[17:05] <tomreyn> fwiw i just tried to install xubuntu 21.10 on a virtualbox VM with the minimum system requirements listed at https://xubuntu.org/requirements/ - namely 512 MB RAM. Got an instant kernel panic.
[17:05] <tomreyn> initramfs unpacking failed: write error
[17:06] <Montresor> Yeah, need 700 some, don't remember specifically, since the initramfs is huge and requires more space, this is due to the microcodes.
[17:06] <tomreyn> if i find out what's the minimum value that will let me install without things failing too much, would you update the website?
[17:07] <Montresor> Not sure I can, but ensure the graphics don't take some of the ram too during tests.
[17:07] <tomreyn> they are separate, and VRAM isset to 20 MB
[17:08] <Montresor> IIRC 712 wasn't enough but 756 was fine.
[17:08] <tomreyn> but realistically they actually would decrease overall ram if those would be igpu systems
[17:08] <tomreyn> and most users are not aware
[17:09] <Montresor> But to list on the site, I'd just say 1G really.  I do test Xubuntu Core on Qemu with less, but...
[17:09] <tomreyn> yes 712 also panics
[17:11] <tomreyn> 800 MB gets me to the first installer screen (background image loads, nothing else), then a black screen.
[17:12] <Montresor> Yeah, Xubuntu Desktop has the slideshow which IIRC uses webkit, Core doesn't.  I guess that wouldn't help (though you didn't even get to that point, soo.)
[17:15] <tomreyn> so you're saying 800 MB minimum + VRAM for Xubuntu Core 21.10 amd64, and 1024 MB minimum + VRAM for Xbuntu 21.10 amd64, right?
[17:16] <Montresor> I'd just make it 1024 across.
[17:18] <tomreyn> okay, with 1024 MB i got the first proper installer screen
[17:33] <tomreyn> and the installation succeeded with default options (other than german keyboard layout), too. though during boot, it seems to be stuck on the logo screen.
[17:34] <tomreyn> oh that's actually during shutdown of the installer, not reboot, yet
[17:35] <tomreyn> https://i.imgur.com/lPgb5NP.png
[17:35] <tomreyn> it's stuck there, i've been waiting for 2 minutes.
[17:36] <tomreyn> but this could be due to virtualization
[17:45] <tomreyn> i sent an acpi signal, without notable effect, then pressed ctrl-c, and got repeating squashfs errors for reads on a single block. no visual response to ctrl-alt-del then, so i rebooted. desktop comes up fine and quickly. with just the terminal open, free -h reports: https://i.imgur.com/2sn9rbf.png
[17:45] <tomreyn> so whom should I annoy to update the website?
[18:22] <tomreyn> i retried with uefi, otherwise same settings + specs. this also works out, but the installer also fails to reboot properly.
[18:23] <tomreyn> identical error message after ctrl-c
[18:23] <tomreyn> https://i.imgur.com/iDU2xGw.png
[18:25] <tomreyn> 30 MB more available than with BIOS boot, swap also untouched.
[18:25] <tomreyn> so, as a general sattement, 1 GB RAM + VRAM it is, I'd say, too.