[06:24] <jibel> Good morning everyone!
[06:31] <duflu> Hi jibel 
[06:35] <jibel> Hey duflu 
[06:47] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:55] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[07:00] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[07:00] <callmepk> hi duflu jibel oSoMoN 
[07:01] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk 
[07:02] <didrocks> good morning!
[07:02] <callmepk> hi didrocks 
[07:04] <didrocks> hey callmepk 
[07:06] <duflu> Hi didrocks 
[07:08] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[07:10] <ricotz> hey :) oSoMoN duflu callmepk didrocks 
[07:10] <duflu> Hi ricotz 
[07:12] <didrocks> morning ricotz 
[07:36] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, good morning ricotz 
[07:40] <didrocks> bonjour oSoMoN 
[07:46] <jibel> salut oSoMoN didrocks ricotz 
[07:47] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[07:51] <callmepk> hi ricotz 
[08:07] <oSoMoN> salut jibel 
[08:08] <ricotz> hey jibel 
[08:09] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[08:10] <jamesh> oSoMoN: I might be totally off base about the Firefox issue here: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/firefox-snap-wont-start-under-ubuntu-21-10/27219/5?u=jamesh -- but if you don't have other ideas it might be something to test
[08:11] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 
[08:12] <oSoMoN> jamesh, yes, that's a good suggestion, thanks!
[08:15] <duflu> Hi seb128 
[08:21] <KGB-1> gnome-shell-extension-impatience tags ebac97e Jonathan Carter upstream/0.4.6 * https://deb.li/3keIe
[08:23] <seb128> hey jamesh oSoMoN duflu, how are you?
[08:24] <jamesh> good
[08:26] <duflu> seb128, not bad, you?
[08:27] <oSoMoN> seb128, so far so good, my immune system is resisting the cold that my daughters brought back from school
[08:27] <seb128> duflu, tired but alright, I was waken up at 1am and again 6am and didn't manage to go back to sleep before the start of the day :-/
[08:27] <oSoMoN> ouch :/
[08:27] <duflu> :S
[08:27] <seb128> oSoMoN, don't forgot to sleep enough to increase the chance it stays this way!
[08:28] <oSoMoN> yes, that's a wise piece of advice, sleeping is key
[08:42] <ricotz> seb128, jamesh, hello
[09:07] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you?
[09:09] <seb128> Trevinho, could you try to find an upstream to nag to review https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/634 ?
[09:09] <ricotz> seb128, all good here, I hope you find some rest over lunch :)
[09:10] <seb128> ricotz, thanks :)
[20:10] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, I've pinged Matthias
[20:10] <Trevinho> also do you know what's happening on pygobject?
[20:10] <Trevinho> it fails for a dependency I don't get
[20:12] <seb128> Trevinho, what is failing?
[20:12] <Trevinho> seb128: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygobject/3.42.0-1+build1/+build/22338395 
[20:12] <Trevinho> a build depend on itself?
[20:12] <seb128> yes, seems weird, check with jbicha 
[20:13] <Trevinho> looking at the logs it seems to fail as per cairo pkg, not sure if required by other dep?
[20:13] <Trevinho>  python3-gi-cairo : Depends: python3-gi (= 3.42.0-1) but it is not installable
[20:14] <seb128> well it's a binary from the same source
[20:14] <Trevinho> ah! gnome-pkg-tools depends on it?
[20:14] <Trevinho> not sure if that's picked though
[20:15] <Trevinho> so yeah...dh-sequence-gnome picks it I feel, and that's requiring gi-cairo
[20:16] <Trevinho> not sure how though, but it's marked as reverse dependency...
[20:16] <Trevinho> bah, no idea, I think locally i got it building fine on jammy
[20:18] <Trevinho> ah no it does only when using aptitude as dep resolver method
[20:19] <seb128> :-(
[20:19] <seb128> we had that issue in the past
[20:21] <Trevinho> mhmh, so gnome-pkg-tools brings in perl:any, dh-translations, gir1.2-rsvg-2.0, gir1.2-glib-2.0, python3, python3-gi-cairo, scour (>= 0.36-1~) not sure how it's generated, as the source isn't requiring it per se,
[20:22] <Trevinho> ah, that's scour the guilty
[20:26] <Trevinho> seb128: not sure if this is adding too complexity, but I think one way could be using gnome-pkg-tools to be as debian one is, thus providing a gnome-pkg-tools-ubuntu that in our case is the one providing dh-sequence-gnome, while the other will provide dh-sequence-gnome-debian or something like that...
[20:26] <Trevinho> then, low-level packages such as python3-gobject could just use dh-sequence-gnome-debian
[20:27] <Trevinho> otherwise, a temporary upload with ubuntu disabled features... and then back in
[20:27] <Trevinho> but it's a bit annoying that we may get into this chicken-egg problem again
[20:28] <Trevinho> or downgrading to suggests/recommends could somewhat improve this?
[20:36] <Trevinho> ok, with recommends compiles, but... is it this strong enough to always bring such packages (scour and its deps) in?
[20:38] <Trevinho> oh, well... actually scour already recommends python3-gi-cairo and friends, so imho we could just recommend scour, and it will install what needed if possible
[20:49] <seb128> Trevinho, we had to do that workaround in the past, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-pkg-tools/0.18.0ubuntu3
[20:49] <seb128> probably easiest to just do a workaround upload
[21:42] <jbicha> Trevinho: the problem started with Debian's gobject-introspection setting extra Breaks
[21:43] <Trevinho> jbicha: I see, well for now I've uploaded one without explicit depends, still wondering if normally the reccomends are picked if they don't cause troubles
[22:18] <jbicha> it looks like your upload allows gobject-introspection to build which should clear up the problem. Recommends are not installed by default on official builders so we'll need to undo your change once things clear up