[00:35] good morning [00:36] i installed xubunto on second hard drive pc wont boot , unless i press f11 during boot , ok so i uninstalled xbunto now i get some screen abouit grub ? [00:37] is there a book i can get some where ? all the help online is old [00:39] oh great my win setting have changed? [00:39] hello [00:39] hello [00:39] ok every time i hit enter page moves wtf [00:40] is there any one to help like linux software claims so far this is third linux ive tryed no good so far [00:41] i in stalled xbunto on other drive pc wont boot unless i press f11 during boot ? [00:42] that was no good so i uninstalled xbunto now i get aboot screen looks like dos , some stuff about grub [00:43] 5 42 am going to look for coffee [00:43] pm [00:45] hello any one there? [00:46] damn screen moves every time i hit enter wtf [00:46] i need help please [00:46] xu-irc90w: sometimes it takes some patience to find someone to asnwer your questions [00:46] damn first person whos said some thing [00:46] if you need a better irc client than the webchat, you could install hexchat [00:47] ive waited hours on other sites [00:47] now if stupid page would stop moving [00:47] i dont know what hex chat is ok [00:48] im disabled learning disabled autism , im trying to not use win 7 any more but people have made it very difficult [00:48] not easy to switch [00:48] like is there a book ? [00:48] this web chat you're using connects to an IRC network, which is a chat protocol. there are much better ways to use IRC, heyxchat is one of several softwares you could install that would enable that. [00:49] im not changeing win 7 with more software [00:49] i tryed to install xbunto and it wont boot unless i press f11 ever after uninstalling it [00:50] now when i boot i get ados like screen about grub ? [00:50] i'm not going to discuss windows or windows vs linux, but generally, you should definitely not run an end of support life operating system connected to the internet. [00:50] ha ha thats what i said [00:50] guess your no help [00:50] it's not clear what you mean by "uninstalling xubuntu", since there's no such thing [00:51] every freaking time :( [00:51] if i dont say the word exactly right its im a bad person , but when i dont understand yall its all ha [00:51] what do you mean? [00:52] i don't think you're a bad person, why would i? [00:53] it wont boot into win unless i press f11 during start like after i press power button i go to keyboard and press f11 get option for lots of stuff like grub uiefi grub stuff and win 7 [00:54] so that was no good so i format the other drive now it boots into some thing that looks like dos with some words about grub [00:54] you seem to have a computer which supports both uefi and legacy bios boot (also known as "CSM"). F11 seems to show the boot (override) menu on this computer. [00:54] some of the options presented there will be for uefi booting, others for bios booting [00:55] grb is the boot loader used by most linux distributions, including (x)ubuntu [00:55] *grub [00:55] ok how do i make it not do that and just boot back into win7 like before? [00:56] other linux stuff that did not work out i just format the drive and reboot nothing changed untill xubunto [00:56] if you changed bios configurations before you installed xubuntu, then undo them, and windows should be able to boot the same way as it did previously [00:56] i did not change bios setting [00:57] so xbunto broke my machine and no body will take resonability [00:57] maybe come up with a boot manager atleast if your going to push crap software that dont work right [00:58] :( [00:58] you know, i'm volunteering my spare time to answer some of your questions, you should not treat me that way. [00:58] great no help and now i got to spend hours looking up how to fix my computer [00:59] treating what way ? [00:59] if this is a repeating scene, maybe there is a constant in the whole thing you should look at more closely [00:59] im just typing [00:59] im disabled and linux is not easy at all every thing is a struggle [00:59] sorry to hear that [01:00] i think ubuntu may be easier in terms of scessibility features [01:00] great my pc is broke and no help :( [01:01] ubunto i couldnt get to work like i coundnt get linux other stuff to work , its so confussing not easy at all [01:01] i'm tired, maybe we can give this another try in some 10 or so hours [01:01] on a fixed income cant afford anew pc [01:01] when this one dies im done with the inter net [01:02] your were of no help [01:02] is there some who can help [01:02] okay, i'm retreating said offer, have a nice life. [01:03] i cant tell but i think you were rude to me [01:03] ok any one else of any help or is it just like every time i need help its crickets some comunity [01:05] goddamn liars all of the nurotypicals have made this world nuthing but hell fuck you all [01:05] thats for fucking my computer up and not oferany help [01:05] fuck all the nurotypicals [01:31] can i get real help not bull shit like last time linux fucked my pc [01:32] now i have to boot and press f11 [01:32] linux fucked my pc i need real help [01:55] i am trying to install pip on xubuntu 21.10 using apt because it is missing and i get this error https://pastebin.com/yMBhWGcq [01:57] if you prefer downloading from the web you should disable (comment out) the "cdrom" lines in /etc/apt/sources.list [02:00] thanks I fixed it === pikapika is now known as pikapi === pikapi is now known as pikapika === genii-core is now known as genii [15:58] hello [15:59] new to xubuntu [15:59] whenever i open fonts from applications menu, system becomes unresponsive [15:59] anyone here facing this same issue ? [16:15] is there a open bug on this ? [16:21] xu-irc43w: try searching launchpad for bug reports [16:23] ok [16:25] i dont have launchpad accounts [16:25] is there any open urls to find bug reports [16:26] got it https://bugs.launchpad.net [16:28] something like this xu-irc43w ? https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=14659 [16:28] this person seemed to have a faulty drive tho [16:29] what application is the one failing xu-irc43w ? [16:47] fonts [16:47] one that in Accessories [16:52] xu-irc43w: have you tried loggin in as guest and see if the problem persists? [16:52] i haven't tried that [16:53] But tried with multiple times with same account, still issue persist [16:54] This is fresh os [17:00] i tried it just now on 20.04. it certainly works my computer for a moment. takes a while to come up and uses some ram [17:01] could it be it needs more resources than you have [17:01] in fact. i just minimised the fonts application to type here, and now it wont come back up. does seem to be an issue there [17:02] also could try turning off compositing in window manager tweaks. having that on has given me weird issues like this, and the system seems stabler with it off [17:06] Looks like a prebuilt issue [17:56] Turning off compositor, helps [17:56] After turning off compositor in settings, now able to open fonts app. [17:57] sophie you are right, turning off compositor fonts app opens without issues. [17:57] :) glad it's sorted! [17:57] GridCloud its issues with compositor [17:58] sophie yeah, thanks. [17:58] mmm [17:58] weird [17:59] what release are you using? [18:00] 5.11.0-38-generic #42~20.04.1-Ubuntu [18:01] question, do you have a .fonts folder in your ~/ directory? [18:02] let me have a quick look, wait pls [18:02] though if composition helped the problem is probably with rendering some font under composition [18:03] GridCloud nope .fonts folder is not there [18:03] interesting so it's not a custom font [18:03] ok [18:07] is this really needed ? command: fc-cache -f -v [18:08] i don't know what that does [18:08] rebuilding the font information [18:09] just got from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts [18:10] oh i think that just rebuilds the cache list of fonts [18:10] so it would display the font name on drop down lists when you install a new font [18:10] ok [18:12] try re-enabling composition and see if the crash happens on some of those drop down lists? like in libreoffice? [18:12] or when you choose a font on the xfce4-terminal? [18:14] you could also try to launch gnome-font-viewer from a terminal and see the crash report? [18:14] ok wait [18:16] crap, now it opening without issue, turned on compositor, now fonts app opens without issue [18:16] ?!!! confused [18:16] ah [18:17] yes good old magic [18:17] But !! what i have done ? what could be the issue here [18:17] no idea [18:18] maybe a font wasn't rendering properly, maybe re enabling it reseted soemthing that was being stubborn, maybe the gods smile at you [18:20] :) [18:24] xu-irc43w: the kernel version you posted seems to suggest you're on xubuntu 21.04 "hirsute" - note that 21.10 is released and you have 2 months left to upgrade. [18:24] *3 months === Mekaneck is now known as Fatal_Sushi [18:28] tomreyn oh i installed this xubuntu today, the link provided in LTS is this, will check and upgrade to next LTS. [18:29] xu-irc43w: i was just guessing based on your kernel version - but the version i mentioned is not an LTS release [18:29] xu-irc43w: lsb_release -ds will print what you have [18:29] there is also /etc/os-release [18:30] i'm sorry, i missed the "20.04.1-Ubuntu" part. apparently you're using a 20.04 HWE kernel image [18:32] NAME="Ubuntu" [18:32] VERSION="20.04.3 LTS (Focal Fossa)" [18:32] ID=ubuntu [18:32] ID_LIKE=debian [18:32] PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS" [18:32] VERSION_ID="20.04" [18:32] !paste | xu-irc43w [18:32] xu-irc43w: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [18:33] xu-irc43w: so if you're on 20.04 LTS (and don't want to move away from an LTS release) then you shouldn't upgrade, yet [18:33] ok [18:33] because there is no newer LTS release, yet - that will be 22.04 in 04/2022 (thus the version name). [18:41] xu-irc43w: if you wanted to get a better idea of what went wrong with the fonts, you could read your system logs: journalctl -b [18:42] (but this is where almost everything logs to, so it's pretty crammy) [18:43] where this logs stays in ? [18:47] is this '/var/log/syslog' ? [18:54] tomreyn here is the log with regard to fonts app crashing will this help ? https://pastebin.com/2wV70rmX [18:58] xu-irc43w: these logs are stored in a database (which gets automatically shorted regularly to not take too much disk space) in /var/log/journal [18:59] xu-irc43w: it does tell us that the font viewer really crashed, i.e. the program got closed because it programmatically failed [19:26] tomreyn Thanks for the help [19:27] xu-irc43w: you're welcome === sophi_ is now known as sophie [22:14] is there a way to make autonomous updates on xubuntu update to xubuntu not ubuntu because my laptop is not able to run ubuntu and it is causing me trouble [22:21] W7: Regardless of what exactly you mean by "update", it won't transform the install to Ubuntu to begin with. === sophi_ is now known as sophie