[05:34] <MannyVel> Just re-set up Thunderbird on Kubuntu only to find out that FreeNode is gone (?). Just want to make sure this is working. Thanks in advance.
[05:35] <MannyVel> Don't all jump in here at once - LoL  :-)
[05:35] <MannyVel> Anyone ?
[05:40] <TJ-> MannyVel: it works
[05:41] <MannyVel> Oh. Hey thanks sooOOoo much TJ. Now I can sleep tonight - LoL. Seriously, enjoy.
[08:13] <user|21> hello everyone, does kubuntu have a live USB version?
 @<user|21> just flash the Kubuntu ISO to an USB stick and you have a live version. Or what do you mean?
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/5e4115f1/file_48211.jpg
 I pressed ctrl+alt+f4 and this screen came up. How to exit this? (re @GhostMcT: )
 I gave my signin password but it didn't work.
 Ok solved. (re @GhostMcT: I pressed ctrl+alt+f4 and this screen came up. How to exit this?)
[12:15] <basdo> hello
[12:16] <basdo> im new here
[15:43] <user|25> hi! i'm completely 100% new to linux, but my old laptop is dying and i heard linux can come to the rescue, so i figured i'd give it a go. how can i flash the kubuntu iso to my drive?
 Hi
 https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview
 You can download Kubuntu here: https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[15:50] <Mekaneck> user|25: linux can't save a dying laptop or hard drive
[15:50] <Mekaneck> that's just nonsense
[15:50] <user|25> i already have kubuntu, and i already ave rufus, but for an unknown reason to me, the device won't show up in refus.
[15:50] <user|25> rufus*
[15:51] <Mekaneck> don't use rufus
[15:51] <user|25> also i think my laptop itself might possibly be killing drives because i got my current drive between 6 and 8 months ago and it's already dying
[15:52] <Mekaneck> what kind of drive?
[15:52] <user|25> why shouldn't i use rufus?
[15:52] <Mekaneck> HDD or SSD
[15:52] <user|25> i think hdd
[15:53] <user|25> it's the same type of drive that originally came with the machine
[15:53] <Mekaneck> user|25: rufus isn't reliable
[15:53] <user|25> so the drive might just be old
[15:53] <Mekaneck> use etcher instead when on windows or another os
[15:54] <user|25> problem is, windows 10 came with the machine and i don't have any product key that should have come with the packaging, so if i do happen to grab a new drive, i won't be having a licenced copy of windows any time soon.
 some distros say specifically whether you have to burn an ISO as an ISO (Ubuntu) or with dd (Solus)
 Rufus lets you do this, but does etcher?
[15:55] <Mekaneck> digital keys... worked at my end wioth windows user|25, but we're not here supporting help for that
[15:55] <user|25> yeah
[15:55] <user|25> ik you're not here for windows help lol
[15:56] <user|25> funny that the ubuntu guide recommends rufus but someone here said to use etcher instead
[16:02] <Mekaneck> feel free to use whatever you want
[16:03] <user|25> alright
[16:09] <user|25> can drives start corrupting if they're not defragmented in a long time?
[16:11] <Mekaneck> on linux you don't need to defrag your drives
[16:11] <Mekaneck> just like you don't need a anti virus
[16:11] <user|25> i was just curious if that could be why my drive is corrupting
[16:11] <user|25> also can't you still get viruses on linux?
[16:12] <Mekaneck> i guess the rather depends on how old your drive is IF it is a spinning one
[16:12] <user|25> it's an HDD, i checked
[16:12] <Mekaneck> viruses are harmless on linux and for linux there are none in the wild
[16:13] <user|25> according to some of its properties, it seems like it may have been either produced or released originally in 2006
[16:13] <Mekaneck> it's not windows....
[16:13] <user|25> gotcha
[16:13] <Mekaneck> how old is the HDD?
[16:13] <user|25> "according to some of its properties, it seems like it may have been either produced or released originally in 2006"
[16:13] <Mekaneck> oh
[16:14] <user|25> however it didn't see any actual use until some time early this year
[16:14] <Mekaneck> yeah well... spinning HDD's last for about 3 to 6 years iirc
[16:14] <user|25> not sure how it's still working then, lol
[16:15] <Mekaneck> had a laptop once and the HDD died after 3 years of daily usage, then the system got corupted
[16:16] <user|25> it's also possible the *drivers* for the device were made in 06 and they just haven't needed new drivers for new iterations.
[16:16] <Mekaneck> has nothing to do with the HDD imho
[16:17] <user|25> so basically, SSD lasts way longer, right?
[16:17] <Mekaneck> depends
[16:17] <Mekaneck> and i'm no expert on the matter
[16:17] <user|25> i'm not even 100% sure if my laptop can take an ssd
[16:17] <Mekaneck> get a new one then
[16:18] <user|25> can't afford a new one, otherwise i'd already have a better one by now.
[16:18] <Mekaneck> so you couldn't save money from 2006 up to now to buy a new one?
[17:25] <imam> wew
[19:56] <kman463> hello?
[19:58] <kman463> anyone here?
[19:59] <kman463> how are you?
 @user|25 It's all ok. Usually SSD last longer from my experience. (If you do not buy a cheap no-name SSD from Aliexpress). Try some tools check your SMART values, for example with Crystal Disk Info. (re @IrcsomeBot: <user|25> can't afford a new one, otherwise i'd already have a better one by now.)
 If your PC has SATA HDD, it will also support SSDs
 If you have a new HDD and the SMART check is fine, I would keep using it. Especially, if you have little money. There are also lightweight distros like Lubuntu and Xubuntu. I personally like Lubuntu, because it looks almost like Kubuntu. You can try Kubuntu first and the others afterwards
 @Mekaneck While the second part is true, I think, the first part is not. Viruses can harm on Kubuntu. I think Kubuntu 21.10 still uses X11 as default, so here an example:
 https://github.com/anko/xkbcat (re @IrcsomeBot: <Mekaneck> viruses are harmless on linux and for linux there are none in the wild)
 (Sudoless keylogger to grab you sudo password)
[23:46] <marcie> Hello?
[23:48] <calwig> Hello marcie
[23:48] <marcie> I'm trying to install wordpress.  Somewhere around downloading it I'm running into problems.  It won't let me edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/wordpress.conf
[23:49] <marcie> If I try to open the file it won't let me save it (I've tried it on gedit and nano)
[23:50] <marcie> I was using this as a guide https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-and-configure-wordpress#4-configure-apache-for-wordpress
[23:51] <marcie> I'm stuck at either 2 or 3---I'm not sure but I think the issue with 3 might be related to 2, which seemed to work
[23:58] <marcie> It won't let me save worpress.conf
[23:59] <TheOrignl> Anyone know of and Kubuntu 32bit OS archives around?