| xu-irc46w | good morning | 00:35 |
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| xu-irc46w | i installed xubunto on second hard drive pc wont boot , unless i press f11 during boot , ok so i uninstalled xbunto now i get some screen abouit grub ? | 00:36 |
| xu-irc46w | is there a book i can get some where ? all the help online is old | 00:37 |
| xu-irc46w | oh great my win setting have changed? | 00:39 |
| xu-irc46w | hello | 00:39 |
| xu-irc90w | hello | 00:39 |
| xu-irc90w | ok every time i hit enter page moves wtf | 00:39 |
| xu-irc90w | is there any one to help like linux software claims so far this is third linux ive tryed no good so far | 00:40 |
| xu-irc90w | i in stalled xbunto on other drive pc wont boot unless i press f11 during boot ? | 00:41 |
| xu-irc90w | that was no good so i uninstalled xbunto now i get aboot screen looks like dos , some stuff about grub | 00:42 |
| xu-irc90w | 5 42 am going to look for coffee | 00:43 |
| xu-irc90w | pm | 00:43 |
| xu-irc90w | hello any one there? | 00:45 |
| xu-irc90w | damn screen moves every time i hit enter wtf | 00:46 |
| xu-irc90w | i need help please | 00:46 |
| tomreyn | xu-irc90w: sometimes it takes some patience to find someone to asnwer your questions | 00:46 |
| xu-irc90w | damn first person whos said some thing | 00:46 |
| tomreyn | if you need a better irc client than the webchat, you could install hexchat | 00:46 |
| xu-irc90w | ive waited hours on other sites | 00:47 |
| xu-irc90w | now if stupid page would stop moving | 00:47 |
| xu-irc90w | i dont know what hex chat is ok | 00:47 |
| xu-irc90w | im disabled learning disabled autism , im trying to not use win 7 any more but people have made it very difficult | 00:48 |
| xu-irc90w | not easy to switch | 00:48 |
| xu-irc90w | like is there a book ? | 00:48 |
| tomreyn | this web chat you're using connects to an IRC network, which is a chat protocol. there are much better ways to use IRC, heyxchat is one of several softwares you could install that would enable that. | 00:48 |
| xu-irc90w | im not changeing win 7 with more software | 00:49 |
| xu-irc90w | i tryed to install xbunto and it wont boot unless i press f11 ever after uninstalling it | 00:49 |
| xu-irc90w | now when i boot i get ados like screen about grub ? | 00:50 |
| tomreyn | i'm not going to discuss windows or windows vs linux, but generally, you should definitely not run an end of support life operating system connected to the internet. | 00:50 |
| xu-irc90w | ha ha thats what i said | 00:50 |
| xu-irc90w | guess your no help | 00:50 |
| tomreyn | it's not clear what you mean by "uninstalling xubuntu", since there's no such thing | 00:50 |
| xu-irc90w | every freaking time :( | 00:51 |
| xu-irc90w | if i dont say the word exactly right its im a bad person , but when i dont understand yall its all ha | 00:51 |
| tomreyn | what do you mean? | 00:51 |
| tomreyn | i don't think you're a bad person, why would i? | 00:52 |
| xu-irc90w | it wont boot into win unless i press f11 during start like after i press power button i go to keyboard and press f11 get option for lots of stuff like grub uiefi grub stuff and win 7 | 00:53 |
| xu-irc90w | so that was no good so i format the other drive now it boots into some thing that looks like dos with some words about grub | 00:54 |
| tomreyn | you seem to have a computer which supports both uefi and legacy bios boot (also known as "CSM"). F11 seems to show the boot (override) menu on this computer. | 00:54 |
| tomreyn | some of the options presented there will be for uefi booting, others for bios booting | 00:54 |
| tomreyn | grb is the boot loader used by most linux distributions, including (x)ubuntu | 00:55 |
| tomreyn | *grub | 00:55 |
| xu-irc90w | ok how do i make it not do that and just boot back into win7 like before? | 00:55 |
| xu-irc90w | other linux stuff that did not work out i just format the drive and reboot nothing changed untill xubunto | 00:56 |
| tomreyn | if you changed bios configurations before you installed xubuntu, then undo them, and windows should be able to boot the same way as it did previously | 00:56 |
| xu-irc90w | i did not change bios setting | 00:56 |
| xu-irc90w | so xbunto broke my machine and no body will take resonability | 00:57 |
| xu-irc90w | maybe come up with a boot manager atleast if your going to push crap software that dont work right | 00:57 |
| xu-irc90w | :( | 00:58 |
| tomreyn | you know, i'm volunteering my spare time to answer some of your questions, you should not treat me that way. | 00:58 |
| xu-irc90w | great no help and now i got to spend hours looking up how to fix my computer | 00:58 |
| xu-irc90w | treating what way ? | 00:59 |
| tomreyn | if this is a repeating scene, maybe there is a constant in the whole thing you should look at more closely | 00:59 |
| xu-irc90w | im just typing | 00:59 |
| xu-irc90w | im disabled and linux is not easy at all every thing is a struggle | 00:59 |
| tomreyn | sorry to hear that | 00:59 |
| tomreyn | i think ubuntu may be easier in terms of scessibility features | 01:00 |
| xu-irc90w | great my pc is broke and no help :( | 01:00 |
| xu-irc90w | ubunto i couldnt get to work like i coundnt get linux other stuff to work , its so confussing not easy at all | 01:01 |
| tomreyn | i'm tired, maybe we can give this another try in some 10 or so hours | 01:01 |
| xu-irc90w | on a fixed income cant afford anew pc | 01:01 |
| xu-irc90w | when this one dies im done with the inter net | 01:01 |
| xu-irc90w | your were of no help | 01:02 |
| xu-irc90w | is there some who can help | 01:02 |
| tomreyn | okay, i'm retreating said offer, have a nice life. | 01:02 |
| xu-irc90w | i cant tell but i think you were rude to me | 01:03 |
| xu-irc90w | ok any one else of any help or is it just like every time i need help its crickets some comunity | 01:03 |
| xu-irc90w | goddamn liars all of the nurotypicals have made this world nuthing but hell fuck you all | 01:05 |
| xu-irc90w | thats for fucking my computer up and not oferany help | 01:05 |
| xu-irc90w | fuck all the nurotypicals | 01:05 |
| xu-irc44w | can i get real help not bull shit like last time linux fucked my pc | 01:31 |
| xu-irc44w | now i have to boot and press f11 | 01:32 |
| xu-irc44w | linux fucked my pc i need real help | 01:32 |
| W7 | i am trying to install pip on xubuntu 21.10 using apt because it is missing and i get this error https://pastebin.com/yMBhWGcq | 01:55 |
| tomreyn | if you prefer downloading from the web you should disable (comment out) the "cdrom" lines in /etc/apt/sources.list | 01:57 |
| W7 | thanks I fixed it | 02:00 |
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| xu-irc43w | hello | 15:58 |
| xu-irc43w | new to xubuntu | 15:59 |
| xu-irc43w | whenever i open fonts from applications menu, system becomes unresponsive | 15:59 |
| xu-irc43w | anyone here facing this same issue ? | 15:59 |
| xu-irc43w | is there a open bug on this ? | 16:15 |
| Mekaneck | xu-irc43w: try searching launchpad for bug reports | 16:21 |
| xu-irc43w | ok | 16:23 |
| xu-irc43w | i dont have launchpad accounts | 16:25 |
| xu-irc43w | is there any open urls to find bug reports | 16:25 |
| xu-irc43w | got it https://bugs.launchpad.net | 16:26 |
| GridCloud | something like this xu-irc43w ? https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=14659 | 16:28 |
| GridCloud | this person seemed to have a faulty drive tho | 16:28 |
| GridCloud | what application is the one failing xu-irc43w ? | 16:29 |
| xu-irc43w | fonts | 16:47 |
| xu-irc43w | one that in Accessories | 16:47 |
| GridCloud | xu-irc43w: have you tried loggin in as guest and see if the problem persists? | 16:52 |
| xu-irc43w | i haven't tried that | 16:52 |
| xu-irc43w | But tried with multiple times with same account, still issue persist | 16:53 |
| xu-irc43w | This is fresh os | 16:54 |
| sophie | i tried it just now on 20.04. it certainly works my computer for a moment. takes a while to come up and uses some ram | 17:00 |
| sophie | could it be it needs more resources than you have | 17:01 |
| sophie | in fact. i just minimised the fonts application to type here, and now it wont come back up. does seem to be an issue there | 17:01 |
| sophie | also could try turning off compositing in window manager tweaks. having that on has given me weird issues like this, and the system seems stabler with it off | 17:02 |
| xu-irc43w | Looks like a prebuilt issue | 17:06 |
| xu-irc43w | Turning off compositor, helps | 17:56 |
| xu-irc43w | After turning off compositor in settings, now able to open fonts app. | 17:56 |
| xu-irc43w | sophie you are right, turning off compositor fonts app opens without issues. | 17:57 |
| sophie | :) glad it's sorted! | 17:57 |
| xu-irc43w | GridCloud its issues with compositor | 17:57 |
| xu-irc43w | sophie yeah, thanks. | 17:58 |
| GridCloud | mmm | 17:58 |
| GridCloud | weird | 17:58 |
| GridCloud | what release are you using? | 17:59 |
| xu-irc43w | 5.11.0-38-generic #42~20.04.1-Ubuntu | 18:00 |
| GridCloud | question, do you have a .fonts folder in your ~/ directory? | 18:01 |
| xu-irc43w | let me have a quick look, wait pls | 18:02 |
| GridCloud | though if composition helped the problem is probably with rendering some font under composition | 18:02 |
| xu-irc43w | GridCloud nope .fonts folder is not there | 18:03 |
| GridCloud | interesting so it's not a custom font | 18:03 |
| xu-irc43w | ok | 18:03 |
| xu-irc43w | is this really needed ? command: fc-cache -f -v | 18:07 |
| GridCloud | i don't know what that does | 18:08 |
| xu-irc43w | rebuilding the font information | 18:08 |
| xu-irc43w | just got from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts | 18:09 |
| GridCloud | oh i think that just rebuilds the cache list of fonts | 18:10 |
| GridCloud | so it would display the font name on drop down lists when you install a new font | 18:10 |
| xu-irc43w | ok | 18:10 |
| GridCloud | try re-enabling composition and see if the crash happens on some of those drop down lists? like in libreoffice? | 18:12 |
| GridCloud | or when you choose a font on the xfce4-terminal? | 18:12 |
| GridCloud | you could also try to launch gnome-font-viewer from a terminal and see the crash report? | 18:14 |
| xu-irc43w | ok wait | 18:14 |
| xu-irc43w | crap, now it opening without issue, turned on compositor, now fonts app opens without issue | 18:16 |
| xu-irc43w | ?!!! confused | 18:16 |
| GridCloud | ah | 18:16 |
| GridCloud | yes good old magic | 18:17 |
| xu-irc43w | But !! what i have done ? what could be the issue here | 18:17 |
| GridCloud | no idea | 18:17 |
| GridCloud | maybe a font wasn't rendering properly, maybe re enabling it reseted soemthing that was being stubborn, maybe the gods smile at you | 18:18 |
| xu-irc43w | :) | 18:20 |
| tomreyn | xu-irc43w: the kernel version you posted seems to suggest you're on xubuntu 21.04 "hirsute" - note that 21.10 is released and you have 2 months left to upgrade. | 18:24 |
| tomreyn | *3 months | 18:24 |
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| xu-irc43w | tomreyn oh i installed this xubuntu today, the link provided in LTS is this, will check and upgrade to next LTS. | 18:28 |
| tomreyn | xu-irc43w: i was just guessing based on your kernel version - but the version i mentioned is not an LTS release | 18:29 |
| tomreyn | xu-irc43w: lsb_release -ds will print what you have | 18:29 |
| tomreyn | there is also /etc/os-release | 18:29 |
| tomreyn | i'm sorry, i missed the "20.04.1-Ubuntu" part. apparently you're using a 20.04 HWE kernel image | 18:30 |
| xu-irc43w | NAME="Ubuntu" | 18:32 |
| xu-irc43w | VERSION="20.04.3 LTS (Focal Fossa)" | 18:32 |
| xu-irc43w | ID=ubuntu | 18:32 |
| xu-irc43w | ID_LIKE=debian | 18:32 |
| xu-irc43w | PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS" | 18:32 |
| xu-irc43w | VERSION_ID="20.04" | 18:32 |
| tomreyn | !paste | xu-irc43w | 18:32 |
| ubottu | xu-irc43w: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 18:32 |
| tomreyn | xu-irc43w: so if you're on 20.04 LTS (and don't want to move away from an LTS release) then you shouldn't upgrade, yet | 18:33 |
| xu-irc43w | ok | 18:33 |
| tomreyn | because there is no newer LTS release, yet - that will be 22.04 in 04/2022 (thus the version name). | 18:33 |
| tomreyn | xu-irc43w: if you wanted to get a better idea of what went wrong with the fonts, you could read your system logs: journalctl -b | 18:41 |
| tomreyn | (but this is where almost everything logs to, so it's pretty crammy) | 18:42 |
| xu-irc43w | where this logs stays in ? | 18:43 |
| xu-irc43w | is this '/var/log/syslog' ? | 18:47 |
| xu-irc43w | tomreyn here is the log with regard to fonts app crashing will this help ? https://pastebin.com/2wV70rmX | 18:54 |
| tomreyn | xu-irc43w: these logs are stored in a database (which gets automatically shorted regularly to not take too much disk space) in /var/log/journal | 18:58 |
| tomreyn | xu-irc43w: it does tell us that the font viewer really crashed, i.e. the program got closed because it programmatically failed | 18:59 |
| xu-irc43w | tomreyn Thanks for the help | 19:26 |
| tomreyn | xu-irc43w: you're welcome | 19:27 |
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| W7 | is there a way to make autonomous updates on xubuntu update to xubuntu not ubuntu because my laptop is not able to run ubuntu and it is causing me trouble | 22:14 |
| krytarik | W7: Regardless of what exactly you mean by "update", it won't transform the install to Ubuntu to begin with. | 22:21 |
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