=== joe is now known as Guest5790 [00:41] I'm using ebtables on Ubuntu 20.04 with KVM VMs but I'm finding that the more ebtables rules I have, the slower the UDP single threaded network performance is for the VPS that has its ebtables rule at the bottom of the ebtables rule list. This same issue is no where near as visible on Redhat based OS's. I've already tested HWE and 5.14 kernels with no change. Anyone any idea of a potential solution for this? [00:41] Hello, I came here reporting about one core being highly used on my laptop even with nothing open. It's still happening seemingly randomly, but I was able to get some screenshots from htop and ps about CPU usage. However I still can't see what's causing it. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mvu7ClCOKziSCF3niXU-nCIzdfn83Tu6?usp=sharing Here are the screenshots. Thoughts on what could be causing it? [00:42] cuddylier: pastebin the ubuntu rules and rhel rules and maybe someone will have suggestions? [00:43] i would use nftables, it is in the kernel [00:45] computerjoe314: try running sudo perf top -- it might help spot whatever the machine is doing [00:45] computerjoe314, kworker ? [00:47] I use software that has ebtables functionality built into it, I would love to use nftables instead though. It's just odd the issue only appears with Ubuntu, at least in such an extreme way. [00:48] Here is an excerpt from the ebtables rules: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Tm6M6GMRnN/plain/ [00:48] The interface viifv9452 having the slowest speeds and viifv9446 the fastest. [00:49] maybe it is not the rules, but the order of rules.. [00:49] Single threaded UDP throughput is 1.79Gb/s to a remote location with 1 set of ebtables rules for one VM and when you scale that to 60 VMs worth of ebtables rules, the network performance drops to 500Mb/s for the last interface in the rule list. [00:50] no idea with ebtables [00:50] computerjoe314: try running sudo perf top -- it might help spot whatever the machine is doing [00:50] I know that nftables uses a map so avoids this issue of going down ebtables rules sequentially. === ur5us_ is now known as ur5us [00:57] can 2 nvidia gpu cards of different model be run and configured with 2 different nvidia drivers? [00:57] ball: with ubuntu live boot - all 4 monitors coming out of these 2 gpu's work perfectly fine - but after installing ubuntu, only 2 works [00:58] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/vpsgzov7/ [00:59] I think I've heard two different nvidia drivers at once just doesn't work [01:01] Do I have to install AMDGPU pro and how can I install the open source drivers? [01:02] vqueiroz: What is your Ubuntu version? [01:02] VMGuy23: Ubuntu 20.04 - I'm new on Ubuntu world =) [01:02] vqueiroz: 'ubuntu-drivers install' will probably do the right thing [01:02] I'm coming from debian [01:02] 11 [01:03] open amdgpu is installed, i guess. get the pro from their site? [01:03] sarnold: i don't think ubuntu-drivers will install the open source amdgpu nor the proprietary amdgpu-pro overlay. [01:03] vqueiroz: download the latest drivers from AMD website and install them with the script [01:03] Maybe this >> https://amdgpu-install.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install-installing.html#installing-the-all-open-variant [01:03] But I'm getting some glitches. I've installed the pro version. Might be related? [01:03] tomreyn: yeah the closed stuff will probably require going to their website, but I haven't heard what their closed stuff offers [01:04] vqueiroz: no, you do not need to install amdgpu-pro most of the time. and the default and fine amdgpu will already be installed and working [01:04] Also I had some OpenGL code that was working on my Debian 11 install with OS amdgpu driver and now glGenTextures returns 0 =( [01:04] install the All-Open variant ??? weird, you should have it already [01:05] Why is focal on archive? e_e [01:05] br.archive.... ? [01:07] sarnold: i'm not sure exactly either about the features. i think -pro is primarily targetted at 'professional use' (and there primarily with their 'professinal' hardware models. but all i've read about it is that -pro causes problems whenever people miss to read the compatibility notes (which usually rule out HWE kernels, or only provide compatibility for those with much delay) [01:09] vqueiroz: i think we can say that unless you *know* that you need -pro, you don't need, and moreover don't want it. [01:11] tomreyn: or perhaps some way to make sure they get a few bucks for their efforts from people who Really Care.. [01:13] sarnold: -pro is also free (as in beer) for all i know, if that's what you mean? [01:13] tomreyn: oh :) I figured it was expensive $$$ for commercial users [01:14] the 'professional' hardware is much more expensive (while not actually adding *that* much), that would be the 'supporter ticket' [01:29] `btrfs fi show` - could someone clarify? I added a 2T disk to a RAID1 and I think I should have > 1T free space, but ... [01:29] $ sudo btrfs fi show /home/dev/Data [01:29] Label: 'data' uuid: 091af054-b597-4215-b7bc-dacf1158a417 [01:29] Total devices 3 FS bytes used 1.62TiB [01:29] devid 1 size 1.82TiB used 1.08TiB path /dev/mapper/luks.data.1 [01:29] devid 2 size 1.82TiB used 1.08TiB path /dev/mapper/luks.data.2 [01:29] !paste [01:29] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:37] How can I be sure amdgpu is the driver being used? I was surprised there is no wiki on Ubuntu to tell me to mess with xorg config files [01:38] I uninstalled amdgpu and now I can render my stuff with OpenGL. [01:38] vqueiroz: xorg configuration is usually generated on the fly as xorg starts up. glxinfo should tell which renderer is active. [01:38] spci -nn | grep -E 'VGA|Display' or sudo lshw -c video [01:39] lspci ^^ [01:41] https://termbin.com/aiyd [01:42] tomreyn: Does that make any sense? ^ amdgpu [01:43] Ok so, trying again ... `btrfs fi show` - could someone clarify? I added a 2T disk to a RAID1 and I think I should have > 1T free space, but ... [01:44] http://sprunge.us/61hB0s [01:45] vqueiroz: i think so. glxinfo -B is what you want, i think, it should include the "Accelerated:" info also, without outputting too much. but this looks liek you're using amdgpu now. [01:46] i have a desktop with ubuntu 20.04 i cannot update any packages because the system was interrupted while updating a package. Every time I try to run dpkg --configure -a to fix it, my pc freezes up [01:46] tomreyn: It says accelerated, yes. [01:47] Dedicated video memory: 8192 MB [01:47] Total available memory: 24148 MB [01:47] How come? [01:47] some ram is dedicated to the gpu [01:47] 8gb in your case [01:47] devslash: system freezes upon configuring package? that's weird. i'd say boot to recovery and do a file system check [01:47] how do i boot to recovery [01:48] !recovery [01:48] If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [01:48] apt install -f would fix such break [01:49] vqueiroz: first line is video ram (actually located on the graphics card), second line is system memory (on the mainboard). [01:49] Ok, LL I want `btrfs fi usage` rather than show... [01:50] But that's strange too, because it has this line: [01:51] Data,RAID1: Size:1.63TiB, Used:1.63TiB (99.96%) [01:51] How do I interpret that, given that the esimated free space is 1.09T? [01:51] Free (estimated): 1.09TiB (min: 1.09TiB) [01:54] Diagon: i'm pretty clueless about btrfs, but here's a guess: "Data,RAID1: Size:1.63TiB" is the size of the RAID-1 device, "Used:1.63TiB (99.96%)" is the partitioned space on it, "Free (estimated): 1.09TiB (min: 1.09TiB)" is the available unallocated space on the existing file system. [01:56] i cannot do fsck in recovery mode [01:57] try; apt install -f [01:57] ok [01:58] it wont let me [01:58] says i have to run dpkg --configure -a [01:58] Then run dpkg --configure -a [01:58] so I tried that command and even in recovery mode, my pc locks up [01:59] pc locks up .. for how long? [01:59] permanently [02:00] i mean i waited a few minutes and caps lock doesnt light up on the kb [02:00] so it seems to be deads [02:00] dead [02:00] ouch [02:00] yes, oke, no caps light is an indicator for that [02:00] if i dont update i think it will continue to work [02:00] backup data and reinstall [02:00] but im permanetly stuck [02:01] i just reinstalled recently... [02:01] this is so fcking annoying... [02:01] do a memtest86 run, to exclude bad ram [02:02] i already replaced the ram with known good ram [02:02] same issue [02:02] bought a new cpu cooler [02:02] because i assumed that it was bad... [02:03] if you're at a text console now, you might get better diagnostics when it locks up [02:03] no [02:03] theres no output [02:03] its just frozen [02:03] and i have to do a hard reset [02:03] what package did it try to configure immediately before it locked? [02:03] it said building modulews [02:04] modules [02:04] which module? [02:04] do you *need* it? [02:04] i dont know [02:05] hang on ill send a screenshot [02:05] devslash: is ubuntu freshly installed on this system? has the system been locking up before? [02:06] fairly recently i dont think its been more than 1-2 months [02:06] it started recently [02:07] i'd agree on the memtest, though if you already replaced ram, it's more likely something else. but the memtest might still show errors, telling you it's definitely a hardware problem [02:07] or it might just lock up there, too, which would also say that [02:07] imgur.com/a/9ldrWBW [02:08] 404 [02:08] imgur.com/a/9IdrWBW [02:08] sorry I and l look the same when I is in lowercase [02:09] a common problem, unless you use a proper monotype font [02:09] its not my issue [02:09] its imgur [02:09] they generated the link [02:10] or copy-paste the text [02:10] cant [02:10] its way too difficult to type out [02:10] thats why i screenshotted it [02:11] I meant the imgur url ;) [02:11] i did type it [02:11] thats why I misspelled it [02:11] wish they wouldnt use l and lowercase I [02:12] is this ubuntu 21.10? [02:12] no [02:12] 21.04 [02:13] oh 20.04 LTS you said [02:13] sorry typo [02:13] i cant do anything without running into this issue where it wants me to run dpkg --configure -a [02:14] i have virtualbox installed. i dont know for sure that its the cause but i do know it installs kernel modules [02:14] if i could uninstall it, MAYBE that would fix it but i dont know.... [02:15] what about sudo dpkg --configure -a [02:15] im in a recovery [02:15] so i dont need to use sudo and as i mentioned htat locks up my pc [02:16] devslash: hah, if you've got the virtualbox *guest* stuff installed that is seriously unhappy. I can't remember now what it does, but this sounds familiar [02:16] im not sure that thats the cause.... [02:17] yeah. I wish the dkms output said what stupid module it was trying to build. it shouldn't hang when building modules, that feels like bad hardware territory. but still. [02:17] im only speculating... because when you install it, it compiles modules for your specific kernel version [02:17] i dunno im close to dumping this thing in the trash [02:17] so, next boot -- mv /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms to /root/dkms or something, and then try the dpkg --configure -a again [02:17] b==thats the command [02:17] oh you mean boot normally [02:18] then try that ? [02:18] or in recovery [02:18] i mounted the os rw in recovery [02:18] tomreyn - thanks, but ... I'm not sure I understand that. Here's the full output. [02:18] http://sprunge.us/oclnDC [02:18] recovery is nice, it makes it easy to get these photos of errors :) [02:18] so id assume i can do this from recovery too right sarnold [02:18] devslash: that's my hope, yeah [02:19] ok i moved dkms and im trying again [02:19] crossing my fingers [02:19] holy shitballs [02:20] it finished this time [02:20] hey all [02:20] question, hhow to remove a faultiy repository ? [02:20] find it in /etc/apt/source.list.d === Syntax-0 is now known as Syntax [02:20] i think that thats the correct path or very close to it [02:21] is it possible to run touch apps inside a vanilla install of Ubuntu? If someone could point me to a URL, I'd be grateful [02:21] devslash: sweet [02:22] you're a freaking genius [02:22] Diagon: sorry, i'm really not familiar enough with btrfs to comment. i do recommend that you read up much about btrfs and which scenarios are known safe and reliable with it. [02:22] devslash: so.. I'm not sure what the next steps are -- but it'd be worthwhile to try to figure it out [02:22] names in that derectory doesnt correspond devslash [02:22] well at least now i know what to do in this scenario [02:22] K, thanks... [02:22] devslash: you'll either need those dkms modules for something important -- you weren't doing it for fun, right? :) -- so maybe you need to troubleshoot why it fails.. or maybe it's enough to remove whatever module you're building [02:22] its for my graphics drivers [02:22] right now it boots in low res [02:23] but w/e [02:23] bummer :( [02:23] better than locking up [02:23] i can hopefully fix it [02:23] i might update to 21.10 [02:24] or maybe install the HWE kernel on your system, if the newer kernels may have support for your cards in it already, and not require the dkms packages [02:25] i dunno. my card is an nvidia gtx750ti [02:25] hmm, lomiri might be what I'm looking for [02:26] devslash is already using linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04, but not the latest version [02:29] question, hhow to remove a faultiy repository ? did you add a PPA? [02:29] no idea what a PPA is [02:29] VIA: Personal Package Archive [02:29] ok so spoke too soon... [02:30] Someone maintains it by themself [02:30] oh [02:30] normally [02:30] hi guys [02:30] sarnold, i did apt upgrade and it got stuck at 80% [02:30] VIA give us some output of faulty repository? in a pastebin [02:30] devslash: aw man :( [02:30] when I say stuck I mean the entire pc freezes [02:31] =( [02:31] I think memtest86 .. or memtest86+, depending [02:32] I'm going to try and see if i can luck out and borrow a processor from someone at my work. I really hope that someone has a processor that matches my socket [02:40] Hello [02:43] Beginner level to Linux. General experience and basically know my way around a terminal [02:44] jay20: just ask your question :0 [02:45] I got two raspberry pis and two thermal printers that connect on USB. [02:46] going to use print node from woo commerce, how do I print two printers at once. Same document [02:47] Any ideas on how to print the same document to two printers [02:53] Anyone here got an idea? [02:53] jay20: print it to one, then to the other [02:55] It’ll have to be an automatic type of thing where anything printed is printed on both A and B automatically === VMGuy23 is now known as hh === hh is now known as VMGuy23 [03:07] why did canonical make multipass [03:07] what does it achieve? [03:07] easy ubuntu vm [03:07] VMGuy23: isn't qemu/kvm easy vm? [03:08] i'm trying to see why a whole virtualisation system was created, at first I thought it was primarily for snapcraft [03:08] i'm still struggling to understand the way that snapcraft really works [03:08] quazimodo: true but like single command, no download, ubuntu vm in a few mins [03:08] VMGuy23: who's the target? [03:09] i would expect devops engineers & sysadmns to be able to handle server virtualisation using qemu/kvm as business as usual [03:09] so i presume it's not for them? [03:09] quazimodo: snap devs who compile their apps in the container so it will work in the snap no matter what the ubuntu ver [03:09] ok so it /is/ primarily for snapcraft? [03:09] i think so [03:10] ok understood [03:10] i tried snapcraft once [03:10] do you know if the snap itself launches a vm? [03:10] i think the snap does [03:10] but a very light one [03:10] ok so the build image could be some much heavier image? [03:10] this sounds like a multipart docker build [03:11] build in heavy image, copy assets into the light deployable [03:11] i just wish there were c4 diagrams of these things :( [03:12] i dont know that much but snaps use core ubuntu images with added dependencies for building and running and i think multipass might use the same very light vm [03:12] that sentence confuses me [03:13] snaps use core ubuntu images with added deps, they're running those images within multipass right? [03:14] i think so [04:31] Hello!! I have ubuntu 20.04 and my swap memory is at a certain partition, not in a file (> swapon -s ===OUTPUTS==> /dev/dm-2 partition 1003516 1003516 -2); How can I increase the size of swap memory? Can I create an additional swap file + swap partition OR can I use either a partition OR a file (not both) for swap? [04:34] Hi [04:36] My computer froze on an upgrade and I can no longer start it, unfortunately it is encrypted, is there a way for me to reinstall it with a usb (I'm on a live now) and repair it? [04:38] the answer is yeah almost always, but if you have important data on there you should consider making a disk image [04:39] there's a sizable risk that in trying to fix things you lose your current things [04:42] I need a few files from it the hdd, so perhaps I could just get those and then wipe it [04:42] ah that ought to be straight forward [04:42] back those up first, then decide if you want to fix or wipe [04:42] SupremeKai: what on earth [04:43] why you don't just have a sufficiently large swap partition? [04:43] is there some functional requirement? [04:43] depending on your partition scheme you could use a tool like gparted to increase your swap space size [04:44] i'm not sure if you can ever have multiple swap spaces/files combination [04:44] add a swap file, ought to work :) [04:45] quazimodo, I tried but I don't have unallocated free space available to add to the partition [04:45] rk4 i dont really get how to mount it and access it [04:45] rk4, can I have both? [04:45] SupremeKai: your ssd is too full? [04:45] how can yo uhave space for a swap file? [04:46] o my bad, perhaps you can unallocated some space [04:46] gparted lets you resize partitions [04:46] quazimodo, it is a bit, but the main concern is that I don't know exactly how to do it with gparted [04:46] SupremeKai: i believe so yeah [04:46] I already tried that path [04:46] right [04:46] you can even give them priorities [04:47] How can I assign priorities? [04:47] rk4 i used the gui "disks" thing, entered the password for the partition, but i don't get how to get the files [04:47] quazimodo, to tell you the truth I'm kind of fearful of messing up the partitions nbeucase I need to get some unallocated space [04:48] SupremeKai: if your data isn't backed up you're in a worse situation tbh [04:48] ssd & hdd fail all the time [04:48] get your important stuff backed up man [04:48] Friendlyfox: unsure how to use the guis, i use cryptosetup luksOpen, then mount [04:49] rk4: lol i had to resize /everything/ using that [04:49] what a pain in the dick [04:49] but actually worked really well [04:49] Friendlyfox: possibly the automagic has already done the luksOpen for you, and even the mount [04:49] quazimodo, yup that's my problem, I don't have any backup of my stuff [04:49] had to figure out how big the encryted space is, then how big it should be, then this then that [04:49] I need to get an extra ssd [04:49] SupremeKai: dropbox it! [04:53] gosh i will never ever not do a backup again [04:53] yup :) I'll start by backin' up all this stuff :P [04:54] thank you all quazimodo rk4 Friendlyfox [05:03] rk4 yeah i dont get it to work, not sure if i messed it up [05:04] https://twitter.com/kuschku/status/1450247425852125185 ouch [05:06] "probably corrupted filesystem" [05:06] Friendlyfox: pastebing `lsblk` [05:06] [also blkid] [05:18] rk4 at part sda3 i got luks, it got root (lvm) and swap_1 (lvm) [05:19] what do I do with that in the terminal just to access the files? [05:22] `ls`, `cd` if it's mounted, if it's not you'll have to mount [05:22] I think I've done this before and just used disk and entered the password and it just "popped" up in gui [05:25] Says its unlocked on Disks [05:26] /dev/sda3 [05:26] Where do I find it? [05:29] ok so I see, the mountpoint with lsblk [05:29] but not on sda3 [05:30] what do you use to do it you said rk4 to unlock and unmount a luks encrypted part? [05:30] and mount* [05:36] normally for me it's something like cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdaN unencrypted; mkdir -p /mnt/unencrypted; mount /dev/mapper/unencrypted /mnt/unencrypted; cd /mnt/unencrypted; ls, approximately [06:07] fk4 thank you for your help [06:18] i guess it worked[?] [06:43] I noticed that there is no firefox process right now in my ubuntu even though firefox is running. Instead its geckomain. When did this happen? google returns very few results on geckomain [06:44] is it like that for everybody (Geckomain and not firefox)? [06:45] Which ubuntu version, and are you using .deb or .snap firefox? [06:45] For me (deb/22.04), no, it's not [06:45] alkisg 61796 4.4 5.1 5270192 833452 ? Sl Οκτ23 249:21 | _ /usr/lib/firefox/firefox [06:47] *20.04, sorry [06:50] alkisg, 18.04 using deb [06:50] bunsen: and the output of `ps faux | grep firefox` is nothing? [06:52] alkisg, it returns a bunch of lines. not sure what it is. i just ps -A | grep firefox which returned nothing [06:53] These bunch of lines are the firefox processes [06:54] You can check their pid vs the `ps -A` pid, to see how the same processes show up in ps -A [06:55] E.g. /usr/lib/firefox/firefox -contentproc.... shows up in `ps -A` as `file:// Content` [06:58] alkisg, seems like the root process i GeckoMain not firefox (also in gnome system monitor) [06:59] lemme restart firefox. maybe it crashed [07:00] nope. the command is firefox but the processname is GeckoMain. [07:01] i was asking because i was mainly curious and suspicious. used to be a firefox process but now its called GeckoMain? And google doesnt return much either [07:07] bunsen, don't google "geckomain", try "gecko mozilla" or "gecko engine". How "GeckoMain" got to be the $0 of some Firefox process I dunno but any Mozilla program is too complicated for me [07:09] rfm i know that firefox uses the gecko engine. i dont know when the process name changed from 'firefox' to 'GeckoMain'. It gave me system32.exe flashbacks thats why i was investigating [07:14] bunsen: I don't know what `ps -A` shows, but `cat /proc/61796/cmdline` still gives /usr/lib/firefox/firefox for me [07:16] It's going to depend on exactly which firefox version he has, it's just somewhere there's an exec* call with args[0] "GeckoMain" for some name reason. [07:16] quazimodo, VMGuy23-: no, snaps don't run in Multipass VMs, they may be _built_ in one, though [07:17] alkisg, i think that is the command. for me the command is still firefox. The process name is GeckoMain. Like if i run top there is GeckoMain instead of firefox. That was not how i remembered it being before. [07:17] rfm: `ps -A` shows GeckoMain here too, but I can't find GeckoMain anywhere in /proc/pid/* [07:17] I'm not sure what it maps to [07:18] quazimodo: as for "why Multipass?" qemu/kvm is used under the hood, but you can't compare `multipass launch` with the steps you need to do to download / prepare / run an image. Multipass is also cross platform [07:18] quazimodo: see https://multipass.run/ for more info [07:19] alkisg, in gnome-system-monitor the process detail shows commandline as firefox [07:19] for geckoMain [07:19] *GeckoMain [07:19] alkisg, it's just whatever was in arg[0] when the exec call was done, I think. [07:20] OK found it, /proc/pid/comm [07:20] And indeed in 12.04 it's firefox [07:20] So at some point it did change [07:22] alkisg, does ps -A|grep firefox return anything for you? [07:23] bunsen: no [07:24] alkisg, in latest 20.04? So its not just me. I guess it is a change then not some virus lol thats a relief [07:25] bunsen: yeah [07:25] thanks for your time === klausfiend1 is now known as klausfiend [10:24] Saviq: so in fact multipass is an orchestration layer around qemu/kvm [10:25] quazimodo: correct, and around other hypervisors appropriate for a given platform [10:25] perhaps ~ sort of akin to docker engine & dockerd ? [10:25] right [10:25] i _wish_ it's website just said that my god [10:25] i was thinking that it's some sort of nightmare [10:26] and then... why on earth is it called multipass? [10:26] the name implies some sort of semantic 'thing' like multiverse [10:26] confused the heeck out of me [10:28] quazimodo: qemu/kvm is quite a technical detail, most people that go to the website will have no idea what that is and get confused even more [10:28] especially if they're on Windows / macOS [10:29] As for the name, it's a pun on The Fifth Element movie, no real semantic meaning [10:29] !discuss [10:29] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [10:30] Saviq: lol is that what it's from [10:31] i didn't catch it [10:31] corben dalas multipass [10:31] you seem authoritative, are you on the multipass project? [10:31] Yes, come along to #multipass if you're interested :) [10:32] also yeah I've run qemu/kvm macos on 20.04 laptop [10:32] it's not trivial is it === pah is now known as pa [11:09] so I see that snapcraft can run on macos [11:10] does that mean that .snap files can run on macos, or that snapcraft can build a .snap on a macos machine via multipass [11:10] ? === Rhvs is now known as Rhys === Rhys is now known as 074AAB04Z [11:35] Which of these packages http://ix.io/3D3x is the actual kernel? I want to `apt-get source` for it. === lous1F is now known as lousiF === hasdf3 is now known as hasdf === manuels2 is now known as manuels === notepad7 is now known as notepad === SmokenatorZ65 is now known as SmokenatorZ6 === toozej86 is now known as toozej8 === scjosh4 is now known as scjosh === Madatnek- is now known as Madatnek === mnepton is now known as mneptok === rvgate2 is now known as rvgate === wille1 is now known as wille === mikesmoniker_ is now known as mikesmoniker === pitninja_ is now known as pitninja === coetzeer__ is now known as coetzeer === jmcgnh_ is now known as jmcgnh [11:56] answer: linux-image-unsigned-4.4.0-148-generic === saribro is now known as swinnenb === sal9000 is now known as Guest9572 [12:17] Hey guys, can I ask for help here or do I need to join a sub-channel? [12:34] Anyone have any idea why I have globally terrible performance in proton w/ steam? I've tried tons of different Nvidia Drivers--I have dual graphics w/ a GTX 1050 and intel igpu, but I'm in NVIDIA Prime mode w/ Nvidia-SMI output reading that it is processing games:( I had the same issue in Pop and Ubuntu w/ 21.04. Weird thing is that sometimes the games run perfectly fine if they aren't in fullscreen? I've tried [12:34] lots of stuff I can list below if it helps. DXVK Full output shows like 100% GPU usage regardless of settings so something weird is definitely going on [12:42] milesthewizard, runs fine when not in fullscreen? sounds puzzling. I dont know much but i have faced the opposite issue. Had to make sure compositing was off. [12:43] Some games run fine when in windowed/Borderless, on some drivers. Really weird. [12:44] I have heard people have that issue on windows. it seems not uncommon. [12:44] Even games w/ native proton support are running badly. Thought maybe could be a WM issue will make sure I've toggled compositing [12:45] milesthewizard, only proton games ? no issue with native? [12:46] Tbf, I have tried the new satisfactory beta which has native vulkan support and had same issue [12:47] Not an expert dont know if its a deadend but may want to look into if window manager compositing is an issue. Compositing should be off when you are in fullscreen. If you can switch instantly between desktop and game (instead of 'glitching' to black for a second) that usually means compositing is ON [12:48] Oh really? Yeah that transition is seamless. [12:48] it could also mean that your pc is fast :D [12:50] lol if only that was reflected in the gaming performance :'( [12:50] but when i tried games , i could get a sense of how fast it would take to tab in and out of a game. [12:51] so for example. csgo. if compositing is off alt+tabbing in and out of the game would take a second or so. but if it is ON it would be instant (but fps would be low) [12:52] i am not sure if this will work but it is quick to try out anway. [12:54] 1. sudo apt install icewm 2. logout and login to icewm session (in ubuntu clicking the cog should reveal wm options) 3. launch steam and try a game (dont open chrome though because icewm doesnt launch gnome-keyring and your cookies will get deleted) [12:55] milesthewizard, i dont know if it will work but icewm is supposed to be a tiny non-compositing wm. [12:58] I'll reinstall 470 driver and then toggle compositing and let you know what happens! [12:58] Do I need to do via terminal or is there place in gui? idk if you remember [12:59] milesthewizard, yeah again i am not a expert. just an idea. may want to find someone more knowledgeable . [12:59] is it plain vanilla ubuntu (GNOME)? [12:59] also, are you running on X or wayland? [13:00] Yeah it's plain vanilla [13:00] X I didn't think Nvidia played nice w/ wayland [13:00] why are you reinstalling the driver? which driver is it now? [13:00] did you try with wayland? [13:01] i'm a sad panda [13:02] i thought snapcraft is installable on osx, therefore .snaps /could/ be built to work there [13:02] boy was I wrong [13:02] and now i'm a sad panda [13:02] have you tried eating a bamboo stick [13:03]