[04:20] <linocisco> Hello all . Everytime, I login to ubuntu mate, I got "report problem and Cancel" box. Upon checking out google and forums. it is mentioned to check apport.log under /var/log
[04:21] <linocisco> here is the output of apport.log . https://pastebin.com/0Zw3MFsV
[04:23] <linocisco> I have tried apt-get autoremove to remove some junks or uninstalled programs
[04:23] <linocisco> problem still remains
[05:21] <alkisg> linocisco: try sudo rm /var/crash/*, then reboot
[05:21] <alkisg> Sometimes mate-panel etc crash, then you see the dialog until you either delete the crash dump, or you select "ignore crashes from this app"
[05:22] <linocisco> alkisg, thanks. mate. I will give a try
[05:37] <linocisco> alkisg, it worked really ! it fixed. thanks alot
[05:38] <alkisg> linocisco: remember the command, you may need it again in a few weeks! Cheers!
[05:38] <linocisco> alkisg, why it will crash again and again?
[05:39] <alkisg> Yeah some mate apps crash from time to time unfortunately
[05:39] <alkisg> Although e.g. kde apps crash a lot more! :D
[05:39] <alkisg> (I don't know about gnome I can't use that)
[05:41] <linocisco> alkisg, it means ubuntu mate is not reliable or stable like original ubuntu ?
[05:41] <linocisco> alkisg, thanks. I will remember that command for later use
[05:42] <alkisg> No. I'm using ubuntu-mate for my main desktop
[05:42] <alkisg> I mean that "all software has bugs in general" :)
[07:41]  * enyc meows
[07:41] <enyc> curious how much ubuntu-MATE is used over mint-MATE these days...  is MATE a declining DE anyhow...?
[09:43] <alkisg> I've no idea, but I guess anyone familiar with debian policy (developers etc) avoid mint because it severely breaks it, so they'd use vanilla ubuntu or debian over mint
[09:44] <alkisg> GNOME still has more resources than many people have, so other DEs will be valuable for a long time
[09:44] <alkisg> MATE used to be very light, unfortunately it's becoming a bit more bloated with Canonical enforcing snap. We'll see how it goes, maybe a switch to Debian with MATE or KDE will be needed...
[09:45] <alkisg> *GNOME still needs, not has
[11:35] <guiverc> alkisg, MATE became 'heavy' (slowish) by 16.04 in my opinion (as a mate user using pentium M laptops); GTK3 & not the snaps in my experience being the issue for me at least (using less-ancient cpus the drop in speed far less severe)
[12:07] <sixwheeledbeast> It is struggling on older hardware since 18.04 even with snap removed
[12:15] <sixwheeledbeast> just because something in the mate-panel crashes that doesn't make the whole system unstable.
[13:49] <superkuh> Yes. GTK3 became GNOME-ified and bad after 2013.
[13:50] <superkuh> mclasen started intentionally removing features like the ability to paste file paths into file->open dialogs.
 "mclasen started intentionally..." <- this is still possible, isn't it?
[15:26] <superkuh> Only after doing a keyboard shortcut.
[15:26] <superkuh> It will error if you just try to paste or send the path in an automated way as sometimes happens.
[15:28] <superkuh> And the gsettings available for LOCATION_MODE_FILENAME_ENTRY vs LOCATION_MODE_PATH_BAR for gtkfilechooserwidget.c are no longer respected.