| schopin | rbasak: regarding your OpenSSL/NodeJS question, I *think* this document answers the question: https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/blob/main/OpenSSL-Strategy.md#nodejs-version-16x-est-apr-2021-eol-apr-2024 (I'm not responding on the ML because I'm not a dev yet so I'm always stuck in moderation queue, which isn't great for conversations) | 10:56 |
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| schopin | But I'm a bit confused. Does the nodeJS package link against a vendored OpenSSL in Ubuntu? And does the NodeJS ecosystem distribute pre-built binaries in npm? | 10:59 |
| xnox | tjaalton: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/impish/armhf looks like it FTBFS on armhf | 11:09 |
| xnox | /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/390.144/build/common/inc/nv-linux.h:467:43: error: implicit declaration of function ‘outer_sync’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration] | 11:09 |
| xnox | 467 | #define WRITE_COMBINE_FLUSH() { dsb(); outer_sync(); } | 11:09 |
| xnox | and i'm failing to figure out how did it work before (if ever) | 11:09 |
| xnox | maybe arm_heavy_mb() needs to be used instead? | 11:15 |
| tjaalton | xnox: you probably meant tseliot? | 11:15 |
| xnox | yes, yes i do. | 11:21 |
| xnox | sorry =) | 11:21 |
| xnox | tseliot-: ^^^ | 11:21 |
| rbasak | schopin: AFAIK, the nodejs package links against a system provided openssl (via build-depends of the -dev package) and the ecosystem does distribute binaries. However I'm just going on what I've been told in bugs by people doing the actual work - I've not investigated myself. | 11:25 |
| rbasak | schopin: that doc is really helpful. Looks like there's not a clear answer for nodejs for us then, as they're expecting openssl 3 support only in Apr 2021? That's likely to be too late for us. | 11:27 |
| schopin | Erm. April 2021 is in the past :) | 11:28 |
| xnox | tseliot-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1946642 | 11:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1946642 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 ftbfs on armhf" [Undecided, New] | 11:30 |
| rbasak | Oh | 11:30 |
| rbasak | https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/29817 is still open though? | 11:30 |
| ubottu | Issue 29817 in nodejs/node "[Tracking Issue] OpenSSL 3" [Open] | 11:30 |
| xnox | also, if we go down the route of having both 1.1.1 and 3 openssl, i will want to make libssl-dev's be coinstallable this time around. | 11:37 |
| xnox | i.e. ship libssl1.1-dev in like /usr/include/libssl1.1/ssl/ path or some such with adjusted pc files etc. | 11:38 |
| xnox | cause then people will be able to build against 1.1.1 headers by forcing -I/usr/include/libssl1.1 | 11:38 |
| xnox | obviously it is a downstream solution, for which there is no support anywhere yet. | 11:38 |
| schopin | xnox: yes, that'd be nice :) | 11:48 |
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| cjwatson | schopin: I've added you to the ubuntu-devel accept list, so you shouldn't get stuck in moderation again | 11:55 |
| schopin | cjwatson: many thanks! | 11:56 |
| seb128 | juliank, hey, is that known that packagekit still thinks it's offline on impish today? | 13:24 |
| seb128 | bug #1946196 confirmed on a current pending daily iso install | 13:25 |
| ubottu | Bug 1946196 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Additional Drivers fails with pk-client-error-quark: Cannot download packages whilst offline (257)" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946196 | 13:25 |
| seb128 | pkmon states that the system offline despite being connected to wifi | 13:25 |
| seb128 | and pkcon install fails stating it can't install offline | 13:25 |
| bdmurray | there was bug 1943189 about something similar | 13:34 |
| ubottu | Bug 1943189 in packagekit (Ubuntu Hirsute) "[SRU] 'cannot refresh whilst network offline'in plasma-discover" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1943189 | 13:34 |
| bdmurray | oh but seb is talking about bug 1946196 | 13:35 |
| ubottu | Bug 1946196 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Additional Drivers fails with pk-client-error-quark: Cannot download packages whilst offline (257)" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946196 | 13:35 |
| bdmurray | Foundations has a meeting in a bit and I'll bring it up | 13:35 |
| seb128 | bdmurray, thanks, and yes it does sound similar | 13:41 |
| paride | juliank, hi! if one has to install python-apt in a venv, is `pip install 'python-apt @ git+https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/python-apt.git[@...]' the way of doing it, or is the package published in pypi with a name I wasn't able to guess? :) | 14:19 |
| juliank | paride: it is not published | 15:02 |
| juliank | paride: generally, python-apt A.B version should match apt's | 15:02 |
| juliank | seb128: I did expect there to be more to it, the fix likely works for some, but not everyone, and it needs to be fixed in glib properly presumably | 15:03 |
| paride | juliank, so you're saying it's not a good idea to have an arbitrary version of the python-apt on a given system | 15:03 |
| juliank | right | 15:03 |
| juliank | paride: like a future python-apt 2.9 might work with apt 2.8 or not, I can't say :D | 15:04 |
| seb128 | juliank, it has more impact that the initial bug suggested though, it's not possible to install debs from snap-store atm on an new impish install | 15:04 |
| seb128 | juliank, which I would consider it as a release blocker | 15:04 |
| juliank | paride: same for existing versions | 15:04 |
| paride | juliank, ack, makes sense, thanks. | 15:05 |
| juliank | seb128: IMO this is all desktop side magic in packagekit calling glib, I'm not deep into that. Do other glib-based daemons see the system as offline too, for example, is an interesting question | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | Launchpad has a slightly hilarious hack to allow using python-apt from a virtualenv without having to use --system-site-packages | 15:07 |
| juliank | seb128: So all it does is: | 15:07 |
| juliank | ▸ GNetworkMonitor *network_monitor; | 15:07 |
| cjwatson | https://git.launchpad.net/launchpad/tree/utilities/link-system-packages.py + https://git.launchpad.net/launchpad/tree/system-packages.txt | 15:07 |
| juliank | ▸ network_monitor = g_network_monitor_get_default (); | 15:07 |
| juliank | ▸ return g_network_monitor_get_network_available (network_monitor); | 15:07 |
| juliank | I wonder if you can have release series on pip | 15:08 |
| juliank | so you can say install python-apt for focal; or install python-apt 1.8.* | 15:08 |
| juliank | I don't know how that all works, so never published anything there | 15:08 |
| seb128 | juliank, it's only a system start issue though, if you restart the service things are working, so it somehow fail to refresh on interfaces changes | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | juliank: not usefully; last I checked, none of the defined environment markers were relevant | 15:09 |
| juliank | seb128: Yeah, I guess glib does not pick up new interfaces or something? | 15:10 |
| juliank | seb128: We did not have the complaints in hirsute, so is this a regression between glib 2.68.0/1 and 2.68.4? | 15:10 |
| seb128 | juliank, could be, but we are on the same glib stable serie than for hirsute, unsure if that changed in some point release? | 15:11 |
| seb128 | juliank, I will try to download glib see if that makes things better | 15:11 |
| seb128 | juliank, it's not glib, same issue with the hirsute deb installed | 15:18 |
| seb128 | I need to drop offline, will poke at it more later | 15:19 |
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