[02:41] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[04:56] <marcoagpinto> Hello!
[09:02] <lordievader> Good morning
[14:14] <hggdh> good morning all
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> hey hggdh o/ wb
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> everything under control hggdh 
[14:15] <hggdh> all good, still in good health :-)
[14:16] <hggdh> and it is finally getting colder here. OTOH, it is also raining :-(
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> not a summer person hggdh ?
[14:17] <TJ-> Anyone seen reports of problems generally with Firefox 93 and uploads of (JPG) photos to ebay (in my case for opening a returns issue) resulting in totally corrupted images being shown? Not sure how better to describe it! Tried Safe Mode, clearing cache, etc., and thinking now there's something broken in the HTTP POST in the background.
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> hmm dont think ive heared that1 yet TJ- 
[14:18] <hggdh> lotuspsychje: no, not a summer person, at least not for summers in the US south
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> i see
[14:19] <hggdh> TJ-: did you try to upload the photo elsewhere to check?
[14:19] <TJ-> trying to figure out how to debug it. I put the same file on my server and it looks OK
[14:20] <TJ-> I processed it with GIMP in case there was something weird in the original, coding wise, too. No difference. PC has been restarted a few times since the original upload and still does the same thing.
[14:20] <hggdh> does Chrome/Chromium/Edge work?
[14:21] <hggdh> (yes, Edge is now GA on Linux)
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> how does that pic corrupt exactly TJ- 
[14:22] <TJ-> I'm uploading screenshots now, give me a mo
[14:24] <TJ-> see https://iam.tj/ebay_photo/
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> wow
[14:26] <TJ-> I've added another showing it when it's full size
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: https://githubmemory.com/repo/nodeca/image-blob-reduce/issues/28
[14:28] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: wow! nice find!
[14:28] <TJ-> Trying that now!
[14:30] <TJ-> That was it! had to disable Privacy > Fingerprinting globally and then enable it in the address bar for ebay
[14:30] <TJ-> Thanks! I've wasted most of the morning on this
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> how come that fingerprint scrambles up pics?
[14:33] <TJ-> apparently it is something to do with access to the Canvas element, but I don't see how that should affect a file upload selection - maybe the javascript first puts the image in a local off-screen canvas element to send it 
[14:33] <TJ-> I'm glad I asked here now - didn't think this would be an easy-to-find solution
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> i got lucky finding the same distortion pic
[14:34] <TJ-> all for a couple of USB-C female > USB 3.0 A male that are actually USB 2.0 male - someone is doing a good business with fakes there - when you you ever want to have USB-C to USB 2.0 !
[14:34] <hggdh> well, this is not quite an easy-to-find thing... fortunately lotuspsychje decided to search based on the pic
[14:35] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: yeah, I never thought to try a TinEye search
[14:35] <TJ-> I've just installed Kubuntu 21.10 so was thinking it was something in that
[14:36] <hggdh> oh yes, gotta try k on 21.10, perhaps I will go back to it and off Gnome
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> yeah the distortion looks like something amd cards would do
[14:37] <TJ-> I'm very impressed with KDE - lets me configure everything I could want to
[14:37] <TJ-> I wasn't sure if the photo had uploaded fine but FF was rendering my end incorrectly :)
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> : )
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: in return you can give me a few ideas about my wayland screen glitches on 22.04 :p bug #1948778
[14:48] <ubottu> Bug 1948778 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[Notebook N7x0WU] Random black flickers in gnome-shell Wayland sessions" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1948778
[14:50] <TJ-> I've not used a wayland compositor so far
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> kk
[14:53] <TJ-> Daniel's comment about the compositor failing to set a frame buffer sounds most plausible
[14:55] <TJ-> 1st thing I'd do is read the kernel boot-up log in case there are initial problems configuring hardware that lead to this later
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx TJ- 
[17:04] <kramer> I have been using Ubuntu (and Debian) for many years, have always used Gnome desktop -- I am thinking of looking at a KDE distro, Kubuntu seems to shine well, but I can't get over the "omg it's not real Ubuntu" setback in my head.  Any input?
[17:10] <daftykins> what exactly do you mean by 'not real' ? what constitutes a real distro to you?
[17:20] <TJ-> kramer: give it a go! You'll be rewarded
[17:20] <TJ-> Ubuntu is not just Ubuntu Desktop (Gnome) 
[17:25] <kramer> daftykins: mostly concerned with compatibility with GTK/windowing, etc.
[17:27] <daftykins> sounds like you have some testing to do
[17:29] <kramer> More or less :)
[17:31] <daftykins> i was surprised when i gave Kubuntu a go, the preinstalled software set has everything to do the kind of work i do and things mostly work
[17:35] <kramer> My 'Swiss army' Ubuntu install that does everything I need for work includes LibreOffice, Dia, Gimp, Xournal -- looks like everything should work well enough.
[17:35] <TJ-> i'm finding 21.10 very reactive and snappy ... without snap installed :)
[17:35] <kramer> Or, there is nothing wrong with Ubuntu either 🤷
[17:35] <TJ-> (Kubuntu that is)
[17:36] <kramer> I'm not sure if I want to grab 20.04 or just wait until next year; anymore these decisions take so long, 22.04 might be out before I get around to actually migrating