of that and file hints if needed [15:33] slyon: so are you proposing an override hint for snapd? [15:34] libdrm, not our upload; I'm hitting retry just to see and will follo wup [15:34] vorlon: probably yes. dbungert: how did you handle that issue in the past? You hinted it, right? [15:34] slyon: we skiptested the other packages, not snapd directly [15:34] doko: lvm2 is xnox's upload to fix your previous ftbfs upload, do you want to look at this? [15:34] ok [15:35] docker had / has a hint [15:35] at the time snapd still had the cgroupv2 issue so I considered that test failure vs systemd to be legit [15:35] oh, just not for amd64 [15:35] and the rest of the packages on this list are the packages doko uploaded today, so done [15:35] ugh, I'll give it a try [15:38] bdmurray: back to you [15:38] #topic AOB [15:39] Monday is a US holiday but I'm not taking it because its release week! [15:39] I am taking Monday however [15:39] ... whereas I'm taking Friday which is NOT a French holiday ;-) [15:40] I'm doing the same as bdmurray: swapping Monday for Friday [15:40] I'm swapping Monday for I don't know what yet [15:41] eka-Veteran's day [15:42] okay, thanks everbody [15:42] #endmeeting [15:42] Meeting ended at 15:42:29 UTC. Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-10-07-15.01.moin.txt [15:44] o/ [15:45] o/ === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [17:53] evening all === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [19:56] 👋 [20:00] hello @all [20:01] hello fenris [20:01] greetings [20:02] Hi all [20:02] I tried to login as merlijn-sebrechts but I keep getting "invalid credentials" [20:02] hi @galgalesh [20:02] aha [20:02] Even though I'm pretty sure I registered it on libera.chat [20:02] Hello, I need a minute to adjust my notes since you are here with a different nick [20:03] hi galgalesh [20:03] 👋🏻 [20:03] o/ [20:03] I updated my launchpad profile to also include galgalesh: https://launchpad.net/~merlijn-sebrechts [20:04] I have not chaired in a while so I may be a little slow [20:04] hi madhens [20:04] no worries :-) [20:04] Is eveeryone ready to get started? [20:04] yup [20:04] Yees [20:05] yip [20:05] yes [20:05] #startmeeting 20:00 UTC Membership Board Meeting [20:05] Meeting started at 20:05:23 UTC. The chair is Wild_Man. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:05] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [20:05] hey galgalesh - welcome! [20:06] o/ [20:06] Hello and welcome to the Membership Board meeting! [20:06] The wiki page for the Review Board is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. [20:06] If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). [20:06] Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. [20:06] During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. [20:07] You've signed the code of conduct. Did you understand everything it said and do you agree to abide by the spirit of the code of conduct? [20:07] yes [20:07] #topic galgalesh [20:08] * diddledani pokenprod the bot [20:08] galgalesh , please introduce yourself to the board, and share a link to your LP and wiki [20:08] * fenris pong the bot [20:08] It's a sleep [20:08] wiki/forum post [20:09] Yes thanks diddledani [20:09] we're still getting used to having applications via the forum :-) [20:09] Hi all! My name is Merlijn Sebrechts. I'm a contributor from Belgium. Today I'm mostly active in the snapcraft community, being a core member of snapcrafters and maintaining a bunch of desktop snaps. I used to be active in the Yaru project and the charms.reactive project. [20:09] This is my discourse post: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/merlijn-membership-application/24005 [20:10] i quite fancy the discourse thing [20:10] thanks, galgalesh , and hi :-) [20:10] =D [20:11] Thanks galgalesh, please give us a few minutes to review [20:11] so, now you're a cyborg, are you more, or less, concerned about skynet? ;-p [20:12] previous applicant writing on their wiki .. but our cyborg here write his stories on discourse :) .. fancied [20:12] Oof, good question! I think I'm more concerned now that I've given part of my essential primary functions are done using technology. [20:12] maybe @galgalesh can continue to be snapcrafter cyborg [20:13] or charmer cyborg [20:13] I can't lie, I started the Krita snap wayyyyyyy back in the day before others took it over, so if galgalesh is the maintainer now, it's almost an instant vote for me. :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: That thing was a pain back then..... [20:13] But to be serious, it looks like you have a really strong application. It is interesting to see how you have moved between different components of the Canonical ecosystem (snaps, juju, yaru, etc) . It's great to see someone staying in the ecosystem, even if interests have changed. [20:13] I love that you've got a varied portfolio of contributions. Are you likely to go back to juju or charms, or are you mostly focusing on snapcraft (like me)? [20:13] this! 👆 [20:14] I'm mostly staying in snapcraft. My contributions to charms was mostly professionally oriented, but that focus has shifted to Kubernetes. Now we just use charms to kickstart k8s. :) [20:15] sorry to ask, how many krita got on snap .. i can only see 1 .. but its published by krita [20:15] that makes sense :-) [20:15] I'm just getting started there myself professionally [20:15] maybe someone can enlighten me [20:15] galgalesh, do you have plans to broaden your contributions in the community to include helping answer questions in your free time? [20:15] Yes, I'm a contributor to the snap published by Krita. [20:15] Well it is likely that Krita was started in the snapcrafter org, then moved successfully into the Krita org. [20:16] That [20:16] +1 to @bashfulrobot for @galgalesh contribution to snaps, juju, yaru and etc [20:16] not yet, fenris ;-p [20:16] is usually the goal of a snap being started in snapcrafters, help them build, and hopefully they take over. [20:16] diddledani: not voting .. just to 2nd what @bashfulrobot said earlier [20:16] :) [20:17] * diddledani whistles nonchalantly [20:17] @bashfulrobot duly noted [20:17] * bashfulrobot sees what you did there [20:18] Wild_Man interesting question! I'm happy to teach others, although I'm not sure what the best format is. I used to be active on AskUbuntu but I stopped after some unpleasant experiences with other community members there. [20:18] you've got a hefty score on AskUbuntu! [20:18] galgalesh: with you planned improvements to desktop snaps, is the idea to be QT focused, or more in general (other toolkits, and the desktop in general) [20:18] diddledani: you beat me to clicking the link [20:18] heh [20:18] galgalesh, I understand I have not had the time to help on Ask Ubuntu in a long time now [20:19] I did review your contributions there yesterday [20:20] I would really like to improve the QT situation specifically, since that still has some pain points. I also would really like to get a better toolkit for snapping 32-bit and gtk-2 apps. Next to that, I'm maintaining and improving sommelier-core to make it easier to snap Windows applications. Might be a bit controversial though ;) [20:21] sommelier is awesome [20:21] no judgement here. right tool/right job [20:21] 👍 [20:21] You have your hands full [20:21] Ready to vote? [20:21] My ambitions are always bigger than my available time '=D [20:21] apart from myself, galgalesh seems to be the most active person in the Snapcrafters [20:22] * bashfulrobot kicks the dirt in shame [20:22] Mine to galgalesh [20:22] i am impressed [20:22] I'm ready [20:22] * fenris ready [20:22] #voters Wild_Man diddledan bashfulrobot fenris Kilos [20:22] Warning: 'diddledan' not in channel [20:22] Current voters: Kilos, Wild_Man, bashfulrobot, diddledan, fenris [20:22] hah. you got my old nick [20:22] #voters Wild_Man diddledani bashfulrobot fenris Kilos [20:22] Current voters: Kilos, Wild_Man, bashfulrobot, diddledan, diddledani, fenris [20:22] ooof.mp3 [20:23]