[20:25] I meant it's not partisan enough for some, sorry brain fart [20:27] Non profits isn't a service, as many still do make a profit and game the system. However there are some that actually don't and I believe Wiki to be one of them. [20:38] Scary_Guy: oh, don't worry, there are plenty of people who think Wikimedia Foundation is a "cancer" and we spend too much money on ourselves (hiring staff). I will confirm that our pay is less than what you'd get at a for profit in engineering. [20:42] Well there are plenty of people who are idots as well.