[01:00] <callmepk> good morning
[06:48] <jpnurmi> good morning
[06:52] <jibel> Good morning all
[06:52] <jpnurmi> hi callmepk and jibel
[06:53] <callmepk> hi jpnurmi jibel 
[07:04] <didrocks> good morning
[07:10] <jpnurmi> hi didrocks
[07:15] <didrocks> hey jpnurmi 
[07:15] <callmepk> hi didrocks 
[07:16] <ricotz> good morning :)
[07:16] <didrocks> hey callmepk, ricotz 
[07:16] <callmepk> hi ricotz 
[07:21] <jpnurmi> hey ricotz
[07:25] <jibel> hi jpnurmi callmepk didrocks ricotz 
[07:26] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[07:46] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:55] <didrocks> salut seb128 
[08:05] <seb128> didrocks, salut! en forme ?
[08:06] <didrocks> ça va, et toi ?
[08:14] <seb128> un peu fatigué mais ça va :)
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[11:24] <Wimpy> Hello o/
[11:24] <Wimpy> GunnarHj: Can you confirm https://pad.lv/1946499
[11:24] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1946499 in vte2.91 (Ubuntu) "installation of deb-packages with gdebi-gtk shows 'dpkg: error: unable to read filedescriptor flags for <package status and progress file descriptor>: Bad file descriptor' in gdebi terminal, package is not installed" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[11:30] <jbicha> Wimpy: see bug 1756238
[11:30] <ubottu> Bug 1756238 in gdebi (Ubuntu) "gdebi-gtk broken in 18.04 error: unable to read filedescriptor flags" [Medium, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756238
[11:30] <Wimpy> jbicha: I did.
[11:31] <Wimpy> 91_keep_fds.patch is still carried in vte-2.91
[13:47] <KGB-2> gspell tags 5ffb35c Laurent Bigonville upstream/1.9.1 * Upstream version 1.9.1 * https://deb.li/3lVqy
[13:48] <KGB-2> gspell upstream/latest afce187 Laurent Bigonville * pushed 10 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/KOez
[13:48] <KGB-2> gspell upstream/latest e409951 Juliano Camargo po/pt.po * Update Portuguese translation * https://deb.li/35MoM
[13:48] <KGB-2> gspell upstream/latest 5dec449 Sébastien Wilmet (9 files in 5 dirs) * icu: implement get_language_name_from_code() * https://deb.li/PXW1
[13:49] <KGB-2> gspell upstream/latest d5a8b72 Sébastien Wilmet README configure.ac gspell/gspell-language.c * language: remove iso-codes dependency and XML parsing code * https://deb.li/3cZ8N
[13:49] <KGB-2> gspell upstream/latest d481eef Sébastien Wilmet gspell/gspell-language.c * language: use _gspell_icu_get_language_name_from_code() * https://deb.li/6OLV
[13:49] <KGB-2> gspell upstream/latest 4b0928c Sébastien Wilmet docs/reference/Makefile.am gspell/Makefile.am gspell/gspell-init.c gspell/gspell-init.h * init: remove get_dll() * https://deb.li/iwcgg
[13:49] <KGB-2> gspell pristine-tar db2849a Laurent Bigonville gspell_1.9.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gspell_1.9.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gspell_1.9.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3Pc2s
[14:00] <kenvandine> Time for release bug triage!
[14:01] <seb128> hey kenvandine, jibel, desktopers!
[14:01] <seb128> let's get started :)
[14:01] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:02] <seb128> bug #1946196
[14:02] <ubottu> Bug 1946196 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "Additional Drivers fails with pk-client-error-quark: Cannot download packages whilst offline (257)" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946196
[14:02] <seb128> so that's fix commited now thank to Julian
[14:02] <seb128> basically glib nm integration was screwed, which made package think it was always offline
[14:03] <seb128> and as a result software-properties or snap-store failed to install debs, quite embarassing
[14:03] <kenvandine> ugh
[14:04] <seb128> that's it for incoming
[14:04] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:04] <kenvandine> is there a distro patch coming?
[14:05] <seb128> kenvandine, for glib?
[14:05] <kenvandine> yes
[14:05] <seb128> it's in impish-proposed for a few hours
[14:05] <kenvandine> great
[14:06] <kenvandine> ugh, flatpak cve
[14:06] <seb128> unsure how it will get to migrate though since autopkgtests are still under load from the no change rebuilds from some days ago
[14:06] <seb128> right :/
[14:07] <seb128> the other bugs seem under control and not important for release
[14:07] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:08] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:08] <seb128> no desktop one
[14:08] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:09] <seb128> the flatpak CVE one is the only unassigned which isn't fix commited or incomplete
[14:09] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:09] <seb128> no desktop
[14:09] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:10] <seb128> the flatpak one
[14:10] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:10] <seb128> no desktop
[14:10] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:10] <seb128> the flatpak one
[14:10] <seb128> and I think that's it
[14:11] <kenvandine> yeah, not bad
[14:11] <seb128> kenvandine, I'm going to mention that we default to xorg still on nvidia in impish but wayland is listed as an option now
[14:11] <kenvandine> oh... why is that?
[14:11] <seb128> that came a bit as a surprise to me yesterday but Marco said that him and Alberto agreed it was safer
[14:11] <seb128> unsure...
[14:11] <kenvandine> ok
[14:11] <seb128> tseliot-, ^ is that accurate?
[14:12] <kenvandine> we need to make sure the release notes are accurate
[14:12] <seb128> kenvandine, I'm mentioning to make sure we are clear about how we word the release notes
[14:12] <seb128> right
[14:15] <kenvandine> seb128: "Wayland sessions are now available while using the Nvidia proprietary driver."
[14:15] <kenvandine> looks like someone must have already edited that
[14:15] <seb128> 👍
[14:25] <kenvandine> hi localoptimum 
[14:25] <localoptimum> hey
[14:55]  * enyc curious about the state of various OSX-like-functionality linux-desktops, these days, and looking towards 22.04 LTS, suggesting starter things for friends stuck into older-OSX.
[15:12] <GunnarHj> Wimpy: I've looked at bug #1946499, and the experiment I did in a PPA tells us that the patch refresh itself didn't make the issue reappear. Something else seems to have happened upstream which makes the patch no longer sufficient to keep gdebi-gtk working.
[15:12] <ubottu> Bug 1946499 in vte2.91 (Ubuntu) "installation of deb-packages with gdebi-gtk shows 'dpkg: error: unable to read filedescriptor flags for <package status and progress file descriptor>: Bad file descriptor' in gdebi terminal, package is not installed" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946499
[15:45] <Wimpy> GunnarHj: Thanks for taking a look.
[18:44] <rbasak> Wimpy: around? Is there an official point of contact for Ubuntu MATE please?
[18:44] <rbasak> The TB wondered where we are up to with Boutique and third party PPAs.
[18:44] <rbasak> We're asking that it be resolved by Impish+1's release.
[18:45] <rbasak> So that way you have a complete cycle.
[18:45] <rbasak> Discussion here: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/09/14/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t19:01
[18:46] <rbasak> As it's been dragging on so long, we propose to make it final by then: that your plan to switch to snaps is complete by then, or at least the third party PPA by default is removed, or MATE doesn't ship as an official flavour. I hope that's reasonable.
[18:47] <rbasak> Is there somewhere I can send this request more formally?
[19:03] <Wimpy> rbasak: It's me. I saw. Expect an email on the ML in two weeks.
[19:04] <rbasak> Wimpy: thanks!