[00:08] <guigui-80> bs y a t'il quelqu'un,
[00:13] <yukiup> 21.10 is almost out! ~0-0~
[00:14] <srv> out of contention
[00:14] <srv> :)
[00:19] <guiggui01> bon soir tous le monde
[00:20] <srv> i dint speak french
[00:20] <guiggui01> ok
[00:20] <srv> i dont *
[00:28] <guigui-80> bs tous le mondes
[01:13] <survivor303> is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[01:13] <sarnold> survivor303: it seems to be working for me
[01:14] <survivor303> hmm odd, from me (finland) no pings, no nothing. 91.189.88.142
[01:15] <survivor303> 91.189.88.152 same
[01:15] <sarnold> https://termbin.com/ut4q
[01:16] <survivor303> im coming also from cloudflare dns :/
[01:16] <sarnold> survivor303: can you grab an mtr --report to that IP address? there might be something closer to us than to you
[01:17] <survivor303> nothing at all
[01:28] <survivor303> 193.166.3.5 goes down as well
[01:28] <survivor303> impish Release 404
[01:29] <survivor303> this isnt look nice at all
[01:29] <survivor303> something happening
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> Tuna-Fish: checkout bug #1946411
[03:36] <kerber> hi there
[03:36] <kerber> hi
[03:36] <kerber> just a quick question regarding ubuntu's advantages and something about upgrades
[03:37] <kerber> i see there are many distros, but ubuntu by far most popular. what is the clear advantage except easy install? more support?
[03:37] <kerber> is there a reason companies prefer to use ubuntu over other distros (even debian)?
[03:38] <kerber> and another - how stable are upgrades between LTS versions (not clean isntalls, but upgrades)
[03:39] <toddc> ubuntu is one of the few to offer paid support
[03:41] <toddc> lts is stable non lts are more of a testing 9 months of support lts can be as long as 7 years of support
[03:42] <toddc> REHL must be built on redhat with support Ubuntu can be built tested and support can be added at anytime if needed
[03:44] <toddc> ubuntu has a great community good docs and comuntity support and paid support  lotsd of guides are writtten for ubuntu based systems
[05:28] <zappa35> i installed yaru-themes, but where do i put the commands to enable them?
[05:31] <zappa35> i mean yaru-colors
[05:32] <danielssan> zappa35: you can choose in the gnome-tweaks tool
[05:33] <zappa35> they do not show up in the tweaks tool
[05:34] <zappa35> i tried unsuccesfully on 20.04 and now 21.04
[05:34] <danielssan> zappa35: so how did you install them?
[05:35] <zappa35> via ubuntu software app
[05:35] <zappa35> it says to enable them i do a list of commands but i dont know where to put them
[05:36] <danielssan> just in the normal terminal
[05:36] <zappa35> that shows errors such as not recognizing do as a command
[05:37] <zappa35> is it proper to copy n paste the readout from terminal here?
[05:37] <danielssan> can you paste what you put into the terminal on paste.ubuntu.com and give the url you get?
[05:38] <danielssan> (incl the output)
[05:38] <zappa35> ok brb
[05:44] <zappa35> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/H6jnGb54Yj/
[05:45] <danielssan> zappa35: and what is the output?
[05:46] <zappa35> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[05:47] <danielssan> hm the only thing i do say, is that you need to remove the yaru-colors in front
[05:47] <danielssan> but otherwise it should work
[05:50] <zappa35> when i do that, it doesnt output an error however the colors dont show in the tweaks tool
[05:50] <danielssan> zappa35: did you relogin or reboot in betwen?
[05:50] <danielssan> between*
[05:51] <danielssan> there shouldn't be any output when doing it right ;)
[05:52] <zappa35> no, should i?
[05:52] <danielssan> yes :)
[05:52] <zappa35> ok brb and thank you
[05:59] <danielssan> zappa35: etiquette is that you don't randomly write people a private message
[06:01] <zappa35> i apologize, i was intending to do that with the pm, as i noticed it was possible
[06:04] <danielssan> zappa35: can you verify that user themes is active in gnome-extensions-app
[06:05] <zappa35> it is and says default
[06:11] <danielssan> zappa35: i am out of ideas, but am reading a bit right now
[06:12] <zappa35> thank you. i'm continuing to google
[07:49] <Hash> Hey
[07:49] <Hash> What happened to 20.04 ubuntu
[07:49] <Hash> I can't find mysql-workbench in there
[07:52] <Hash> https://dev.mysql.com/downloads/file/?id=505956 I get it from here i guess
[07:57] <yanglei> hey
[07:57] <yanglei> Hi
[07:57] <yanglei> haha
[08:00] <yanglei> 有人吗？？？
[08:00] <yanglei> 有没有人哦？
[08:00] <yanglei> 我现在在用Lubuntu
[08:01] <yanglei> 哈哈
[08:01] <yanglei> 咿呀咿呀哟
[08:33] <tomreyn> Hash: the package had been dropped off debian due to unsatisfiable build-depends according to https://tracker.debian.org/news/943250/mysql-workbench-removed-from-testing/ and https://bugs.debian.org/867943 - resulting in https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&exact=1&keywords=mysql-workbench
[08:40] <locsmif> Hi all. Anybody any idea why needrestart(1) is acting all wonky lately and keeps telling me that chrome, kwin, plasmashell, phpstorm, jetbrains, etc. are running outdated binaries? They're not and nothing even remotely related was updated. (I installed perl's JSON library monents ago, and nothing of that touches any of the listed binaries)
[08:44] <no_gravity> When I start nautilus from the command line like "nautilus /some/path" it opens that path. But when I put "Exec=nautilus --new-window /some/path" into /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop" it still opens the users home dir. Why is that?
[09:01] <yanglei> asd
[09:03] <polve> Hi.  I would like to assign ‘<Shift><Super>f’ as a shortcut, but Gnome doens't let me. I've checked with `(for schema in $(gsettings list-schemas); do gsettings list-recursively $schema; done)` but it's not there.  Any ideas why?
[09:05] <yanglei> asd
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> polve: check with dconf-editor perhaps if you can find values there?
[09:46] <iomari891> greetings, I booted into a live distro and did a dd disk to disk copy of my ubuntu hd with no errors reported.  But when I replace the source with the clone and boot, I get "no operating system found". I thought a  dd copy was an exact replica. What could I have done wrong?
[09:50] <spookley> sad
[09:50] <tomreyn> iomari891: did you clone a or multiple partitions, a complete disk, or something else?
[10:00] <iomari891> complete drive
[10:01] <iomari891> dd if=/dev/sda of=dev/sdb
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> iomari891: was the disk running or did you use external media or sata docks or so?
[10:01] <iomari891> booted from a live usb. Bot disks were not mounted
[10:01] <iomari891> both
[10:02] <iomari891> system is a laptop
[10:03] <iomari891> 2 drives installed
[10:04] <guiverc> iomari891, if both drives have the same image, they won't have unique UUIDs & thus no boot maybe expected
[10:05] <iomari891> would the uuid cause the drive not to even be recognized at all?
[10:06] <iomari891> if so, what;s the point of cloning if I can't boot the clone?
[10:06] <guiverc> if two drives have the same ID; the BIOS/firmware of the machine is likely to ignore both disks (UUID is supposed to be unique; it can mean faulty hardware where ignoring the device(s) is a logical move)
[10:06] <iomari891> i removed the source disk after cloning.
[10:07] <guiverc> you clone so should one fail; you've got a replacement to plug in when needed
[10:07] <iomari891> no, I cloned to a larger drive cause i needed mor space.
[10:07] <iomari891> more
[10:09] <tomreyn> did you try to make the additional space usable, though? and if so, how?
[10:10] <iomari891> I'll increase the last partition after I can't get the drive to boot. Right now the extra space is unformatted.
[10:10] <iomari891> after I can
[10:11] <tomreyn> is this system booting in uefi or bios mode?
[10:11] <iomari891> i can see all content on all partitions from the live usb boot medium.
[10:12] <tomreyn> and do those disks have am MBR or GPT partition table?
[10:12] <iomari891> If I have to reclone, is there a bullet proof method?
[10:17] <alkisg> iomari891: GPT stores the second partition table at the end of the disk, so after dd, you'll need to realign it with gdisk or gparted
[10:17] <alkisg> It's usually a message like "your secondary gpt is invalid, fix it? <y>"
[10:17] <Paddy_NI> Hey I just bought an nvidia gtx 1030 and I am wondering what the recommended driver installation method is?
[10:18] <alkisg> Other than that, the plain dd should work in any case
[10:18] <iomari891> alkisg: Thanks, I did that already.
[10:18] <Paddy_NI> Do I use the graphics-drivers/ppa?
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> Paddy_NI: ubuntu-drivers list will reccomend you
[10:18] <iomari891> That;s what I thought but "No operating system found"
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> Paddy_NI: we see that ubuntu's nvidia driver versions are pretty equaly to the graphics drivers ppa these days
[10:19] <Paddy_NI> lotuspsychje: Cheers, it has recommended 7 by the looks of it
[10:20] <Paddy_NI> Do I just choose the higher number :-)
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> Paddy_NI: well usualy it reccomends a best driver, and next to it all the supported drivers for your card
[10:20] <tomreyn> iomari891: if this is a uefi system,    sudo efibootmgr -v    may explain why it fails to boot
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> Paddy_NI: so ubuntu-drivers autoinstall 'should' give you the most reccomended
[10:21] <Paddy_NI> lotuspsychje: That's really nice, thank you :-)
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> Paddy_NI: in reality the best driver for your card, would be the one performing best to your own experience
[10:23] <iomari891> tomreyn: sudo efibootmgr -v:  EFI variables are not supported on this system
[10:24] <Paddy_NI> lotuspsychje: True, I *think* it installed the 470 version. Not sure which of the 470's it installed though. I suppose I just reboot?
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> Paddy_NI: yeah reboot, if you result into a black screen, see !nomodeset
[10:26] <Gwalenn> hi, for Ubuntu tweaks, does I need to make .icons .cursors .themes in my home or I can groupe .themes/cursors .themes/icons ?
[10:26] <Paddy_NI> lotuspsychje: Annoyingly I cannot use the hdmi port on this card due to the design of this pc case ;-(  I will need to keep my eyes open for some sort of adapter with an incredibly narrow, right angle adapter.
[10:27] <Paddy_NI> lotuspsychje: Cool
[10:27] <Paddy_NI> brb
[10:29] <tomreyn> iomari891: so at least the OS you ran this on did not boot in UEFI mode.
[10:30] <tomreyn> iomari891: another possible cause for this error message you quoted is a buggy / outdated Lenovo BIOS, as well as an incorrect setting for SATA/AHCI/Intel RST mode in BIOS.
[10:31] <nikolam> I think that memory tester that is hipped with Ubuntu/Xubuntu ISO images is broken for quite some time. On dozen machines over a large period of time, Memtest86 simply freezes after starting the RAM test...
[10:31] <nikolam> shipped
[10:33] <nikolam> Maybe or not it has something to do , Ubuntu images are shipping Memtest86+ 5.01 and latest version seems to be 5.31b
[10:35] <tomreyn> "This build is not ready for production yet, because it lacks some feedbacks from beta-testers."
[10:38] <Paddy_NI> !nomodeset > Paddy_NI
[10:41] <locsmif> Anybody any idea if needrestart is broken in Hirsute? It appears to be...
[10:58] <Linux^> hey
[11:12] <iomari891> greetings, I just noticed that my cloned disk is gpt after cloning but my source is mbr. CAn I change the clone to mbr without destroying it?
[11:17] <tomreyn> if you cloned the full disk including partition table, as you stated initially, then the target would have the same partition table as the source.
[11:20] <tomreyn> note that MBR has a partition size limit of 2.2 TB.
[11:38] <Avago_Broadqual> Do I need to worry about any gotchas on a Ubuntu Server 18.04 -> 20.04 upgrade if I am using LXC/LXD + LXDUI?
[11:38] <Avago_Broadqual> This is on ppc6el
[11:39] <Avago_Broadqual> ppc64el&
[11:50] <tomreyn> Avago_Broadqual: you may want to    /join #ubuntu-server
[11:50] <Avago_Broadqual> tomreyn will do, thanks!
[12:17] <locsmif> Anybody any idea if needrestart is broken in Hirsute? It appears to be...
[12:39] <locsmif> Hmm
[12:54] <quickquestion> Hello, everyone! Any idea why my window managers might have stopped auto-completing file/folder names in the address bar? (Google gives me random results about various programs.)
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:03] <no_gravity> OMG it is BluesKaj!
[13:05] <BluesKaj> hi no_gravity
[13:05] <no_gravity> BluesKaj: Yo!
[13:05] <no_gravity> Does anybody know if you can you use lo setup to crate a named loopback like "losteup /dev/myloop /some/file"? Or does it have to be /dev/loop..0-9..?
[13:23] <aslan> how to create a file and view what's inside it through the terminal
[13:24] <no_gravity> aslan: "a view"?
[13:25] <aslan> txt
[13:25] <no_gravity> echo hello > my.txt; cat my.txt
[13:26] <aslan> thanks
[13:26] <no_gravity> My pleasure
[13:31] <cart_man> So is there some Canonical employees in this channel?
[13:32] <aslan> I also wanted to ask how to put the calendar of the whole year in this file and view it
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> cart_man: what are you looking for exactly?
[13:39] <cart_man> I was just curious
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> cart_man: in every channel there are canonical employees doing their part of the job
[13:59] <Mekaneck> cart_man: i don't think there are canonical employees in the channels, only volunteers and ubuntu members
[14:00] <Mekaneck> and some developers
[14:01] <ravage> im sure that is not his actual question. lets wait for that :)
[14:03] <Mekaneck> ravage: if he had a support question he'd asked it by now i guess :)
[14:03] <leftyfb> there are typically multiple Canonical employees in a lot of the ubuntu channels. Though they aren't the majority of the people volunteering their help. They are also not paid to do support here, so the fact that they work for Canonical doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things
[14:04] <Mekaneck> true
[14:13] <cart_man> Mekaneck:  ravage: haha no it was. I recently took an interest in working at canonical
[14:13] <cart_man> leftyfb: ^^
[14:13] <leftyfb> cart_man: feel free to apply. It's really offtopic here though
[14:14] <cart_man> leftyfb: yea totally.  Take top notch only so
[14:14] <Mekaneck> cart_man: it's offtopic here since it's a Ubuntu support channel but have a look at https://canonical.com/careers/all
[14:14] <Mekaneck> otherwise move the conversation to #ubuntu-discuss :)
[15:56] <Donald_> Hello guys, can Ubuntu 20.04 LTS install Gnome 40?
[15:56] <ioria> maybe with gnome-boxes
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> Donald_: its usualy not a good idea to mix package versions across ubuntu releases
[15:57] <Donald_> I see.
[15:58] <danielssan> Donald_: you could wait a few days for 21.10 which has gnome40 (if you want to jump off the LTS train)
[15:59] <Mekaneck> or install the Beta/RC of 21.10
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> virtualbox or gnome-box like ioria says
[15:59] <Mekaneck> should be stable enough and you just can keep updating it to the final release
[16:00] <Mekaneck> up to you Donald_ ^
[16:00] <Donald_> The latest Ubuntu uses Wayland instead of Xrog, right?
[16:00] <Mekaneck> Donald_: depends
[16:00] <Mekaneck> if you have nVidia it switches to Xorg
[16:01] <Donald_> Ok, I have Nvidia GPU.
[16:01] <Mekaneck> Xorg it is then :)
[16:01] <Donald_> Noted. Thanks.
[17:01] <MrMobius> im trying to mount two usb drives at once. do i basically assign a different folder for each port?
[17:02] <EriC^^> MrMobius: clicking on them in the file manager should automatically mount them at /media/user/ID-here
[17:02] <MrMobius> EriC^^, thanks a lot. i have a server im logging into with a terminal
[17:02] <EriC^^> you could manually do 'sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mountpoint'
[17:03] <MrMobius> will that stay mounted between restarts?
[17:03] <EriC^^> no
[17:03] <EriC^^> you'd need to add them to /etc/fstab
[17:03] <MrMobius> ok i can figure that out. i think i had the same thing with my hdd and added it
[17:04] <MrMobius> is there a /dev/sdxY for each usb port or could i get the same id from inserting a drive on a different port if nothing else is plugged in?
[17:04] <EriC^^> MrMobius: you want to use the uuid of the filesystem so it never changes
[17:05] <EriC^^> (in fstab)
[17:05] <MrMobius> EriC^^, hmm I was hoping to have something setup where I had a folder or folders mapped to usb and any random usb plugged in will be accessible through one of them
[17:06] <MrMobius> unless that's not really feasible
[17:06] <EriC^^> MrMobius: that's doable, you'd need to add some udev rule for usb hdds i guess, and have it mounted in one of the folders
[17:07] <EriC^^> i'd guess some udev rule -> runs your script, sees which folder to mount and mounts
[17:12] <jcbjoe2021> Is there like a comprehensive guide on dpkg. I’m on google and I’m bookmarking but just wondered if this channel had any input
[17:12] <jcbjoe2021> ?
[17:12] <EriC^^> jcbjoe2021: none that i know of, although the guys in #debian might have something handy
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> jcbjoe2021: https://linuxconfig.org/beginners-guide-to-dpkg-linux-command
[17:18] <bancroft> is there a way to check why cloud-init would fail a "check" step?
[17:36] <MrMobius> EriC^^, thanks
[17:36] <EriC^^> no problem MrMobius
[17:42] <jcbjoe2021> i keep getting a notification saying my network was disconencted and it flashes on and off, how do i stop this?
[17:52] <leftyfb> jcbjoe2021: replace your network cable or device it's plugged into
[17:55] <leftyfb> jcbjoe2021: look in the "dmesg" log when it happens. If the link is just going down, then it's not an issue with the driver or the OS. It will be a hardware issue
[17:59] <jcbjoe2021> leftyfb: im connected via wifi
[18:01] <jcbjoe2021> it randomly popus up and goes away
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> jcbjoe2021: whats your wifi chipset on wich kernel please
[18:04] <jcbjoe2021> lotuspsychje: brb i gotta take my kid to driver test =) hope he passes
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> kk later
[18:09] <cbreak> so... 6 days it seems
[18:09] <cbreak> to 21.10
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> !party
[18:11] <cbreak> very useful.
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> oh still small party :p
[18:12] <cbreak> are the packages on https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/ final?
[18:12] <Leoneof> hey cbreak!
[18:12] <cbreak> good evening unknown person
[18:13] <Leoneof> :\
[18:14] <cbreak> still stuck on a 2.0.x ZFS, and a 1.2.x syncthing :(
[18:16] <danielssan> cbreak: yeah because of debian
[18:16] <cbreak> ubuntu's still debian based?
[18:16] <cbreak> interesting
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[18:43] <electrostrong> Hey all - what IRC client do you use?  I use HexChat and it's reconnect features are pretty lame...
[18:44] <no_gravity> Good Evening. Is powertop still en vogue to tune the power settings of a machine runnint Ubuntu 20.04?
[18:45] <mcnaveen> yes. it works for me. I'm using TLP + Powertop
[18:46] <no_gravity> mcnaveen: What is TLP?
[18:46] <cbreak> electrostrong: hexchat kind of works. I use it via ZNC in an LXC Container
[18:46] <cbreak> (I use the same ZNC from other systems with other clients too)
[18:47] <electrostrong> thanks cbreak - might try that too - just looking for something that has more capabilities and some nice macro scripts I can use
[18:47] <mcnaveen> TLP is a battery optimization utility.
[18:48] <no_gravity> mcnaveen: What does it do?
[18:48] <mcnaveen> Well, it optimize your battery and increase the life. with tlp i can see long battery life.
[18:49] <no_gravity> mcnaveen: How does it do that?
[18:50] <mcnaveen> no gravity: you can install with `sudo apt install tlp`
[18:50] <mcnaveen> please google for more info :)
[18:51] <no_gravity> Ok
[18:51] <mcnaveen> :)
[18:52] <no_gravity> One could write a script that loops through "apt-cache search ." and installs every package available.
[18:52] <no_gravity> Then one would have a complete ubuntu installation.
[18:53] <no_gravity> It's probably possible to do that in a bash oneliner.
[18:54] <mcnaveen> haha. that would be cool. you can try -  #dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | awk '{print S1}' > package.lst
[18:55] <mcnaveen> for restoring: #aptitude install -y $(cat package.lst)
[18:55] <no_gravity> mcnaveen: "#dkpg --get-selections"?
[18:56] <genii> The last time I checked mirroring all the repositories was around 40G
[18:57] <yukiup> 40g?
[18:57] <genii> Around there
[18:57] <mcnaveen> I have seen few people using a tool called "Aptik" for this purpose
[18:57] <mcnaveen> https://github.com/teejee2008/aptik-gtk
[18:59] <C0nundrum> My installation crashes everytime I do this. I ran an fsck and everything passes
[18:59] <C0nundrum> https://gist.github.com/dragonpiper/bc73ec3a8c4acac69d5c894caa07e775
[19:00] <Gwalenn> hi, when you add a directory to $PATH and later you create a subdirectory inside, is it included directly to $PATH ?
[19:00] <no_gravity> It seems this oneliner works: apt-cache search . | awk '{print $1}' | xargs -n 1 apt install -y
[19:02] <cbreak> Gwalenn: it's not recursive, I think
[19:03] <cbreak> but the directory itself is added
[19:04] <cbreak> so if you had ~/bin/xy/app, and have ~/bin in $PATH, then you can start it via xy/app
[19:04] <cbreak> at least with zsh :)
[19:04] <mcnaveen> C0nundrum: Did you tried after restarting?
[19:05] <C0nundrum> Yes
[19:05] <Gwalenn> cbreak, ok. I tried to understand why my digikam.desktop launcher doesn't works
[19:05] <C0nundrum> The screen just freezes there
[19:05] <genii> no_gravity: Apt-cache search will not return some package names. Like for instance libstdc++-5-dev
[19:05] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: you have kernel images for google cloud, azure, aws, a recent mainline kernel, and the GA kernel of ubuntu 18.04 installed. why?this system won't match all of this. for 18.04 LTS, you probably want the HWE kernel, maybe the GA kernel.
[19:06] <cbreak> Gwalenn: aren't desktop files for the GUI?
[19:06] <genii> ..but if you actually check with apt-cache policy it will tell you it's there
[19:06] <C0nundrum> I'm not sure why. one of the reasons linux annoys me. Its just an ubuntu installation with docker installed and some other packages
[19:06] <Gwalenn> I created .local/share "applications" folder and create inside the digikam.desktop file but not working
[19:06] <cbreak> $PATH is an environment variable. It only applies to individual processes. And your GUI might as well have a different $PATH than you have in your shell
[19:07] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: if this is the same Virtualbox VM you discussed about yesterday, then check dmesg on this VM as well as OS kernel / system logs on the host system for media errors.
[19:08] <fenhax> whenever i use the 'reboot' command, the kernel panics and when close my pc and open again, "dixRegisterPrivateKey: Assertion !global_keys[type].created' failed." shows up. help?
[19:09] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: and you won't need backport-iwlwifi-dkms in a VM, this is an intel wireless driver
[19:09] <C0nundrum> Oh this isn't the same vm. I fixed that one and its stable it seems
[19:09] <C0nundrum> This is a linux installation on a amd based pc i have
[19:09] <tomreyn> so what about those kernels?
[19:10] <no_gravity> genii: Oh man. So after installing 56k packages, I will still not have a complete Ubuntu?
[19:10] <C0nundrum> I think some built in tool that manages kernals automatically downloaded them or something
[19:11] <C0nundrum> How can i clean that stuff up
[19:11] <genii> no_gravity: You will still not have instralled every package that is available to install, coorect.
[19:11] <C0nundrum> is there a tool that helps with it
[19:11] <genii> *correct
[19:11] <tomreyn> fenhax: which ubuntu versio is this, which kernel version, which hardware and BIOS version?
[19:11] <no_gravity> genii: How will I ever feel complete ...
[19:12] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: start with    apt list --installed linux-*
[19:13] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: identify those you don't need / want, then    sudo apt purge <packagename>    them. you can list multiple <packagename>'s separated by spaces
[19:13] <tomreyn> no_gravity: what's oyour use case for ubuntu with all available packages installed?
[19:15] <tomreyn> fenhax: lsb_release -ds && cat /proc/{version_signature,cmdline} && journalctl -b | grep DMI:
[19:15] <oerheks> Nowadays ubuntu removes old kernels with the next update
[19:15] <no_gravity> tomreyn: I can't afford a Mercedes with all available extras. So I thought I run an Ubuntu with all available packages.
[19:15] <oerheks> so, that tool exists
[19:16] <tomreyn> no_gravity: i would not claim that this is a balanced comparison
[19:17] <no_gravity> tomreyn: Don't you think Ubuntu is the Mercedes Benz of Linux distros?
[19:17] <tomreyn> no_gravity: i think you're comparing apples and oranges
[19:17] <tomreyn> and that this desn't desribe a use case.
[19:18] <C0nundrum> ugh its not booting gotta trobleshoot that in a sec
[19:18] <C0nundrum> In the meantime , how do i clear  *** /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv should be checked for errors ***
[19:18] <fenhax> tomreyn tomreyn 5.11.0-37, ubuntu 20.04, DMI: Acer Nitro AN515-57/Scala_TLS, BIOS V1.05 06/10/2021
[19:18] <C0nundrum> i tried fsck already
[19:18] <no_gravity> tomreyn: You compare my comparison of Mercedes and Ubuntu with a comparison of Apples and Oranges? I think that is a bicylce to shoe comparison.
[19:19] <tomreyn> fenhax: and non default kernel parameters (cmdline, you omitted this info)?
[19:19] <tomreyn> *any
[19:20] <fenhax> tomreyn: what do you mean?
[19:20] <C0nundrum> no_gravity lol
[19:20] <tomreyn> fenhax: cat /proc/cmdline
[19:22] <fenhax> tomreyn: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.11.0-37-generic root=UUID=f85a0a0c-2b13-471e-925e-51734bcbe734 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[19:22] <tomreyn> fenhax: so "no", ok
[19:23] <fenhax> tomreyn: my bad im not very experienced with linux
[19:23] <tomreyn> fenhax: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/kernel-crash-dump is how you can dbug kernel crashes (if this really is one)
[19:24] <fenhax> tomreyn: alright ill look into it, thanks!
[19:25] <C0nundrum> ?
[19:25] <tomreyn> fenhax: for a quicker first test, you can also reboot the system with just this and see what is printed on screen when you then try to reboot:
[19:25] <tomreyn> !bootlog | fenhax
[19:26] <C0nundrum> ➜  ~ apt list --installed linux-*
[19:26] <C0nundrum> ; zsh: no matches found: linux-*
[19:27] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: you boot to recovery, then run fsck from there before / without mounting writable ("mount --remount,ro /" if needed)
[19:27] <C0nundrum> Remeber i said i did that and rand a fsck already
[19:28] <C0nundrum> They all report Pass
[19:28] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: can you share the output of that?
[19:30] <hggdh>  C0nundrum: try apt list --installed linux-\*
[19:30] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: also, which kernel are you running when you get this "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv should be checked for errors" message?
[19:33] <Gwalenn> cbreak, I made some tes If you add .directory/subdir and export .directory you not access to .directory/subdir
[19:34] <C0nundrum> I'm running Linux version 5.6.17-050617-generic (kernel@kathleen) (gcc version 9.3.0 (Ubuntu 9.3.0-13ubuntu1)) #202006071230 SMP Sun Jun 7 12:35:03 UTC 2020
[19:35] <tomreyn> why?
[19:36] <tomreyn> that's a june 2020 test kernel build.
[19:36] <C0nundrum> I think that was the stable version i found for my hardware
[19:36] <C0nundrum> other kernals i've tried lead to more infrequent crashes
[19:36] <tomreyn> what kind of crashes?
[19:36] <C0nundrum> i have a service just to keep this pc up with a smart switch :(
[19:37] <C0nundrum> There instances where the pc just locks up
[19:37] <C0nundrum> like now its stuck at Pass 2: Checking directory structure.
[19:37] <C0nundrum> I guess i'll try it in recovery mode. Wanted to copy the output over ssh
[19:38] <tomreyn> this sounds more like a potential hardware issue. which brings us back to dmesg and looking for media errors, as i suggested on the very start of this conversation. i didn't see you responding to it.
[19:40] <tomreyn> you should also run a memory test overnight, memtest86+ (as packaged in ubuntu, available from the grub menu once installed), if you're bios booting, or memtest86.com (a separate download, to be written to a usb stick and booted form there, if you're uefi booting.
[19:41] <C0nundrum> I remember i had memory problems with another pc. Memtest didn't help. It showed all pass, but replacing all the ram helped
[19:41] <tomreyn> if two full passes of a memory test indicate no problem, do a cpu burn-in test, too. if that also reveals no problems, run a    smartctl    test against you physical storages.
[19:41] <C0nundrum> Oh, i love that. will do
[19:41] <C0nundrum> Any other disk check tools ?
[19:42] <C0nundrum> Its a samsung 1tb ssd prob should check the smart info
[19:42] <tomreyn> well, again, start by inspecting dmesg for media errors
[19:43] <tomreyn> but if you can do so, be sure to run a current and supported kernel
[19:43] <tomreyn> (you can use a recent live system if that makes it easier)
[19:47] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: you can also run fsck against the installed systems' file system from a live system (i.e. recent ubuntu installer/live iso)
[19:47] <tomreyn> that's actually the better option than running it from recovery
[20:48] <C0nundrum> tomreyn you still there ?>
[20:48] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: that depends on what's next
[20:51] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: (i.e. please generally just ask the very question you have directly, no need for the back and forth, and yes, i'm currently here, but this can change)
[20:54] <sarnold> and if you'd asked the question six minutes ago you might have gotten an answer by now :)
[21:14] <C0nundrum> tomreyn this is my kern log https://www.dropbox.com/s/ee4f4ah7cr6gaz6/kern.txt?dl=0
[21:15] <C0nundrum> Sorry i'm doing some serious multitasking . have a split brain right now x.x
[21:18] <tomreyn> "AGP: Please enable the IOMMU option in the BIOS setup"
[21:21] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: ^ see above. but this is still the >1 year old test kernel, not one we support here
[21:23] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: there are write errors to the ata2.00 attached storage
[21:24] <tomreyn> that's the Samsung SSD 860  3B6Q  (1.0 TB capacity)
[21:27] <C0nundrum> hm
[21:34] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: there's a firmware update (4B6Q) available for this SSD.
[21:35] <C0nundrum> Wow this was what i found for my board in relation to IOMMU
[21:35] <C0nundrum> https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/ga-78lmt-usb3-have-virtualization.3442239/
[21:35] <C0nundrum> I would be sceared to do an update with the system randomly crashing
[21:37] <tomreyn> right, this will need to be solved first of all, or the upgrade done on a different computer. but first of all, see iif you can generally stabilize it, when booting off different storage media
[21:38] <tomreyn> also cross test sata cables before you do a firmware upgrade on the ssd
[21:38] <C0nundrum> Well i figured i would try to do the general disk checks to see if there is an issue
[21:38] <C0nundrum> my last systemctl crashed so trying live cd
[21:38] <C0nundrum> i even hate the live cd because it thoughs so much errors on boot
[21:38] <C0nundrum> 18.04 image
[21:38] <tomreyn> try to tell apart whether the "random crashes" are related to the ssd or separate first of all
[21:38] <C0nundrum> Well did the kern log i post give any indication ?
[21:39] <tomreyn> it recommended enabling iommu, and thrw a bunch of acpi errors
[21:39] <C0nundrum> Look at the link i posted
[21:39] <C0nundrum> The bios i have doesn't have it
[21:39] <tomreyn> but again, not a kernel we can support here
[21:39] <C0nundrum> there was no resolution in the thread
[21:40] <C0nundrum> WHat kernel should i be on ?
[21:40] <C0nundrum> WHats a reallt good stable one :/
[21:40] <C0nundrum> that works good with amd
[21:40] <tomreyn> an ubuntu kernel, and a current one
[21:40] <C0nundrum> I guess kernels still confused me :/
[21:40] <tomreyn> and one that's made for your ubuntu release
[21:40] <tomreyn> i told you all of this before :/
[21:40] <genii> Whichever one linux-image-generic installs
[21:41] <C0nundrum> confuses *
[21:41] <genii> It will always be the most stable recent one
[21:41] <C0nundrum> All i did was install the os from the Offcial Ubuntu 18.04 image
[21:41] <C0nundrum> and i think i did a dist upgrade and kern upgrade at some point
[21:42] <C0nundrum> For better wifi support
[21:42] <C0nundrum> but i don't use wifi on this server anymore
[21:47] <C0nundrum> Can you give me a kernel and the command to install it ?
[21:47] <C0nundrum> Or maybe i already have it
[21:47] <C0nundrum> i think i downloaded a bunch just in case one was unstable so i could test them
[21:49] <genii> C0nundrum: if the command: apt policy linux-image-generic shows this as installed you're already good. If it doesn't, then: sudo apt update&& sudo apt install linux-image-generic
[22:06] <tomreyn> you're only good if you're then booting into that kernel and not a different, newer, one, which you must have manually downloaded from kernel-ppa at some point.
[22:07] <tomreyn> also, with 20.04 LTS, you may want to    sudo apt install linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04    rather than    linux-image-generic
[22:09] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: general info on ubuntu kernel choices: https://gist.github.com/tomreyn/8d7675840d7bc7389b32e4d8887ca449
[22:10] <genii> tomreyn: Excellent additional information
[22:11] <tomreyn> :) thanks genii
[22:13] <Sven_vB> hi :) I'm trying to sandbox a game so it can access internet servers but not unrelated local files or local network servers. originally I was planning on AppArmor but I read that firejail would be easier. is it comparable? are there pitfalls to be aware of?
[22:13] <Sven_vB> on focal
[22:14] <C0nundrum> Got the live cd up with ssh working. Trying to run some disk checks now with smartmontools
[22:18] <C0nundrum> These were the smart results
[22:19] <C0nundrum> https://gist.github.com/dragonpiper/9d986abf74f328e304cf31a2720ee95a
[22:19] <C0nundrum> This is the results of the fsck.ext4 check disk
[22:19] <C0nundrum> https://gist.github.com/dragonpiper/9d7b97c2d1575a40d127351d3a558694
[22:19] <C0nundrum> Any more disk magic i can do before i try booting
[22:20] <C0nundrum> Like i said, i don't think my bios has IOMMU
[22:20] <C0nundrum> ping tomreyn
[22:27] <tomreyn> C0nundrum: post a dmesg if this is a current live cd
[23:00] <C0nundrum> tomreyn what's the exact dmesg  command you want me to run ?
[23:00] <C0nundrum> You want me to run it after i chroot the the main os ?
[23:02] <tomreyn> C0nundrum:    dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999     - doesn't matter whether it's before or after chroot, the running kernel remains the same, but you should have tried to to mount a file system from the internal disk which ubuntu is installed on.
[23:04] <tomreyn> this requires internet access. if you don't have any, just run "dmesg > /tmp/dmesg" and then copy /tmp/dmesg around to where you have internet access
[23:36] <thunderysteak> Hey I'm having some super weird issues with Ubuntu on Venue 11 Pro after running updates. With any 5.11 kernel I get no display unless I use nomodeset and cause big performance hit, but with kernel 5.8.0-63 I get no touch, rotation, audio or working touchpad with the dockable keyboard. I'm not sure where to start diagnosing this outside of something buggy with the kernel.
[23:38] <thunderysteak> It used to run completely fine for months and now its in this weird broken state.
[23:41] <thunderysteak> 20.04.3 LTS btw
[23:56] <xu-irc22w> So I have universal repo enabled but still cant install wimlib. What else do I need to do?