[00:58] <webchat95> I joined earlier but my internet didn't help. Now I'm able to ask: is editing /etc/apt/sources.list and replacing focal with jammy the "proper" way to get the daily jammy?
[01:04] <tomreyn> installing from an iso image would be, i guess
[01:27] <webchat95> I want to upgrade the existing install, so waiting for a ISO wouldn't work. I'm doing the upgrade now
[01:28] <webchat95> 2 packages will be kept on its current versions, 395 new packages, 3500 packages to update, 37 packages to remove, 5444 MB to download, 2277 MB extra space used
[01:29] <webchat95> This install survived the same process from Bionic to Focal, so I'm hopeful it will at least boot
[01:36] <webchat95> It's a bit unfortunate how apt can download only one package per repository at once, the so many 20 kB packages slow down the entire process. Of course, a huge update like this is a relatively uncommon event
[01:38] <Bashing-om> webchat95: LTS to LTS is supported. from focal to jammy however, there are 20.10 and 21.04 and 21.10  in between to upgrade too :( 
[01:38] <tomreyn> this sounds like you're upgrading a system you want to work reliably to an early development state of the next ubuntu release. unless you have much experience, that can be a bad choice
[01:38] <tomreyn> webchat95: ^
[01:47] <webchat95> tomreyn : I'm trusting it won't be much worse than the bionic to focal experience. I'm upgrading a relevant system because back then it allowed me to find bugs I wouldn't be able to find testing on clean install
[01:48] <webchat95> This time I have a real full disk backup. It's a truly a bad idea to do it without backups 
[01:49] <tomreyn> webchat95: oh so if your goal is to contribute to testing (and report bugs, and maybe do some debugging), then that's a good way to contribute for sure.
[01:49] <Bashing-om> webchat95: But ! bionic to focal is LTS-LTS - running thrrough the "testing" releases is a bit different in that you are required for compatibility to upgrade to each in the path :(
[01:50] <webchat95> I did the bionic-focal like in october/2019, so around the same moment (~6 months before)
[01:51] <tomreyn> so also without an existing migration path (other than dist-ugrade). that may explain a bumpy ride.
[01:54] <Bashing-om> !upgrade | webchat95 Hope here to prevent some heartaches
[01:54] <ubottu> webchat95 Hope here to prevent some heartaches: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[02:18] <webchat95> Update: the download finished, it's installing now 🤞️
[03:20] <alkisg> webchat95: tell us of your results; I'm tempted to do the same next week :)
[03:34] <webchat95> alkisg libnma-common and network-manager-gnome packages try to write the same file, breaking the update. Many -dev packages have conflicts. The second attempt of finishing the install is running, roughly 1300 packages were unpacked, so far
[03:35] <webchat95> Other than some icons missing, it seems to be OK, but I'll wait and see to confirm
[04:04] <webchat95> One thing I noticed is that the dialog to replace a configuration file can be different: sometimes it opens a type of window, sometimes it's another type of window, sometimes it's in a terminal. It's always the same keep/replace/show diff options, but there is some inconsistency regarding the interface used
[04:24] <webchat95> The installation process finished. Something triggered a postfix install 🤦‍♂️️ and 4 packages failed:  openjdk-8-jre-headless:amd64  openjdk-8-jre:amd64  openjdk-8-jdk-headless:amd64  openjdk-8-jdk:amd64
[04:26] <Bashing-om> !info openjdk-8 impish
[04:26] <ubottu> Package openjdk-8 does not exist in impish
[04:27] <Bashing-om> !info openjdk-9 impish
[04:27] <ubottu> Package openjdk-9 does not exist in impish
[04:27] <webchat95> Makes sense, the version 11 is installed
[04:27] <Bashing-om> !info openjdk-8 focal
[04:27] <ubottu> Package openjdk-8 does not exist in focal
[04:28] <webchat95> I'll reboot now. If everything goes right, I should be back in less than 10 minutes (5400 RPM HDD speeds)
[04:34] <webchat95> It worked, I'm on Ubuntu Jammy Jellyfish (development branch) x86_64
[04:34] <webchat95> More precisely, Xubuntu. I really liked the default background
[04:37] <webchat95> The volume icon disappeared from the panel 🤔️
[04:42] <alkisg> Sounds good! I'll upgrade my MATE later on
[04:43] <webchat95> The installation failed twice, be sure you will be able to fix the breakages, especially if it's NetworkManager and you have no internet
[04:58] <alkisg> Will do, thank you!
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> a page has been created, iso has yet to come http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/429/builds
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[14:26] <ooshlablu> hello, I'm reaching out here because I've created a few docker containers for various games and have created scripts that can build packages for them for various versions of ubuntu
[14:26] <ooshlablu> https://github.com/ooshlablu/dolphin-docker
[14:26] <ooshlablu> https://github.com/ooshlablu/performous-docker
[14:27] <ooshlablu> I have also done so for stepmania and pcsx2, will be pushing those up shortly
[14:27] <ooshlablu> is there anyone I can talk to about getting these packages into the 22.04 cycle?
[14:27] <ooshlablu> on a side note, performous will be releasing version 1.2 shortly
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[18:39] <lotuspsychje> [telegram] <Leokolb> Budgie Jammy 22.04 iso's now available for testing
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> [telegram] <Leokolb> Lubuntu Jammy also available 😊
[18:52] <alkisg> Leokolb, links?
[19:03] <Fatal_Sushi> alkisg: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/429/builds
[19:03] <alkisg> Thanks!
[19:03] <Fatal_Sushi> yw