diddledani | messin' https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GhD3nTdu/image.png | 19:21 |
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daftykins | o0 | 19:22 |
diddledani | IBM mainframe | 19:23 |
diddledani | (emulated) | 19:23 |
daftykins | o rly | 19:24 |
diddledani | MVS is an OS from ancient times | 19:24 |
diddledani | "First released in 1974" | 19:25 |
diddledani | ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MVS | 19:25 |
* daftykins wields a chocolate orange | 20:02 | |
m0nkey_ | diddledani: I remember using RFE on a real IBM Z series mainframe. | 21:11 |
m0nkey_ | diddledani: let me guess, you watched the L1Techs video with Tron Guy? | 21:45 |
diddledani | maaaybe | 21:45 |
diddledani | I fancied seeing what it was like | 21:45 |
diddledani | it's confusing | 21:46 |
zxmpi_ | i keep looking at the pipdp and have to keep telling myself no :-) https://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-11 | 21:46 |
m0nkey_ | My first IT helpdesk job, I had to manage users on IBM Mainframe using RACF | 21:46 |
zxmpi_ | of course being from 1975 it's just modern rubbish :-P | 21:47 |
m0nkey_ | https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos-basic-skills?topic=zos-what-is-racf | 21:47 |
m0nkey_ | mainframes are a total different kind of animal | 21:49 |
zxmpi_ | if you're going to learn cobol properly... :-P | 21:49 |
m0nkey_ | 2hrs left of my on-call | 21:50 |
m0nkey_ | and I can sleep tonight | 21:50 |
m0nkey_ | Since Friday evening, I've had about 7, maybe 8 hours sleep. | 21:50 |
diddledani | even DOS is weird before version 3 - that's about when it became sensible and recognisable by modern standards | 21:51 |
zxmpi_ | when i started dos 3.3 was the business. new AND shiny | 21:53 |
zxmpi_ | ms dos AND ibm dos. ibm dos had way better manuals | 21:53 |
m0nkey_ | earliest version of DOS I ever used was PC-DOS 2.0 | 21:56 |
m0nkey_ | And that was running in the 90s when I worked at my local Safeway. The computers upstairs ran PC-DOS 2.0 and all the checkouts running it too. | 21:57 |
m0nkey_ | And these things were never powered off for the entire time they were in use. | 21:57 |
diddledani | those handsets for shop-n-go ran DOS, too | 21:57 |
zxmpi_ | yeah i did see some really old shit. cp/m on a few dozen systems | 21:57 |
diddledani | they were netbooted | 21:58 |
zxmpi_ | oooh cpm netbook. systems with 64k of ram. first machine would boot off 5mb hard drive. and then 1 by 1 the rest would take their turn to load os and apps from disk over network | 21:59 |
zxmpi_ | *netboot | 21:59 |
zxmpi_ | about 5-10 minutes for system to fully boot 6 machines | 22:00 |
daftykins | m0nkey_: what's kept you up? | 22:02 |
m0nkey_ | daftykins: I'm on-call this weekend. | 22:02 |
daftykins | surely you still sleep Saturday night! | 22:03 |
m0nkey_ | If I recall, the Safeway I worked at use old school 10Base5 vampire taps | 22:03 |
m0nkey_ | daftykins: I wish. gotta keep them source control systems maintained, even over the weekends. | 22:04 |
zxmpi_ | the batteries in my psion have died. they lasted 25+ weeks. i request a moment of silence for their valiant effort :-) | 22:26 |
m0nkey_ | thats getting close to nokia battery life territory | 22:29 |
zxmpi_ | slightly more than 4 aa batteries a year, it's a real burden :-P | 22:30 |
zxmpi_ | gonna see if i can find lithium aa batteries to bung in next time :-D | 22:30 |
m0nkey_ | with lithium you should be able to overclock it lol | 22:31 |
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