[00:03] <tomreyn> Ecto1: did you say which kubuntu version, kernel version you are running?
[00:04] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds & cat /proc/version
[00:05] <tomreyn> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=266358&p=5 suggests that you may need a newer linux-firmware for amdgpu
[00:06] <Ecto1> [1] 4228
[00:06] <Ecto1> Linux version 5.11.0-38-generic (buildd@lcy01-amd64-016) (gcc (Ubuntu 10.3.0-1ubuntu1) 10.3.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.36.1) #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 24 14:03:54 UTC 2021
[00:07] <tomreyn> sorry, i omitted one &
[00:07] <tomreyn> type    fg
[00:08] <tomreyn> ...bringing the backgrounded    lsb_release -ds    process to the front again
[00:08] <tomreyn> paused, not backgrounded
[00:09] <Ecto1> ?
[00:11] <Ecto1> Ill just give you this instead?: https://pastebin.com/1nfYKRc3
[00:12] <tomreyn> Ecto1: and i suggest you do a release upgrade
[00:13] <Ecto1> Will try
[00:15] <tomreyn> you're on kubuntu 21.04, should upgrade to kubuntu 21.10, this will give you newer amdgpu firmware for your RAVEN generation graphics chipset
[00:16] <tomreyn> if this won't fix it yet, you'll need to manually upgrade the raven* firmware in /lib/firmware from https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/amdgpu
[00:17] <Ecto1> How should I go about updating the firmware?
[00:18] <tomreyn> do the ubuntu upgrade first. your current ubuntu release only has another ~3 months of support anyways, and there's a good chance that just upgrading kubuntu to the latest will already fix it
[00:18] <tomreyn> *kubuntu upgrade
[00:19] <tomreyn> you can run    update-manager -c    in a terminal to trigger it. always have backups before you do a release upgrade. and ideally remove third party software (version) before starting it.
[00:22] <Ecto1> Alright thanks. Will join again if issues come back
[02:59] <webchat61> hello excuse me, but where do I find the Testing Kubuntu .iso? Like the Snapshot Jammy https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ daily builds?
[03:21] <valorie> hmmm, they post the link where it can be found, then ask where it can be found? Color me confused
[03:37] <alkisg> They pasted the ubuntu link and asked for the Kubuntu link
[05:26] <keithzg> They were so close! The "Parent Directory" link on the linked-to page then goes to https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/, and up another level gets you to https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/, where one of the folders is https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[09:00] <user|5> How can i update my lts version of kubuntu to current version 21.10?
[09:25] <jiggawatt> user|5: 21.10 isn't LTS though
[09:27] <jiggawatt> user|5: you can edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set prompt=normal
[09:27] <jiggawatt> then you can upgrade to non-LTS releases
[09:28] <user|5> Ok. Thanks.
[09:29] <jiggawatt> you're welcome
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[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:14] <jiggawatt> yo BluesKaj
[13:14] <jiggawatt> w00000
[13:15] <BluesKaj> hey jiggawatt
[13:33] <IrcsomeBot> <Halis> Hi all 👋
[13:36] <BluesKaj> @Halis, hi
[13:38] <jiggawatt> HEY HALIS
[13:38] <jiggawatt> HOW R U
[13:38] <jiggawatt> where does IrcsomeBot relay from
[13:38] <jiggawatt> matrix?
[13:38] <jiggawatt> freenode?
[13:38] <jiggawatt> irc.mozilla.org ?
[13:39] <RikMills> jiggawatt: telegram group
[13:39] <jiggawatt> Telgram ??!?!??!
[13:39] <jiggawatt> da fuq
[13:39] <jiggawatt> do you guys realize that Telegram groups are not encrypted p2p ?
[13:40] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> yep
[13:40] <jiggawatt> or e2d ?
[13:40] <jiggawatt> sjklfa
[13:40] <jiggawatt> e2e I mean
[13:40] <jiggawatt> Putin controls Durov, btw
[13:40] <jiggawatt> Durov just says otherwise to make all the Russians sign up
[13:40] <jiggawatt> so FSB can see everything that Russians are chatting about
[13:40] <Dragnslcr> It's a public channel that has logs posted on the web. Encryption isn't exactly a high priority.
[13:40] <jiggawatt> True
[13:41] <jiggawatt> Telegram has really good APIs for integrating monitoring systems, etc
[13:41] <jiggawatt> There is a reason for that.... *couch* state-sponsored hacking *cough*
[13:42] <BluesKaj> what's the advantage if any ofusing telegram rather than a proper irc client , something to do with devices?
[13:43] <jiggawatt> well IRC on mobiles usually suck without some service like IRCCloud
[13:43] <jiggawatt> I haven't tested thelounge's mobile clients yet
[13:44] <jiggawatt> Telegram obviously works much better
[13:44] <jiggawatt> it's a mobile-first app
[13:44] <BluesKaj> irc on mobiles is clunky IME
[13:44] <jiggawatt> ya
[13:45] <BluesKaj> so these telegram users aren't using real computers :-)
[13:50] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> BluesKaj: I am
[14:04] <IrcsomeBot> <Halis> There is a very mature desktop client for Telegram
[14:06] <IrcsomeBot> <Halis> İ do not believe that, but everyone is free to believe. There is no indication, which İ am aware of, that suggests any connection to the FSB (re @IrcsomeBot: <jiggawatt> so FSB can see everything that Russians are chatting about)
[14:08] <IrcsomeBot> <Halis> And a public İRC group is end to end encrypted? Was İRC not unencrypted? İ do not know, but it really does not matter in a public group. Everyone can see the messages anyway 😅 (re @IrcsomeBot: <jiggawatt> do you guys realize that Telegram groups are not encrypted p2p ?)
[14:11] <IrcsomeBot> <Halis> (Yes, wikipedia says İRC is not e2e encryped either:
[14:11] <IrcsomeBot> <Halis> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat#Attacks  )
[14:13] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> OK. This is a support group. Please lets now keep on topic for that. Thanks
[14:13] <IrcsomeBot> <Halis> Sorry, İ forgot 🙈
[14:17] <Fatal_Sushi> probably the downside of you not having a kubuntu offtopic channel over at Telegram
[14:17] <Fatal_Sushi> hence it get's messy here in the IRC support channel too
[14:18] <Fatal_Sushi> one of the reasons i am against the bridges between IRC and telegram
[14:36] <RikMills> Fatal_Sushi: we do have an offtopic TG channel
[14:44] <IrcsomeBot> <Halis> İ can not find @kubuntu_offtopic channel 🤔
[14:46] <jiggawatt> Halis, are you familiar with Pavel Durov?
[14:46] <jiggawatt> It's very suspicious that he chose Telegram not to use e2e encryption by default
[14:46] <jiggawatt> And we don't know where the Telegram servers are located either
[14:46] <jiggawatt> And there are virtually no known Telegram employees
[14:46] <jiggawatt> (other than Durov)
[14:47] <IrcsomeBot> <Halis> We should not discuss this here after we got told to not do so
[14:47] <jiggawatt> It's a very suspicious organization that reeks of Sovietism
[14:47] <jiggawatt> nah it's on-topic
[14:47] <jiggawatt> there is no real offtopic TG channel
[14:47] <jiggawatt> oh maybe there is according to RikMills
[14:49] <IrcsomeBot> <Halis> İ can not find @kubuntu_offtopic group 🤔
[15:11] <Fatal_Sushi> jiggawatt: it's not ontopic, if it was ontopic you were talking about Kubuntu support
[15:12] <Fatal_Sushi> not telegram stuff
[15:13] <Fatal_Sushi> RikMills: is the offtopic group on telegram open for everyone? last time it wasn't iirc and not even bridged to the #kubuntu-offtopic irc channel
[15:15] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Oh, yeah. It was set invite only when our podcast stopped as it was originally the channel for that
[15:15] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Sorry for confusion
[15:42] <jiggawatt> well Telegram has problems and Kubuntu users' data is being pilfered by it
[15:43] <jiggawatt> but I'll leave it at that
[17:00] <IrcsomeBot> <pivi_man> hello, how I can add new page to KHelpCenter?
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