[19:21] messin' https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GhD3nTdu/image.png [19:22] o0 [19:23] IBM mainframe [19:23] (emulated) [19:24] o rly [19:24] MVS is an OS from ancient times [19:25] "First released in 1974" [19:25] ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MVS [20:02] * daftykins wields a chocolate orange [21:11] diddledani: I remember using RFE on a real IBM Z series mainframe. [21:45] diddledani: let me guess, you watched the L1Techs video with Tron Guy? [21:45] maaaybe [21:45] I fancied seeing what it was like [21:46] it's confusing [21:46] i keep looking at the pipdp and have to keep telling myself no :-) https://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-11 [21:46] My first IT helpdesk job, I had to manage users on IBM Mainframe using RACF [21:47] of course being from 1975 it's just modern rubbish :-P [21:47] https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos-basic-skills?topic=zos-what-is-racf [21:49] mainframes are a total different kind of animal [21:49] if you're going to learn cobol properly... :-P [21:50] 2hrs left of my on-call [21:50] and I can sleep tonight [21:50] Since Friday evening, I've had about 7, maybe 8 hours sleep. [21:51] even DOS is weird before version 3 - that's about when it became sensible and recognisable by modern standards [21:53] when i started dos 3.3 was the business. new AND shiny [21:53] ms dos AND ibm dos. ibm dos had way better manuals [21:56] earliest version of DOS I ever used was PC-DOS 2.0 [21:57] And that was running in the 90s when I worked at my local Safeway. The computers upstairs ran PC-DOS 2.0 and all the checkouts running it too. [21:57] And these things were never powered off for the entire time they were in use. [21:57] those handsets for shop-n-go ran DOS, too [21:57] yeah i did see some really old shit. cp/m on a few dozen systems [21:58] they were netbooted [21:59] oooh cpm netbook. systems with 64k of ram. first machine would boot off 5mb hard drive. and then 1 by 1 the rest would take their turn to load os and apps from disk over network [21:59] *netboot [22:00] about 5-10 minutes for system to fully boot 6 machines [22:02] m0nkey_: what's kept you up? [22:02] daftykins: I'm on-call this weekend. [22:03] surely you still sleep Saturday night! [22:03] If I recall, the Safeway I worked at use old school 10Base5 vampire taps [22:04] daftykins: I wish. gotta keep them source control systems maintained, even over the weekends. [22:26] the batteries in my psion have died. they lasted 25+ weeks. i request a moment of silence for their valiant effort :-) [22:29] thats getting close to nokia battery life territory [22:30] slightly more than 4 aa batteries a year, it's a real burden :-P [22:30] gonna see if i can find lithium aa batteries to bung in next time :-D [22:31] with lithium you should be able to overclock it lol