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guigui-80bs y a t'il quelqu'un,00:08
yukiup21.10 is almost out! ~0-0~00:13
srvout of contention00:14
srv:)00:14
guiggui01bon soir tous le monde00:19
srvi dint speak french00:20
guiggui01ok00:20
srvi dont *00:20
guigui-80bs tous le mondes00:28
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survivor303is archive.ubuntu.com down?01:13
sarnoldsurvivor303: it seems to be working for me01:13
survivor303hmm odd, from me (finland) no pings, no nothing. 91.189.88.14201:14
survivor30391.189.88.152 same01:15
sarnoldhttps://termbin.com/ut4q01:15
survivor303im coming also from cloudflare dns :/01:16
sarnoldsurvivor303: can you grab an mtr --report to that IP address? there might be something closer to us than to you01:16
survivor303nothing at all01:17
survivor303193.166.3.5 goes down as well01:28
survivor303impish Release 40401:28
survivor303this isnt look nice at all01:29
survivor303something happening01:29
lotuspsychjeTuna-Fish: checkout bug #194641102:05
ubottuBug 1946411 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Glitchy/freezing desktop caused by opening app launcher group" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194641102:05
kerberhi there03:36
kerberhi03:36
kerberjust a quick question regarding ubuntu's advantages and something about upgrades03:36
kerberi see there are many distros, but ubuntu by far most popular. what is the clear advantage except easy install? more support?03:37
kerberis there a reason companies prefer to use ubuntu over other distros (even debian)?03:37
kerberand another - how stable are upgrades between LTS versions (not clean isntalls, but upgrades)03:38
toddcubuntu is one of the few to offer paid support03:39
toddclts is stable non lts are more of a testing 9 months of support lts can be as long as 7 years of support03:41
toddcREHL must be built on redhat with support Ubuntu can be built tested and support can be added at anytime if needed03:42
toddcubuntu has a great community good docs and comuntity support and paid support  lotsd of guides are writtten for ubuntu based systems03:44
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zappa35i installed yaru-themes, but where do i put the commands to enable them?05:28
zappa35i mean yaru-colors05:31
danielssanzappa35: you can choose in the gnome-tweaks tool05:32
zappa35they do not show up in the tweaks tool05:33
zappa35i tried unsuccesfully on 20.04 and now 21.0405:34
danielssanzappa35: so how did you install them?05:34
zappa35via ubuntu software app05:35
zappa35it says to enable them i do a list of commands but i dont know where to put them05:35
danielssanjust in the normal terminal05:36
zappa35that shows errors such as not recognizing do as a command05:36
zappa35is it proper to copy n paste the readout from terminal here?05:37
danielssancan you paste what you put into the terminal on paste.ubuntu.com and give the url you get?05:37
danielssan(incl the output)05:38
zappa35ok brb05:38
zappa35https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/H6jnGb54Yj/05:44
danielssanzappa35: and what is the output?05:45
zappa35bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'05:46
danielssanhm the only thing i do say, is that you need to remove the yaru-colors in front05:47
danielssanbut otherwise it should work05:47
zappa35when i do that, it doesnt output an error however the colors dont show in the tweaks tool05:50
danielssanzappa35: did you relogin or reboot in betwen?05:50
danielssanbetween*05:50
danielssanthere shouldn't be any output when doing it right ;)05:51
zappa35no, should i?05:52
danielssanyes :)05:52
zappa35ok brb and thank you05:52
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danielssanzappa35: etiquette is that you don't randomly write people a private message05:59
zappa35i apologize, i was intending to do that with the pm, as i noticed it was possible06:01
danielssanzappa35: can you verify that user themes is active in gnome-extensions-app06:04
zappa35it is and says default06:05
danielssanzappa35: i am out of ideas, but am reading a bit right now06:11
zappa35thank you. i'm continuing to google06:12
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HashHey07:49
HashWhat happened to 20.04 ubuntu07:49
HashI can't find mysql-workbench in there07:49
Hashhttps://dev.mysql.com/downloads/file/?id=505956 I get it from here i guess07:52
yangleihey07:57
yangleiHi07:57
yangleihaha07:57
yanglei有人吗???08:00
yanglei有没有人哦?08:00
yanglei我现在在用Lubuntu08:00
yanglei哈哈08:01
yanglei咿呀咿呀哟08:01
tomreynHash: the package had been dropped off debian due to unsatisfiable build-depends according to https://tracker.debian.org/news/943250/mysql-workbench-removed-from-testing/ and https://bugs.debian.org/867943 - resulting in https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&exact=1&keywords=mysql-workbench08:33
ubottuDebian bug 867943 in src:mysql-workbench "mysql-workbench: Build-Depends on deprecated libgnome-keyring-dev" [Serious, Open]08:33
locsmifHi all. Anybody any idea why needrestart(1) is acting all wonky lately and keeps telling me that chrome, kwin, plasmashell, phpstorm, jetbrains, etc. are running outdated binaries? They're not and nothing even remotely related was updated. (I installed perl's JSON library monents ago, and nothing of that touches any of the listed binaries)08:40
no_gravityWhen I start nautilus from the command line like "nautilus /some/path" it opens that path. But when I put "Exec=nautilus --new-window /some/path" into /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop" it still opens the users home dir. Why is that?08:44
yangleiasd09:01
polveHi.  I would like to assign ‘<Shift><Super>f’ as a shortcut, but Gnome doens't let me. I've checked with `(for schema in $(gsettings list-schemas); do gsettings list-recursively $schema; done)` but it's not there.  Any ideas why?09:03
yangleiasd09:05
lotuspsychjepolve: check with dconf-editor perhaps if you can find values there?09:34
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iomari891greetings, I booted into a live distro and did a dd disk to disk copy of my ubuntu hd with no errors reported.  But when I replace the source with the clone and boot, I get "no operating system found". I thought a  dd copy was an exact replica. What could I have done wrong?09:46
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spookleysad09:50
tomreyniomari891: did you clone a or multiple partitions, a complete disk, or something else?09:50
iomari891complete drive10:00
iomari891dd if=/dev/sda of=dev/sdb10:01
lotuspsychjeiomari891: was the disk running or did you use external media or sata docks or so?10:01
iomari891booted from a live usb. Bot disks were not mounted10:01
iomari891both10:01
iomari891system is a laptop10:02
iomari8912 drives installed10:03
guiverciomari891, if both drives have the same image, they won't have unique UUIDs & thus no boot maybe expected10:04
iomari891would the uuid cause the drive not to even be recognized at all?10:05
iomari891if so, what;s the point of cloning if I can't boot the clone?10:06
guivercif two drives have the same ID; the BIOS/firmware of the machine is likely to ignore both disks (UUID is supposed to be unique; it can mean faulty hardware where ignoring the device(s) is a logical move)10:06
iomari891i removed the source disk after cloning.10:06
guivercyou clone so should one fail; you've got a replacement to plug in when needed10:07
iomari891no, I cloned to a larger drive cause i needed mor space.10:07
iomari891more10:07
tomreyndid you try to make the additional space usable, though? and if so, how?10:09
iomari891I'll increase the last partition after I can't get the drive to boot. Right now the extra space is unformatted.10:10
iomari891after I can10:10
tomreynis this system booting in uefi or bios mode?10:11
iomari891i can see all content on all partitions from the live usb boot medium.10:11
tomreynand do those disks have am MBR or GPT partition table?10:12
iomari891If I have to reclone, is there a bullet proof method?10:12
alkisgiomari891: GPT stores the second partition table at the end of the disk, so after dd, you'll need to realign it with gdisk or gparted10:17
alkisgIt's usually a message like "your secondary gpt is invalid, fix it? <y>"10:17
Paddy_NIHey I just bought an nvidia gtx 1030 and I am wondering what the recommended driver installation method is?10:17
alkisgOther than that, the plain dd should work in any case10:18
iomari891alkisg: Thanks, I did that already.10:18
Paddy_NIDo I use the graphics-drivers/ppa?10:18
lotuspsychjePaddy_NI: ubuntu-drivers list will reccomend you10:18
iomari891That;s what I thought but "No operating system found"10:18
lotuspsychjePaddy_NI: we see that ubuntu's nvidia driver versions are pretty equaly to the graphics drivers ppa these days10:19
Paddy_NIlotuspsychje: Cheers, it has recommended 7 by the looks of it10:19
Paddy_NIDo I just choose the higher number :-)10:20
lotuspsychjePaddy_NI: well usualy it reccomends a best driver, and next to it all the supported drivers for your card10:20
tomreyniomari891: if this is a uefi system,    sudo efibootmgr -v    may explain why it fails to boot10:20
lotuspsychjePaddy_NI: so ubuntu-drivers autoinstall 'should' give you the most reccomended10:21
Paddy_NIlotuspsychje: That's really nice, thank you :-)10:21
lotuspsychjePaddy_NI: in reality the best driver for your card, would be the one performing best to your own experience10:22
iomari891tomreyn: sudo efibootmgr -v:  EFI variables are not supported on this system10:23
Paddy_NIlotuspsychje: True, I *think* it installed the 470 version. Not sure which of the 470's it installed though. I suppose I just reboot?10:24
lotuspsychjePaddy_NI: yeah reboot, if you result into a black screen, see !nomodeset10:26
Gwalennhi, for Ubuntu tweaks, does I need to make .icons .cursors .themes in my home or I can groupe .themes/cursors .themes/icons ?10:26
Paddy_NIlotuspsychje: Annoyingly I cannot use the hdmi port on this card due to the design of this pc case ;-(  I will need to keep my eyes open for some sort of adapter with an incredibly narrow, right angle adapter.10:26
Paddy_NIlotuspsychje: Cool10:27
Paddy_NIbrb10:27
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tomreyniomari891: so at least the OS you ran this on did not boot in UEFI mode.10:29
tomreyniomari891: another possible cause for this error message you quoted is a buggy / outdated Lenovo BIOS, as well as an incorrect setting for SATA/AHCI/Intel RST mode in BIOS.10:30
nikolamI think that memory tester that is hipped with Ubuntu/Xubuntu ISO images is broken for quite some time. On dozen machines over a large period of time, Memtest86 simply freezes after starting the RAM test...10:31
nikolamshipped10:31
nikolamMaybe or not it has something to do , Ubuntu images are shipping Memtest86+ 5.01 and latest version seems to be 5.31b10:33
tomreyn"This build is not ready for production yet, because it lacks some feedbacks from beta-testers."10:35
Paddy_NI!nomodeset > Paddy_NI10:38
ubottuPaddy_NI: Please see my private message10:38
locsmifAnybody any idea if needrestart is broken in Hirsute? It appears to be...10:41
Linux^hey10:58
iomari891greetings, I just noticed that my cloned disk is gpt after cloning but my source is mbr. CAn I change the clone to mbr without destroying it?11:12
tomreynif you cloned the full disk including partition table, as you stated initially, then the target would have the same partition table as the source.11:17
tomreynnote that MBR has a partition size limit of 2.2 TB.11:20
Avago_BroadqualDo I need to worry about any gotchas on a Ubuntu Server 18.04 -> 20.04 upgrade if I am using LXC/LXD + LXDUI?11:38
Avago_BroadqualThis is on ppc6el11:38
Avago_Broadqualppc64el&11:39
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tomreynAvago_Broadqual: you may want to    /join #ubuntu-server11:50
Avago_Broadqualtomreyn will do, thanks!11:50
locsmifAnybody any idea if needrestart is broken in Hirsute? It appears to be...12:17
locsmifHmm12:39
quickquestionHello, everyone! Any idea why my window managers might have stopped auto-completing file/folder names in the address bar? (Google gives me random results about various programs.)12:54
BluesKajHi folks13:03
no_gravityOMG it is BluesKaj!13:03
BluesKajhi no_gravity13:05
no_gravityBluesKaj: Yo!13:05
no_gravityDoes anybody know if you can you use lo setup to crate a named loopback like "losteup /dev/myloop /some/file"? Or does it have to be /dev/loop..0-9..?13:05
aslanhow to create a file and view what's inside it through the terminal13:23
no_gravityaslan: "a view"?13:24
aslantxt13:25
no_gravityecho hello > my.txt; cat my.txt13:25
aslanthanks13:26
no_gravityMy pleasure13:26
cart_manSo is there some Canonical employees in this channel?13:31
aslanI also wanted to ask how to put the calendar of the whole year in this file and view it13:32
lotuspsychjecart_man: what are you looking for exactly?13:34
cart_manI was just curious13:39
lotuspsychjecart_man: in every channel there are canonical employees doing their part of the job13:42
Mekaneckcart_man: i don't think there are canonical employees in the channels, only volunteers and ubuntu members13:59
Mekaneckand some developers14:00
ravageim sure that is not his actual question. lets wait for that :)14:01
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Mekaneckravage: if he had a support question he'd asked it by now i guess :)14:03
leftyfbthere are typically multiple Canonical employees in a lot of the ubuntu channels. Though they aren't the majority of the people volunteering their help. They are also not paid to do support here, so the fact that they work for Canonical doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things14:03
Mekanecktrue14:04
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cart_manMekaneck:  ravage: haha no it was. I recently took an interest in working at canonical14:13
cart_manleftyfb: ^^14:13
leftyfbcart_man: feel free to apply. It's really offtopic here though14:13
cart_manleftyfb: yea totally.  Take top notch only so14:14
Mekaneckcart_man: it's offtopic here since it's a Ubuntu support channel but have a look at https://canonical.com/careers/all14:14
Mekaneckotherwise move the conversation to #ubuntu-discuss :)14:14
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Donald_Hello guys, can Ubuntu 20.04 LTS install Gnome 40?15:56
ioriamaybe with gnome-boxes15:56
lotuspsychjeDonald_: its usualy not a good idea to mix package versions across ubuntu releases15:57
Donald_I see.15:57
danielssanDonald_: you could wait a few days for 21.10 which has gnome40 (if you want to jump off the LTS train)15:58
Mekaneckor install the Beta/RC of 21.1015:59
lotuspsychjevirtualbox or gnome-box like ioria says15:59
Mekaneckshould be stable enough and you just can keep updating it to the final release15:59
Mekaneckup to you Donald_ ^16:00
Donald_The latest Ubuntu uses Wayland instead of Xrog, right?16:00
MekaneckDonald_: depends16:00
Mekaneckif you have nVidia it switches to Xorg16:00
Donald_Ok, I have Nvidia GPU.16:01
MekaneckXorg it is then :)16:01
Donald_Noted. Thanks.16:01
MrMobiusim trying to mount two usb drives at once. do i basically assign a different folder for each port?17:01
EriC^^MrMobius: clicking on them in the file manager should automatically mount them at /media/user/ID-here17:02
MrMobiusEriC^^, thanks a lot. i have a server im logging into with a terminal17:02
EriC^^you could manually do 'sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mountpoint'17:02
MrMobiuswill that stay mounted between restarts?17:03
EriC^^no17:03
EriC^^you'd need to add them to /etc/fstab17:03
MrMobiusok i can figure that out. i think i had the same thing with my hdd and added it17:03
MrMobiusis there a /dev/sdxY for each usb port or could i get the same id from inserting a drive on a different port if nothing else is plugged in?17:04
EriC^^MrMobius: you want to use the uuid of the filesystem so it never changes17:04
EriC^^(in fstab)17:05
MrMobiusEriC^^, hmm I was hoping to have something setup where I had a folder or folders mapped to usb and any random usb plugged in will be accessible through one of them17:05
MrMobiusunless that's not really feasible17:06
EriC^^MrMobius: that's doable, you'd need to add some udev rule for usb hdds i guess, and have it mounted in one of the folders17:06
EriC^^i'd guess some udev rule -> runs your script, sees which folder to mount and mounts17:07
jcbjoe2021Is there like a comprehensive guide on dpkg. I’m on google and I’m bookmarking but just wondered if this channel had any input17:12
jcbjoe2021?17:12
EriC^^jcbjoe2021: none that i know of, although the guys in #debian might have something handy17:12
lotuspsychjejcbjoe2021: https://linuxconfig.org/beginners-guide-to-dpkg-linux-command17:13
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bancroftis there a way to check why cloud-init would fail a "check" step?17:18
MrMobiusEriC^^, thanks17:36
EriC^^no problem MrMobius17:36
jcbjoe2021i keep getting a notification saying my network was disconencted and it flashes on and off, how do i stop this?17:42
leftyfbjcbjoe2021: replace your network cable or device it's plugged into17:52
leftyfbjcbjoe2021: look in the "dmesg" log when it happens. If the link is just going down, then it's not an issue with the driver or the OS. It will be a hardware issue17:55
jcbjoe2021leftyfb: im connected via wifi17:59
jcbjoe2021it randomly popus up and goes away18:01
lotuspsychjejcbjoe2021: whats your wifi chipset on wich kernel please18:03
jcbjoe2021lotuspsychje: brb i gotta take my kid to driver test =) hope he passes18:04
lotuspsychjekk later18:04
cbreakso... 6 days it seems18:09
cbreakto 21.1018:09
lotuspsychje!party18:11
ubottuPlease remember that our support channels are for technical support and not general chat. To countdown to !impish release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party. Thank you! :)18:11
cbreakvery useful.18:11
lotuspsychjeoh still small party :p18:11
cbreakare the packages on https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/ final?18:12
Leoneofhey cbreak!18:12
cbreakgood evening unknown person18:12
Leoneof:\18:13
cbreakstill stuck on a 2.0.x ZFS, and a 1.2.x syncthing :(18:14
danielssancbreak: yeah because of debian18:16
cbreakubuntu's still debian based?18:16
cbreakinteresting18:16
lotuspsychje!discuss18:17
ubottuWant to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!18:17
electrostrongHey all - what IRC client do you use?  I use HexChat and it's reconnect features are pretty lame...18:43
no_gravityGood Evening. Is powertop still en vogue to tune the power settings of a machine runnint Ubuntu 20.04?18:44
mcnaveenyes. it works for me. I'm using TLP + Powertop18:45
no_gravitymcnaveen: What is TLP?18:46
cbreakelectrostrong: hexchat kind of works. I use it via ZNC in an LXC Container18:46
cbreak(I use the same ZNC from other systems with other clients too)18:46
electrostrongthanks cbreak - might try that too - just looking for something that has more capabilities and some nice macro scripts I can use18:47
mcnaveenTLP is a battery optimization utility.18:47
no_gravitymcnaveen: What does it do?18:48
mcnaveenWell, it optimize your battery and increase the life. with tlp i can see long battery life.18:48
no_gravitymcnaveen: How does it do that?18:49
mcnaveenno gravity: you can install with `sudo apt install tlp`18:50
mcnaveenplease google for more info :)18:50
no_gravityOk18:51
mcnaveen:)18:51
no_gravityOne could write a script that loops through "apt-cache search ." and installs every package available.18:52
no_gravityThen one would have a complete ubuntu installation.18:52
no_gravityIt's probably possible to do that in a bash oneliner.18:53
mcnaveenhaha. that would be cool. you can try -  #dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | awk '{print S1}' > package.lst18:54
mcnaveenfor restoring: #aptitude install -y $(cat package.lst)18:55
no_gravitymcnaveen: "#dkpg --get-selections"?18:55
geniiThe last time I checked mirroring all the repositories was around 40G18:56
yukiup40g?18:57
geniiAround there18:57
mcnaveenI have seen few people using a tool called "Aptik" for this purpose18:57
mcnaveenhttps://github.com/teejee2008/aptik-gtk18:57
C0nundrumMy installation crashes everytime I do this. I ran an fsck and everything passes18:59
C0nundrumhttps://gist.github.com/dragonpiper/bc73ec3a8c4acac69d5c894caa07e77518:59
Gwalennhi, when you add a directory to $PATH and later you create a subdirectory inside, is it included directly to $PATH ?19:00
no_gravityIt seems this oneliner works: apt-cache search . | awk '{print $1}' | xargs -n 1 apt install -y19:00
cbreakGwalenn: it's not recursive, I think19:02
cbreakbut the directory itself is added19:03
cbreakso if you had ~/bin/xy/app, and have ~/bin in $PATH, then you can start it via xy/app19:04
cbreakat least with zsh :)19:04
mcnaveenC0nundrum: Did you tried after restarting?19:04
C0nundrumYes19:05
Gwalenncbreak, ok. I tried to understand why my digikam.desktop launcher doesn't works19:05
C0nundrumThe screen just freezes there19:05
geniino_gravity: Apt-cache search will not return some package names. Like for instance libstdc++-5-dev19:05
tomreynC0nundrum: you have kernel images for google cloud, azure, aws, a recent mainline kernel, and the GA kernel of ubuntu 18.04 installed. why?this system won't match all of this. for 18.04 LTS, you probably want the HWE kernel, maybe the GA kernel.19:05
cbreakGwalenn: aren't desktop files for the GUI?19:06
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genii..but if you actually check with apt-cache policy it will tell you it's there19:06
C0nundrumI'm not sure why. one of the reasons linux annoys me. Its just an ubuntu installation with docker installed and some other packages19:06
GwalennI created .local/share "applications" folder and create inside the digikam.desktop file but not working19:06
cbreak$PATH is an environment variable. It only applies to individual processes. And your GUI might as well have a different $PATH than you have in your shell19:06
tomreynC0nundrum: if this is the same Virtualbox VM you discussed about yesterday, then check dmesg on this VM as well as OS kernel / system logs on the host system for media errors.19:07
fenhaxwhenever i use the 'reboot' command, the kernel panics and when close my pc and open again, "dixRegisterPrivateKey: Assertion !global_keys[type].created' failed." shows up. help?19:08
tomreynC0nundrum: and you won't need backport-iwlwifi-dkms in a VM, this is an intel wireless driver19:09
C0nundrumOh this isn't the same vm. I fixed that one and its stable it seems19:09
C0nundrumThis is a linux installation on a amd based pc i have19:09
tomreynso what about those kernels?19:09
no_gravitygenii: Oh man. So after installing 56k packages, I will still not have a complete Ubuntu?19:10
C0nundrumI think some built in tool that manages kernals automatically downloaded them or something19:10
C0nundrumHow can i clean that stuff up19:11
geniino_gravity: You will still not have instralled every package that is available to install, coorect.19:11
C0nundrumis there a tool that helps with it19:11
genii*correct19:11
tomreynfenhax: which ubuntu versio is this, which kernel version, which hardware and BIOS version?19:11
no_gravitygenii: How will I ever feel complete ...19:11
tomreynC0nundrum: start with    apt list --installed linux-*19:12
tomreynC0nundrum: identify those you don't need / want, then    sudo apt purge <packagename>    them. you can list multiple <packagename>'s separated by spaces19:13
tomreynno_gravity: what's oyour use case for ubuntu with all available packages installed?19:13
tomreynfenhax: lsb_release -ds && cat /proc/{version_signature,cmdline} && journalctl -b | grep DMI:19:15
oerheksNowadays ubuntu removes old kernels with the next update19:15
no_gravitytomreyn: I can't afford a Mercedes with all available extras. So I thought I run an Ubuntu with all available packages.19:15
oerheksso, that tool exists19:15
tomreynno_gravity: i would not claim that this is a balanced comparison19:16
no_gravitytomreyn: Don't you think Ubuntu is the Mercedes Benz of Linux distros?19:17
tomreynno_gravity: i think you're comparing apples and oranges19:17
tomreynand that this desn't desribe a use case.19:17
C0nundrumugh its not booting gotta trobleshoot that in a sec19:18
C0nundrumIn the meantime , how do i clear  *** /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv should be checked for errors ***19:18
fenhaxtomreyn tomreyn 5.11.0-37, ubuntu 20.04, DMI: Acer Nitro AN515-57/Scala_TLS, BIOS V1.05 06/10/202119:18
C0nundrumi tried fsck already19:18
no_gravitytomreyn: You compare my comparison of Mercedes and Ubuntu with a comparison of Apples and Oranges? I think that is a bicylce to shoe comparison.19:18
tomreynfenhax: and non default kernel parameters (cmdline, you omitted this info)?19:19
tomreyn*any19:19
fenhaxtomreyn: what do you mean?19:20
C0nundrumno_gravity lol19:20
tomreynfenhax: cat /proc/cmdline19:20
fenhaxtomreyn: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.11.0-37-generic root=UUID=f85a0a0c-2b13-471e-925e-51734bcbe734 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=719:22
tomreynfenhax: so "no", ok19:22
fenhaxtomreyn: my bad im not very experienced with linux19:23
tomreynfenhax: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/kernel-crash-dump is how you can dbug kernel crashes (if this really is one)19:23
fenhaxtomreyn: alright ill look into it, thanks!19:24
C0nundrum?19:25
tomreynfenhax: for a quicker first test, you can also reboot the system with just this and see what is printed on screen when you then try to reboot:19:25
tomreyn!bootlog | fenhax19:25
ubottufenhax: To get a more verbose log of the boot process, remove "quiet" and "splash" from the kernel boot parameters and add "debug systemd.log_level=info". For info on editing kernel boot parameters, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters19:25
C0nundrum➜  ~ apt list --installed linux-*19:26
C0nundrum; zsh: no matches found: linux-*19:26
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tomreynC0nundrum: you boot to recovery, then run fsck from there before / without mounting writable ("mount --remount,ro /" if needed)19:27
C0nundrumRemeber i said i did that and rand a fsck already19:27
C0nundrumThey all report Pass19:28
tomreynC0nundrum: can you share the output of that?19:28
hggdh C0nundrum: try apt list --installed linux-\*19:30
tomreynC0nundrum: also, which kernel are you running when you get this "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv should be checked for errors" message?19:30
Gwalenncbreak, I made some tes If you add .directory/subdir and export .directory you not access to .directory/subdir19:33
C0nundrumI'm running Linux version 5.6.17-050617-generic (kernel@kathleen) (gcc version 9.3.0 (Ubuntu 9.3.0-13ubuntu1)) #202006071230 SMP Sun Jun 7 12:35:03 UTC 202019:34
tomreynwhy?19:35
tomreynthat's a june 2020 test kernel build.19:36
C0nundrumI think that was the stable version i found for my hardware19:36
C0nundrumother kernals i've tried lead to more infrequent crashes19:36
tomreynwhat kind of crashes?19:36
C0nundrumi have a service just to keep this pc up with a smart switch :(19:36
C0nundrumThere instances where the pc just locks up19:37
C0nundrumlike now its stuck at Pass 2: Checking directory structure.19:37
C0nundrumI guess i'll try it in recovery mode. Wanted to copy the output over ssh19:37
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tomreynthis sounds more like a potential hardware issue. which brings us back to dmesg and looking for media errors, as i suggested on the very start of this conversation. i didn't see you responding to it.19:38
tomreynyou should also run a memory test overnight, memtest86+ (as packaged in ubuntu, available from the grub menu once installed), if you're bios booting, or memtest86.com (a separate download, to be written to a usb stick and booted form there, if you're uefi booting.19:40
C0nundrumI remember i had memory problems with another pc. Memtest didn't help. It showed all pass, but replacing all the ram helped19:41
tomreynif two full passes of a memory test indicate no problem, do a cpu burn-in test, too. if that also reveals no problems, run a    smartctl    test against you physical storages.19:41
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C0nundrumOh, i love that. will do19:41
C0nundrumAny other disk check tools ?19:41
C0nundrumIts a samsung 1tb ssd prob should check the smart info19:42
tomreynwell, again, start by inspecting dmesg for media errors19:42
tomreynbut if you can do so, be sure to run a current and supported kernel19:43
tomreyn(you can use a recent live system if that makes it easier)19:43
tomreynC0nundrum: you can also run fsck against the installed systems' file system from a live system (i.e. recent ubuntu installer/live iso)19:47
tomreynthat's actually the better option than running it from recovery19:47
C0nundrumtomreyn you still there ?>20:48
tomreynC0nundrum: that depends on what's next20:48
tomreynC0nundrum: (i.e. please generally just ask the very question you have directly, no need for the back and forth, and yes, i'm currently here, but this can change)20:51
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sarnoldand if you'd asked the question six minutes ago you might have gotten an answer by now :)20:54
C0nundrumtomreyn this is my kern log https://www.dropbox.com/s/ee4f4ah7cr6gaz6/kern.txt?dl=021:14
C0nundrumSorry i'm doing some serious multitasking . have a split brain right now x.x21:15
tomreyn"AGP: Please enable the IOMMU option in the BIOS setup"21:18
tomreynC0nundrum: ^ see above. but this is still the >1 year old test kernel, not one we support here21:21
tomreynC0nundrum: there are write errors to the ata2.00 attached storage21:23
tomreynthat's the Samsung SSD 860  3B6Q  (1.0 TB capacity)21:24
C0nundrumhm21:27
tomreynC0nundrum: there's a firmware update (4B6Q) available for this SSD.21:34
C0nundrumWow this was what i found for my board in relation to IOMMU21:35
C0nundrumhttps://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/ga-78lmt-usb3-have-virtualization.3442239/21:35
C0nundrumI would be sceared to do an update with the system randomly crashing21:35
tomreynright, this will need to be solved first of all, or the upgrade done on a different computer. but first of all, see iif you can generally stabilize it, when booting off different storage media21:37
tomreynalso cross test sata cables before you do a firmware upgrade on the ssd21:38
C0nundrumWell i figured i would try to do the general disk checks to see if there is an issue21:38
C0nundrummy last systemctl crashed so trying live cd21:38
C0nundrumi even hate the live cd because it thoughs so much errors on boot21:38
C0nundrum18.04 image21:38
tomreyntry to tell apart whether the "random crashes" are related to the ssd or separate first of all21:38
C0nundrumWell did the kern log i post give any indication ?21:38
tomreynit recommended enabling iommu, and thrw a bunch of acpi errors21:39
C0nundrumLook at the link i posted21:39
C0nundrumThe bios i have doesn't have it21:39
tomreynbut again, not a kernel we can support here21:39
C0nundrumthere was no resolution in the thread21:39
C0nundrumWHat kernel should i be on ?21:40
C0nundrumWHats a reallt good stable one :/21:40
C0nundrumthat works good with amd21:40
tomreynan ubuntu kernel, and a current one21:40
C0nundrumI guess kernels still confused me :/21:40
tomreynand one that's made for your ubuntu release21:40
tomreyni told you all of this before :/21:40
geniiWhichever one linux-image-generic installs21:40
C0nundrumconfuses *21:41
geniiIt will always be the most stable recent one21:41
C0nundrumAll i did was install the os from the Offcial Ubuntu 18.04 image21:41
C0nundrumand i think i did a dist upgrade and kern upgrade at some point21:41
C0nundrumFor better wifi support21:42
C0nundrumbut i don't use wifi on this server anymore21:42
C0nundrumCan you give me a kernel and the command to install it ?21:47
C0nundrumOr maybe i already have it21:47
C0nundrumi think i downloaded a bunch just in case one was unstable so i could test them21:47
geniiC0nundrum: if the command: apt policy linux-image-generic shows this as installed you're already good. If it doesn't, then: sudo apt update&& sudo apt install linux-image-generic21:49
tomreynyou're only good if you're then booting into that kernel and not a different, newer, one, which you must have manually downloaded from kernel-ppa at some point.22:06
tomreynalso, with 20.04 LTS, you may want to    sudo apt install linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04    rather than    linux-image-generic22:07
tomreynC0nundrum: general info on ubuntu kernel choices: https://gist.github.com/tomreyn/8d7675840d7bc7389b32e4d8887ca44922:09
geniitomreyn: Excellent additional information22:10
tomreyn:) thanks genii22:11
Sven_vBhi :) I'm trying to sandbox a game so it can access internet servers but not unrelated local files or local network servers. originally I was planning on AppArmor but I read that firejail would be easier. is it comparable? are there pitfalls to be aware of?22:13
Sven_vBon focal22:13
C0nundrumGot the live cd up with ssh working. Trying to run some disk checks now with smartmontools22:14
C0nundrumThese were the smart results22:18
C0nundrumhttps://gist.github.com/dragonpiper/9d986abf74f328e304cf31a2720ee95a22:19
C0nundrumThis is the results of the fsck.ext4 check disk22:19
C0nundrumhttps://gist.github.com/dragonpiper/9d7b97c2d1575a40d127351d3a55869422:19
C0nundrumAny more disk magic i can do before i try booting22:19
C0nundrumLike i said, i don't think my bios has IOMMU22:20
C0nundrumping tomreyn22:20
tomreynC0nundrum: post a dmesg if this is a current live cd22:27
C0nundrumtomreyn what's the exact dmesg  command you want me to run ?23:00
C0nundrumYou want me to run it after i chroot the the main os ?23:00
tomreynC0nundrum:    dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999     - doesn't matter whether it's before or after chroot, the running kernel remains the same, but you should have tried to to mount a file system from the internal disk which ubuntu is installed on.23:02
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tomreynthis requires internet access. if you don't have any, just run "dmesg > /tmp/dmesg" and then copy /tmp/dmesg around to where you have internet access23:04
thunderysteakHey I'm having some super weird issues with Ubuntu on Venue 11 Pro after running updates. With any 5.11 kernel I get no display unless I use nomodeset and cause big performance hit, but with kernel 5.8.0-63 I get no touch, rotation, audio or working touchpad with the dockable keyboard. I'm not sure where to start diagnosing this outside of something buggy with the kernel.23:36
thunderysteakIt used to run completely fine for months and now its in this weird broken state.23:38
thunderysteak20.04.3 LTS btw23:41
xu-irc22wSo I have universal repo enabled but still cant install wimlib. What else do I need to do?23:56

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