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bryceh | LocutusOfBorg, sorry Utkarsh and I were both out sick today. The 'Unable to load dynamic library '<whatever>' is occuring among a lot of the php packages right now due to the transition still under way. I don't think the error is actually due to php-apcu*, but rather a larger issue with autoloading that Utkarsh and I have been actively investigating. | 01:16 |
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bryceh | LocutusOfBorg, I'm keeping notes on current status of things (and next actions for some packages) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Transition/Php8.1 | 01:18 |
LocutusOfBorg | thanks bryceh I'm happy it wasn't my fault | 08:12 |
LocutusOfBorg | I guess no need to do anything and situation will auto fix then :D | 08:12 |
icey | I'm taking a look at the pythonmagick build failures this morning | 09:18 |
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ginggs | icey: great, feel free to ping if you need a sponsor | 09:39 |
icey | thanks ginggs | 09:40 |
icey | ginggs: I just built it fine locally with a jammy pbuilder, could you just poke a retry on it please? | 10:33 |
ginggs | icey: given back | 10:42 |
ginggs | icey: no luck :( | 10:51 |
icey | ginggs: frustrating | 10:51 |
icey | thanks! | 10:51 |
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ginggs | icey: https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-autoconf/2021-10/msg00000.html | 11:01 |
icey | ginggs: that'd do it :-/ | 11:05 |
icey | ginggs: I get the feeling that this is going to end up hitting us a lot :-/ | 11:08 |
ginggs | icey: https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=AX_PYTHON_DEVEL&literal=1&perpkg=1 | 11:11 |
ginggs | icey: i'll file a bug against autoconf-archive in debian | 11:12 |
icey | ginggs: how do we handle things like python 3.10 being incompatible with things right now (took a peek at one I can upload, saw that it's failing on 3.10 because of referring to a `collections.abc.$THING` indirectly, which is deprecated in 3.9 and gone in 3.10 | 13:15 |
icey | so there's upstream work to get them updated, but how do we handle that blocking the 3.10 migration? | 13:15 |
icey | ginggs: in essence: `cannot import name 'Mapping' from 'collections' `; the correct update is `import collections.abc.Mapping` (in this case) but seems to hit a lot of packages | 13:30 |
icey | although I'm seeing some common bits hitting unittest2 | 13:31 |
ginggs | icey: adding python3.10 is a non-blocking transition; python3.10 is already in -release, so things can migrate as soon as they're ready. for things requiring upstream work, we'll file bugs against the packages in debian. i believe doko is already looking at that | 13:40 |
icey | ginggs: I was wondering when looking at that python3-defaults autopkgtest failure list | 13:41 |
ginggs | icey: many of those should pass on retry soon, e.g. when assimp and cvxopt migrate | 13:56 |
mfo | juliank, hi o/ sorry to bother. when you have a chance, may i ask you to review this grub2 mr in bug 1840560 ? it's not high priority, fyi. but just wanted to check if this is still on your radar, or would it better fit someone else at this moment? thanks! :) | 13:57 |
ubottu | Bug 1840560 in grub2 (Ubuntu Jammy) "'error: can't find command hwmatch' during grub" [Low, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1840560 | 13:57 |
icey | ginggs: except for the unes using unittest2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unittest2/+bug/1949778 ;-) | 13:57 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1949778 in unittest2 (Ubuntu) "unittest2 doesn't work on python3.10" [Undecided, New] | 13:57 |
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Odd_Bloke | rbasak: o/ If I've `git ubuntu clone`d a package, and I want to pull everything new from the LP repo, what command(s) would I run? | 14:32 |
rbasak | Odd_Bloke: git fetch pkg | 14:35 |
Odd_Bloke | rbasak: Thanks! | 14:55 |
juliank | mfo: I'll try to have a look at it tomorrow | 17:15 |
mfo | juliank, cool, thanks! | 17:15 |
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bdmurray | sergiodj: Did this end up getting merged? I don't see it in impish https://sourceware.org/git/?p=binutils-gdb.git;a=commit;h=2bf3b79d05bf85e41cbdcb020bd1cc424f59dd9a | 22:42 |
sergiodj | bdmurray: upstream, you mean? yeah, it was merged | 22:46 |
sergiodj | it should be part of impish because we have gdb 11.1 there | 22:47 |
bdmurray | I strangely don't see it in there | 22:48 |
sergiodj | bdmurray: http://paste.debian.net/1218273/ | 22:48 |
sergiodj | it's there | 22:48 |
sergiodj | bdmurray: are you seeing this bug manifest in Impish? | 22:50 |
bdmurray | sergiodj: ah the move to dwz.c and having a ChangeLog-2020 explains why I didn't find it | 22:50 |
sergiodj | yeah. GDB has recently dropped ChangeLogs altogether, FWIW | 22:51 |
bdmurray | ? | 22:51 |
sergiodj | sorry, just an unrelated-but-somewhat-related comment | 22:51 |
sergiodj | :) | 22:51 |
bdmurray | sure that just seems weird | 22:52 |
sergiodj | why? | 22:52 |
bdmurray | what is the alternative to a ChangeLog? | 22:52 |
sergiodj | git commit, basically | 22:52 |
bdmurray | that seems hard for downstream consumers | 22:53 |
sergiodj | yeah, it's something being discussed. the glibc folks came up with a script that goes through the commits and generates an equivalent to ChangeLogs | 22:54 |
sergiodj | but because GDB has switched to C++ we have to adjust that script, which is non-trivial to do | 22:54 |
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sergiodj | so for now people are just not writing ChangeLogs anymore | 22:54 |
sergiodj | most of the community wanted to get rid of them for quite a while (I remember seeing discussions about this almost a decade ago), and now they finally pulled the trigger | 22:55 |
sergiodj | either way, I'm sure that some input from downstream consumers would be most welcome. I don't see us going back to ChangeLogs, but maybe the automation script I mentioned could gain some momentum | 22:56 |
cjwatson | There's a thing in gnulib (thus passed around a lot of GNU and GNU-adjacent projects) that just generates a ChangeLog from git log at tarball release time | 23:04 |
cjwatson | Various projects I'm involved in have been using it for years without it occasioning much comment | 23:05 |
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