| linsux | https://imgur.com/a/PYlHEcy | 01:50 |
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| linsux | cannot upgrade no more | 01:50 |
| sarnold | linsux: why is lvm2-lvmpolld.socket masked? | 02:02 |
| linsux | i don't know. i dont even use lvm2 | 02:02 |
| linsux | virus? | 02:02 |
| sarnold | linsux: oh. maybe purge it then? | 02:05 |
| sarnold | I'm off for the night :) have fun | 02:05 |
| linsux | good night | 02:07 |
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| CloudUser | how to do IPv6 Router Solicit | 02:22 |
| CloudUser | thegodsquirrel ;-) | 02:27 |
| CloudUser | did you figure out how to do a router solicit on ipv6 | 03:44 |
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| cpaelzer | teward: intersting | 05:14 |
| cpaelzer | teward: that lua -dev package is in build deps | 05:14 |
| cpaelzer | teward: and as I wrote it builds fine in local sbuild but not on LP in a PPA | 05:15 |
| cpaelzer | teward: I was afraid of missing a dark secret of nginx building, but now that I know I won't waste time I'll just look into what is the difference of the two builds | 05:15 |
| cpaelzer | thanks! | 05:15 |
| wrsuser | oooh! what the heck are the "legacy-server" ISO's? :D | 06:01 |
| wrsuser | that sounds exactly like what I'm after | 06:01 |
| wrsuser | aaaand also discontinued | 06:06 |
| enyc | wrsuser: you are making me curious now | 06:18 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 06:49 |
| wrsuser | enyc, ? | 06:55 |
| enyc | wrsuser: what was the legacy server iso? | 06:57 |
| lordievader | CloudUser: Take a look at the `rdisc6` tool. | 06:57 |
| wrsuser | enyc, basically 'ubuntu-20.04-server-amd64.iso' became 'ubuntu-20.04-legacy-server-amd64.iso' | 06:57 |
| wrsuser | i.e. if you want the old debian-installer approach... rather than the whole subiquity/snap/make-your-skin-crawl 'live-server' approach | 06:58 |
| enyc | wrsuser: oh I see, so installer now needs to be automated or GUI/X11-style ? | 06:58 |
| wrsuser | what? no | 06:59 |
| enyc | wrsuser: live-server to me suggests GUI installer | 07:08 |
| enyc | wrsuser: debian-installer suggests text-based, can complete via ssh / serial-console / etc | 07:08 |
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| wrsuser | enyc, yeah it's confusing that it's called 'live-server' | 09:20 |
| wrsuser | I think all it actually means is that it's a text-mode 'live' CD which immediately runs the subiquity text-mode snap-happy image-based abomination | 09:21 |
| wrsuser | and with mini.iso/legacy-server/alternate-install ISO's all now either legacy or discontinued (none of which now exist with the latest versions of Ubuntu)... | 09:21 |
| wrsuser | ... it's now 'live-server' or nothing when it comes to having a way of installing something minimal-ish (which is a joke when the ISO is 1.2GB) and building up | 09:22 |
| enyc | I see | 09:24 |
| wrsuser | short version... if you're trying to make a server... use debian and their netinst ISO :P | 09:26 |
| enyc | hehe well at the moment deb11 bullseye is current useful LTS distro | 09:27 |
| enyc | then ubuntu has their LTS next year ... | 09:27 |
| enyc | been very consistent odd/even years alternately for rather a long time now | 09:27 |
| wrsuser | see I normally only ever use Debian for servers and Ubuntu for desktops (usually Ubuntu MATE, from their main ISO - with everything pre-installed... although I normally select a 'minimal' install... which then stupidly has to uninstall stuff as the main install is now imaged based) | 09:31 |
| wrsuser | but in this case I'm making a terminal server (using NoMachine's Workstation product... allows up to 4 people to connect into virtual desktops at once)... so it's kind of a server... but mostly a desktop. Technically X.org isn't required (as NoMachine comes with it built in)... so I was thinking of using 'Ubuntu Sever' headless | 09:32 |
| wrsuser | but the amount of absolutely useless stuff it comes with :( | 09:32 |
| wrsuser | I could go Debian... but since this'll mostly be a desktop - I just know someone will want to use a PPA at some point | 09:33 |
| enyc | wrsuser: at what point will you have an army of servers and all sorts of different versions with shared-homes and allsorts ;p | 10:07 |
| teward | cpaelzer: and now you know why i dropped the lua module in later nginx versions ;) | 12:48 |
| cpaelzer | oh yeah teward | 12:49 |
| cpaelzer | I got a glimpse of it at least | 12:49 |
| teward | it used to rely on lua 5.1 but we finally torched that (for archs where luajit isnt present) | 12:49 |
| cpaelzer | and as I found "present" != "works" | 12:49 |
| teward | yup. because of the lua chaos | 12:49 |
| cpaelzer | it just - looking at these bug reports they seem so valid and I don't want ot let the users hang indefinetly | 12:50 |
| teward | i dont disagree, but theres really a limited set of choices | 12:50 |
| cpaelzer | better I try it and if I fail hard we at least have a clear resaon to call it Won'T Fix | 12:50 |
| teward | module upstream has said they cant move to 5.2 or newer Lua because its essentially a language rewrite and they wont move because luajit exists | 12:51 |
| teward | and in even later the lua module requires resty core as well which is not something I/we? want to commit to after talking to rbasak | 12:51 |
| teward | so, welcome to the age of Lua-less nginx in Ubuntu's repos by default :P | 12:51 |
| cpaelzer | most other packages have agreed on 5.3 for the time beeing, but there were already requests if we can move that - I hope that isn't again a full rewrite | 12:52 |
| teward | lemme grab the original upstream report | 12:52 |
| teward | also stdby cause i'm on my phone xX | 12:52 |
| cpaelzer | np, I'll focus on something else and collect the links later | 12:52 |
| cpaelzer | They are not too important, just to satisfy my curiosity | 12:53 |
| teward | https://github.com/openresty/lua-nginx-module/issues/343 | 12:53 |
| ubottu | Issue 343 in openresty/lua-nginx-module "Port this module to Lua 5.2" [Closed] | 12:53 |
| teward | https://github.com/openresty/lua-nginx-module/issues/204 | 12:53 |
| ubottu | Issue 204 in openresty/lua-nginx-module "Feature Request: Lua 5.2 Support" [Closed] | 12:53 |
| teward | closed, basically "wont fix" | 12:53 |
| teward | another reason to remove it | 12:53 |
| teward | since the module needs 5.1 abi and 5.2 introduced some... changes apparently that prevented reverse-compat | 12:54 |
| teward | also | 12:55 |
| teward | https://openresty.org/en/faq.html#why-cant-i-use-lua-52-or-later | 12:55 |
| teward | 5.1 ABI is ancient and... well, pretty dead. | 12:55 |
| teward | sooooo | 12:55 |
| teward | cpaelzer: ^^ links from when we originally made the request | 13:03 |
| teward | (we being Server Team) | 13:03 |
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