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brycehLocutusOfBorg, sorry Utkarsh and I were both out sick today.  The 'Unable to load dynamic library '<whatever>' is occuring among a lot of the php packages right now due to the transition still under way.  I don't think the error is actually due to php-apcu*, but rather a larger issue with autoloading that Utkarsh and I have been actively investigating.01:16
brycehLocutusOfBorg, I'm keeping notes on current status of things (and next actions for some packages) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Transition/Php8.101:18
LocutusOfBorgthanks bryceh I'm happy it wasn't my fault08:12
LocutusOfBorgI guess no need to do anything and situation will auto fix then :D08:12
iceyI'm taking a look at the pythonmagick build failures this morning09:18
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ginggsicey: great, feel free to ping if you need a sponsor09:39
iceythanks ginggs09:40
iceyginggs: I just built it fine locally with a jammy pbuilder, could you just poke a retry on it please?10:33
ginggsicey: given back10:42
ginggsicey: no luck :(10:51
iceyginggs: frustrating10:51
iceythanks!10:51
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ginggsicey: https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-autoconf/2021-10/msg00000.html11:01
iceyginggs: that'd do it :-/11:05
iceyginggs: I get the feeling that this is going to end up hitting us a lot :-/11:08
ginggsicey: https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=AX_PYTHON_DEVEL&literal=1&perpkg=111:11
ginggsicey: i'll file a bug against autoconf-archive in debian11:12
iceyginggs: how do we handle things like python 3.10 being incompatible with things right now (took a peek at one I can upload, saw that it's failing on 3.10 because of referring to a `collections.abc.$THING` indirectly, which is deprecated in 3.9 and gone in 3.1013:15
iceyso there's upstream work to get them updated, but how do we handle that blocking the 3.10 migration?13:15
iceyginggs: in essence: `cannot import name 'Mapping' from 'collections' `; the correct update is `import collections.abc.Mapping` (in this case) but seems to hit a lot of packages13:30
iceyalthough I'm seeing some common bits hitting unittest213:31
ginggsicey: adding python3.10 is a non-blocking transition; python3.10 is already in -release, so things can migrate as soon as they're ready.  for things requiring upstream work, we'll file bugs against the packages in debian. i believe doko is already looking at that13:40
iceyginggs: I was wondering when looking at that python3-defaults autopkgtest failure list13:41
ginggsicey: many of those should pass on retry soon, e.g. when assimp and cvxopt migrate13:56
mfojuliank, hi o/ sorry to bother. when you have a chance, may i ask you to review this grub2 mr in bug 1840560 ? it's not high priority, fyi. but just wanted to check if this is still on your radar, or would it better fit someone else at this moment?  thanks! :)13:57
ubottuBug 1840560 in grub2 (Ubuntu Jammy) "'error: can't find command hwmatch' during grub" [Low, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184056013:57
iceyginggs: except for the unes using unittest2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unittest2/+bug/1949778 ;-)13:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1949778 in unittest2 (Ubuntu) "unittest2 doesn't work on python3.10" [Undecided, New]13:57
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Odd_Blokerbasak: o/ If I've `git ubuntu clone`d a package, and I want to pull everything new from the LP repo, what command(s) would I run?14:32
rbasakOdd_Bloke: git fetch pkg14:35
Odd_Blokerbasak: Thanks!14:55
juliankmfo: I'll try to have a look at it tomorrow17:15
mfojuliank, cool, thanks!17:15
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bdmurraysergiodj: Did this end up getting merged? I don't see it in impish https://sourceware.org/git/?p=binutils-gdb.git;a=commit;h=2bf3b79d05bf85e41cbdcb020bd1cc424f59dd9a22:42
sergiodjbdmurray: upstream, you mean?  yeah, it was merged22:46
sergiodjit should be part of impish because we have gdb 11.1 there22:47
bdmurrayI strangely don't see it in there22:48
sergiodjbdmurray: http://paste.debian.net/1218273/22:48
sergiodjit's there22:48
sergiodjbdmurray: are you seeing this bug manifest in Impish?22:50
bdmurraysergiodj: ah the move to dwz.c and having a ChangeLog-2020 explains why I didn't find it22:50
sergiodjyeah.  GDB has recently dropped ChangeLogs altogether, FWIW22:51
bdmurray?22:51
sergiodjsorry, just an unrelated-but-somewhat-related comment22:51
sergiodj:)22:51
bdmurraysure that just seems weird22:52
sergiodjwhy?22:52
bdmurraywhat is the alternative to a ChangeLog?22:52
sergiodjgit commit, basically22:52
bdmurraythat seems hard for downstream consumers22:53
sergiodjyeah, it's something being discussed.  the glibc folks came up with a script that goes through the commits and generates an equivalent to ChangeLogs22:54
sergiodjbut because GDB has switched to C++ we have to adjust that script, which is non-trivial to do22:54
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sergiodjso for now people are just not writing ChangeLogs anymore22:54
sergiodjmost of the community wanted to get rid of them for quite a while (I remember seeing discussions about this almost a decade ago), and now they finally pulled the trigger22:55
sergiodjeither way, I'm sure that some input from downstream consumers would be most welcome.  I don't see us going back to ChangeLogs, but maybe the automation script I mentioned could gain some momentum22:56
cjwatsonThere's a thing in gnulib (thus passed around a lot of GNU and GNU-adjacent projects) that just generates a ChangeLog from git log at tarball release time23:04
cjwatsonVarious projects I'm involved in have been using it for years without it occasioning much comment23:05

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