=== genii is now known as genii-core [14:17] alkisg: its happening, all iso's available [14:17] Yey! [14:18] grabbin a -desktop myself [14:19] put that desk down immediately! [14:19] lol [14:20] here, have an ubuntu-chair instead [14:20] yes master :p [14:20] shouldn't that be "yes main" ? :P [14:20] :p [14:21] Haha that took me 2 seconds to sink in [14:32] ok stick burned; wish me luck [14:32] if i dont return quick, im stuck in flutterspace [14:32] come help me then master TJ- :p [14:32] 🤞 [14:33] sorry, can't get 18.04 to even start! [14:49] rocknroll! [14:49] Client: HexChat 2.16.0 • OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz (1,80GHz) • Memory: Physical: 11,3 GiB Total (10,5 GiB Free) Swap: 2,0 GiB Total (2,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 21,2 GB / 239,3 GB (218,1 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 620 @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 3m 56s [15:07] 4 minutes uptime is always encouraging! [15:07] (kidding!) Any grave bugs so far? [15:08] not right away alkisg but im gonna tweak my settings around a bit first [15:09] 👍️ [15:09] alkisg: i didnt see a ctrl C to skip integrity check at boot [15:09] so that might got bit slower start, but install itself was pretty fast [15:10] I'm passing the nocdcheck parameter (or however it's called) from my liveusb script so I never see that [15:10] The good thing with the check though is that it's loaded in ram so it then goes fast [15:11] wayland doesnt seem to be stuttering too much neither [15:13] looks pretty good so far [16:39] alkisg: know what happened to the snap dirs /loop? not showing under df -h anymore so it seems [16:39] No idea, if you have a snap running and you type mount, does it show up? [16:40] ./var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox_631.snap on /snap/firefox/631 type squashfs (ro,nodev,relatime,x-gdu.hide) [16:41] Maybe they patched df to omit them [16:41] x-gdu.hide [16:41] nsfs on /run/snapd/ns/snap-store.mnt type nsfs (rw) [16:41] nsfs on /run/snapd/ns/firefox.mnt type nsfs (rw) [16:41] ...that might mean something [16:42] yeah a lot of new logics [16:43] new workspaces rocknroll man [16:49] what's the nsfs ? [16:50] not sure [16:51] aha namespace file-system https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=e149ed2b805fefdccf7ccdfc19eca22fdd4514ac [16:51] Commit e149ed2 in kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git "take the targets of /proc/*/ns/* symlinks to separate fs" [16:51] makes sense, finding them under /proc/*/ns was a pain [17:05] https://imgur.com/a/ftJstqC [17:50] Eh, the 8.04 brown was so much more elegant than this purple... :) [17:51] I like the horizontal "panel" though! [17:51] heh [17:51] alkisg: the new workspaces are great https://imgur.com/a/ZzgBcss [17:52] i missed those since 16.04 [17:52] I never managed to use more than one workspace [17:52] And now that all major OSes support window snapping, I'm not sure I'll ever need anything more... [17:53] yeah its an organized thing into our minds :p [17:54] My usual setup is a big window to the left part of the screen, a smaller one to the top right, and one to the bottom right [17:54] you are testing on mate right alkisg ? [17:55] My main desktop is on mate, but I have a lot of distributions/DEs installed in various devices [17:55] ah cool [17:56] lotuspsychje: the "bottom taskbar" style needs a plugin, or is it a stock option? [17:57] alkisg: yeah its changeable left/bottom/right these days and its a dock extension by default [17:57] Do icons show up on the desktop too, by default? [17:58] Actually let me download and see it, I guess it'll run in a VM... [17:58] alkisg: my home folder was now, but they added a desktop icons settings extension now [17:59] * alkisg hates that all of them are named jammy-desktop.iso, like there's only one desktop environment... [18:00] heh [18:02] lubuntu 22.04 iso => 327MB after booting and launching qterminal, not bad (it used to be 120 MB though) [18:02] cool [18:02] i usualy test lubuntu lts too [18:03] I stopped testing it with 18.04/32bit; if a PC is 64bit, there's little reason to use lubuntu... [18:04] well in belgium a lot of older machines still need a second life, that doesnt like gnome too much [18:05] True true gnome is a hog; but MATE is almost as light as Lubuntu, but a lot more polished, [18:05] yeah [18:05] while recently KDE became even lighter than MATE, as least in the initial RAM consumption test [18:06] kde has a lot of lovers out there, strong community [18:06] Ubuntu 22.04 => 720MB with a terminal open [18:06] \o/ [18:06] I thought it'd be worse :) [18:07] How do I drag the dock bar to the bottom? [18:07] systemsettings/apearance [18:08] Nice! [18:08] Now if they only had a start menu as well :D [18:08] It's hard to tell first graders to type the app name [18:08] there is a classicmenu-indicator that gives you one on top panel [18:10] And for little things like "click on the taskbar icon to minimize an app", are there extensions or settings? [18:11] alkisg: dconf-editor for icon click behaviours tweaking [18:11] Got it, ty [18:11] bll, couch time a bit ; ) [18:11] bbl [18:15] Ah, google drive shows up in nautilus, that's a plus [18:16] Although I've no idea what "email/calendar integration" I'm supposed to be seeing; is that on thunderbird, AFTER entering my mail details there once more? [18:18] Hi, I (as webchat95, apparently) was doing an upgrade by editing /etc/apt/sources.list. I notice that when I reported a bug, it's showing: "UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to jammy on 2019-12-22 (670 days ago)". Is this relevant? [18:19] FurretUber: sounds like it has used a possibly commented-out line in sources.list about the original install media [18:19] FurretUber: or else from one of the apt logs from the original install