[01:50] <linsux> https://imgur.com/a/PYlHEcy
[01:50] <linsux> cannot upgrade no more
[02:02] <sarnold> linsux: why is lvm2-lvmpolld.socket masked?
[02:02] <linsux> i don't know. i dont even use lvm2
[02:02] <linsux> virus?
[02:05] <sarnold> linsux: oh. maybe purge it then?
[02:05] <sarnold> I'm off for the night :) have fun
[02:07] <linsux> good night
[02:22] <CloudUser> how to do IPv6 Router Solicit
[02:27] <CloudUser> thegodsquirrel ;-)
[03:44] <CloudUser> did you figure out how to do a router solicit on ipv6
[05:14] <cpaelzer> teward: intersting
[05:14] <cpaelzer> teward: that lua -dev package is in build deps
[05:15] <cpaelzer> teward: and as I wrote it builds fine in local sbuild but not on LP in a PPA
[05:15] <cpaelzer> teward: I was afraid of missing a dark secret of nginx building, but now that I know I won't waste time I'll just look into what is the difference of the two builds
[05:15] <cpaelzer> thanks!
[06:01] <wrsuser> oooh! what the heck are the "legacy-server" ISO's? :D
[06:01] <wrsuser> that sounds exactly like what I'm after
[06:06] <wrsuser> aaaand also discontinued
[06:18] <enyc> wrsuser: you are making me curious now
[06:49] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:55] <wrsuser> enyc, ?
[06:57] <enyc> wrsuser: what was the legacy server iso?
[06:57] <lordievader> CloudUser: Take a look at the `rdisc6` tool.
[06:57] <wrsuser> enyc, basically 'ubuntu-20.04-server-amd64.iso' became 'ubuntu-20.04-legacy-server-amd64.iso' 
[06:58] <wrsuser> i.e. if you want the old debian-installer approach... rather than the whole subiquity/snap/make-your-skin-crawl 'live-server' approach
[06:58] <enyc> wrsuser: oh I see, so installer now needs to be automated or GUI/X11-style ?
[06:59] <wrsuser> what? no
[07:08] <enyc> wrsuser: live-server to me suggests GUI installer
[07:08] <enyc> wrsuser: debian-installer suggests text-based, can complete via ssh / serial-console / etc
[09:20] <wrsuser> enyc, yeah it's confusing that it's called 'live-server'
[09:21] <wrsuser> I think all it actually means is that it's a text-mode 'live' CD which immediately runs the subiquity text-mode snap-happy image-based abomination  
[09:21] <wrsuser> and with mini.iso/legacy-server/alternate-install ISO's all now either legacy or discontinued (none of which now exist with the latest versions of Ubuntu)...
[09:22] <wrsuser> ... it's now 'live-server' or nothing when it comes to having a way of installing something minimal-ish (which is a joke when the ISO is 1.2GB) and building up
[09:24] <enyc> I see
[09:26] <wrsuser> short version... if you're trying to make a server... use debian and their netinst ISO :P
[09:27] <enyc> hehe well at the moment  deb11 bullseye is current useful LTS distro
[09:27] <enyc> then ubuntu has their LTS next year  ...
[09:27] <enyc> been very consistent odd/even years alternately for rather a long time now
[09:31] <wrsuser> see I normally only ever use Debian for servers and Ubuntu for desktops (usually Ubuntu MATE, from their main ISO - with everything pre-installed... although I normally select a 'minimal' install... which then stupidly has to uninstall stuff as the main install is now imaged based)
[09:32] <wrsuser> but in this case I'm making a terminal server (using NoMachine's Workstation product... allows up to 4 people to connect into virtual desktops at once)... so it's kind of a server... but mostly a desktop.  Technically X.org isn't required (as NoMachine comes with it built in)... so I was thinking of using 'Ubuntu Sever' headless
[09:32] <wrsuser> but the amount of absolutely useless stuff it comes with :(
[09:33] <wrsuser> I could go Debian... but since this'll mostly be a desktop - I just know someone will want to use a PPA at some point
[10:07] <enyc> wrsuser: at what point will you have an army of servers and all sorts of different versions with shared-homes and allsorts ;p
[12:48] <teward> cpaelzer: and now you know why i dropped the lua module in later nginx versions ;)
[12:49] <cpaelzer> oh yeah teward
[12:49] <cpaelzer> I got a glimpse of it at least
[12:49] <teward> it used to rely on lua 5.1 but we finally torched that (for archs where luajit isnt present)
[12:49] <cpaelzer> and as I found "present" != "works"
[12:49] <teward> yup.  because of the lua chaos
[12:50] <cpaelzer> it just - looking at these bug reports they seem so valid and I don't want ot let the users hang indefinetly
[12:50] <teward> i dont disagree, but theres really a limited set of choices
[12:50] <cpaelzer> better I try it and if I fail hard we at least have a clear resaon to call it Won'T Fix
[12:51] <teward> module upstream has said they cant move to 5.2 or newer Lua because its essentially a language rewrite and they wont move because luajit exists
[12:51] <teward> and in even later the lua module requires resty core as well which is not something I/we? want to commit to after talking to rbasak
[12:51] <teward> so, welcome to the age of Lua-less nginx in Ubuntu's repos by default :P
[12:52] <cpaelzer> most other packages have agreed on 5.3 for the time beeing, but there were already requests if we can move that - I hope that isn't again a full rewrite
[12:52] <teward> lemme grab the original upstream report
[12:52] <teward> also stdby cause i'm on my phone xX
[12:52] <cpaelzer> np, I'll focus on something else and collect the links later
[12:53] <cpaelzer> They are not too important, just to satisfy my curiosity
[12:53] <teward> https://github.com/openresty/lua-nginx-module/issues/343
[12:53] <teward> https://github.com/openresty/lua-nginx-module/issues/204
[12:53] <teward> closed, basically "wont fix"
[12:53] <teward> another reason to remove it
[12:54] <teward> since the module needs 5.1 abi and 5.2 introduced some... changes apparently that prevented reverse-compat
[12:55] <teward> also
[12:55] <teward> https://openresty.org/en/faq.html#why-cant-i-use-lua-52-or-later
[12:55] <teward> 5.1 ABI is ancient and... well, pretty dead.
[12:55] <teward> sooooo
[13:03] <teward> cpaelzer: ^^ links from when we originally made the request
[13:03] <teward> (we being Server Team)