[00:19] Does anyone know why python-requests is removed from ubuntu 20.04 ? [00:19] najatac_: almost all python 2 libraries were [00:19] right? [00:19] (or was that a later release?) [00:21] that's weird because all these dependent libraries are there like the docs package for it and authlibs for it [00:44] Hey all, I just installed Ubuntu 21.10 on both my home laptop and desktop. Has anybody else running Ubuntu 21.10 noticed that "Show Applications" (generally referred to as the START button) isn't clickable when their cursor is positioned on the bottom left-most pixel on their screen? [00:45] eww [00:46] I'm interested in installing Ubuntu Touch or something similar on my Samsung Galaxy Tab S. Any links or advice is appreciated [00:46] *are [00:47] Mimas: there's a big list of devices on https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ [00:48] sarnold, yeah, my device isn't there [00:48] there's a few samsung devices, I'm not sure if any are a match [00:48] aww :( [00:49] Mimas: Maybe ubports supports the Galaxy ? [00:50] !info touch | Mimas [00:50] Mimas: Package touch does not exist in impish [00:50] !touch | Mimas [00:50] Mimas: Information about the mobile port of the Ubuntu platform (formely Ubuntu Touch) for Phone and Tablet is available here: https://ubports.com/. Support and discussion in #ubports [00:54] I'm the shmuck who doesn't understand why I can't use a lot more of my large microSD [00:55] I'm great with PCs, but phones and tablets escape my understanding so far [00:56] as in how the OS is involved with the hardware [00:57] aye, phone/tablet companies seem to go out of their way to make that hard [00:59] This 6/7 year old tablet has only around 200 hours of use, so the battery is decent, but the OS sucks [01:12] alejandro1 [01:13] I'm considering my main OS... is there a "snipping tool" in Ubuntu? [01:16] what's a snipping tool? [01:17] it's a windows thing you can use as a screen capture image [01:18] to capture something on your screen. it has different modes, like fullscreen, rectangle, free-form (who does that?) [01:18] aha [01:18] if you're running a desktop environment there's a good chance the print screen key on your keyboard already does this [01:18] if not it probably isn't too hard to use [01:19] I run i3wm so I don't have anything already hooked up :) I use xwd because it's what I've always used but it kinda sucks if I'm honest.. [01:19] yes, i used prt scrn... what was that key? [01:20] i don't know what i3wm or xwd are [01:20] then forget I mentioned them :) [01:20] wm probably windows manager [01:21] i3wm https://i3wm.org/screenshots/ [01:24] hey, any idea what I need to install so windows soft raid drives get properly identified? [01:24] currently they show up as two separate drives [01:27] jadew: this wikipage probably hasn't been touched in a decade but it might have some hints https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [01:27] sarnold, thanks [01:27] jadew: but if you've got something like windows storage spaces or whateer it is they're calling their newer thing it probably won't help much.. [01:28] sarnold, no, I've had this for quite some time, it's a soft raid 1 === M4he is now known as mahe === keypushe- is now known as keypusher === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba === _^_Thaurwylth_^_ is now known as Thaurwylth [05:04] Hi, I'm planning to reinstall ubuntu on a uefi laptop with windows 7 and ubuntu 14.04 dual booting at the moment [05:05] The way I think I should do it, is to backup the data on the linux partition, delete that partition, and install ubuntu 20.04 choosing the option "Install ubuntu alongside windows 7", right? [05:11] mohnish: you know that Windows 7 isn't support anymore? [05:12] neither is Ubuntu 14.04 by the way, hence the reinstall i guess [05:21] Mekaneck: if windows 7 is not supported anymore, does that mean that the method won't work? [05:51] mohnish: just saying that windows 7 is vulnerable and should be deleted [05:52] if you need windows badly then at least upgrade to W 10 [06:03] Mekaneck: yeah, I will [06:03] Mekaneck: but will that method of upgrading ubuntu work? [06:03] that doesn't interfere with the windows partition? [06:09] whenever i do a release-upgrade i check if all my installed packages have a mirror behind it. i found out that the package libslirp0 in the impish version is considered a downgrade from the one in ubuntu hirsute [06:09] mohnish, you haven't said if desktop or server install; but I'd just perform an 'upgrade via re-install' (use existing partitions without format) if it's a desktop system; after cleaning out 3rd party sources; and any packages that will create issues for the upgrade... I'd not expect any data restoration to be required - but given it's a well-past EOL (for both) OSes you're asking about we can only offer opinions [06:10] my prior comment ^ assumed desktop install (ie. system dirs being wiped won't lose desktop configs) [06:10] its a desktop install, yes [06:12] I'd rather have a clean install though, I was just asking if it is possible to do it the way I suggested [06:13] I understand windoes 7 is EOL, but the person that the laptop belongs to does not want it to be updated [06:15] I almost always opt for 'something else' & tell the installer what I want... it's been a looong time since I've install alongside windows 7 (& never with ubiquity found in focal/20.04) [06:19] # [06:20] guiverc: oh, okay === majian is now known as Jack_Ma === erica9 is now known as erica === klebers_ is now known as klebers === m0nkey__ is now known as m0nkey_ === AKTheKnight56 is now known as AKTheKnight5 === BuildTheRobots_ is now known as BuildTheRobots === DArqueBish0p is now known as DArqueBishop === justHaunt1 is now known as justHaunt === KrimZon7 is now known as KrimZon === useful_idiot2 is now known as useful_idiot === osa1_ is now known as osa1 [06:47] * Jack_Ma === SmokenatorZ64 is now known as SmokenatorZ6 [07:56] 20.12.3 [07:56] kdenlive version [07:56] does it uses NVENC by default? [07:56] it surely provides options to render by GPU, does it really do? [08:15] Hello, when I enter the SD-card in my internal laptop card reader sometimes it is recognized immediately and sometimes "never". How could I check if anything is recognized by the system - maybe not showing me? Or do you have other solutions? [08:15] By the wayx [08:15] By the way, the SD card is readable by other devices perfectly. [08:16] Thanks! [08:20] Liblx: if you type "dmesg -w" in a terminal it should come up, or "udevadm monitor" [08:25] dmesg -w is running... [08:25] EriC^^: is it right that it has many lines and needs time? [08:26] Liblx: when you plug in the sdcard it should show something related to it, i think udevadm would be more clear to use though [08:27] EriC^^: Nothing. For both. [08:28] But the same card worked the last time and it's really that sometimes it works perfect and sometimes nothing... [08:29] Liblx: anything in 'lsblk' ? [08:30] It shows sr0 with 1024MB (the card has 32GB). [08:31] And my other harddisks. [08:32] sr0 seems to be the CD-ROM-drive... [08:32] So, nothing. [08:34] hmm no idea [08:34] is the sd-card reder directly integrated into the computer, or are you attaching it through usb? [08:34] does "lsusb" list it? [08:34] tomreyn: it's a slot inside [08:35] no [08:35] does "lspci -nnv" list it? [08:35] yes [08:36] how? [08:36] use a pastebin, please [08:36] of course [08:38] https://paste.noname-ev.de/9697 [08:40] Liblx: and your kernel version is ? cat /proc/version_signature [08:41] Ubuntu 4.15.0-147.151-generic 4.15.18 [08:42] that's a bit old, 4.15.0-159.167 would be current [08:42] i assume this is ubuntu 18.04 LTS? [08:42] yes, updates needed. but I am working with this system a long time and with the same sd card it sometimes work and sometimes not. [08:43] yes [08:43] Liblx: this sounds like a known issue for some MMC card readers; they fail to assert the 'card present' signal [08:43] Liblx: I dealt with that one relatively recently but struggling to recall for exactly what at present! [08:43] TJ-: even though it's sometimes detected? [08:43] Liblx: indeed [08:43] oh [08:44] So, an external one or a new one integrated would solve it? [08:44] I deal with so many bugs across so many packages I cannot recall right now the context of the issue I'm thinking of [08:44] np [08:45] I'm pretty sure what I'm thinking about required a kernel patch. [08:45] thanks although it is not perfect. :) [08:45] ah, with an update it could work? [08:47] maybe try the HWE kernel then [08:47] you should consider an update to 20.04 in general [08:47] tomreyn: thanks [08:47] ravage: for security reasons, right? [08:48] and for newer packages in general [08:48] 18.04 is still supported. but 22.04 is already on the horizon :) [08:48] :) [08:48] always better not to fall behind too long [08:49] I'll do my best. I need the laptop every day for work. So I am a bit cautious that I'd need more than a weekend to fix changes/problems after he update. [08:52] thanks to all of you! [08:56] still struggling to find the original issue; all I can recall is a single-line patch was added and it was about an MMC controller and 'card detect' signal [08:58] Hello. I have an error in weechat:"SASL authentication failed" I did everything by this manual - https://libera.chat/guides/weechat [08:58] What might be wrong? [08:59] Irssi client works [08:59] but not weechat [09:03] IRCNoob2000: try #weechat ? [09:10] !hwe | Liblx: this is somethnig you can try without upgrading [09:10] Liblx: this is somethnig you can try without upgrading: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [09:11] more details, if you want them https://gist.github.com/tomreyn/8d7675840d7bc7389b32e4d8887ca449 === mjw_ is now known as mjw99 [09:12] Hi [09:13] I can't start the avahi-daemon [09:14] CoolerX: hi. more details, please. command and output from starting it (on a pastebin), and info on your ubuntu version and kernel version [09:15] lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/{version*,cmdline} for the latter [09:18] is it bad to run dbus in a chroot env? [09:18] avahi-daemon talks to dbus [09:23] tomreyn, https://termbin.com/r0iv [09:24] I did a sudo strace avahi-daemon 2> logs [09:24] there's a few lines with permission denied [09:25] https://bpa.st/EDWA [09:25] those are the relevant lines [09:27] thanks tomreyn!! [09:27] maybe it doesn't allow binding to UDP sockets? === AKTheKnight5 is now known as AKTheKnight [09:51] Anyone know why Ubuntu left the nvidia wayland support disabled such that users need to resort to manually configuring it according to instructions such as https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2021/debian-ubuntu-linux-mint-nvidia-guide/2/? [09:51] Most annoying [09:53] They could have at least gone the https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2021/debian-ubuntu-linux-mint-nvidia-guide/2/ route of creating a /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf [09:55] With 'echo "options nvidia_drm modeset=1" >> /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf' === _miruoy is now known as miruoy [10:05] Hello. We're having a baffling issue here. We've installed Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on a HP Probook G650G8 and the Ethernet adapter doesn't work well (very slow connection, about some Kb or so) until we plug a USB 3 storage key. Then it works as expected. any clue on it? [10:06] we haven't bee able to find any meanignful info on it, maybe we are looking with not appropiate search terms... any hint on this would be (of course) greatly appreciated. [10:06] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1230525/ubuntu-20-04-network-performance-extremely-slow [10:06] sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf [10:06] Then changed the value from 3 to 2, saved changes and rebooted. [10:06] the powersaving feature can cause havoc with network speeds on wifi [10:11] The problem is not about wifi but with the cable ethernet adapter. However, I'll take a look on this === JanC_ is now known as JanC [10:13] antaresgades: I had a sound card in the past that would clog up the bus shuffling 0s backwards and forwards for no good reason. See if the storage key causes issues in another machine, or if other USB devices on the same port cause an issue. [10:24] greetings, where can I get checksums for kubuntu 21.10? [10:30] usually within the ftp folder [10:31] there's a SHA256SUMS file next to the .iso images, and a detached .gpg signature to verify the SHA256SUMS [10:36] hello [10:41] Is the gnome-session package (vanilla GNOME) broken in 21.10? For example the fonts are wrong (no Cantarell) and the folder icons in Nautilus are broken === MrC is now known as MrSpooky [10:44] antaresgades: i'd look for a bios upgrade [10:45] seanh: did you try that on xorg or wayland? [10:45] lotuspsychje: wayland [10:46] Thank you for yor answers, I'll try to test them all and see [10:46] seanh: perhaps try compare with the xorg too [10:46] lotuspsychje: I'll give it a try now [10:47] que pasa gente [10:47] lotuspsychje: Same problem with the "GNOME on Xorg" session. The gnome-session package hasn't installed vanilla GNOME properly, fonts and icons are missing [10:48] !es | latino [10:48] latino: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [10:48] !info gnome-session [10:48] gnome-session (40.1.1-1ubuntu1, impish): GNOME Session Manager - GNOME 3 session. In component universe, is optional. Built by gnome-session. Size 15 kB / 134 kB [10:49] antaresgades: https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06954418#AbT5 states that the HP Probook G650 G8 *series* include an Intel 10/100/1000 GbE NIC. most of the time, intel nic's work fine out of the box. but HP often has overly complex firmware, which can cause incompatibilities. you can get details on the model and bios using journalctl -b | grep DMI: and on the ethernet chipset using lspci -knn | grep -EA3 'Ethernet controller'. use a [10:49] pastebin if you'll share multiple lines of output. [10:49] seanh: this is what apt wants to 'pull' on installing; adwaita-icon-theme-full fonts-cantarell gnome-session (on 20.04) [10:49] Hmm, there's a package called vanilla-gnome-desktop, is that what I need? [10:50] lotuspsychje: on 21.10 gnome-session no longer pulls fonts-cantarell for example [10:50] weird [10:51] antaresgades: latest bios https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-probook-650-g8-notebook-pc/37934587/swItemId/ob-277883-1 [10:53] lotuspsychje: You can see it here. On Focal gnome-session depended on Cantarell and various other packages: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/gnome-session On Impish it no longer does: https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/gnome-session [10:53] thats gnome classic you want right seanh ? [10:54] No gnome classic is something else. I want normal Gnome just without Ubuntu's modifications (like Ubuntu's font and dock etc) [10:54] ah right [10:57] seanh: vanilla gnome seems to pull a lot more packages, so that might be what you need perhaps [10:57] I've got a feeling that the vanilla-gnome-desktop package might be the answer. Every result on Google says to just install gnome-session to get vanilla Gnome on Ubuntu (and indeed this used to work before 21.10) [11:03] seanh: you seem to be right, it used to be gnome-session https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-gnome-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts-focal-fossa [11:05] lotuspsychje: It's a shame there doesn't appear to be any official docs for the Right Way to do this [11:05] usualy the linuxconfig tuts are pretty clean and trusty [11:05] hello, i am not good ubuntu. I need snap store, but does not work. I see this https://ibb.co/hfy0vMW [11:07] how can i fix it ? worked yesterday === diskin_ is now known as diskin [11:08] i have ubuntu 20.04. This global problem ? I can fix it, reinstal ubuntu, or install windows [11:08] but i want to fix it [11:09] Looks like installing the vanilla-gnome-desktop package is broken: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for gdm3-theme.gresource [11:11] Yeah I don't think vanilla-gnome-desktop is what you want to install. It installs a second copy of Firefox as well! (The non-snap version, I'm guessing) [11:12] what is the text only way to upgrade from one verison to another (18.04 to 20.04?) [11:12] It does get the fonts and icons right though, and the desktop wallpaper [11:15] I dunno, maybe vanilla-gnome-desktop is the right thing to do 🤷 It installs a bunch of apps too, like Evolution [11:15] hi folks [11:15] i have a problem with virtualbox [11:16] after latest dist upgrade of 20.04, it seems that /sbin/vboxconfig fails with compile error against linux 5.11 [11:16] is this anything known? [11:18] hey dudes [11:18] so wait I thought 18.04 was LTS so I do-release-upgrade and it says there is no development version of LTS and that I can upgrade to a non-LTS version but I'm lost so 20.04 is not LTS? [11:19] does ubuntu 21.04 comes with Kdenlive that has NVENC enabled by default or not? [11:19] I used shotcut for some time, but kdenlive comes with better workflow [11:21] why does `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` say 21.10 is still in development? [11:21] how do I go from 18.04 LTS to 21.04? [11:22] donofrio: `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade` should work [11:22] if not, maybe try changing your sources.list entries to focal manually? [11:23] and then do the first two commands [11:23] it's recommended to disable any third party repos though [11:23] can re-enable them after a successful upgrade [11:23] I have no third party repos [11:23] oh ok, just making sure [11:24] Kindly help me install TEP 220 Thermal Printer and Bar Code Reader on Ubuntu 20.04 please [11:25] update: I did `sudo do-release-upgrade` without -d and this time it offered 21.10 without saying it's in development [11:25] Kindly assist on this: Kindly help me install TEP 220 Thermal Printer and Bar Code Reader on Ubuntu 20.04 please [11:26] stop spamming your question, if someone knows the answer they'll tell you [11:26] ok thank wating [11:27] nyuszika7h, I only get this - https://dpaste.org/pV8u [11:30] hmm, that's strange, I don't have an LTS system to test it on right now [11:33] well if anyone else knows - I lurk always, need 21.04 for emacs/doom use [11:41] hi folks, i am running `&& apt-get install -y ssh git zip locales && locale-gen de_DE.UTF-8 && update-locale` but when i do locale -a i dont see the de_DE locale. What am I missing? [11:47] Hi I upgraded my system to 21.10 and i dont have WIFI as promised in a beta live iso. How can i file a bug [11:48] i have bluetooth which is on the same chip [11:48] gebbione: according to the man page, locale-gen doesn't take command line arguments, it builds all the locales defined in /etc/locale.gen and /var/lib/locales/supported.d/* [11:48] gebbione: locale-gen does not accept any arguments. you have to define the locales to be built via "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" [11:49] installing locales-all slots them all in [11:49] lets see if my tests work now [11:52] I have vague memories of running locale-gen with the locale name on the command line a bunch of Ubuntu versions ago, and it used to work then [11:52] Yep, same here^ [11:54] hmm, /usr/sbin/locale-gen is a shell script that does handle command-line arguments, in interesting ways [11:54] e.g. `locale-gen lt` would find /var/lib/locales/supported.d/lt and take the `lt_LT.UTF-8 UTF-8` row from it [11:54] but on my system there's no /var/lib/locales/supported.d/en [11:55] sorry, /de; there is a /en [11:55] and I see locale-gen also tries to look things up in /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED [12:04] here a scan of my wifi failing https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=8c2ed0d838 [12:07] tomreyn, I figured out the issue [12:08] I compiled and ran https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/udp-server-client-implementation-c/ [12:08] I can run that as myself (sudo group) [12:08] but if I try to run as the user avahi (using runuser) then I get permission denied [12:08] socket creation failed: permission denied [12:10] how does this do-release-upgrade process work? from 18.04 to 18.10 to 19.04 to 19.10 to 20.04 to 20.10 to 21.04? [12:10] From 18.04 to 21.04 [12:11] swensson, I tried and I only get https://dpaste.org/pV8u ;( [12:13] Ahh LTS, you have to inactivate that before jumping to 21.04, I think there isn't any 21.04 LTS yet. Please do correct me if I'm wrong. [12:14] donofrio, your options are 18.04 -> 20.04 -> 20.10 -> 21.04, or the way you mentioned first ... directly from 18.04 -> 21.04 is not possible and would likely break .... [12:15] I did jump from 18.04 to 21.04, everything seems to work. I also jumped from 20.04 to 21.04 w/o issues. [12:15] ogra, ah ok.... [12:16] wait there is no 21.04 (normally they go by year.month so 2021 March already went by?) [12:16] I think i found the module but its failing [12:16] root@Blue-Mage:~# modprobe mt76 [12:16] modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'mt76': Invalid argument [12:17] [ 922.251840] mt76: disagrees about version of symbol ieee80211_sta_register_airtime [12:17] there are transitions, configuration handling and whatnot between upgrades that are only tested and managed on a release-to-release basis (and on an LTS-to-LTS basis) ... if oyu skip a step nobody can guarantee anything and you likely are left wth old or broken configs [12:17] ogra, I'm not trying to skip anything fwiw [12:20] Now when I try to upgrade I'm getting aborted? - https://dpaste.org/vOB9 [12:22] donofrio, looks like a network issue to me (already with the apt update call) [12:24] hello [12:29] i need help === webchat10 is now known as fuckybitch [12:34] what do I do to populate the --data-dir for do-release-upgrade? [12:35] donofrio: fix your network first [12:36] maybe consider using a country mirror instead of the main archive.ubuntu.com? [12:36] but security.ubuntu.com should be accessible in any case, so figure out why it's not [12:37] mgedmin, so --data-dir is not for offline/local repo? [12:38] because network is working like it should be === Abrax- is now known as Abrax [12:42] if the network is working, why is apt reporting "Error connecting: Could not connect: Connection refused" [12:42] do you have a proxy configured or something? [12:49] mgedmin, nope no proxy [12:55] donofrio: try connecting manually see what headers are returned. " wget -S -O /dev/null http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/ [12:56] donofrio, the man page does not mention that feature; are you sure it's still a thing ? [12:58] ioria, do-release-upgrade --help shows it [12:58] yeah, i saw it [13:00] TJ-, that worked https:dpaste.org/nJCt [13:03] donofrio: so, maybe a local apt cache is set? [13:07] TJ-, hu? [13:08] donofrio: something in the apt config may have set a cache, which is not available, which would explain the connection refused message [13:08] Hi folks [13:08] donofrio: possibly you'll find it in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ [13:10] donofrio: I'd have said maybe squid-deb-proxy-client but that uses mDNS and if it doesn't get a response falls back to direct (unless there is a squid-deb-proxy advertising on the network but the service/port is dead/blocked [13:18] good morning === diskin_ is now known as diskin [13:47] Hi [13:48] I am not able to print a test page on my printer [13:48] I am using hp-testpage -i [13:50] how can i prevent a particular log file from growing too large? [13:50] Guest2068: which log file? [13:51] daemon.log [13:51] Guest2068: what version of ubuntu? [13:52] hi === genii-core is now known as genii [13:52] i have a question regarding upgrade to 21.10. it says it will remove firefix and cinnamon-desktop-environment why? in the new repos they are named different packages? [13:53] or non-existent and simple cuts the dfifferent? [13:53] Guest2068: I'm pretty sure daemon.log isn't a thing any longer. Not in any supported version of ubuntu anyway [13:54] leftyfb: hmm not sure, it's a server i inherited from a previous developer [13:54] oh ok [13:54] one sec [13:54] Hello,... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/79af560f14c7a9b18cc56d5caaf0f8be446910e7) [13:54] Guest2068: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999 [13:54] leaftype: ah its apparently debian 4.9, thought it was an ubuntu server [13:54] jackneill: you should be able to reinstall those after the upgrade. You shouldn't lose any configurations [13:55] Guest2068: regardless, a quick answer might be logrotate [13:56] leftyfb: can i just create a cron job that delets this file every week? [13:56] Guest2068: look into logrotate. Other than that, go to #debian for support [13:57] tyler-183[m]: download the source for the dnsmasq package and use the info from that source to customize the source you have. This is an unsupported thing to do though [13:58] tyler-183[m]: there is a packaged snap for dnsmasq that is versiob 2.80. Not sure if that does what you need without messing with source code [13:59] leftyfb: I was able to build the dnsmasq with regex support. But I would like the extra stuff that comes when you install it with apt (systemd setup, start/stop scripts, etc.) how do I reproduce that with the custom dnsmasq? [13:59] tyler-183[m]: I already answered that [14:00] ok I'll check the source then [14:24] hello [14:25] Is there any way to change the settings for the dock on the left, I want the windows in alphabetical order - it is currently in order of most recently accessed [14:49] Is there a way in Ubuntu to set some default environment variables for a given user? [14:50] hi, i installed a deb package with dpkg -i [14:50] diophantoz: don't [14:50] markwdev: yes [14:50] markwdev: put 'export VAR=value' in ~/.profile [14:50] i can find it with dpkg --list [14:51] but i can't run it by its name [14:51] diophantoz: what package? [14:51] jd-gui [14:51] diophantoz: you'll have to contact the developer of the package for support [14:52] well at this point i just want to uninstall it [14:52] is that possible? [14:52] diophantoz: sudo apt remove --purge jd-gui [14:53] mgedmin, this is an account used to run a service. Setting the environment variable file in the service unit doesn't seem to work, making me think the service is just starting fresh processes for all the work it does, and losing the variables. [14:54] diophantoz: note that a given package doesn't necessarily provide a command , and that the .deb file it is packaged into doesn't have to be called .deb [14:55] markwdev: you can specify environment vars in the systemd unit [14:56] otherwise right, services don't load env vars from ~/.profile [14:56] I suspect system services also ignore /etc/environment as well [14:57] (unless the individual service uses EnvironmentFile=/etc/environment explicitly) [15:00] how can I check the VRAM temperature using the CLi? [15:01] leftyfb, was your idea different than setting them in .profile? [15:01] bancroft, generally what I do is install xsensors [15:01] coz_: is that on aptitude or snap? [15:02] bancroft, should be apt but not sure how well it works on gnome [15:02] bancroft, I always use MATE [15:03] coz_: I only see coretemp and acpitz, is that normal? [15:03] bancroft: xsebsors would be a graphical frontend to lm-sensors. you can also just install that, and run sensors-detect [15:03] markwdev: as mentioned, you set envars as part of the service unit [15:03] ^^^^ bancroft [15:04] bancroft, yes I skipped what tomreyn mentioned [15:04] leftyfb, we are doing that, but it's not working for some reason. The only thing i can figure is that Nagios is spawning fresh processes for the checks that have their own environment. [15:05] bancroft: lm-sensors is a debian package, available from via apt. [15:06] i don't know whether you can actually check DIMM temperature with it, though. you'll see. [15:07] tomreyn: I installed it with apt, can I use cli to watch? I don't need a GUI [15:07] you run "sensors" [15:08] "watch sensors" to run it repeatedly [15:08] tomreyn: Does it do a post-install of sensors-detect automatically? [15:09] genii: i don't think so, but i could be wrong. [15:09] I'm pretty sure it doesn't [15:09] oh-kay, so its installed, I've restarted kmod like it asked, and when I try to run sensors I still get the same as before ? [15:10] a decade or two ago there were some thinkpad models where running sensors-detect could brick the hardware, so there are scary warnings and confirmations [15:10] bancroft: You should probably run sudo sensors-detect and then try again after [15:11] sudo sensors-detect --auto is usually fine [15:12] bancroft: what's the data you're trying to get? [15:14] tomreyn: vram temp, I can see core temp in nvidia-smi now at least but what about my firewire card (don't ask, audio interface, can't be helped) [15:15] bancroft: are you saying you are trying to get temperature readings for a firewire PCI card? [15:18] tomreyn: all my PCIe cards really [15:18] cant see anything for the FW card, and there's no VRAM temp in nvidia-smi so i'm stumpped [15:18] hi. Using virt-manager/qemu+kvm, when I choose 1920x1080 as screen size in ubuntu guest, and then mximize full screen on my 1920x1080 screen, I notice that the VM screen is blurred. I had to deactivate scaling because in fact, the VM screen is bigger than 1080 by 10ish pixels in fact [15:18] with ubuntu 21.10 as guest [15:19] bancroft: do these actually have such sensors on their boards? [15:20] but even if so, you'd still need to ensure that there is documentation on how to query those, as well as someone implementing the code to do so. [15:20] and guess what ? this only happens with ubuntu 21.10. was fine with 21.04 or any other os in fact === Mathisen_ is now known as Mathisen [15:33] If firefox is installed as a non-snap it is not added to the menu [15:35] Nevermind I had to re-login [15:38] I love how do-release-upgrade helpfully computes download times assuming 1Mbit DSL or a 56k modem ("3 days 11 hours") [15:40] Is there a command to replace all snaps with .deb counterparts ? [15:41] no; the set of snaps doesn't map cleanly to the set of debs [15:41] there are other linux distros [15:41] tomreyn, really ?!?! [15:41] * ogra googles [15:41] 😛 [15:42] 👋 [15:42] anyone know if guids are preserved when restoring a partition or is that only when you restore from a disk ? [15:42] i'm restoring partitions with clonezilla and was curious if the guids are preserved…i know they are when cloning a disk [15:42] ogra: :) i meant to point out that it's a design choice. [15:43] yeah, i was just joking 🙂 [15:43] :) [15:44] zfigz: partition guids are stored in the partition table, file system uuids are stored on the file system [15:45] zfigz: please do not cross post [15:45] ah, okay cool. i think it's the uuids that i care about to retain crypttab / resume etc [15:46] those are filesystem uuids [15:46] zfigz: which version of ubuntu are you running on the OS you're cloning? [15:46] i usually choose -k for clonezilla to not create a partition table [15:47] 21.04 [15:47] it's actually pop!_os [15:47] but yah [15:47] !popos | zfigz [15:47] zfigz: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [15:47] i ran the beta and then tried to restore using timeshift and i totally borked stuff [15:47] zfigz: PopOS != Ubuntu. Please seek support from PopOS [15:48] for sure, but i think my question wasn't/isn't specific to pop [15:48] it was a general question really [15:48] this is not #general, though [15:48] zfigz: Please seek support from PopOS [15:48] no worries, no more questions :o) [15:48] zfigz: or continue in #linux [15:48] will do, thanks again [15:54] tomreyn: yes I believe they all do I mean my 3060ti should at least? [15:55] So [15:55] Grub hangs on me if I press a key on the boot menu. [15:56]