[00:38] <user|55> need help installing PCIe Network card, chiop Broadcom FC949ES
[00:38] <user|55> is detected by lspci, but not by ifconfig
[00:39] <user|55> Kubunto 20.10
[00:39] <user|55> Kubuntu 20.10
[00:39] <user|55> its a dual port card
[00:40] <user|55> 0a:00.0 Fibre Channel: Broadcom / LSI FC949ES Fibre Channel Adapter (rev 02)
[00:40] <user|55> 0a:00.1 Fibre Channel: Broadcom / LSI FC949ES Fibre Channel Adapter (rev 02)
[00:40] <user|55> Broadcom / LSI FC949ES 7204EP-LC
[00:42] <user|55> same problem as: https://forums.funtoo.org/topic/4957-fiber-channel-and-lsi-fc949es-7204ep-lc-mptfc/
[00:45] <valorie> !broadcom
[00:45] <valorie> user|55: ^^^
[00:51] <user|55> bcm*** is for WiFi USB, i need FC949
[00:52] <user|55> there are Drivers for Red Hat Enterprise RHEL5  Red Hat EL4.0, SuSE SLES9, and above
[01:02] <user|55> Debian Supported list has the module
[01:02] <user|55> https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI
[01:03] <user|55> 1000:0646 mptfc
[01:04] <user|55> how to install / activate the mptfc module in Kernel?
[01:25] <user|79> me again.... the fc9490es
[01:25] <user|79> me again.... the fc949es
[01:26] <user|79> $ modinfo mptfc
[01:26] <user|79> filename:       /lib/modules/5.8.0-63-generic/kernel/drivers/message/fusion/mptfc.ko
[01:26] <user|79> version:        3.04.20
[01:26] <user|79> license:        GPL
[01:26] <user|79> description:    Fusion MPT FC Host driver
[01:26] <user|79> author:         LSI Corporation
[01:48] <user|72> how do i upgrade from kubuntu 20.04 to 21.10
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[04:25] <aiko> hi
[04:26] <aiko> m
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[06:27] <Guest58> Hi, I need help with setting up Kate Text Editor for running Python on it
[06:37] <alkisg> Guest58: you want to run python inside kate? I think you should be looking for an IDE then, not a simple editor
[06:37] <alkisg> E.g. vscode, pycharm...
[06:37] <alkisg> While if you want to just open the terminal at the bottom of kate, and run python programs there without debugging, sure that's easy
[06:48] <Guest58> Oh, I didn't know it can't do debugging
[06:51] <Guest58> Is there a better open source alternative to Pycharm Community Version then? one that can make projects bigger than 2 GB
[06:57] <Guest58> Anyway, I gtg; thank you for your reply, alkisg
[06:58] <alkisg> Guest58: vscode is open source
[06:58] <alkisg> Guest58: you have a single code file over 2 GB?
[06:59] <alkisg> I think you misunderstood the limitation there...
[06:59] <alkisg> pycharm is great
[07:39] <Guest30> Hello
[12:39] <rtg> So, how bad is google chrome? Shouldnt be a problem to only have it run when i want it to and such, right? I know its terrible for privacy and such, but it cant be terrible with security, people are, after all, handling high-value assets in metamask for example?
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:13] <rtg> Hi BluesKaj
[13:13] <BluesKaj> hi rtg
[13:28] <mparillo> I used to use Chromium on all Google properties, figuring that they knew everything about me anyway. But now Ubuntu uses snaps for Chromium, so if I REALLY wanted the experience it is more of a toss-up between Chrome and Chromium..
[13:31] <mparillo> It looks like there is a .deb for ungoogled chromium https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/releases/debian_unportable/amd64/87.0.4280.141-1.unportable1 but I have never tried it.
[13:35] <rtg> mparillo: i dont plan on using it a lot either way. Just a few applications, as long as chrome doesnt do any stupid shit like trying to start when i dont want it to or running in the background when i dont want it to i figure it doenst matter with how rare i use and with the big market share of google chrome i figure any security issues ill not be the first to encounter espacialy with how rarely i plan of using it.
[13:41] <alkisg> In our 1000+ schools here, we had firefox as the default and chromium-browser as a fallback for certain cases. When chromium became a snap, we switched to google-chrome.deb. We didn't have any issues with it; if firefox snaps, we may even switch to google-chrome as the primary browser...
[13:51] <rtg> you use linux in "your 1000+" schools? Wheres that? Maybe that changed, too, since ive been at school, would make sense actualy since here in germany it would be illegal to use windows on a computer that gets in contact with customer/citicen data due to privacy laws mandating you tell people exactly what is going to be done with their data (and the option to have it removed) which you can not do if there is a possibility windows may send
[13:51] <rtg> some of it to a different nation entirely.
[13:55] <alkisg> rtg: in Greece, https://ts.sch.gr/wiki/Linux/LTSP/Προχωρημένα/Χάρτης
[13:59] <jiggawatt> yay Greece
[13:59] <jiggawatt> saving $$$  on proprietary licenses
[14:01] <rtg> I consider taxes waste in general. If something is in demand/makes sense to do it will be done in a free market, including security and such.
[14:01] <alkisg> In education at least; because some other areas of the public sector gave millions on MS licenses :)
[14:01] <alkisg> It's also nice to have a local expert team that customizes linux for schools; it's not 100% suitable out of the box
[14:33] <R13ose> Is there a way to tell how much power my wireless headphones has?  I'm USB charging them right now and still want to know.
[14:35] <logilype> R13ose maybe check your user manual how much mah your headphones battery has
[14:37] <R13ose> I have checked that.  I meant charge as in how 60% or 40% or 20% etc.
[14:41] <logilype> Maybe there is an addon or something that shows it
[14:43] <R13ose> I will look
[15:10] <Fatal_Sushi> R13ose: if it's about the head phone it's not a Kubuntu support question
[15:10] <Fatal_Sushi> unless you mean if there's a way to show in kubuntu
[15:12] <R13ose> I do mean a way to show in kubuntu
[15:13] <Fatal_Sushi> i don't think so unless it's bluetooth,
[15:13] <Fatal_Sushi> wait, even bluetooth doesn't show it
[15:13] <Fatal_Sushi> so no
[15:17] <TJ-> R13ose: many Bluetooth devices, when connected (on BT) will report their power levels via the system power monitor (e.g. here I see mouse and keyboard battery state)
[15:19] <Fatal_Sushi> TJ-: could it depend on the device?
[15:19] <Fatal_Sushi> and of course the Plasma version
[15:19] <R13ose> It's bluetooth
[15:20] <Fatal_Sushi> R13ose: which plasma version you use?
[15:20] <TJ-> Fatal_Sushi: yes, there's a 'protocol' for devices to use to report that info
[15:21] <Fatal_Sushi> i know my bluetooth headset doesn't show the percentage
[15:22] <R13ose> Plasma version is 5.22.5
[15:25] <Fatal_Sushi> R13ose: then it depends on your device wether it's showing or not
[15:30] <punkgeek> After the last Kubuntu 20.04 update, my laptop's fan runs at the maximum speed for no reason. Here is the sensor command output, which shows all temperatures are ok. https://paste.ofcode.org/UsNmrk2S5ykXJWPaHfmxR5
[15:41] <R13ose> Thanks!
[15:43] <Fatal_Sushi> np
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[18:07] <tomreyn> Juane: if it's been hours since you last asked your questionand you got no response, yet, it can be good to repeat it.
[18:08] <tomreyn> but not all questions will get an answer - try to provide problem details, system information (hardware, kubuntu version, kernel version), logs
[18:14] <rtg> wtf
[18:14] <rtg> why is kern.log nearly 300GB large?
[18:15] <rtg> and syslog another 300GB
[18:15] <TJ-> rtg: something generating messages presumably
[18:16] <rtg> thats... thats a lot of messages :D
[18:18] <rtg> okay. Appearently had to do with the game i had open as now it doesnt grow by 100 MB every couple seconds anymore.
[18:21] <TJ-> rtg: might be a good idea to see what those messages are!
[18:21] <rtg> it might be but like opening a 300GB large logfile?
[18:21] <rtg> thats... uhm how do i even handle a 300GB file like that
[18:23] <TJ-> look somewhere else, those log entries will be in the journal too I'd have thought, so the last 200: "journalctl -k -n 200 "
[18:23] <alkisg> tail -c 1000 /var/log/syslog
[18:27] <rtg> so theres a bit about denied audits with discord, but thats not gonna be the issue i dont think (whatever that means)
[18:27] <rtg> I believe the issue has something to do with the GPU
[18:28] <rtg> though no wait... those are all dated after i closed the game, so i need to go back further  than just 200 entries
[18:29] <TJ-> rtg: "journalctl -k --since="1 hour ago" "
 That might lag, if he got 100mb every couple seconds (re @IrcsomeBot: <TJ-> rtg: "journalctl -k --since="1 hour ago" ")
[18:30] <rtg> oh wait, no it is that. appearently the time at the beginning of each line is the time i do the journalctl thing...
[18:30] <rtg> yeah yeah. it was a GPU issue while the game was running.
[18:31] <rtg> hold on i make a paste
 Maybe try with 2000 lines and see which message is like 100s of times (re @IrcsomeBot: <rtg> though no wait... those are all dated after i closed the game, so i need to go back further  than just 200 entries)
[18:34] <rtg> those are the types of messages that constantly came up. THe date before the line however isnt actualy the date it happened, its the date i call journalctl, i was confused about that at first https://pastebin.com/1pXAmc8M
 Or even "sudo tail -c 20000 /var/log/syslog"
[18:36] <TJ-> rtg: hardware error
[18:37] <TJ-> rtg: that is reporting constant PCIe communication errors to/from the GPU
[18:37] <rtg> yeah
[18:37] <TJ-> rtg: try powering off and re-seating the GPU
[18:43] <rtg> Could it be a bios issue? Cause what caused me to fully switch to linux was windows forcing an update messing itself up in the process and i believe the bios was altered as well for while it is not consistently failing to boot it was not consistently booting, either(no matter wether windows on SSD, Kubuntu from USB, whatever), and it gave off beep codes that my mainboard shouldnt even have.
[18:45] <rtg> Having a Gigabyte board, and sometimes it did 2 long followed by 3 short beeps. Which is not an errorcode gigabyte lists, it does however corrospond to CMOS error in AMI-Bios which is the only one where i found a corrosponding code.
[18:49] <rtg> or just a game issue, gnomoria is not a stable game in the slightest, thats no news.
[18:49] <tomreyn> update the bios and you'll opssibly know whether it was a bios issue. the error is just with the graphics card (and the audio chip on it), though, not any other pci devices
[18:50] <tomreyn> it could also be a power supply issue, some graphics cards need a separate power supply.
[18:50] <rtg> currently running GLmark2 to see if that causes any issues.
[18:51] <rtg> certainly looking more complex than any of the sprites in gnomoria :D
[18:51] <tomreyn> journalctl -b | grep DMI:     will tell you your mainboard and firmware version
[18:54] <rtg> GLmark2 did end up having an error eventualy but that looks like a software problem with glmark2 https://pastebin.com/RvSeYBdQ
[18:57] <tomreyn> if the kernel already reports hardware errors, trying to analyze the hardware from user space is not going to be very fruitful
[18:58] <rtg> tomreyn: no. it doesnt. journalctl -b | grep DMI: seems to ramp the fan up for a bit while it seems to do something but then it doesnt print anything before it stops doing stuff.
[19:00] <tomreyn> rtg: hmm, did your disk run full by chance?
[19:00] <rtg> no, while those logs really ate up a lot of space theres still over 200GB available
[19:01] <tomreyn> which arch, kubuntu release is this?
[19:02] <rtg> 21.10,
[19:03] <tomreyn> and probably amd64. i guess you will be able to examine the bios version from the bios setup.
[19:07] <rtg> assuming its one bios version and not some weird result of windows trying to flash it and failing to completly do so... Which is what i think happened.
[19:09] <valorie> cmos has a battery and they can fail
[19:09] <rtg> at least what i suspect. really suspicious of the mainboard in general at this point.
[19:09] <valorie> it happened to me, years ago
[19:09] <rtg> i know, just replaced that battery.
[19:10] <rtg> in the course of adressing a different problem which in the end turned out to be a broken stick of memory or at least i think thats what it was.
[19:12] <rtg> its also possible we overanalysing a problem thats only sloppy coding? I dont know if that *could* result from the sloppy code of gnomoria?
[19:13] <rtg> first and only time that problem occoured, after all, and i know that to be not the most stable of games.
[19:14] <valorie> that is def. not KDE software -- you might find more help in #ubuntu
[19:15] <valorie> much larger channel
[19:29] <rtg> gonna reboot in any case, and hope im not running into severe problems tonight
[20:27] <rtg> yeah the GPU might have issues. On the bright side, they dont actualy... those issues dont actualy manifest in any way yet except in the logfiles whichs size, yes, can become a bit of an issue...
[20:38] <rtg> maybe just direct that stuff to dev/null may be the solution for now.
[20:53] <oerheks> 10de:0fb9 points to HDA audio, not gpu
[21:01] <rtg> huh
[21:02] <rtg> so im right to be suspicious of the mainboard then?! oerheks
[21:03] <oerheks> check your bios if an AC'97 mode exists for audio
[21:03] <oerheks> that would be basic 2.1
[21:03] <oerheks> .. or lower specs in that game?
[21:04] <rtg> oerheks: its appearently not exclusive to having a game run and uhm, this is the game https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/224500/ss_803fa919f0f3c0aca1d59b0c8e5e2e55be0f6ea0.600x338.jpg?t=1456262462
[21:06] <rtg> though now the logfiles are only 500mb each, which honestly compared to when the game was, well, it was paused and in menu, sure, but it was running and ticking up 100mb on each file every 2 seconds or so
[21:14] <rtg> But i can check on audio options of the mainboard.
[21:15] <logilype> i need help
[21:15] <rtg> in the bios i mean
[21:15] <logilype> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[21:15] <logilype> wget -nc https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key
[21:15] <logilype> sudo apt-key add winehq.key
[21:15] <logilype> sudo add-apt-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ hirsute main'
[21:15] <logilype> sudo apt update
[21:15] <logilype> sudo apt install --install-recommends winehq-devel
[21:20] <oerheks> for wine and their repo, join #winehq
[21:27] <rtg> Only option is to enable or disable what it calls "HD Audio". Disabling it means no audio at all.
[21:27] <rtg> and it works, just produces those logs is the only problem.
[21:40] <rtg> Though at the moment discord writes a lot more to the logs about denied audits whatever that means. may just end up disabling rsyslog, can allways check up on it if theres an actual problem
[21:42] <tomreyn> oerheks: 10de:0fb9 is the intel audio chip on an nvidia graphics card (for hdmi audio), for what i can tell
[23:06] <edwin> hi