[06:00] [telegram] Hi! I've been testing Ubuntu 21.10 and I believe I found a bug: when you "switch applications", which by default is Super+Tab, it would not bring Nautilus to the front. It works with all other applications, but not Nautilus. However, when you "switch windows" using Alt+Tab it works fine. Can you confirm? [07:08] @jlemonde, I just did a QA-test install of ubuntu impish (gnome desktop) & don't notice what you describe (i have rhythmbox/firefox/nautilus running and switch between them equally) [07:32] [telegram] I may have narrowed it down to being due to an extension, but I don't know which nor how to find out: when I disable one by one, or when I cycle through all my extensions by only enabling a single one at a time, I always get the bug in all cases. The only way for me to not get the bug is disable all extensions. But perhaps I should restart new nautilus instances between each attempt with the extensions? [07:48] I'm not a gnome user so can't give authoritative advice. I'd ensure the extensions are intended to work with the gnome/gtk used by impish; messages may exist in logs but I'm guessing [09:18] @jlemonde: the first thing devs will ask to test is to disable extensions to debug it vanilla [09:21] @jlemonde: another idea rising to my mind is keeping a journalctl -f open, see if you can trace any issues while testing it [09:24] [telegram] Yes sorry, I narrowed it down to dash-to-panel, but earlier I failed at identifying it was due to a specific extension due to probably the fact that extensions may remain partly active after being disabled, so even if I disabled the buggy extension, the bug remained some time. May this be a Wayland thing? I am very disoriented by it not having a restart function (such as Xorg had Alt+F2 "r") [09:24] [telegram] So the above bug I mentioned has nothing to do with Ubuntu 21.10, only that this popular extension does not support GNOME 40 well. [09:27] @jlemonde: cool tnx for the testing, another handy extension from the repos you can try is workspaces to dock, i use it myself and found it pretty nice [19:09] [telegram] I've been improving Quickemu recently. With the Impish final release upon us, I thought it would be good to let you know some that Quickemu is better than ever for QA and testing. [19:10] [telegram] The project is here: https://github.com/wimpysworld/quickemu [19:10] [telegram] Here's the TL;DR for installing and using Quickemu to test Ubuntu MATE daily-live images, but all official flavours are supported. [19:11] [telegram] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:flexiondotorg/quickemu [19:11] [telegram] sudo apt install quickemu [19:11] [telegram] That will install Quickemu on Focal, Hirsute or Impish 👆 [19:12] [telegram] To create and run Ubuntu MATE daily-live do the following: [19:12] [telegram] quickget ubuntu-mate devel [19:12] [telegram] quickemu --vm ubuntu-mate-devel.conf [19:13] [telegram] Replace ubuntu-mate with the flavour you want to test. [19:14] [telegram] quickget ubuntu-mate devel will use zsync to automatically sync new daily live iso images, even if the new series becomes available. [19:14] [telegram] You can replace devel with supported final release such as focal and hirsute. [19:15] [telegram] Copy/paste and file sharing between the host and guest is also available, just add --display spice to quickemu, like this: [19:15] [telegram] `quickemu --vm ubuntu-mate-devel.conf --display spice` [19:17] [telegram] If you need macOS or Windows then Quickemu can create those VMs in the same way. [19:17] [telegram] *Windows* [19:18] [telegram] macOS [19:18] [telegram] quickget macos catalina [19:18] [telegram] quickemu --vm macos-catalina.conf