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| lotuspsychje | alkisg: its happening, all iso's available | 14:17 |
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| alkisg | Yey! | 14:17 |
| lotuspsychje | grabbin a -desktop myself | 14:18 |
| TJ- | put that desk down immediately! | 14:19 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 14:19 |
| TJ- | here, have an ubuntu-chair instead | 14:20 |
| lotuspsychje | yes master :p | 14:20 |
| TJ- | shouldn't that be "yes main" ? :P | 14:20 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 14:20 |
| alkisg | Haha that took me 2 seconds to sink in | 14:21 |
| lotuspsychje | ok stick burned; wish me luck | 14:32 |
| lotuspsychje | if i dont return quick, im stuck in flutterspace | 14:32 |
| lotuspsychje | come help me then master TJ- :p | 14:32 |
| alkisg | 🤞 | 14:32 |
| TJ- | sorry, can't get 18.04 to even start! | 14:33 |
| lotuspsychje | rocknroll! | 14:49 |
| lotuspsychje | Client: HexChat 2.16.0 • OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz (1,80GHz) • Memory: Physical: 11,3 GiB Total (10,5 GiB Free) Swap: 2,0 GiB Total (2,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 21,2 GB / 239,3 GB (218,1 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 620 @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 3m 56s | 14:49 |
| alkisg | 4 minutes uptime is always encouraging! | 15:07 |
| alkisg | (kidding!) Any grave bugs so far? | 15:07 |
| lotuspsychje | not right away alkisg but im gonna tweak my settings around a bit first | 15:08 |
| alkisg | 👍️ | 15:09 |
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: i didnt see a ctrl C to skip integrity check at boot | 15:09 |
| lotuspsychje | so that might got bit slower start, but install itself was pretty fast | 15:09 |
| alkisg | I'm passing the nocdcheck parameter (or however it's called) from my liveusb script so I never see that | 15:10 |
| alkisg | The good thing with the check though is that it's loaded in ram so it then goes fast | 15:10 |
| lotuspsychje | wayland doesnt seem to be stuttering too much neither | 15:11 |
| lotuspsychje | looks pretty good so far | 15:13 |
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: know what happened to the snap dirs /loop? not showing under df -h anymore so it seems | 16:39 |
| alkisg | No idea, if you have a snap running and you type mount, does it show up? | 16:39 |
| lotuspsychje | ./var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox_631.snap on /snap/firefox/631 type squashfs (ro,nodev,relatime,x-gdu.hide) | 16:40 |
| alkisg | Maybe they patched df to omit them | 16:41 |
| alkisg | x-gdu.hide | 16:41 |
| lotuspsychje | nsfs on /run/snapd/ns/snap-store.mnt type nsfs (rw) | 16:41 |
| lotuspsychje | nsfs on /run/snapd/ns/firefox.mnt type nsfs (rw) | 16:41 |
| alkisg | ...that might mean something | 16:41 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah a lot of new logics | 16:42 |
| lotuspsychje | new workspaces rocknroll man | 16:43 |
| TJ- | what's the nsfs ? | 16:49 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure | 16:50 |
| TJ- | aha namespace file-system https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=e149ed2b805fefdccf7ccdfc19eca22fdd4514ac | 16:51 |
| ubottu | Commit e149ed2 in kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git "take the targets of /proc/*/ns/* symlinks to separate fs" | 16:51 |
| TJ- | makes sense, finding them under /proc/*/ns was a pain | 16:51 |
| lotuspsychje | https://imgur.com/a/ftJstqC | 17:05 |
| alkisg | Eh, the 8.04 brown was so much more elegant than this purple... :) | 17:50 |
| alkisg | I like the horizontal "panel" though! | 17:51 |
| lotuspsychje | heh | 17:51 |
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: the new workspaces are great https://imgur.com/a/ZzgBcss | 17:51 |
| lotuspsychje | i missed those since 16.04 | 17:52 |
| alkisg | I never managed to use more than one workspace | 17:52 |
| alkisg | And now that all major OSes support window snapping, I'm not sure I'll ever need anything more... | 17:52 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah its an organized thing into our minds :p | 17:53 |
| alkisg | My usual setup is a big window to the left part of the screen, a smaller one to the top right, and one to the bottom right | 17:54 |
| lotuspsychje | you are testing on mate right alkisg ? | 17:54 |
| alkisg | My main desktop is on mate, but I have a lot of distributions/DEs installed in various devices | 17:55 |
| lotuspsychje | ah cool | 17:55 |
| alkisg | lotuspsychje: the "bottom taskbar" style needs a plugin, or is it a stock option? | 17:56 |
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: yeah its changeable left/bottom/right these days and its a dock extension by default | 17:57 |
| alkisg | Do icons show up on the desktop too, by default? | 17:57 |
| alkisg | Actually let me download and see it, I guess it'll run in a VM... | 17:58 |
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: my home folder was now, but they added a desktop icons settings extension now | 17:58 |
| * alkisg hates that all of them are named jammy-desktop.iso, like there's only one desktop environment... | 17:59 | |
| lotuspsychje | heh | 18:00 |
| alkisg | lubuntu 22.04 iso => 327MB after booting and launching qterminal, not bad (it used to be 120 MB though) | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | i usualy test lubuntu lts too | 18:02 |
| alkisg | I stopped testing it with 18.04/32bit; if a PC is 64bit, there's little reason to use lubuntu... | 18:03 |
| lotuspsychje | well in belgium a lot of older machines still need a second life, that doesnt like gnome too much | 18:04 |
| alkisg | True true gnome is a hog; but MATE is almost as light as Lubuntu, but a lot more polished, | 18:05 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 18:05 |
| alkisg | while recently KDE became even lighter than MATE, as least in the initial RAM consumption test | 18:05 |
| lotuspsychje | kde has a lot of lovers out there, strong community | 18:06 |
| alkisg | Ubuntu 22.04 => 720MB with a terminal open | 18:06 |
| lotuspsychje | \o/ | 18:06 |
| alkisg | I thought it'd be worse :) | 18:06 |
| alkisg | How do I drag the dock bar to the bottom? | 18:07 |
| lotuspsychje | systemsettings/apearance | 18:07 |
| alkisg | Nice! | 18:08 |
| alkisg | Now if they only had a start menu as well :D | 18:08 |
| alkisg | It's hard to tell first graders to type the app name | 18:08 |
| lotuspsychje | there is a classicmenu-indicator that gives you one on top panel | 18:08 |
| alkisg | And for little things like "click on the taskbar icon to minimize an app", are there extensions or settings? | 18:10 |
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: dconf-editor for icon click behaviours tweaking | 18:11 |
| alkisg | Got it, ty | 18:11 |
| lotuspsychje | bll, couch time a bit ; ) | 18:11 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl | 18:11 |
| alkisg | Ah, google drive shows up in nautilus, that's a plus | 18:15 |
| alkisg | Although I've no idea what "email/calendar integration" I'm supposed to be seeing; is that on thunderbird, AFTER entering my mail details there once more? | 18:16 |
| FurretUber | Hi, I (as webchat95, apparently) was doing an upgrade by editing /etc/apt/sources.list. I notice that when I reported a bug, it's showing: "UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to jammy on 2019-12-22 (670 days ago)". Is this relevant? | 18:18 |
| TJ- | FurretUber: sounds like it has used a possibly commented-out line in sources.list about the original install media | 18:19 |
| TJ- | FurretUber: or else from one of the apt logs from the original install | 18:19 |
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