| Scary_Guy | Yeah, the problem is the media on each side is generally full of horsecrap. I think more people trust Wiki. So while it may be easier it's certainly not as effective. | 15:33 |
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| Scary_Guy | Well, at leas FOX/CNN/HLN. MSNBC is pretty credible as far as I can tell, but they also tend to lean hard left which turns off people on the right. | 15:35 |
| Scary_Guy | That's the other problem is we create our own walled gardens/echo chambers over time tuning out media we hate. | 15:35 |
| Scary_Guy | Wiki is pretty nonpartisan (though I guess not enough for some which is why Conservapedia and Rationalwiki exist.) | 15:36 |
| greg-g | conservapedia and rationalwiki are decidedly not non-partisan :) Wikipedia is many times more nonpartisan than they are. Conservapedia is explicitly partisan. | 16:49 |
| greg-g | I can't find the link right now, but there is at least one study, I think corroborated, that shows that the more contentious the issue (think: abortion, etc) the higher quality the Wikipedia article is about that topic. The beauty is the Talk: page where editors engage in discussion/debate about what should be added and how it should be phrased. It's not "fun" work but the outcome is higher | 16:51 |
| greg-g | quality than any single person's take on it. All stemming from our NPOV (Neutral Point of View) policy. | 16:51 |
| * greg-g stops being a shill :P | 16:51 | |
| jrwren | thank you for your service | 17:11 |
| greg-g | I just help the developers write the software, the real magic is the editor community. Software is just software. | 17:18 |
| jrwren | you work for a non-profit. that is service ;) | 18:31 |
| greg-g | some days it's harder than others :) | 18:49 |
| greg-g | (the hard days are when I read FIRE subreddits and cry when I see DINKs living in the bay area asking "do you think we're saving enough?" when they're saving/investing $150k/yr) | 19:07 |
| cmaloney | Ye gads | 19:26 |
| greg-g | some folks have no perspective :) | 19:28 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: btw, thank you, going through your recent bandcamp purchases provided me with some great getting shit done music today | 19:34 |
| cmaloney | Thank you. :) | 19:35 |
| * cmaloney goes to see what I purchased. :) | 19:35 | |
| cmaloney | I don't have a problem. | 19:35 |
| cmaloney | Finding that Ozric Tentacles was on Bandcamp was fucking amazing. | 19:36 |
| cmaloney | And yeah, I've been on a Detroit music kick lately | 19:36 |
| jrwren | greg-g: try r/fatfire and read about the FAANG employees | 20:11 |
| jrwren | I love bandcamp. It is my favorite store. | 20:11 |
| jrwren | https://ozrictentaclesmagnacarta.bandcamp.com this? | 20:11 |
| cmaloney | https://kscopemusic.bandcamp.com/album/vitamin-enhanced-2021-ed-wynne-remaster has more of the non-Magna Carta albums | 20:14 |
| cmaloney | but yes, that's part of their discography | 20:14 |
| cmaloney | https://kscopemusic.bandcamp.com/album/space-for-the-earth-the-tour-that-didnt-happen-edition <- latest album | 20:14 |
| cmaloney | https://bandcamp.com/craigmaloney | 20:15 |
| greg-g | jrwren: no thanks :) | 20:57 |
| cmaloney | "Single 48 y.o. FIREing next year. What do other american FIREs do for healthcare (other than leave the country)? All my options suck AND they're expensive" | 21:10 |
| cmaloney | Pardon me while I point to the Affordable Care Act and say "fix it" | 21:11 |
| greg-g | :) | 21:14 |
| greg-g | ^ hence the popularity of "baristaFIRE", where you work somewhere like Starbucks, that gives you healthcare at some part-time level hours. | 21:14 |
| cmaloney | There's only so many of those jobs available | 21:15 |
| jrwren | no shit... and if you can't pay teh $1200/mo to buy health care, then maybe you aren't ready to FIRE? | 21:30 |
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