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linsuxhttps://imgur.com/a/PYlHEcy01:50
linsuxcannot upgrade no more01:50
sarnoldlinsux: why is lvm2-lvmpolld.socket masked?02:02
linsuxi don't know. i dont even use lvm202:02
linsuxvirus?02:02
sarnoldlinsux: oh. maybe purge it then?02:05
sarnoldI'm off for the night :) have fun02:05
linsuxgood night02:07
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CloudUserhow to do IPv6 Router Solicit02:22
CloudUserthegodsquirrel ;-)02:27
CloudUserdid you figure out how to do a router solicit on ipv603:44
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cpaelzerteward: intersting05:14
cpaelzerteward: that lua -dev package is in build deps05:14
cpaelzerteward: and as I wrote it builds fine in local sbuild but not on LP in a PPA05:15
cpaelzerteward: I was afraid of missing a dark secret of nginx building, but now that I know I won't waste time I'll just look into what is the difference of the two builds05:15
cpaelzerthanks!05:15
wrsuseroooh! what the heck are the "legacy-server" ISO's? :D06:01
wrsuserthat sounds exactly like what I'm after06:01
wrsuseraaaand also discontinued06:06
enycwrsuser: you are making me curious now06:18
lordievaderGood morning06:49
wrsuserenyc, ?06:55
enycwrsuser: what was the legacy server iso?06:57
lordievaderCloudUser: Take a look at the `rdisc6` tool.06:57
wrsuserenyc, basically 'ubuntu-20.04-server-amd64.iso' became 'ubuntu-20.04-legacy-server-amd64.iso' 06:57
wrsuseri.e. if you want the old debian-installer approach... rather than the whole subiquity/snap/make-your-skin-crawl 'live-server' approach06:58
enycwrsuser: oh I see, so installer now needs to be automated or GUI/X11-style ?06:58
wrsuserwhat? no06:59
enycwrsuser: live-server to me suggests GUI installer07:08
enycwrsuser: debian-installer suggests text-based, can complete via ssh / serial-console / etc07:08
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wrsuserenyc, yeah it's confusing that it's called 'live-server'09:20
wrsuserI think all it actually means is that it's a text-mode 'live' CD which immediately runs the subiquity text-mode snap-happy image-based abomination  09:21
wrsuserand with mini.iso/legacy-server/alternate-install ISO's all now either legacy or discontinued (none of which now exist with the latest versions of Ubuntu)...09:21
wrsuser... it's now 'live-server' or nothing when it comes to having a way of installing something minimal-ish (which is a joke when the ISO is 1.2GB) and building up09:22
enycI see09:24
wrsusershort version... if you're trying to make a server... use debian and their netinst ISO :P09:26
enychehe well at the moment  deb11 bullseye is current useful LTS distro09:27
enycthen ubuntu has their LTS next year  ...09:27
enycbeen very consistent odd/even years alternately for rather a long time now09:27
wrsusersee I normally only ever use Debian for servers and Ubuntu for desktops (usually Ubuntu MATE, from their main ISO - with everything pre-installed... although I normally select a 'minimal' install... which then stupidly has to uninstall stuff as the main install is now imaged based)09:31
wrsuserbut in this case I'm making a terminal server (using NoMachine's Workstation product... allows up to 4 people to connect into virtual desktops at once)... so it's kind of a server... but mostly a desktop.  Technically X.org isn't required (as NoMachine comes with it built in)... so I was thinking of using 'Ubuntu Sever' headless09:32
wrsuserbut the amount of absolutely useless stuff it comes with :(09:32
wrsuserI could go Debian... but since this'll mostly be a desktop - I just know someone will want to use a PPA at some point09:33
enycwrsuser: at what point will you have an army of servers and all sorts of different versions with shared-homes and allsorts ;p10:07
tewardcpaelzer: and now you know why i dropped the lua module in later nginx versions ;)12:48
cpaelzeroh yeah teward12:49
cpaelzerI got a glimpse of it at least12:49
tewardit used to rely on lua 5.1 but we finally torched that (for archs where luajit isnt present)12:49
cpaelzerand as I found "present" != "works"12:49
tewardyup.  because of the lua chaos12:49
cpaelzerit just - looking at these bug reports they seem so valid and I don't want ot let the users hang indefinetly12:50
tewardi dont disagree, but theres really a limited set of choices12:50
cpaelzerbetter I try it and if I fail hard we at least have a clear resaon to call it Won'T Fix12:50
tewardmodule upstream has said they cant move to 5.2 or newer Lua because its essentially a language rewrite and they wont move because luajit exists12:51
tewardand in even later the lua module requires resty core as well which is not something I/we? want to commit to after talking to rbasak12:51
tewardso, welcome to the age of Lua-less nginx in Ubuntu's repos by default :P12:51
cpaelzermost other packages have agreed on 5.3 for the time beeing, but there were already requests if we can move that - I hope that isn't again a full rewrite12:52
tewardlemme grab the original upstream report12:52
tewardalso stdby cause i'm on my phone xX12:52
cpaelzernp, I'll focus on something else and collect the links later12:52
cpaelzerThey are not too important, just to satisfy my curiosity12:53
tewardhttps://github.com/openresty/lua-nginx-module/issues/34312:53
ubottuIssue 343 in openresty/lua-nginx-module "Port this module to Lua 5.2" [Closed]12:53
tewardhttps://github.com/openresty/lua-nginx-module/issues/20412:53
ubottuIssue 204 in openresty/lua-nginx-module "Feature Request: Lua 5.2 Support" [Closed]12:53
tewardclosed, basically "wont fix"12:53
tewardanother reason to remove it12:53
tewardsince the module needs 5.1 abi and 5.2 introduced some... changes apparently that prevented reverse-compat12:54
tewardalso12:55
tewardhttps://openresty.org/en/faq.html#why-cant-i-use-lua-52-or-later12:55
teward5.1 ABI is ancient and... well, pretty dead.12:55
tewardsooooo12:55
tewardcpaelzer: ^^ links from when we originally made the request13:03
teward(we being Server Team)13:03
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