[14:17] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: its happening, all iso's available
[14:17] <alkisg> Yey!
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> grabbin a -desktop myself
[14:19] <TJ-> put that desk down immediately!
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:20] <TJ-> here, have an ubuntu-chair instead
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> yes master :p
[14:20] <TJ-> shouldn't that be "yes main" ? :P
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:21] <alkisg> Haha that took me 2 seconds to sink in
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> ok stick burned; wish me luck
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> if i dont return quick, im stuck in flutterspace
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> come help me then master TJ- :p
[14:32] <alkisg> 🤞
[14:33] <TJ-> sorry, can't get 18.04 to even start!
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> rocknroll!
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> Client: HexChat 2.16.0 • OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz (1,80GHz) • Memory: Physical: 11,3 GiB Total (10,5 GiB Free) Swap: 2,0 GiB Total (2,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 21,2 GB / 239,3 GB (218,1 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 620 @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 3m 56s
[15:07] <alkisg> 4 minutes uptime is always encouraging!
[15:07] <alkisg> (kidding!) Any grave bugs so far?
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> not right away alkisg but im gonna tweak my settings around a bit first
[15:09] <alkisg> 👍️
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: i didnt see a ctrl C to skip integrity check at boot
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> so that might got bit slower start, but install itself was pretty fast
[15:10] <alkisg> I'm passing the nocdcheck parameter (or however it's called) from my liveusb script so I never see that
[15:10] <alkisg> The good thing with the check though is that it's loaded in ram so it then goes fast
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> wayland doesnt seem to be stuttering too much neither
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> looks pretty good so far
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: know what happened to the snap dirs /loop? not showing under df -h anymore so it seems
[16:39] <alkisg> No idea, if you have a snap running and you type mount, does it show up?
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> ./var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox_631.snap on /snap/firefox/631 type squashfs (ro,nodev,relatime,x-gdu.hide)
[16:41] <alkisg> Maybe they patched df to omit them
[16:41] <alkisg> x-gdu.hide
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> nsfs on /run/snapd/ns/snap-store.mnt type nsfs (rw)
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> nsfs on /run/snapd/ns/firefox.mnt type nsfs (rw)
[16:41] <alkisg> ...that might mean something
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> yeah a lot of new logics
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> new workspaces rocknroll man
[16:49] <TJ-> what's the nsfs ?
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> not sure
[16:51] <TJ-> aha namespace file-system https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=e149ed2b805fefdccf7ccdfc19eca22fdd4514ac
[16:51] <TJ-> makes sense, finding them under /proc/*/ns was a pain
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> https://imgur.com/a/ftJstqC
[17:50] <alkisg> Eh, the 8.04 brown was so much more elegant than this purple... :)
[17:51] <alkisg> I like the horizontal "panel" though!
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> heh
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: the new workspaces are great https://imgur.com/a/ZzgBcss
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> i missed those since 16.04
[17:52] <alkisg> I never managed to use more than one workspace
[17:52] <alkisg> And now that all major OSes support window snapping, I'm not sure I'll ever need anything more...
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> yeah its an organized thing into our minds :p
[17:54] <alkisg> My usual setup is a big window to the left part of the screen, a smaller one to the top right, and one to the bottom right
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> you are testing on mate right alkisg ?
[17:55] <alkisg> My main desktop is on mate, but I have a lot of distributions/DEs installed in various devices
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> ah cool
[17:56] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: the "bottom taskbar" style needs a plugin, or is it a stock option?
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: yeah its changeable left/bottom/right these days and its a dock extension by default
[17:57] <alkisg> Do icons show up on the desktop too, by default?
[17:58] <alkisg> Actually let me download and see it, I guess it'll run in a VM...
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: my home folder was now, but they added a desktop icons settings extension now
[17:59]  * alkisg hates that all of them are named jammy-desktop.iso, like there's only one desktop environment...
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> heh
[18:02] <alkisg> lubuntu 22.04 iso => 327MB after booting and launching qterminal, not bad (it used to be 120 MB though)
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> cool
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> i usualy test lubuntu lts too
[18:03] <alkisg> I stopped testing it with 18.04/32bit; if a PC is 64bit, there's little reason to use lubuntu...
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> well in belgium a lot of older machines still need a second life, that doesnt like gnome too much
[18:05] <alkisg> True true gnome is a hog; but MATE is almost as light as Lubuntu, but a lot more polished,
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[18:05] <alkisg> while recently KDE became even lighter than MATE, as least in the initial RAM consumption test
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> kde has a lot of lovers out there, strong community
[18:06] <alkisg> Ubuntu 22.04 => 720MB with a terminal open
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> \o/
[18:06] <alkisg> I thought it'd be worse :)
[18:07] <alkisg> How do I drag the dock bar to the bottom?
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> systemsettings/apearance
[18:08] <alkisg> Nice!
[18:08] <alkisg> Now if they only had a start menu as well :D
[18:08] <alkisg> It's hard to tell first graders to type the app name
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> there is a classicmenu-indicator that gives you one on top panel
[18:10] <alkisg> And for little things like "click on the taskbar icon to minimize an app", are there extensions or settings?
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: dconf-editor for icon click behaviours tweaking
[18:11] <alkisg> Got it, ty
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> bll, couch time a bit ; )
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[18:15] <alkisg> Ah, google drive shows up in nautilus, that's a plus
[18:16] <alkisg> Although I've no idea what "email/calendar integration" I'm supposed to be seeing; is that on thunderbird, AFTER entering my mail details there once more?
[18:18] <FurretUber> Hi, I (as webchat95, apparently) was doing an upgrade by editing /etc/apt/sources.list. I notice that when I reported a bug, it's showing: "UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to jammy on 2019-12-22 (670 days ago)". Is this relevant?
[18:19] <TJ-> FurretUber: sounds like it has used a possibly commented-out line in sources.list about the original install media
[18:19] <TJ-> FurretUber: or else from one of the apt logs from the original install