[01:58] <valorie> mparillo: sorry, was in a meeting
[01:58] <valorie> you referred to the download graphic
[01:58] <valorie> I didn't check it, sorry
 fw 5.87 running fine here.  Seems to have fixed the GTK windows causing strange refresh (flashing) issues on NVidaia cards after resume from sleep.
[04:14] <valorie> good to know
[04:14] <valorie> I've not upgraded this laptop yet
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:06] <BluesKaj> is this accurate?...development will kick off with the usual toolchain upload on October 21st. https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-22-04-lts-slated-for-release-on-april-21st-2022
[15:13] <mamarley> The repository already exists and I'm building PPA packages for Jammy right now!
[15:20] <BluesKaj> mamarley, cool :-)
[15:34] <BluesKaj> sed'd my sources.list and hosts/hostname to jammy, 350 upgrades to jammy were sucessful :-)
[15:39] <mamarley> Dang, you beat me!
[15:40] <BluesKaj> hehe 
[15:42] <BluesKaj> well, i took a chance I guess.
[15:43] <BluesKaj> my setup is pretty generic, no oddball drivers etc needed 
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Intel i5 cpu, 16GB Ram, onboard graphics etc
[19:37] <valorie> it's generally super-safe at this point, since jammy=impish
[19:52] <clivejo> jammy = safe?
[20:03] <santa_> it seems it's safe, but afaics is no longer "the same than impish"
[20:03] <santa_> i.e. I have seen a big bunch of updates now
[20:58] <clivejo> anyone using Plasma on wayland?
 I keep trying Plasma on Wayland on my hybrid laptop.  I keep encountering minor issues that cause me to switch back to X.  Issue include apps not responding to clicks from system tray, hi-dpi browsers still blurry when scaled (running custom flags to run in wayland mode has been hit and miss in the past), wine requires a special patched version to run, and middle click mouse paste works intermittenlty.
[21:07] <clivejo> what version of Plasma?
 5.23
[21:08] <clivejo> @DarinMiller nice to see you BTW!
 likewise!
[21:09] <clivejo> I'm having issues getting into Plasma, sddm isn't playing ball!
[21:10] <clivejo> stupid NVidia
 trying wayland now.... and wine-staging is working without any additional patching....!
 middle click mouse paste still fails between gtk (browser)  and terminal...
 I am waiting for the 490 drivers to land in the graphics ppa.  NVidia should be seamless when they land... I have yet see anyone confirm though....
[21:16] <clivejo> have to launch it via tty with  dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland
 Wayland is very close though.  And I love how smooth it is.
[21:17] <clivejo> been trying a git build of sddm to use wayland
 On Solas?  Working fine on Kubuntu 21.10.  However, it switches my gpu from NVidia to intel as I am not modesetting on boot.
[21:18] <clivejo> Ubuntu sddm have wayland support?
 Yes. I installed the wayland packages and wayland is one of the options in the SDDM menu.
[21:20] <clivejo> I mean sddm launches using wayland instead of X
[21:21] <clivejo> DisplayServer=wayland
 Oh!
 How does one know which DS SDDM is using?
[21:23] <clivejo> unless you using a git build, probably x
 Makes sense.
[21:24] <clivejo> neon must be working on it, I see sitter working on bits
 That would have been a good question for Nate in today's reddit AMA session earlier today...
 https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/qa1hne/kde_25th_anniversary_ask_aleix_pol_lydia/
[21:27] <clivejo> I'd like to experience an entirely wayland experience
[21:27] <clivejo> x is so 20th century :P
 Same here!
[21:29] <clivejo> certainly won't be buying NVidia again, that's for sure!
 I am happy to see AMD CPU and GPU progress over  last few years.
 On a similar note, this RH dev. show what is now possible with modern laptops and eGPU's... I had no idea this was working under linux: https://twitter.com/GloriousEggroll/status/1449270751425699843
[21:33] <clivejo> yeah, genuine effort to work with and support Linux