[00:40] <frederic_02> méfier vous les distribution linux font l'objet de hack bien ficelé
[01:16] <test> hi
[01:22] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[01:23] <Umeaboy> Not to sound rude, but aren't we supposed to be getting the new release now? It is the 14th of October here.
[01:24] <Umeaboy> I did sudo do-release-upgrade and I got the answer that there is no new release.
[01:24] <leftyfb> Umeaboy: it is planned to be released on the 14th. If it turns into October 15th, feel free to complain in #ubuntu+1
[01:24] <sarnold> you could subscribe to this list https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce and then just wait until you get the email :)
[01:24] <leftyfb> Umeaboy: as of right now, they are still on schedule
[01:24] <Umeaboy> leftyfb: No problem. Just wondering if there's something wrong. I guess it's a matter of syncing.
[01:25] <sarnold> or run do-release-upgrade -d and get it moments before everyone else..
[01:26] <Umeaboy> sarnold: Is it safe to do so? I thought the -d flag is only meant to be used for development releases.
[01:30] <sarnold> Umeaboy: there's probably nothing hugely unsafe left
[01:31] <leftyfb> last words :)
[01:33] <Umeaboy> I'll just wait I guess.
[01:34] <Umeaboy> Patience is a virtue. :)
[01:35] <Umeaboy> Have anyone of you had any problems installing thunderbird-trunk from the daily PPA? It seems to be missing.
[01:36] <leftyfb> Umeaboy: install from snap if you need it the latest
[01:36] <leftyfb> Umeaboy: the PPA isn't supported here
[01:38] <Umeaboy> OK.
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[06:02] <mostafa> how set highest compression rate for zip archive?
[06:12] <mybalzitch> -9
[06:14] <mostafa> @mybalzitch yeah thanks.
[06:31] <jishu> hllo
[06:32] <EriC^^> hello jishu
[06:32] <jishu> you are greek
[06:32] <EriC^^> no
[06:32] <jishu> oh then
[06:32] <jishu> never mind
[06:32] <jishu> why do you use linux
[06:33] <EriC^^> !topic | jishu
[06:33] <ubottu> jishu: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[06:33] <morganu> Casual conversation goes in #ubuntu-offtopic - this is a support channel. Thanks.
[06:33] <jishu> ok sorry man
[06:33] <EriC^^> no worries
[06:34] <morganu> see ya in offtopic
[06:34] <jishu> whenever i try to record screen in wayland i can not record my screen
[06:35] <jishu> it shows black screen
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[08:05] <saiiden> hello
[08:05] <saiiden> when is the new update releasing?
[08:06] <tomreyn> we do not know, but...
[08:06] <tomreyn> !isitoutyet
[08:06] <ubottu> Nah, Ubuntu 21.10 is not released yet, but you are welcome to anticipate it in #ubuntu-release-party
[08:07] <tomreyn> if you were asking in terms of days, not hours, then: it's planned for today.
[08:14] <boblamont> If I'm installing to a new partition on a drive that already had an installation on it, what mount point and flag options should I pick creating the new partition?
[08:16] <boblamont> I briefly lost my connection in cast anyone answered my question
[08:18] <EriC^^> boblamont: the new partition would be '/' in the partitioner in the installer, and you just need to set it to be ext4
[08:19] <EriC^^> (/ is the mountpoint)
[08:24] <boblamont> EriC^^: Do I set the boot flag?
[08:26] <mgedmin> boblamont: it shouldn't be necessary but it won't hurt either
[08:27] <mgedmin> (the boot flag is important when you install GRUB into the partition's boot sector instead of the MBR, and the default MBR goes through all the primary partitions looking for the boot flag to chain-load the next bootloader)
[08:27] <mgedmin> (the ubuntu installer defaults to installing GRUB directly into the MBR)
[08:29] <boblamont> mgedmin: I don't know how the boot was set up for the old installation, so I don't want to screw anything up that will conflict
[08:31] <asanto> Hi everyone!
[08:31] <asanto> How to find out why mail command not sending mail if there is no -v option, /var/log doesn't have any file or dirs named like mail / sendmail / postfix / exim and there is nothing like 'mail' in home dir?
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[08:32] <mgedmin> asanto: journalctl?
[08:32] <mgedmin> also, what MTA do you have installed?
[08:33] <asanto> I have sendmail and postfix
[08:33] <mgedmin> postfix should be logging to /var/log/mail.log
[08:34] <mgedmin> I don't think you can have both sendmail and postfix installed at the same time, but the postfix package provides a /usr/sbin/sendmail
[08:34] <asanto> journalctl return  No journal files were found.
[08:34] <asanto> -- No entries --
[08:34] <mgedmin> sudo journalctl?
[08:35] <asanto> so it's definitely postfix
[08:35] <mgedmin> you could run mailq and see if any outgoing emails are stuck in the queue (plus the reason why)
[08:35] <asanto> sudo journalctl still nothing (
[08:36] <mgedmin> okay, an empty journal is very strange but maybe let's not start solving two problems at the same time
[08:36] <mgedmin> what ubuntu version is this?
[08:36] <asanto> mailq do the job, thanks !
[08:39] <boblamont> I just tried to go on with the partition and I got a warning: An EFI system partition is necessary to start Lubuntu. To configure an EFI system partition go back and select or create a FAT32 filesystem with the sp flag enabled and mount point /boot/efi you can continue without setting up an EFI system partition but your system may fail to start"
[08:40] <mgedmin> yeah, it does that
[08:40] <boblamont> mgedmin: give the warning or fail to start?
[08:41] <mgedmin> even if you use legacy boot, the installer wants to set up an EFI boot loader, in case you decide to switch to UEFI boot later
[08:41] <mgedmin> I've seen open bugs asking for the installer to please support legacy-only boot use cases without requiring an EFI system partition
[08:41] <mgedmin> easiest would be to do what it says and create a small (say 256 MB) EFI partition
[08:42] <boblamont> I can do that
[08:42] <boblamont> thanks
[08:44] <bobdobbs> Hi all. Can anyone suggest a screenshot tool that will let me select an area of the screen?
[08:45] <saiiden> yes
[08:45] <saiiden> i think you dont need to install anything
[08:47] <bobdobbs> saiiden: I'm aware of the built-in tool, for which you can hit the printscreen button. But that captures everything. I'm looking for a tool that lets you select an area.
[08:47] <mgedmin> shift+printscreen lets you select an area
[08:47] <saiiden> no
[08:47] <saiiden> mgedmin is right
[08:47] <saiiden> go to keyboard shortcuts in settings
[08:47] <mgedmin> alt-printscreen captures the current window
[08:48] <saiiden> and make changes to your convenience
[08:49] <bobdobbs> oh cool
[08:49] <bobdobbs> thanks :)
[08:49] <saiiden> domo arigathogozaimaasu
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[08:51] <boblamont> mgedmin: I don't see an esp flag option
[08:55] <mgedmin> the error message you pasted called it "sp flag"
[08:57] <boblamont> mgedmin: it isn't a paste, I'm on a different computer. That was a typo.
[08:58] <mgedmin> ah, hm
[08:58] <mgedmin> I don't remember how the installer's partitioning tool looks like
[08:59] <boblamont> I googled the error and found this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1230596/ubuntudde-remix-20-04-installation-manual-partitioning-stuck
[08:59] <boblamont> the answer says it can be flagged "boot" or "esp" so I'll try boot and see if it makes the warning go away
[08:59] <bob_x1> is there any right documentation place , to read how to set up new ubuntu service
[09:02] <tomreyn> bob_x1: what kind of ubuntu service?
[09:02] <tomreyn> there is https://help.ubuntu.com and https://manpages.ubuntu.com if that's what you mean
[09:02] <bob_x1> tomreyn: in my ubuntu os i want to run my app which will start automatically and have built in logrotation and so on. so like a daemon
[09:03] <tomreyn> bob_x1: you want to write a systemd unit file.
[09:03] <bob_x1> yeah seems so. systemd unit
[09:03] <bob_x1> found systemd.service manual
[09:04] <boblamont> it took "boot" and is progressing with the partioning/installation, yay, thanks
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[09:17] <tomreyn> boblamont: note that "Ubuntu DDE" is not an official flavor (yet?), thus nt supported here: https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours
[09:22] <bobdobbs> huh. I didn't know about "flavours".
[09:22] <bobdobbs> Ubuntu Studio looks pretty cool
[09:24] <bob_x1> how can I make a systemd.service to run after a specific service starts. it's like a dependency. it requires database for example
[09:26] <tomreyn> After=
[09:27] <bob_x1> so it's only with dbus type ?
[09:28] <tomreyn> hmm?
[09:28] <bob_x1> ah no i see redis service file is type=fork
[09:28] <bob_x1> why does systemd uses Capital case for config options ?
[09:29] <tomreyn> because that's how it was designed
[09:29] <bob_x1> wherease almost everywhere capital is not being used
[09:29] <bob_x1> yeah thats about creators
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[10:09] <osa1> Ubuntu GNOME (https://ubuntugnome.org/) claims to be an official flavor of Ubuntu, but it's not listed in https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours. It is really official? Why is it not listed in the flavours page?
[10:12] <ogra> osa1, with the default desktop in Ubuntu being gnome again it did not make sense for it to exist ... there is a "gnome-session" package, just install that and you get the default gnome session
[10:12] <tuxifreund> osa1: It was one while Ubuntu was using Unity, I think webpage is outdated
[10:12] <ThinkT510> osa1: the wiki says it is official but I expect it is outdated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME
[10:12] <ogra> the webpage is fine but could use a notice at the top 🙂
[10:13] <ogra> (since the info about "please use Ubuntu proper from 18.04 onwards" is a bit hidden further down)
[10:14] <tomreyn> https://ubuntugnome.org/download/ "Ubuntu GNOME 17.04 is now available."
[10:14] <osa1> ah, didn't know Ubuntu is using GNOME again as the default DE, thanks
[10:18] <osa1> Anyone here have experience with using https://github.com/i3-gnome/i3-gnome with Ubuntu 21.04?
[10:20] <TheBigK> isnt ubuntu 21.10 supposed to come out today?
[10:21] <tomreyn> osa1: i don't, but note that 21.04 has 3 months orf support left. if you're going to install the latest stable ubuntu release, better wait until tomorrow, when 21.10 should be available (if things are going as planned)
[10:22] <osa1> OK, thanks. Will wait for 21.10
[10:22] <osa1> Hopefully laptop's suspend will work with 21.10 (does not work with 20.04 LTS)
[10:24] <tomreyn> suspend is often sketchy on laptops
[10:24] <tomreyn> updating the system firmwares ('BIOS' primarily) may help, usually doesn't make things worse.
[10:24] <tomreyn> !acpi_osi
[10:24] <ubottu> If your system is unstable or power management does not work well and logs show ACPI issues, you can try to make the Linux kernel pretend it was Windows during boot (which can help on hardware which was only tested with Windows): http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[10:24] <osa1> It used to work with 18.04, then I made the mistake of installing (not upgrading!) 20.04
[10:32] <ravage> if you need to install a system now 21.10 should be totally fine. you just have to wait until the release to get support for it here :)
[10:42] <webchat66> hello, so i'm creating a vault inside Kubuntu and come across where it says "mount point" and "encrypted data location" someone please explain to me what's amount point
[10:43] <mgedmin> a mount point is a directory (inside the container) where the decrypted contents of your vault will show up, presumably
[10:44] <mgedmin> (please pretend I didn't say "inside the container", I was thinking of Kubernetes oops ;)
[10:47] <webchat66> so from what i undertsand encrypted data directory is where i can move the files i want to encrypt and the mount point is where i can find the files after unlocking the encryption? mgedmin
[10:47] <mgedmin> no, I think encrypted data directory is where the vault will store encrypted files
[10:48] <mgedmin> so you move the files into the mountpoint and vault encrypts them, then stores the encrypted data in the other location
[10:48]  * mgedmin has never used this
[10:49] <webchat66> mgedmin i'm thinking of storing them both on the same disk near each other what do you think?
[10:49] <webchat66> mgedmin by the way all my disks need to be mounted everytime i restart my laptop
[10:49] <webchat66> except for system and home partitions
[10:51] <bobdobbs> Not sure if this is off-topic or not: can anyone recommend an xmpp client that can be configured to run through tor, and can be installed on ubuntu 20.04
[10:54] <tomreyn> bobdobbs: i'm not sure of one which has native socks support, but you can probably run most through torsocks
[10:55] <bobdobbs> tomreyn: thanks
[11:06] <dbristow> Is ubuntu 21.10 still expected to release today?
[11:09] <ducasse> webchat66: you only store the encrypted volume, the mountpoint is just a 'pointer' to the unencrypted data, it doesn't take any space
[11:12] <tomreyn> dbristow: this may depend on your timezone
[11:13] <webchat66> ducasse: i tried to do a test and checked both folders spaces - both added up on files but one is bigger than the other
[11:13] <webchat66> encrypted data location folder is bigger
[11:14] <Jakdaw> Anyone know why trying to do-release-update a host from focal->bionic fails immediately atm? Tells me: Err Upgrade tool 503  Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.88.152 80] WARNING:root:file 'focal.tar.gz' missing
[11:14] <Jakdaw> Same is true even if I switch to another mirror
[11:14] <tomreyn>  focal->bionic would be a release downgrade
[11:15] <dbristow> tomreyn, It's just that even ubuntu.com doesn't list it yet.
[11:15] <dbristow> And everywhere I look I still only see the beta
[11:15] <tomreyn> dbristow: it's not released, yet, that's why.
[11:15] <tomreyn> !isitoutyet | dbristow
[11:15] <ubottu> dbristow: Nah, Ubuntu 21.10 is not released yet, but you are welcome to anticipate it in #ubuntu-release-party
[11:16] <tomreyn> Jakdaw: do you have a http proxy configuration there?
[11:18] <tomreyn> Jakdaw: the url this would be downloading from is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/focal.tar.gz in case it helps
[11:19] <Jakdaw> tomreyn ok good point, other way around! hmmm might be local filtering on my side then
[11:20] <tomreyn> Jakdaw: here's a test to emulate that download:   curl --resolve archive.ubuntu.com:80:91.189.88.152 --output /tmp/focal.tar.gz http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/focal.tar.gz
[11:51] <President_Busine> hello
[11:55] <^-^hi> how many packages are on ubuntu repos?
[11:57] <ravage> ^-^hi: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/allpackages?format=txt.gz thats for 20.04 without -updates and so on. hf counting. all packages at: https://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:04] <mgedmin> apt-cache stats tells me: Total package names: 108022
[12:05] <mgedmin> apparently 68078 of those are "normal packages"
[12:06] <ravage> depends on what sources you enabled for your ubuntu version.
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[12:26] <arkanoid> since my last apt upgrade on my ubuntu box, my terminal is barking
[12:27] <mgedmin> what do you mean by "barking"?
[12:27] <mgedmin> woof woof?
[12:28] <mgedmin> dog noises coming out of speakers?
[12:28] <Gesualdo> hi
[12:29] <Gesualdo> what time is it scheduled 21.10?
[12:30] <leftyfb> Gesualdo: it's not. It's scheduled for 10/14/21
[12:31] <leftyfb> Gesualdo: since today is till 10/14/21, they are still on schedule.
[12:31] <mgedmin> looking at https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/impish-indri-21-10-release-status-tracking/24478/2, it'll probably take anoher 6 hours
[12:31] <leftyfb> !party | Gesualdo
[12:31] <ubottu> Gesualdo: Please remember that our support channels are for technical support and not general chat. To countdown to !impish release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party. Thank you! :)
[12:31] <Gesualdo> many thaks leftyfb
[12:32] <tomreyn> arkanoid: you can disable this in settings -> sound -> system sounds
[12:34] <arkanoid> mgedmin: exactly, I've a new dog in my laptop
[12:34] <arkanoid> tomreyn: sure, I was just puzzled XD
[12:41] <CoolerX> I did apt install sysvinit-utils
[12:41] <CoolerX> sudo apt-get install sysvinit-utils
[12:41] <CoolerX> but I still set service command not found
[12:41] <CoolerX> get*
[12:42] <leftyfb> CoolerX: why are you installing that package? On what version of ubuntu?
[12:42] <mgedmin> is /usr/sbin in your PATH?
[12:42] <CoolerX> actually wait when I do sudo service it finds it
[12:42] <CoolerX> seems it's only for root users
[12:43] <mgedmin> tbh Ubuntu's default PATH contains both /usr/bin and /usr/sbin, unlike, say, Debian
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[13:01] <rud0lf> FrodoTheHalfbit
[13:03] <leftyfb> rud0lf: do you need help with something?
[13:07] <C4rl0x> is this a good place? :)
[13:07] <leftyfb> C4rl0x: for?
[13:07] <C4rl0x> i dunno? :D
[13:07] <C4rl0x> i like it, so far!
[13:09] <leftyfb> C4rl0x: this is a support channel for ubuntu. Do you have a support question?
[13:11] <ogra> /join #ubuntu-release-party
[13:11] <ogra> OOPS !
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[13:26] <webchat6> !ping
[13:26] <ubottu> pong!
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[14:01] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:22] <vitalkanev> >> Release hype mode activated! <<
[14:37] <j2bv16> Today its a good day
[14:39]  * Juan wishes #ubuntu a nice release day!
[14:43] <leftyfb> !party
[14:43] <ubottu> Please remember that our support channels are for technical support and not general chat. To countdown to !impish release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party. Thank you! :)
[14:47] <ubuntu46> hi all i've got an ubuntu server 20.04 install on a virtualbox vm set up. im running a mutillidae docker instance and i've set a static IP on my server. I cant get the server to ping the host or the host to ping the server.
[14:47] <ubuntu46> the server also cannot ping the router/gateway
[14:47] <ubuntu46> can anyone help me figure this out?
[14:47] <ubuntu46> vm networking is setup as simple NAT for the VM
[14:47] <ubuntu46> it was obtaining ( a dhcp i assume?) ip address on its default interface in the 10.0.2.X/24 range which is outside the scope of my DHCP router.
[14:47] <ubuntu46> er... DHCP scope
[14:48] <leftyfb> ubuntu46: if you want the VM to be on the same network subnet as your host and other machines on your network, you'll need to reconfigure the VM settings for bridge instead of NAT
[14:49] <ubuntu46> i've seen that online, but i dont understand why that is... can you help elucidate that for me? because NAT has always worked in the past?
[14:49] <ubuntu46> was i just not having it setup right?
[14:50] <ubuntu46> also this is a vulnerable VM i dont want it to be exposed to the internet... just the LAN. will bridge work for that?
[14:50] <leftyfb> ubuntu46: https://linuxhint.com/use-virtualbox-bridged-adapter/
[14:51] <leftyfb> ubuntu46: you'll have to limit it's access to the internet by other means, potentially a firewall on the guest like ufw
[14:51] <ubuntu46> ok
[14:53] <ubuntu46> ok i changed my network settings to bridged and the host can ping the guest vm but the guest vm cant reach the host? let me check host IP
[14:53] <leftyfb> ubuntu46: does the guest have an ip address from your network or one of the internal virtualbox ip's?
[14:54] <ubuntu46> well it should be a netplan static IP that i set in the etc/netplan/00-<config file here>
[14:55] <ubuntu46> yeah its still the static ip i set in the netplan config file
[14:56] <ubuntu46> however nslookup isnt returning the servers hostname, nor is a dig
[14:57] <ubuntu46> oh and my DNS server, router/gateway, are responding to ping now
[14:58] <leftyfb> ubuntu46: if you want it on the same network as the host and other devices on the network with a bridged network interface then it needs an ip address from said network. Either change the static ip to one from the local network or set it to DHCP(DHCP might be a good way to test if it's working ok first)
[15:08] <bittin> Stable Ubuntu 21.10 out for download https://releases.ubuntu.com/21.10/ubuntu-21.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[15:09] <leftyfb> bittin: please don't
[15:09] <bittin> sorry?
[15:10] <oerheks> the official release is not announced, you just found one synced mirror
[15:10] <leftyfb> bittin: not only is this not the place for it, until it has been official released(it hasn't), then nothing is released yet
[15:10] <bittin> oh
[15:10] <oerheks> :-)
[15:10] <j2bv16> Let the man be happy and send him to #Ubuntu-release-party
[15:11] <oerheks> party!
[15:11] <Lumpio-> This channel is reserved for Canonical sanctioned messages only apparently.
[15:12] <ogra> Lumpio-, huh ? canonical has no say in this channel
[15:12] <leftyfb> Lumpio-: no, this channel is a support channel. Not release announcements. That is what the ubuntu-announce mailing list and #ubuntu-release-party is for
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[15:13] <Lumpio-> Is there like an official list of topics allowed somewhere
[15:13] <leftyfb> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2021-October/thread.html   this is where the announcement will be made official https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2021-October/thread.html
[15:14] <leftyfb> Lumpio-: ubuntu support is the topic for this channel
[15:14] <ogra> Lumpio-, all support questions are allowed here
[15:14] <Lumpio-> mm-hm
[15:14] <Lumpio-> So questions only huh
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[15:15] <ogra> Lumpio-, general chatter -> #ubuntu-offtopic ... wider ubuntu discussions -> #ubuntu-discuss
[15:15] <ravage> you are half-way there. that was a question (without a ? though) but still not support related :)
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[15:37] <venaklativ> It can take some time for upgrader to detect Impish, per https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
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[16:11] <CVirus> I choose "Main Server" in my update-manager settings and chose to be notified on every new release, and I'm still not getting prompted to upgrade to 21.04. Am I missing something here?
[16:12] <oerheks> CVirus, no, the upgrade path is not out yet, as usual it takes a few days
[16:12] <oerheks> only the iso is out
[16:12] <leftyfb> oerheks: "21.04"
[16:12] <CVirus> ah got that. Thanks a lot!
[16:13] <leftyfb> CVirus: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:13] <CVirus> 21.04
[16:13] <leftyfb> CVirus: ok, so you are asking about upgrading to 21.10 which hasn't been released yet
[16:13] <oerheks> oops, the iso is not out yet.
[16:14] <CVirus> sorry, I misstyped 21.04 earlier. I meant upgrade to 21.10
[16:14] <oerheks> i automaticly assumed 21.10
[16:14] <CVirus> :D
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[17:06] <zen___> .
[17:07] <ogra> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2021-October/000274.html
[17:15] <ravage> !isitout
[17:15] <ubottu> Yeees! Ubuntu 21.10 is OUT! Celebrate in #ubuntu-release-party 🎉
[17:18] <leftyfb> ravage: this isn't th place
[17:19] <krytarik> Well, one time is fine..
[17:19] <ravage> honestly...
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[17:39] <Ermine> Hello, why does do-release-upgrade delete discord?
[17:40] <leftyfb> Ermine: the upgrade process only upgrades official ubuntu packages and does not like (removes?) packages installed from 3rd party resources due to potential conflicts or breakages
[17:40] <leftyfb> Ermine: it's always been like this
[17:42] <ThinkT510> Ermine: it would be up to discord to package it for any particular release
[17:42] <Lumpio-> I thought it just disables random stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and doesn't actually start removing packages
[17:43] <donofrio> anyone know the repo that has emacs 27.1?
[17:43] <krytarik> I think only if they actually conflict with the upgrade, yes.
[17:44] <ThinkT510> Ermine: given the 9 month support timeframe for non-LTS releases most 3rd party software (especially closed source) tend to only package for LTS releases (if at all)
[17:44] <ravage> discord is maybe a good application to use as a snap
[17:45] <ThinkT510> or flatpak
[17:46] <leftyfb> ThinkT510: flatpaks aren't supported here, as opposed to snap
[17:47] <krytarik> donofrio: For what Ubuntu release?  This would be my reference though: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/%2Bsource/emacs
[17:47] <ThinkT510> leftyfb: the snap support would be limited to just the snap repos that come with ubuntu right?
[17:47] <leftyfb> ThinkT510: there are no non-canonical snap repos
[17:48] <ThinkT510> leftyfb: but if you use 3rd party snap repos then the support here would be akin to ppas yes?
[17:48] <donofrio> krytarik, /action hanging head 18.04
[17:48] <leftyfb> ThinkT510: there are no 3rd party snap repos
[17:49] <leftyfb> donofrio: the emacs package for 28.04 is on version 47.0
[17:50] <krytarik> donofrio: Yeah, there are some listed for it under "Other versions" on that page.
[17:50] <leftyfb> donofrio: the snap version is on 27.2
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[18:27] <silatel> i have ubuntu 20.04, im trying to replace it with windows 10
[18:27] <silatel> created bootable usb with ventoy
[18:28] <silatel> but when i try to install when choosing partition it says it's not ntfs
[18:28] <silatel> what can i do?
[18:28] <mei> assuming you want to remove your old installation and data
[18:28] <skrull> you must delete that partition and create a new one
[18:28] <mei> remove that partition and use the free space?
[18:29] <silatel> mei: how do i do that?
[18:29] <leftyfb> silatel: your question belongs in #windows, not here
[18:29] <silatel> ah i'm sorry
[18:29] <silatel> will do that
[18:46] <scanno> I thought 21.10 provided Wayland support for NVidia? Or was that cancelled?
[18:46] <scanno> still on X11 after a release upgrade
[18:48] <leftyfb> scanno: an upgrade is likely not going to change your display server. You'll have to change it yourself or install from scratch. Though I can't confirm about it supporting nvidia or not
[18:51] <scanno> Find it a bit strange that apps that are installed from debs or through apt, have the light title bar and snaps have the old dark title bar...
[18:52] <scanno> Thunderbird -> white, Firefox -> dark
[18:53] <leftyfb> they are both available as snaps
[18:54] <scanno> Still why two different title bar colors
[19:03] <EdTedZed> Is Thunderbird also a snap-pkg by default or is it just Firefox?
[19:04] <scanno> Firefox, thunderbird is installed from impish main repo
[19:19] <oerheks> impressive.. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/impish-indri-release-notes/21951
[19:19] <oerheks> md5 checksum deprecation for Streams.
[19:29] <scanno> hmmm my aptX headset fails to connect:
[19:29] <scanno> bluetoothd[1206]: src/service.c:btd_service_connect() a2dp-sink profile connect failed for 00:16:94:26:39:52: Protocol not available
[19:30] <Ermine> Sddm fails to login. pam reports auth failure
[19:33] <sarnold> scanno: linux bluetooth is an ocean of tears. you might be able to find some way to get the headset to pair with a protocol that doesn't sound like garbage but it might also be easier to buy a wire
[19:33] <scanno> sarnold: worked fine on 20.04, 21.04
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[19:34] <sarnold> scanno: ah interesting :) then you've got a good bug report on your hands :D
[19:37] <scanno> sarnold: Sarcasm 🙂 But lucky for me I have a dongle from Sennheiser that bypasses the BT problem for now. Or this might be an upgrade problem ofc.
[19:39] <sarnold> scanno: no, I mean, please file a bug report. "this used to work and now it doesn't" is a very different thing from "this doesn't work"
[19:42] <oerheks> i see upgrade path with apt is out, 21.10
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[20:28] <scanno> <sarnold> "Menno: no, I mean, please file a..." <- Thx problem already solved. pulseaudio-module-bluetooth was not installed
[20:30] <sarnold> scanno: aha! woot :) I'm glad it was 'easy' :)
[20:30] <sarnold> scanno: thanks for reporting back
[20:47] <Guest58> Can i ask here some questions about installing popos? Or what channel?
[20:49] <coconut> Guest58, you can try https://chat.pop-os.org
[20:50] <genii> There might also be someone in #system76
[20:51] <coconut> Guest58, ^
[20:53] <coconut> oh... system76 channel did not move from freenode to libera
[20:53] <coconut> i guess
[21:24] <arooni> hi folks
[21:25] <arooni> trying to add a dummy video display so i can connect to it via my samsung s7+ tablet;  anyways with xrandr; i see "xrandr --addmode VIRTUAL1 2800x1752"  ==> xrandr: cannot find output "VIRTUAL1"
[22:04] <magnus-falco> how do i set it to password login rather than auto login?
[22:05] <yukiup> still can't remove default nautilus bookmarks
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[22:31] <oerheks> magnus-falco, type 'user' in dash, and disable autologin in systemsettings
[22:32] <magnus-falco> in bash?
[23:43] <webchat76> hi i am unable to read dvd by my ubuntu 20.04 but it can only read cd