[01:50] https://imgur.com/a/PYlHEcy [01:50] cannot upgrade no more [02:02] linsux: why is lvm2-lvmpolld.socket masked? [02:02] i don't know. i dont even use lvm2 [02:02] virus? [02:05] linsux: oh. maybe purge it then? [02:05] I'm off for the night :) have fun [02:07] good night === genii is now known as genii-core [02:22] how to do IPv6 Router Solicit [02:27] thegodsquirrel ;-) [03:44] did you figure out how to do a router solicit on ipv6 === BOWnbERTHA6 is now known as BOWnbERTHA [05:14] teward: intersting [05:14] teward: that lua -dev package is in build deps [05:15] teward: and as I wrote it builds fine in local sbuild but not on LP in a PPA [05:15] teward: I was afraid of missing a dark secret of nginx building, but now that I know I won't waste time I'll just look into what is the difference of the two builds [05:15] thanks! [06:01] oooh! what the heck are the "legacy-server" ISO's? :D [06:01] that sounds exactly like what I'm after [06:06] aaaand also discontinued [06:18] wrsuser: you are making me curious now [06:49] Good morning [06:55] enyc, ? [06:57] wrsuser: what was the legacy server iso? [06:57] CloudUser: Take a look at the `rdisc6` tool. [06:57] enyc, basically 'ubuntu-20.04-server-amd64.iso' became 'ubuntu-20.04-legacy-server-amd64.iso' [06:58] i.e. if you want the old debian-installer approach... rather than the whole subiquity/snap/make-your-skin-crawl 'live-server' approach [06:58] wrsuser: oh I see, so installer now needs to be automated or GUI/X11-style ? [06:59] what? no [07:08] wrsuser: live-server to me suggests GUI installer [07:08] wrsuser: debian-installer suggests text-based, can complete via ssh / serial-console / etc === shokohsc88 is now known as shokohsc8 === akaWolf1_ is now known as akaWolf === ivoks_ is now known as ivoks === waveform_ is now known as waveform === mybalzit1h is now known as mybalzitch === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [09:20] enyc, yeah it's confusing that it's called 'live-server' [09:21] I think all it actually means is that it's a text-mode 'live' CD which immediately runs the subiquity text-mode snap-happy image-based abomination [09:21] and with mini.iso/legacy-server/alternate-install ISO's all now either legacy or discontinued (none of which now exist with the latest versions of Ubuntu)... [09:22] ... it's now 'live-server' or nothing when it comes to having a way of installing something minimal-ish (which is a joke when the ISO is 1.2GB) and building up [09:24] I see [09:26] short version... if you're trying to make a server... use debian and their netinst ISO :P [09:27] hehe well at the moment deb11 bullseye is current useful LTS distro [09:27] then ubuntu has their LTS next year ... [09:27] been very consistent odd/even years alternately for rather a long time now [09:31] see I normally only ever use Debian for servers and Ubuntu for desktops (usually Ubuntu MATE, from their main ISO - with everything pre-installed... although I normally select a 'minimal' install... which then stupidly has to uninstall stuff as the main install is now imaged based) [09:32] but in this case I'm making a terminal server (using NoMachine's Workstation product... allows up to 4 people to connect into virtual desktops at once)... so it's kind of a server... but mostly a desktop. Technically X.org isn't required (as NoMachine comes with it built in)... so I was thinking of using 'Ubuntu Sever' headless [09:32] but the amount of absolutely useless stuff it comes with :( [09:33] I could go Debian... but since this'll mostly be a desktop - I just know someone will want to use a PPA at some point [10:07] wrsuser: at what point will you have an army of servers and all sorts of different versions with shared-homes and allsorts ;p [12:48] cpaelzer: and now you know why i dropped the lua module in later nginx versions ;) [12:49] oh yeah teward [12:49] I got a glimpse of it at least [12:49] it used to rely on lua 5.1 but we finally torched that (for archs where luajit isnt present) [12:49] and as I found "present" != "works" [12:49] yup. because of the lua chaos [12:50] it just - looking at these bug reports they seem so valid and I don't want ot let the users hang indefinetly [12:50] i dont disagree, but theres really a limited set of choices [12:50] better I try it and if I fail hard we at least have a clear resaon to call it Won'T Fix [12:51] module upstream has said they cant move to 5.2 or newer Lua because its essentially a language rewrite and they wont move because luajit exists [12:51] and in even later the lua module requires resty core as well which is not something I/we? want to commit to after talking to rbasak [12:51] so, welcome to the age of Lua-less nginx in Ubuntu's repos by default :P [12:52] most other packages have agreed on 5.3 for the time beeing, but there were already requests if we can move that - I hope that isn't again a full rewrite [12:52] lemme grab the original upstream report [12:52] also stdby cause i'm on my phone xX [12:52] np, I'll focus on something else and collect the links later [12:53] They are not too important, just to satisfy my curiosity [12:53] https://github.com/openresty/lua-nginx-module/issues/343 [12:53] Issue 343 in openresty/lua-nginx-module "Port this module to Lua 5.2" [Closed] [12:53] https://github.com/openresty/lua-nginx-module/issues/204 [12:53] Issue 204 in openresty/lua-nginx-module "Feature Request: Lua 5.2 Support" [Closed] [12:53] closed, basically "wont fix" [12:53] another reason to remove it [12:54] since the module needs 5.1 abi and 5.2 introduced some... changes apparently that prevented reverse-compat [12:55] also [12:55] https://openresty.org/en/faq.html#why-cant-i-use-lua-52-or-later [12:55] 5.1 ABI is ancient and... well, pretty dead. [12:55] sooooo [13:03] cpaelzer: ^^ links from when we originally made the request [13:03] (we being Server Team) === mdeslaur__ is now known as mdeslaur === genii-core is now known as genii === Poster` is now known as Poster === JanC_ is now known as JanC === genii is now known as genii-core