[02:24] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:43] <marcoagpinto> Heya
[08:12] <ducasse> good morning
[10:39] <Donald_> can Ubuntu upgrade from 20.04LTS to 21.10 directly?
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> no Donald_ 
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> you need to jump to every next release first
[10:40] <Donald_> I see...
[10:40] <Donald_> that is why it shows upgrade to 21.04 only...
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> Donald_: is that what you want, to switch from lts to non lts?
[10:42] <Donald_> I have changed the config file. I am on 20.04LTS now, I want to upgrade it to 21.10 directly.
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> Donald_: the 'config' file?
[10:45] <Donald_> this file
[10:45] <Donald_> "/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"
[10:45] <Donald_> change the Prompt from lts to normal.
[10:46] <Donald_> Then, run the command "do-release-upgrade"
[10:48] <ducasse> yeah, you need to do it in steps or clean install
[10:52] <PaulW2U> The upgrade process has always been confusing (to me) and now that 20.10 is EOL even more so. The Release notes for 21.10 only mention upgrading from 21.04 so I suggest waiting for 22.04 (LTS to LTS) or a clean install of 21.10.
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> yeah i would go for PaulW2U idea too
[11:43] <guiverc> Donald_, There is the capacity to upgrade 20.04 to 21.04 (the next supported release; it's skipping the intended 20.10, but it's a QA-testcase & is automatically/CI tested even if not a mandatory testcase) - but not 20.04 to 21.10 currently, only 21.04 or next supported release  (when 21.04 is EOL, the upgrade will go from 20.04 to 21.10 directly - but it's not as tested as via all cycles)
[11:44] <Donald_> Ok, understood. Maybe it is better to have a clean install.
[11:45] <guiverc> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/424/builds/238347/testcases
[11:47] <guiverc> I don't know if you're asking about desktop or server install; but I like an *upgrade via re-install* (or 'install using existing partition' in lubuntu's testcase) where it's not a clean install.. i qa-test & jumped from 21.04, 21.10, 20.04.3, 21.10, 18.04.6, 21.10 (if I recall correctly last few months) on an install without loosing my installed apps, music etc..   (it was still a test machine though!)
[11:55]  * guiverc just noticed that qa-test said  LTS(bionic)->impish  (it should have said focal->impish), that may not build 'confidence'
[21:37] <cbreak> I like kde plasma a lot more than the ubuntu gnome default desktop.
[21:42] <cbreak> virtual desktops work nicer, the title bar works nicer, no dock that I don't need, and I can make it look nicer
[21:44] <daftykins> mm, a dock seems like a waste of pixels to me
[21:47] <cbreak> yes, the ubuntu default UI has it on the left, the plasma UI has one on the bottom, but I can move it to the top and remove all the pieces I don't want