[11:39] <daw> Hello
[11:49] <penguin42> hey
[12:22] <daftykins> aww penguin42 you scared them off!
[12:58] <penguin42> hmm
[15:27] <m0nkey_> lol, so this usb-c dock does not like my monitor over display port. using it this morning the screen goes blank under load.  switched to hdmi and it's fine. time to report a bug to IT.
[15:28] <zxmpi_> seems wrong that usb-c cannot handle hdmi. wasn't that part of the whole point?
[15:30] <m0nkey_> it's weird that it has issue driving it over DP, I even dropped the refresh to 60hz and it still blanked on me. since going over to hdmi, running at 100hz without issue.
[15:30] <m0nkey_> I tried changing the DP cable too
[15:30] <daftykins> when i set up the Lenovo dock for a client, they all have firmware updates that need applying - could well be worth giving that a whirl
[15:31] <m0nkey_> today is just a day of IT errors.. can't get my server in the DC to talk to the network and now this lol
[15:31] <daftykins> :)
[15:31] <daftykins> i just got called up by a client who didn't know how to log out of his secretary's account and into his own
[15:32]  * m0nkey_ facepalms
[15:32] <m0nkey_> seems you have greater challenges than I
[15:34] <daftykins> hehe, sometimes
[15:34] <daftykins> thankfully less frequent perhaps
[15:35] <daftykins> but yeah, you should be able to track down the firmware updater for the dock if it's one of the thunderbolt models i'm thinking of (big rectangular box)
[15:41] <m0nkey_> nah, it's a usb-c dock.. laptop doesn't have thundebolt
[15:41] <daftykins> ah yeah being an earlier AMD model
[16:20] <rbasak> If it's not Thunderbolt over USB-C, is it actually DisplayLink and not DisplayPort? Because that requires CPU.
[16:22] <daftykins> i hadn't heard that name before, but it'd likely just be DisplayPort Alt Mode
[16:23] <daftykins> no idea how mobile AMD chips would achieve that
[16:32] <m0nkey_> Whatever it is.. it doesn't like my monitor. Since switching it to HDMI I've not had a problem.
[16:33] <daftykins> very odd since it's an inferior connector type
[17:28] <zxmpi_> it's been all down hill since they started phasing out vga :-D
[17:32] <daftykins> nooo, dumping analog was great
[17:32] <zxmpi_> vinyl sales would suggest not :-P
[17:34] <daftykins> obviously i was only referring to display connections, but i think anyone preferring vinyl does so for the ritual of the experience and not necessarily any belief in genuinely detecting a difference aside from using different equipment they invested more in, perhaps
[17:34] <daftykins> the idea that you have to clean the things to keep them tip-top shocked me xD
[17:34] <zxmpi_> yeah there is a ritual component to the enjoyment of vinyl alright. odd that cassette might go same way
[17:35] <zxmpi_> though i did enjoy the hackaday project to save data to tape :-D
[17:36] <zxmpi_> i finally bought a hdmi monitor and the one hdmi cable gave me so much grief i went back to vga cable (it has both sockets) and stuck with it 
[17:37] <daftykins> what was it doing? was this combined with that ailing ThinkPad you mentioned?
[17:38] <zxmpi_> me, nah, just a cheap hdmi cable i reckon. but have never had a single vga cable fail. even bent pins could be fixed with care
[17:39] <daftykins> more of a sign of the times as to how much trash is out there perhaps
[17:39] <zxmpi_> very much so
[17:39] <daftykins> i was discussing a client's TV plans with him and his electrician and carpenter the other day, had to mention how it's worth getting the right cables 'cause they're not all born equal
[17:40] <zxmpi_> you could abseil out a building with a dozen nokia chargers tied together. you wouldn't try that with a half dozen apple charging cables :-D
[17:40] <daftykins> sparky said "i've never had a problem" so i had to stress that yes it happens :D when i moved to 4K kit all my existing ones couldn't handle it
[17:40] <daftykins> well those are designed to fail to give them more profit!
[17:41] <daftykins> interesting that MS just knocked them to the second spot in most valuable company
[17:42] <zxmpi_> all those corporations jonesing on office365 subscriptions will do that
[17:45] <penguin42> daftykins: Yeh when I got a 4k monitor I had a problem where it would occasionally blank on some images; especially G.maps satellite view for some reason
[17:45] <penguin42> daftykins: I found out how to read the BER counters on the monitor
[17:54] <daftykins> neat :)
[17:54] <daftykins> probably higher throughput utilised with the satellite imagery than standard desktop use with blocks of the same colour?
[18:21] <penguin42> yeh maybe
[23:30] <zxmpi_> wonder if it comes with a tree detector as standard :-P https://www.breakingnews.ie/lifestyle/hoverbike-goes-on-sale-for-e600000-as-startup-tries-to-lure-supercar-owners-1205709.html
[23:34]  * penguin42 hopes it doesn't lose any fan blades