[00:44] <wirehead> Hello, I have this issue where certain apps don't play sound out my headphones
[00:44] <wirehead> how can I make all audio come out of them
[00:45] <wirehead> n/m, think I got it
[00:45] <wirehead> kinda cludgy though
[01:25] <carwash> hi everyone, does anyone have any experience with mapping 2 mice and 2 keyboards on one computer.
[05:35] <TheBigK> the answer for backported packages in lts is ppas, right?
[05:36] <TheBigK> i need a newer tar version in focal... but dont want dist-upgrade or compile it myself.. :/
[05:36] <TheBigK> i checked for ppas... but didnt find any...
[05:37] <danielssan> TheBigK: there is a reboot of the backports team, as it lay dormant for a while. but if you want something for now, you would need to find it elsewhere or compile it yourself
[05:39] <TheBigK> danielssan: what means reboot of the backports team? so theres something ongoing with that?
[05:41] <danielssan> TheBigK: the old team didn't do much in the last few lts releases, that's why it was dormant, and they started a bit ago to reboot the backporting effort. but it's still ongoing before somebody can push backports
[05:41] <danielssan> TheBigK: btw, what are you looking for as a backport
[05:41] <TheBigK> a newer tar version
[05:42] <TheBigK> im building something inside docker but tar refuses to untar it...
[05:42] <TheBigK> when i donwload that package from jenkins
[05:42] <TheBigK> with newer tar version there are no issues
[05:45] <danielssan> TheBigK: so why not just building it yourself then? it's very straightforward
[05:45] <TheBigK> i know it is... but i lose the ability to update...
[05:46] <TheBigK> i mean... automatically
[05:46] <TheBigK> i could rebuild the debian package... and update that way... mhhh
[05:46] <TheBigK> how hard is that?
[05:46] <danielssan> TheBigK: which is very likely also with a ppa (in my opinion, as you can't be sure)
[05:46] <danielssan> TheBigK: just use the impish version to rebuild oO
[05:47] <TheBigK> yeah... its not a bad idea
[05:47] <TheBigK> i give it a shot... not now... but i let u know how it went...
[05:47] <TheBigK> thanks :)
[05:48] <danielssan> TheBigK: yw
[06:10] <geirha> what's special about the tar file that tar can't extract it? also, have you tried with pax, the portable archiver?
[06:32] <alkisg> carwash: what do you mean "mapping", do you mean that there are also 2 monitors and you want two seats in one pc? That's called "multiseat"
[06:43] <polve> Hi.  My Gnome shell regularly freezes for <1 minute soon after logging in after a boot, then resumes normal operations.  I counldn't find any obvoius culprit in dmesg or journalctl.  It happens almost everyday when I start working, but then nothing bothers me all day long.  Any guesses?
[06:59] <X-MrG3P5> hello
[07:00] <makara> hi
[07:00] <X-MrG3P5> you only at here?
[07:01] <X-MrG3P5> hm
[07:02] <makara> no. There are others
[07:04] <makara> do you have a question?
[07:06] <X-MrG3P5> hello
[07:07] <darkme_> hi
[07:07] <X-MrG3P5> yo hi
[08:22] <lzig> ello
[08:23] <lzig> ?
[08:23] <lzig> why no one chat
[08:23] <lzig> :(
[08:23] <brentaarnold> Don't you know America's asleep and it's the only country in the world with internet?
[08:24] <brentaarnold> Thanks Donald
[08:24] <lzig> ohh
[08:24] <lzig> hello
[08:24] <lzig> are u bot
[08:24] <brentaarnold> bit for bot
[08:24] <lzig> or are u human being
[08:25] <lzig> anyways
[08:25] <lzig> recomend any hacking tools?
[08:45] <purpux> lzig: start with nmap, and go from there
[08:50] <agvantibo> Hello. I'm having a trouble with the default Ubuntu icon theme (Yaru) - the back to windowed mode icon is not present. I've located the issue by switching themes via gnome-tweaks (it worked and the icon was replaced), but I really like Yaru and simply switching the theme wouldn't be a solution for me. A google search of the issue yields no sensible results. Here are pictures of what happens:
[08:50] <agvantibo>  screenshot of media player that utilizes the icon - no icon with Yaru theme: https://i.imgur.com/w47Feqp.png
[08:50] <agvantibo>  screenshot of the same player in the same condition but with the Adwaita icon theme https://i.imgur.com/V971bAl.png
[08:50] <agvantibo>  Here is the system version and other stuff. My system is 100% up to date. https://i.imgur.com/rPPDUCu.png
[08:57] <Koopz> so uh... i just did a top on my new VPS
[08:58] <Koopz> and it reported that i had 32GB RAM total, 0 free, 678MB used and 32GB buff/cache
[08:58] <Koopz> not sure wether a single process is currently hogging all the RAM
[08:59] <brentaarnold> I think I woke up this morning and am going to nope out of the day.
[09:06] <Koopz> should i be worried about the 0 free and 32GB buff/cache while "available" is 32GB as well?
[10:35] <X-MrG3P5> hello
[10:35] <X-MrG3P5> anyone online at here?
[10:35] <daft> yes
[10:35] <X-MrG3P5> what are you doing bro?
[10:36] <daft> working waiting for patches
[10:37] <X-MrG3P5> patches for ubuntu?
[10:37] <daft> nope
[10:38] <daft> client from work
[10:38] <daft> you
[10:39] <X-MrG3P5> just like you
[10:39] <X-MrG3P5> but is doing maintenance
[10:39] <X-MrG3P5> and relax xD
[10:41] <X-MrG3P5> btw you only on this chat?
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[10:44] <ogra> guys, can you stop spamming please ...
[10:44] <root_____> yes sorry
[10:44] <ogra> thx
[10:44] <X-MrG3P5> okey
[10:44] <ogra> (just go to #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter)
[10:50] <Renss> #ubuntu
[10:53] <Renss> pul
[10:55] <Renss> Pul
[10:56] <BrianHechinger[m> So, nvidia 470.74 is in the repo now, but I can't actually install it on Ubuntu Studio because the packages seem to be a little out of wack. Something is still depending on 470.63. :(
[11:34] <Peanut> Hi - my desktop is on 21.04, and I've been using my Nikon DSLR camera as a webcam since the whole pandemic thing for meetings. This is done through 4vl2loopback, gphoto2 and ffmpeg. However, recently this has stopped working. Camera shutter still opens, but no video.
[11:35] <Peanut> None of the packages mentioned above seem to have had recent changes.
[11:36] <EriC^^> Peanut: try to simplify it maybe and follow it step by step to see where it goes bad
[11:37] <Peanut> EriC^^: Thanks, that does seem like a good start, it's a fairly messy setup to be honest.
[11:57] <Peanut> The problem seems to be in 'gphoto2 --capture-movie --stdout' just generating black frames.
[12:11] <Tuna-Fish> So here's a weird one: On 21.04 on a intel macbook (late 2008), ubuntu runs, but changing the display background more than once reliably hangs the machine (mouse doesn't move and no keyboard input does anything, nothing moves on screen). Machine turns off by holding power down key, then on boot the display background will have changed to what was last selected
[12:12] <Tuna-Fish> Nothing useful in logs.
[12:12] <Tuna-Fish> Anyone have any idea on how to even start figuring out what is wrong here?
[12:30] <Tuna-Fish> So, on the above, I switched out wayland for X and it still crashes, but now I retain a moving mouse pointer after the crash. Nothing is clickable, though.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> Tuna-Fish: is your graphics driver loaded?
[12:43] <Tuna-Fish> nouveau is in use
[12:44] <Tuna-Fish> the gpu is so old that I don't think there is a nVidia driver in the official repos for it
[12:44] <Tuna-Fish> 9400m
[12:44] <Tuna-Fish> is it possible to turn off all gpu processing and just use software rendering?
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> Tuna-Fish: lets have a look at; sudo lshw -C video and your dmesg in a pastebin please?
[12:52] <ioria> Tuna-Fish, and you're running Gnome3 with that card ?
[12:53] <Tuna-Fish> ioria: yes
[12:53] <ioria> ok
[12:53] <Tuna-Fish> lotuspsychje: taking a while, almost there
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> i was able to install 18.04 and 20.04 on older macbooks then that fine, so ill be curious whats the bottleneck
[12:59] <Tuna-Fish> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/Q6HxKW0X
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> Tuna-Fish: dmesg looks pretty sane overal to me, besides maybe; nouveau 0000:02:00.0: therm: temperature (90 C) hit the 'fanboost' threshold
[13:03] <Tuna-Fish> that's normal, it's a laptop that runs kinda hot
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> Tuna-Fish: maybe its worth a try to go test a non 5.11 kernel on ubuntu, and compare
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> or compare with xubuntu/lubuntu
[13:04] <Tuna-Fish> yeah
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> you see something ioria ?
[13:04] <Tuna-Fish> I take it you can't even turn compositing off in gnome3
[13:04] <Tuna-Fish> so xubuntu it probably is
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> Tuna-Fish: got any crashes in /var/crash ?
[13:06] <Tuna-Fish> yup, gnome-shell a few times
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> so maybe thats our culprit
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> Tuna-Fish: did you get a bug proposal after your crash(es)?
[13:09] <Tuna-Fish> once, hit upload, but then it crashed for good so not sure if anything was sent
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> Tuna-Fish: might be a good idea to ubuntu-bug gnome-shell and try to complete your bug file proces, see what the devs ask of your crash logs
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> Tuna-Fish: or try to invoke a new crash, and let us know the exact crash error
[13:12] <Tuna-Fish> I'll do that once the xubuntu install finishes, frankly I'm scared of doing more than one thing at a time on the machine right now
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> Tuna-Fish: well from a xubuntu you wont be able to file a gnome-shell bug, but thats up to your choice
[13:14] <Tuna-Fish> I don't have to reboot to xubuntu to file it. (to clarify, I just installed the package xubuntu-desktop)
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> ah kk
[14:52] <gneeriiloeepdeer> how can I delete a pdf's metadata? I saved some pagesof a larger pdf but if I open the file with okular, the title shown is not the file's name, but the original name
[14:58] <ioria> !info pdfarranger
[14:59] <ioria> gneeriiloeepdeer, you can try with the pkg above ^
[15:22] <tomreyn> !info mat
[15:22] <tomreyn> !info mat2
[15:22] <tomreyn> gneeriiloeepdeer: ^
[15:33] <beuys> One thing I find strange about Ubuntu is that when you try to start a program and an instance of the same software is already running, it does not start a new instance but sends you to the running instance.
[15:34] <beuys> Say you want to start a new firefox, is there a way to do that without going to a running instance of firefox and create a new window?
[15:34] <beuys> Oh, I see there is an entry in the context menu "create new window".
[15:34] <beuys> Hmm..
[15:35] <ogra> beuys, right click on the launcher icon ... there is a "new window" option
[15:35] <beuys> Ywah
[15:35] <beuys> Yeah
[15:35] <beuys> Is there a way to do it with the keys only?
[15:35] <beuys> I rarely use the mouse.
[15:35] <genii> firefox -ProfileManager    ...make a new profile
[15:35] <ioria> beuys, or Alt+F2 -> firefox -> enter
[15:35] <ogra> beuys, ctrl-n
[15:36] <ogra> (while FF is focused)
[15:36] <beuys> ogra: Sure, but I don't want to visit the other firefox.
[15:36] <beuys> ioria: Yeah, but thats a lot of key strokes. Especially if the programs name is long. Like gnome-terminal etc.
[15:36] <beuys> Ha!
[15:37] <beuys> ctrl+enter seems to work!
[15:37] <beuys> So this starts a new terminal: super t ctrl+enter.
[15:37] <beuys> That is ok :)
[15:37] <calwig> Hi people hows it going?
[15:38] <beuys> calwig: Great. Today feels like fucking a supernova that just wont stop exploding!
[15:38] <ogra> beuys, tame your language ...
[15:38] <ogra> (we try to be kids friendly etc ...)
[15:39] <beuys> ogra: He asked. I just anwered ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[15:39] <calwig> beuys: hehe
[15:39] <calwig> great
[15:41] <sadbot> Hi
[15:42] <beuys> Yay, it is SADBOT!
[15:42] <leftyfb> sadbot: hello. Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[15:43] <sadbot> Yes
[15:44] <sadbot> Why optix.  in blender is only working in ubuntu ,not in other distro ,?
[15:44] <sadbot> What ubuntu does ,i am curious
[15:45] <ogra> how would we know ? most of use here only use ubuntu
[15:45] <beuys> sadbot: What is optix?
[15:45] <ogra> *most of us
[15:45] <calwig> I use kubuntu
[15:45] <leftyfb> sadbot: if you are asking why you can only successfully run blender on ubuntu and not other distro's, that is a question for the blender project and/or the other distros
[15:45] <ogra> calwig, well, an ubuntu based distro 🙂
[15:45] <sadbot> Render method in blender ,
[15:45] <calwig> right
[15:46] <sadbot> leftyfb: oh i see ,sorry i asked here .
[16:16] <zeljko> hello everybody
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> welcome zeljko
[16:25] <zeljko> it happened, my first permanent install of kubuntu on my laptop
[16:26] <calwig> zeljko: congratulations
[16:26] <calwig> :)
[16:26] <zeljko> thx, feels good
[16:27] <calwig> I just installed Kubuntu myself on my two laptops, feels good too. Feels free
[16:28] <no_gravity> Anybody here using a taskbar in Ubuntu?
[16:29] <no_gravity> The dock makes me unproductive because it groups windows, does not show the name and does not let me sort the windows.
[16:30] <bonesofwrath> anyone running 5.14 yet?
[16:31] <leftyfb> bonesofwrath: .14 is unsupported
[16:32] <zeljko> calwig: i found finally a linux, that fit. tested zorin os, debian and others
[16:33] <calwig> zeljko: there's hundreds of flavors, unlike Windows there's only one acid flavor
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> no_gravity: im using workspaces to dock extension, works great to sort windows
[16:33] <no_gravity> lotuspsychje: Let me look that up ...
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-shell-extension-workspaces-to-dock | no_gravity
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[16:35] <no_gravity> Googling it I see "THIS EXTENSION IS NO LONGER MAINTAINED/DEVELOPED"
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> its on repos for 20.04 still
[16:36] <zeljko> calwig: yes, i know, a bit overwhelming
[16:37] <calwig> zeljko: I'm just shocked that I cant get to the BIOS on the laptops anylonger unless I boot from Windows 10 to USB via the restore option on the settings menu. Its insane
[16:37] <no_gravity> lotuspsychje: I am also not sure if it would be the right thing for me.
[16:38] <no_gravity> Googling around it seems there is no good taskbar for Ubuntu.
[16:53] <jakob> Hello world
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> welcome jakob
[17:06] <world> Hello jakob
[17:14] <dfdn> two questions: why ubuntu died, and why apt is hanging for a couple of minutes after each operation?
[17:15] <dfdn> in particular, "apt-check" and "lsb_release" seems to be cpu hogs
[17:36] <jmiahjones> no_gravity: I don't use a taskbar, but I also don't use the dock to "find" windows, either. Its only purpose is to let me know if I have an app launched or not. I find in Gnome it makes a lot of sense to spread out over multiple workspaces and search for windows using the Super key, or by just paging through the workspaces.
[17:37] <jmiahjones> This workflow isn't very useful for small screens though. Just my $.02.
[17:53] <dfdn> also, why ubuntu does something in the internet while apt is working?
[18:02] <dfdn> there is like 30 connections to canonical servers
[18:03] <dfdn> and they are protected somehow from knowing what is connecting
[18:11] <donofrio> How do I take multiple scrolling page down screenshot?
[18:11] <donofrio> grafana makes some long pages of awesome graphs
[18:20] <t3nj1n> just vertical?
[18:38] <dfdn> is there anyone here?
[18:40] <JamesFerret> Yeah?
[18:41] <dfdn> two questions: why ubuntu died, and why apt is hanging for a couple of minutes after each operation?
[18:41] <donofrio> t3nj1n, yah
[18:41] <dfdn> also, why ubuntu does something in the internet while apt is working?
[18:42] <dfdn> there is like 30 connections to canonical servers
[18:42] <JamesFerret> okay by died you mean?
[18:42] <JamesFerret> like unresponsive?
[18:44] <dfdn> "apt-check" and "lsb_release" use 100% cpu
[18:44] <scriptonaut> hey all, I installed ubuntu 20.04 mate on my acer swift 3, most things work but there is no soundcard detected, it just says "dummy output". Apparently this is a bug that's been reported but even after trying everything I can find it still can't find my soundcard
[18:45] <scriptonaut> anyone else heard of this?
[18:45] <JamesFerret> that's not necessarily odd as long as it doesn't keep that percentage
[18:45] <JamesFerret> is it like that for a prolonged amount of time
[18:45] <JamesFerret> ?
[18:49] <dfdn> a minute or 2
[18:50] <JamesFerret> oh okay
[18:50] <JamesFerret> Someone here is hopefully more knowledgeable than me but that's not necessarily a problem as long as everything clears up in the end
[18:51] <JamesFerret> I've grown somewhat accustomed to occasional chokeholds but they usually don't persist
[18:51] <JamesFerret> Your next apt operation will almost definitely be quicker
[18:51] <JamesFerret> Besides that, you may look into your apt mirror
[18:52] <JamesFerret> Maybe there are issues there
[18:59] <tomreyn> dfdn: which ubuntu version is this?
[19:00] <dfdn> 21.04
[19:00] <donofrio> anyone know what tool I use to capture vertial full three page down screenshots?
[19:00] <tomreyn> dfdn: which kernel? how much ram?
[19:00] <tomreyn> dfdn: did it work fine previously? when did this change?
[19:00] <dfdn> sometimes around 2018
[19:01] <tomreyn> dfdn: which of the last three questions is this the answer to?
[19:01] <dfdn> kernel 5.3.0
[19:01] <tomreyn> * 4 questions
[19:01] <dfdn> apt issues that is
[19:01] <dfdn> canonical issue i noticed today
[19:05] <tomreyn> dfdn: have you rebooted since?
[19:05] <dfdn> since 2018?
[19:06] <tomreyn> you provided some answers, but it's not clear which of those were in response to which of my questions, so i am guessing
[19:06] <tomreyn> i don't know what a "canonical issue" is.
[19:08] <tomreyn> dfdn: it's difficult ot work with this amount of info, but we can try. let's start with this:   dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:09] <tomreyn> this should return a http address, please post it here
[19:10] <dfdn> I cannot unless I can stop audit events from getting there
[19:10] <tomreyn> why is that?
[19:10] <dfdn> because they contain the stuff in my homedir
[19:11] <tomreyn> are you saying you're worried about exposing sensitive info?
[19:12] <dfdn> oh I suppose I just grep them out
[19:13] <tomreyn> these audit messages may be indications for what's causing the slowdown, though
[19:13] <ogra> there should not be any sensible data in dmesg really (the MAC address is probably the most here)
[19:14] <sarnold> probably apparmor messages
[19:16] <wrsuser> OK so I just compared the packages you get with a 'server install' and those you get with a minimal install of regular ubuntu desktop
[19:16] <wrsuser> *NOT* to see what ubuntu desktop had in addition.... but instead to see what ubuntu server had in addition!
[19:17] <wrsuser> And it adds in a whole whole of completely useless and presumptive junk
[19:17] <wrsuser> Surely there has to be a better way of having a REALLY minimal install than this subiquity server install rubbish!?
[19:17] <sarnold> wrsuser: you may prefer to use debootstrap
[19:17] <dfdn> https://termbin.com/84m9
[19:17] <wrsuser> something that doesn't have an expectation of usage at all
[19:18] <wrsuser> sarnold, except that's not really in the form of an ISO in anyway
[19:18]  * dbungert ponders adjusting highlights
[19:18] <tomreyn> dfdn: why are you running a 2019 kernel?
[19:19] <dfdn> idk it just works
[19:19] <tomreyn> do you not try to install updates, or do they just fail to install?
[19:20] <dfdn> kernel is not updated by updates
[19:20] <tomreyn> dfdn: this is a VM, does it actually need to be fixed?
[19:21] <jimklo> got a question not necessarily Ubuntu... but my problem is happening on Ubuntu... I have one user on the system trying to launch firefox using X11 forwarding, firefox just hangs and does nothing, I can log in as other users and run firefox and it works fine.  Anyone have any thoughts what might be causing this?
[19:21] <dfdn> no, until some new ubuntu version broke the apt in a way I described
[19:22] <leo__> hi
[19:22] <tomreyn> dfdn: well, this could be related to running a massively outdated kernel image
[19:23] <tomreyn> dfdn: maybe the easiest approach is to backup and reinstall?
[19:25] <dfdn> well i could to try
[19:29] <jmiahjones> wrsuser: On differences between minimal and server installs: https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/t/do-you-recommend-using-minimal-ubuntu-with-lxd-containers/9532/7
[19:29] <jmiahjones> The link in that thread: https://askubuntu.com/questions/44185/is-using-ubuntu-minimal-any-different-from-server
[19:30] <wrsuser> it really won't be telling me anything I haven't already figured out
[19:30] <wrsuser> it just stinks is all
[19:31] <wrsuser> I tried the 20.04 mini.iso first (however unsupported it is or is not)... and I'm tempted to go back to it and just fix whatever it forgets to do before rebooting
[19:31] <wrsuser> as it installs a seemingly booting system... yet the screen is black until you hit the power button and then you see the purple text ubuntu screen briefly as it shuts down
[19:31] <t3nj1n> @donofrio, is it running in a program or is it running in a browser
[19:31] <wrsuser> but it's got to be MILES better than the this server-live/subiquity crap
[19:32] <jmiahjones> Cool, glad you figured it out though! If you really want to go that deep into configuring a really minimal system, knock yourself out.
[19:32] <jmiahjones> The gift and and the curse is that you may end up breaking some basic functionality that you'll have to un-break later.
[19:33] <t3nj1n> @donofrio, if its running in a browser just install a full-page screenshot extension
[19:33] <wrsuser> https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/04/30/002245
[19:33] <jmiahjones> Not that that's really different from regular use, hah. wrsuser: Might I ask what problems you have with subiquity?
[19:33] <wrsuser> AH! "even if there's no prompt ALT-F2 works (switching to single-user mode), then you can login"
[19:34] <wrsuser> jmiahjones, it is too presumptuous in installing a load of stuff you might never need
[19:34] <wrsuser> and it's frickin huge
[19:34] <brainswithballs> Love this guys, keep going
[19:34] <wrsuser> and it's not as easy to use as the normal debian-installer ... looks like something gentoo would use 20 years ago
[19:34] <wrsuser> in short... over engineered
[19:37] <jmiahjones> wrsuser: It seems like it comes down to preference. Yeah, minimal it is not. But it simplifies things for people who aren't too concerned with some extra config and would rather subiquity just "figure it out."
[19:38] <jmiahjones> Have you thought about using cloud-init/ansible on top of a base image to deploy a minimal system?
[19:44] <dfdn> lmao I just deleted lsb_release and apt is fast again
[19:47] <supersickle> q
[19:55] <donofrio> t3nj1n, that worked found one for edge called GoFullPage made the perfect png
[20:01] <jason> hi
[20:29] <jason> hello red queen
[20:48] <Sqaure> A question about 18.04. I have a docker installation of version 20.10.7 that has a known problem with it. I believe ive installed it from default PPA's. Im wondering if there is some trick to get a newer version. Where would you look?
[20:48] <Sqaure> (im generally a bit "weak" on package handling. Seldom do trickery in fear of messing up my OS)
[20:50] <sarnold> can you rephrase the question?
[20:51] <Sqaure> sarnold, Which part is unclear?
[20:52] <sarnold> Sqaure: all of it :)
[20:54] <Sqaure> i run ubuntu 18.04. Have docker 20.10.7 installed which has a known problem to it but is default PPA's max version. How would you try to install 20.10.8 (or a whatever package of higher version that default PPA's dont carry) under these conditions?
[20:55] <Sqaure> sarnold, ^
[20:55] <sarnold> Sqaure: aha :) thanks; you could email / file a bug report against your docker package, and ask whoever has packaged it to either fix the bug, or package the newer version
[20:56] <Sqaure> sarnold, how do i find out who has packaged it?
[20:57] <sarnold> Sqaure: apt policy <packagename> will tell you the ppa name you used to install it
[20:58] <sarnold> Sqaure: there's also a newer docker snap available, but i don't know the consequences of switching from a deb to the snap https://snapcraft.io/docker
[20:58] <Sqaure> yeah, that confueses the hell out of me.
[21:01] <Sqaure> output of apt policy : https://paste.ofcode.org/35sAp5MUk3AHLQEq9ZbwSFH
[21:01] <sarnold> oh! so no ppas involved :) that's just the standard docker package
[21:01] <Sqaure> so how do I go from there to find package maintainer
[21:01] <sarnold> ubuntu-bug docker.io   should do the trick
[21:03] <Sqaure> that doesnt let me describe the problem and how to fix it?
[21:04] <Sqaure> Theres a fine description of the problem in a github issue.
[21:04] <sarnold> sure, it'll give you an url towards the end of hte process
[21:04] <sarnold> you can link in the github issue there
[21:04] <Sqaure> ah ok
[21:13] <Sqaure> yay. ive reported my first bug i believe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/docker.io/+bug/1946397
[21:18] <sarnold> Sqaure: sweet! thanks :D
[21:24] <sagar_> hello
[21:28] <sagar_> hello
[23:10] <jcbjoe2021> is it required to learn dpkg or aptitutde while using ubuntu?
[23:12] <jeremy31> J v
[23:12] <jeremy31> jcbjoe2021: not really
[23:16] <jcbjoe2021> ok thanks, where is the package manager for ubuntu, looking and can't find it. i know of apt and aptitude. looking for a gui
[23:23] <sarnold> jcbjoe2021: try gnome-software ?
[23:23] <jcbjoe2021> ok
[23:26] <jcbjoe2021> ok thanks sarnold