| jbicha | rbasak: I haven't seen that. If you use gnome-shell extensions, see if you still have that issue with them disabled | 01:20 |
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| callmepk | good morning | 02:50 |
| duflu | Hi callmepk | 03:20 |
| callmepk | hi duflu | 03:24 |
| pieq | Hello! | 03:35 |
| callmepk | hi pieq | 05:03 |
| duflu | Also hi pieq | 05:15 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 05:33 |
| callmepk | hi oSoMoN | 05:56 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 06:01 |
| oSoMoN | hey callmepk, duflu | 06:10 |
| didrocks | hey callmepk, duflu, oSoMoN | 07:02 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 07:03 |
| callmepk | hi didrocks | 07:15 |
| GunnarHj | Hi all! | 08:01 |
| GunnarHj | Some desktop team input at bug #1946969 would be greatly appreciated. | 08:01 |
| GunnarHj | Background in short: | 08:01 |
| GunnarHj | * There is this "Xwayland on demand" idea in latest mutter (e.g. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1673) | 08:01 |
| GunnarHj | * It means that you may start your wayland session without Xwayland and ibus-x11 processes running | 08:01 |
| ubottu | Bug 1946969 in im-config (Ubuntu) "ibus-x11 does not start automatically" [High, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946969 | 08:01 |
| GunnarHj | * This has proved to be an issue for ibus-mozc users, since ibus-mozc needs ibus-x11 to work. | 08:01 |
| ubottu | Merge 1673 in GNOME/mutter "Xwayland on demand by default" [Merged] | 08:01 |
| GunnarHj | Question: Would it be justifiable to make sure that Xwayland and ibus-x11 are started for everyone at login into a wayland session in impish, e.g. by running the xrefresh command in an autostart script? | 08:01 |
| GunnarHj | Not so many "home" today, but Trevinho, duflu, oSoMoN, callmepk ^ | 08:02 |
| duflu | GunnarHj, I don't think any of us have an opinion on that. If you need to undo it then I don't mind | 08:03 |
| duflu | Might be best to take it up with upstream first though | 08:04 |
| GunnarHj | duflu: It seems to contradict upstream's idea, which is why I'm hesitating. Not sure what kind of answer I would get if asking upstream... ;) | 08:08 |
| duflu | GunnarHj, I have no opinion myself. We are free to patch stuff but it's a good idea to only patch stuff that upstream HAS rejected already | 08:12 |
| didrocks | duflu: thibautr has some issues like login screen displaying the whale screen (which is not a whale anymore btw). Could be https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/131b21d4843931d315a4548121d7d352cfd1e3a8 or https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/233cec69ba3579112ae60349cec6fed0d7d4d9f8 which are the top recent crashers for gdm3/gnome-shell. wdyt? | 08:17 |
| didrocks | (I doubt he will be able to go a tty and report the crash from there, so hoping that whoopsie reported it) | 08:17 |
| duflu | didrocks, look at https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/ID where ID is the content of file /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id on the machine | 08:19 |
| GunnarHj | duflu: Yeah, normally. But in this case they have invested quite some code to make something behave in a way which at least ibus-mozc users don't like. I see it as a "Forwarded: not needed" thing. | 08:20 |
| didrocks | duflu: right, but the id is install specific, correct? | 08:20 |
| duflu | didrocks, yes it is machine-specific. Please also ask for this run from a tty: apport-cli -f gnome-shell | 08:21 |
| didrocks | so I doubt he will be able to read this (we should have an easy way from the live for average user) | 08:21 |
| didrocks | duflu: yeah, this is where we can’t ask that to a regular user (or I would have already done it) | 08:21 |
| duflu | didrocks, try giving him instructions for booting with the 'nomodeset' kernel parameter. Then we should at least get a login and be able to report bugs | 08:23 |
| didrocks | yeah, let’s try this | 08:23 |
| GunnarHj | didrocks: Do you possibly have an opinion on the Xwayland question I asked above? | 08:23 |
| didrocks | GunnarHj: unfortunately not. It’s been a long time I haven’t followed GNOME/Wayland and all the changes related to it | 08:26 |
| GunnarHj | ack. | 08:26 |
| rbasak | jbicha: just "Desktop Icons NG (DNG)", "Ubuntu AppIndicators" and "Ubuntu Dock". These are all default on Ubuntu I assume? I've used others in the past but they're all disabled. | 09:24 |
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