[01:13] <Kilroy> every time I try to login uing lightdm I get this error
[01:14] <Kilroy> requirment "user ingroup nopasswordlogin" is not met by user Nathaniel
[01:16] <Kilroy> (nathaniel is the user I am loginging in as)
[01:16] <oerheks> Xauthority issue perhaps? ( owned by root) https://askubuntu.com/questions/994127/cant-login-ubuntu-but-can-ssh-to-it
[01:17] <Kilroy> I can't see that, using direct keyboard access until I get this fixed sorry
[01:25] <Kilroy> oerheks: could you please just tell me what it says if you have time? my laptop is with IT and this is my only connection
[01:28] <Gallomimia> Kilroy, hmmmmmm. it says..... a lot of things
[01:28] <Gallomimia> oh here we go: requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "miranda" is a dead giveaway. Either add your user to that group or remove the directive from your lightdm config.
[01:29] <Bashing-om> Kilroy: ' echo $XAUTHORITY ' ??
[01:29] <Kilroy> my config says nothing about the nopasswordloing
[01:29] <Gallomimia> the page says to chown your .Xauthority file to username:username
[01:30] <Kilroy> it is
[01:30] <Gallomimia> ^^^ from the webpage linked above
[01:31] <Kilroy> ok thank you Gallomimia
[01:31] <Kilroy> do you know the command to add a user to a group?
[01:32] <Gallomimia> well maybe type groups first and see which ones you're in?
[01:32] <Gallomimia> some hints about how this got borked might be useful. did you do any chown'ing lately?
[01:33] <Kilroy> nope
[01:33] <Gallomimia> type ls -la .Xauthority
[01:33] <Kilroy> nathanil
[01:33] <Gallomimia> and then also do what Bashing-om said
[01:33] <Kilroy> *nathaniel
[01:33] <Kilroy> is the owner
[01:33] <Gallomimia> what's the group?
[01:33] <Gallomimia> that shouldn't matter much... i think.
[01:33] <Kilroy> -rw-------------- (I think that many - I am just guessing on the end)
[01:35] <Gallomimia> it's 7
[01:35] <Kilroy> ok
[01:35] <Gallomimia> the command to add a group is usermod -Ga GROUPNAME
[01:35] <Kilroy> k
[01:35] <Kilroy> what group? nopasswordlogin?
[01:37] <Gallomimia> sounds like what all this is saying
[01:37] <Kilroy> ok
[01:39] <BinarySavior> i'm on lan trying to use SCP to transfer a file from my desktop to my raspberry pi
[01:39] <BinarySavior> do i need to open up ufw for this?
[01:40] <Gallomimia> a port should be open in the firewall yes. the ssh port
[01:41] <Kilroy> now I get some error about no such interface
[01:42] <webchat73> hello i have question can you help me ?
[01:42] <Kilroy> don't ask to ask
[01:42] <Kilroy> just ask
[01:42] <Gallomimia> 1000+ people aren't going to say "sure"
[01:43] <webchat73> ok ubuntu 20.04 in the place with powere on off volume where is the graphic card settings ?
[01:44] <Gallomimia> there's not much in the way of graphic card settings. if you have an nVidia card, there's an app for that. not sure on ATI myself. what exactly do you need to accomplish?
[01:44] <webchat73> ok
[01:45] <webchat73>  in the box that says software and updates it says no priterty drivers in use
[01:45] <Gallomimia>  and what GPU do you have?
[01:45] <webchat73> built in
[01:46] <Kilroy> what are the specs?
[01:46] <Gallomimia> this does not help figure out what brand it is.
[01:46] <webchat73> amd cpu
[01:46] <Gallomimia> so it's an APU?
[01:46] <webchat73> AMD® A8-7650k radeon r7, 10 compute cores 4c+6g × 4
[01:47] <Gallomimia> !ATI | webchat73
[01:47] <Gallomimia> i'm afraid i know nothing about that brand of GPU's
[01:47] <webchat73> so no way of chginging settings ?
[01:49] <webchat73> ok on software and updates , a box that says other software what should be checked there?
[01:50] <Gallomimia> i believe you should acquire the proprietary driver, and reboot, before attempting any changes to settings. as i said, i know nothing about them.
[01:50] <webchat73> amdgpu-pro i have seen that and ubunto wont let me install it
[01:50] <webchat73> you should acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how
[01:52] <BinarySavior> i'm having trouble ssh to my computer from my raspberry pi, i have added the id_rsa.pub to my authorized_keys file
[01:53] <BinarySavior> i allowed port 22 from my raspberrypi ip address
[01:53] <BinarySavior> i keep getting connection refused
[01:53] <webchat73> no hekp here i guess ?
[01:54] <webchat73> hello
[01:54] <webchat73> acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how
[01:54] <webchat73> acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how
[01:54] <webchat73> acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how
[01:54] <webchat73> acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how
[01:54] <webchat73> acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how
[01:54] <Gallomimia> BinarySavior, are you sure the pi is listening on ssh?
[02:01] <webchat73> https://itsfoss.com/install-additional-drivers-ubuntu/
[02:01] <webchat73> mine dont look like that at all help
[02:01] <oerheks> that ati uses open AMDGPU, and is already loaded
[02:01] <webchat73> How to Install Additional Drivers in Ubuntu
[02:02] <webchat73> why does that pic of software and updates not look like mine at all i have no option in there?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> webchat73: AMD drivers are in the kernel. Only the more rescent cards are supported by the proprietary overlay.
[02:02] <Kilroy> could be older software
[02:02] <oerheks> amdgpu = open, nvidia is closed
[02:03] <oerheks> no worries, it is already loaded, so what options would you need then?
[02:03] <webchat73> why does my software and update not look like th elink ?
[02:03] <webchat73> i dont have thoses options at all
[02:04] <webchat73> https://itsfoss.com/install-additional-drivers-ubuntu/
[02:04] <oerheks> as you have not the same situation.
[02:04] <webchat73> mine looks differnt and blank ?
[02:04] <oerheks> so, stop reading that page
[02:04] <webchat73> help plz
[02:04] <Kilroy> webchat73: you posted the same link
[02:04] <Kilroy> and that does not apply to you as oerheks said
[02:04] <oerheks> no help, it is already working
[02:04] <oerheks> lolz
[02:05] <webchat73> well how do i adjust stuff in video seting ?
[02:06] <Kilroy> what video setting?
[02:06] <webchat73> there is no control for video if i dig around i can find a setting for the 1900 by 1080 setting but that sit ?
[02:06] <Kilroy> you mean the display?
[02:06] <Gallomimia> what else might you want to set?
[02:06] <oerheks> sure in systemsettings > displays there are options
[02:07] <webchat73> like with win7 the built in graphics had feature like screen record stuff to turn upscalling on off
[02:07] <Kilroy> this is not windows7
[02:07] <oerheks> why lower screen resoloution?
[02:07] <Kilroy> not even microsoft
[02:07] <webchat73> but thre features that the vid can do i cant find in ubunto
[02:08] <webchat73> ok whre is upscale option ?
[02:08] <webchat73> whre is the option the record viseo
[02:08] <webchat73> stuff like that
[02:08] <oerheks> sure in systemsettings > displays there are scale options
[02:08] <Gallomimia> yeah the feature to record video is also not available to nvidia cards in linux. sorry.
[02:09] <webchat73> systemsettings ?
[02:09] <Kilroy> the gear icon
[02:09] <Kilroy> settings
[02:09] <oerheks> oh dear ...
[02:09] <webchat73> so ubunto crippled my computer?
[02:09] <oerheks> please remove this troll
[02:09] <webchat73> thats one other problem you have calling stuff by mulitupile names its confusing
[02:10] <webchat73> if you said setting i would be ok
[02:10] <Kilroy> settings/systemsettings are the exact same thing
[02:10] <webchat73> systemsettings and the word sytem are not the same
[02:10] <Kilroy> both on ubuntu mac windowsxp
[02:11] <Kilroy> windows 7
[02:11] <Kilroy> I could keep going
[02:11] <webchat73> like people when i go to store and ask for lighters they say what size im like walk off why ask that its what is quanity you want like afive pack
[02:11] <webchat73> im disable and you can call me troll mot cool
[02:12] <webchat73> not cool
[02:12] <webchat73> i was just chatting
[02:12] <www2> hi i have problems with upgrading libreoffice for some time: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9mNhdDTZWZ/
[02:12] <webchat73> i see the diable are not welcome here fudamentally diffreent and you attack me for asking stuff
[02:13] <webchat73> ablesist people here be care full
[02:13] <webchat73> no help either
[02:13] <Kilroy> wtf
[02:13] <Kilroy> www2: what is your issue?
[02:13] <Gallomimia> you want better support for GPU's? Talk to GPU makers. linux based OS do the best they can
[02:13] <www2> see link i have problems with some of the pagate versions are wong (see link)
[02:14] <Kilroy> Gallomimia: they left
[02:14] <Kilroy> just a troll
[02:14] <Kilroy> I can't, don't have a gui only cli
[02:14] <oerheks> www2, run sudo apt update first
[02:14] <Kilroy> don't copy and paste it
[02:15] <www2> rep the problem is for some days
[02:15] <oerheks> or even; sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[02:15] <www2> *yep
[02:15] <Kilroy> www2: oerheks has good advice I would take it
[02:17] <www2> i do the dist-upgrade but i see that some packets are not upgrade: libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
[02:18] <Kilroy> sudo apt upgrade
[02:18] <Kilroy> sudo apt upgrade -y
[02:18] <Gallomimia> did you do apt update
[02:18] <Bashing-om> www2: A PPA ? pastebin to the channel ' apt policy libreoffice '.
[02:19] <Kilroy> can someone please help me on my issue?
[02:19] <Kilroy> also? the can;t connect to divice
[02:19] <www2> bi ppa default repo (nl server
[02:19] <Kilroy> *interface
[02:20] <Gallomimia> wishin i could sir. don't quite know what has happened
[02:20] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+changelog
[02:20] <Gallomimia> did you find the Xauthority?
[02:20] <Kilroy> yes
[02:20] <oerheks> do you have proposed enabled?
[02:22] <www2> i have curren all update
[02:23] <www2> and proposed is disable
[02:27] <www2> @oerheks I have some feeling that ubuntu have forgote add some packages to the repo for this update
[02:27] <Bashing-om> !info libreoffice impish
[02:29] <www2> @Bashing-om i use 21.10
[02:30] <Bashing-om> www2: Seen so :D ..impish is 21.10 release.
[02:31] <oerheks> apt install -f, or dpkg configure
[02:32] <www2> nop
[02:34] <www2> @Bashing-om i was some what confuse with 21.04 (hirsute)
[02:37] <www2> btw i missing the update for libreoffice-java-common and libreoffice-core (current are on v7.2.1 and not v7.2.2
[02:41] <www2> @Bashing-om what do you think?
[02:45] <Bashing-om> www2: Were me: run ' sudo apt install --reinstall libreoffice-core ' and see what the package manager has to say.
[02:46] <www2> can not download
[02:46] <www2> same same for libreoffice-java-common
[02:47] <Bashing-om> www2:  What does the package manager say ? best to pastebin the result.
[02:49] <www2> @Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/ffG7MfGX (lanuage is dutch)
[02:50] <oerheks> reboot, then run again; sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[02:50] <Bashing-om> !info libreoffice-core impish
[02:53] <www2> this is werd the pagacages.ubuntu.com say a diffrent version: https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/libreoffice-core
[02:53] <oerheks> i see you use passwordless sudo?
[02:54] <oerheks> y
[02:56] <www2> @Bashing-om i have done a reboot and a apt update& apt upgrade: https://pastebin.com/j4SZqV9M
[03:01] <Bashing-om> www2: Himmm .. answer with y - and then what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' ? see here if the held packages install.
[03:02] <Bashing-om> hummmm**
[03:10] <www2> I found the problem some how i have disable main repo
[03:11] <Bashing-om> www2: \o/ ! Good sluething :D
[03:12] <www2> anf fix
[03:30] <Shambler> is there a way to create relative symlinks without it changing the modification time of the target?
[04:54] <zhenyou> 141414
[09:19] <datatech> Man. I was troubleshooting a kde app and ended up setting XDG_DATA_HOME and XDG_CONFIG_HOME in .profile. After logging back in, everything, I mean everything starts and runs incredibly fast. I'm a little shocked here.
[09:45] <nikolam> I wonder, I wonder.... I have put in new PCIeX1->2X SATA controller (ASM1062) and now my network interface that used to be called enp2s0 , now is called enp3s0 ..
[09:46] <nikolam> And VirtualBox VM failed to boot at system start because.. no network interface..
[09:46] <nikolam> Why network interface name changed when I have add a new card that is not the network card to the system...
[09:50] <jeremy31> Looks like it moved from port 2 to port 3
[09:52] <mort> weird, a server can't reach the repos
[09:52] <mort> no.archive.ubuntu.com:80 just gives it a connection refused error
[09:53] <mort> I can reach no.archive.ubuntu.com:80 from my laptop
[09:56] <mort> huh, everything over port 80 gets connection refused
[09:56] <mort> and 443, something's messed up and it's not ubuntu's archives
[10:11] <Tumulte> Hello !
[10:12] <Tumulte> My laptop (a dell XPS) isn't charging when plugged to my monitor (it's not detected as a power source at all)
[10:12] <Tumulte> googling wasn't much helpfull either... is there something to do ?
[10:25] <avih__> leftyfb: fyi, regardless of the fact that it doesn't seem an ubuntu issue, and that i agree it should die, this ubuntu version and ufw actually do happen to be a supported, as 12.04 ESM, which is apparently free to register for 3 months, even today.
[10:31] <TJ-> ESM is provided by Canonical not by the user community, and is limited to security patches for High and Critical rated CVEs
[11:00] <avih__> TJ-: it was an anecdote. because lefty* told me i shouldn't ask questions about unsupported things to not waste everyone's time.
[11:00] <avih__> and anyway, i asked politely and never required anything. if someone could help - great, if not, also fine.
[11:11] <avih__> TJ-: also, the channel title says "official ubuntu support channel". personally i'd interpret it as a channel regarding official ubuntu versions. not limited only to what the "community" knows about.
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> avih__: the support channel here is driven by volunteers, from the community
[11:15] <avih__> i totally understand
[11:16] <avih__> as i said, it was an anecdote, as a reply to "We can't support that here ... you did [require support - avih] 12 hours ago. And people were wasting their time helping to support something that wasn't an issue with ubuntu"
[11:23] <webchat8684> hi. how can i map a device in /dev/ as a file with a filesize?
[11:23] <webchat8684> for example specify a predefined filesize for /dev/urandom, map it to something else and then make it accessible as a virtual file
[12:02] <qskwood> Can someone please fix Launchpad's password reset page?
[12:02] <qskwood> It has a hidden field that some browsers automatically try to fill in, and when they do the page assumes you're a bot and tells you to go screw yourself.
[12:02] <qskwood> You literally have to open the page in an incognito window in Chrome to reset your password.
[12:02] <qskwood> Incognito mode = nothing to autofill.
[12:03] <coz_> good morning
[12:32] <rwinner> Hi, I got my first kernel to boot. No wifi. When I try to modproble iwlwifi it says Error: wrong Exec format or something like that. Both iwlwifi.ko and cfg80211.ko are there, though.
[12:35] <saba> Hi! I run focal and I really want to completely turn off update notifications and only manually update through the terminal. I have changed "automatically check for updates" to "never" and "When there are other updates" to "display every two weeks". I have also changed com / ubuntu / update-notifier / no-show-notifications to *enabled*. Despite this the update notifications pop up pretty much once a day it
[12:35] <saba> seems. Any ideas?
[12:36] <saba> Perhaps I can simply modify the launcher of the software updater, so it launches /bin/echo? Not sure where that script is though.
[12:37] <Gallomimia> also would prefer to find a solution to that. not sure tho
[12:41] <andrea> Hi, I have a question regardin gedit
[12:42] <qskwood> I'm trying to create a package. Is there a document that outlines the required fields in `control` ?
[12:42] <qskwood> The example given in the documentation includes fields I don't see in an example control file from nginx.
[12:42] <khadas> hi everyone
[12:42] <qskwood> I don't know what ones are mandatory.
[12:43] <andrea> anyone knows hot to change color of some words in gedti?
[12:43] <andrea> gedit
[12:43] <khadas> quit
[12:44] <ThinkT510> andrea: are you talking about syntax highlighting?
[12:47] <Gallomimia> i don't believe gedit supports formatting of text as in "rich text" with different fonts, styles, or colors
[12:49] <andrea> yes @Gallomimia, thank you
[12:49] <andrea> ThinkT510: yes I just want to format the text
[12:50] <ThinkT510> gedit certainly supports syntax highlighting. I think it works by detecting the file extension you are using
[12:50] <qskwood> https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/stable/gedit-syntax-highlighting.html.en
[12:51] <qskwood> Uh, yeah it supports it?
[12:51] <qskwood> Unless we're talking about different things.
[12:52] <qskwood> You can highlight code sections, you cannot format with headings and stuff.
[12:52] <andrea> I think we are talkink about different things, I need to change the colour of some words.
[12:53] <Gallomimia> formatting the text will be done in libre office if that's what you want to do.
[12:53] <andrea> So I think I cant
[12:53] <andrea> thank you
[12:53] <Gallomimia> changing the color in the actual document amounts to changing the font, style, size
[12:54] <Gallomimia> in windows, word pad can do this. in mac, text editor can convert to RTF. gedit doesn't go that far, and leaves it to a full featured word processor
[12:55] <Gallomimia> on windows and mac, the word processors are paid products, so it's nice to have a free one that can do the basics. in linux, both are free, so why bother?
[12:57] <andrea> Thank you Gallomimia , I needed just this simple thing. I'll use openoffice
[13:14] <BinarySavior> Gallomimia, the problem was I did not have a ssh server running on the host
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:20] <BinarySavior> Hello, i'm trying to run a new service, it depends on java 11.  I extracted java-11 binaries to /opt/zulu11/bin.  When I try to run the service it fails because it can't find java-11.  I suspect I need to add the binaries to path variable.  How can I do this?  Do I need to locate the .service file?
[13:22] <Gallomimia> andrea, openoffice / libre office. same thing
[13:22] <Gallomimia> BinarySavior, that's what i figured. firewalls usually aren't on and blocking ssh
[13:23] <BinarySavior> I added the binaries to my .bashrc so java 11 works fine for my user, but for the systemctl service it cannot find java
[13:37] <Ermine> Hello, My ubuntu freezes from time to time. I've outlined the problem at Arch linux forum: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=264280 . The same applies to Ubuntu 21.{04,10}
[13:38] <leftyfb> Ermine: why would you outline an issue with ubuntu on an Arch linux forum?
[13:39] <Ermine> leftyfb: because I used Arch before, and I had the very same problem
[13:40] <leftyfb> Ermine: then it doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue. Maybe linux in general or even hardware. Overheating?
[13:42] <Ermine> leftyfb: No overheating. And windows works just fine even under the stress (I play games and have no crashes/freezes)
[13:44] <tomreyn> Ermine: keep an ssh connection into the system open from another system, and run dmesg -w there, so you won't miss any kernel messages
[13:45] <tomreyn> how reproduicbleis it, how often does it occur?
[13:45] <tomreyn> read this if you haven't https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging
[13:46] <Ermine> tomreyn: Idk how to reproduce. It happens roughly once a week
[13:46] <tomreyn> especially linux-crashdump + kernel debugging tricks
[13:47] <tomreyn> also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[13:52] <Ermine> tomreyn: I'll try setting up crashdump, but I doubt that kdump will work (It didn't work in Arch case)
[13:53] <Ermine> Btw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe - link for verifying installation is broken
[13:55] <tomreyn> that's probably related to "last edited 2016-07-17 10:44:24"
[13:58] <webchat69v2> hm
[14:00] <tomreyn> Ermine: http://web.archive.org/web/20200326104137/https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html
[14:05] <tomreyn> Ermine: i updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe to point there
[14:29] <Zblace> Hey Folx I am looking for advice...
[14:29] <Zblace> I am running Ubuntu on USB stick
[14:29] <Zblace> as my laptop HD is corupt and
[14:29] <Zblace> creates terrible noise when accessed.
[14:29] <Zblace> How do I make USB Ubuntu
[14:29] <Zblace> not to even try accessing HD?
[14:30] <ravage> If it's broken open the laptop and remove the HDD
[14:30] <ravage> It's usually only a few screws
[14:32] <Zblace> I was thinking how not to touch it at all,
[14:32] <Zblace> like to keep using the system without shutting down.
[14:33] <tomreyn> ubuntu should not have accessed the hdd by itself other than maybe during boot
[14:33] <tomreyn> thats if you booted from a usb
[14:34] <tomreyn> ...stick
[14:35] <Zblace> Yes, but it just did when I left it on sleep mode
[14:35] <Zblace> and than woke up...?!?
[14:52] <noarb> I'm trying to write a device driver using an sdk with a prorprietary license, so this driver in its entirety will never be able to be included in debian/ubuntu. With my lightweight driver implementation, can I reference the .so library with a proprietary license so the software will work if a user installs it manually?
[14:52] <Kolusion> It can be included in Debian or Ubuntu, people will just have to download it directly from your website or something.
[14:52] <noarb> I'm trying to get a fingerprint reader to work with ubuntu desktop: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libfprint/fprintd/-/issues/115 found a few similar issues like this so there is some demand other than myself
[14:53] <noarb> you mean that my intermediate driver can be included, and then they would have to install the proprietary shared lib?
[14:53] <Kolusion> Your hardware must be really awesome, otherwise I don't think a lot of people are going to install it, and you will be wasting your life. Just a warning.
[14:54] <noarb> I appreciate that warning. I'm more trying to get it to work for myself and understand this process more
[14:54] <Kolusion> It would be included in Debian and Ubuntu's proprietary channels.
[14:54] <Kolusion> I an tell your a Windows developers. Windows developers are good.
[14:55] <Kolusion> I welcome Windows developers to come and develop of Ubuntu. The repository is full of a lot of crap apps with garbage documentation.
[14:56] <leftyfb> Kolusion: stay on topic
[14:56] <leftyfb> please*
[14:56] <Kolusion> The process goes like this. You develop your drivers, package it and then join the package website and submit it for inclusion in the next release.
[14:56] <Kolusion> lefty, shut the fuck up Hillary Clinton supporter.
[14:57] <Kolusion> noarb, see https://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:58] <leftyfb> !op | Kolusion
[14:58] <Kolusion> lefty, are you the local loser around here that sucks up to all the ops?
[14:59] <Kolusion> I don't see you contributing to this conversation other than wishing you where an op and also doing some severe ass kissing
[14:59] <leftyfb> Kolusion: this is a support channel. Please stay on topic
[15:05] <Kolusion> lefty, where are you ops you little bitch?
[15:07] <webchat69v2> hm
[15:07] <webchat69v2> anyone can help with setting up external monitor xD
[15:08] <Kolusion> lefty, I am readying your tragic blog "I started messing with slackware linux back in 93"
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> Kolusion: please stay ontopic support
[15:08] <Kolusion> So you must be like some 55 year old womanless loser going through a midlife crisis right now
[15:09] <hggdh> Kolusion: please stop
[15:09] <Kolusion> "Currently, I manage 3 ubuntu servers, 1 gentoo and 1 fedora for personal use" <<< HHAHAHAHAHAHA what a loser.... might as well tell us all what your favourite flag is, and stamp collection
[15:09] <hggdh> sigh
[15:10] <webchat69v2> hm
[15:42] <webchat69v2> hm
[16:20] <Sircle> How to see cpu, gpu temerature graph. I am going to replace thermal paste so i want to know temperature before and after. I use ubuntu linux
[16:23] <leftyfb> Sircle: you can use a tool like lmsensors to see temps, though it doesn't graph
[16:24] <KBar> sensors-applet though i've never tried it
[16:27] <Sircle> leftyfb  KBar ok
[16:29] <TJ-> Is anyone familiar with enabling a touchscreen (in touchscreen multitouch mode, not just mouse emulation) in Xorg, or have a device which already does this I can compare config and logs against ?
[16:30] <Sircle> leftyfb lmsensors no such package
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: a lot of good experiences are heading out from unity desktop rather then gnome for touchscreens
[16:30] <leftyfb> Sircle: lm-sensors
[16:31] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I'm using Kubuntu, but its not the DE layer its the xinput layer that isn't doing what it should
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> ah
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> dont have one handy myself atm sorry TJ-
[16:32] <Sircle> leftyfb installed sensor-applet but running says no command found.  however psensor seems to work fine
[16:32] <TJ-> Basically the touchscreen is detected, and has 3 separate input devices (Mouse, Stylus, 'Touchscreen') but the 'Touchscreen' input is treated as a mouse
[16:33] <Sircle> leftyfb same
[16:35] <KBar> Sircle it's an applet you dont run it from terminal
[16:36] <leftyfb> Sircle: the command line too for lm-sensors is called sensors
[16:36] <Sircle> ok thanks
[16:39] <TJ-> Xinput view: https://termbin.com/jackc  Xorg.0.log: https://termbin.com/0gff  ... IDs 15 (event 13 'Mouse') 16 (event 15) 17 (event 16 'Stylus'). Note how the touch input (id=16, event 15) in the log is ignored
[16:40] <tomreyn> webchat69v2: you "hm" a lot. did you have an ubuntu support question, and details on what does not seem to work?
[16:40] <webchat69v2> yes
[16:40] <webchat69v2> i posted the question..im just hming to see if im still connected here Xd
[16:41] <tomreyn> please use your irc clients' /ping feature for this, or the #tests channel or a channel of your own
[16:44] <webchat7> I need help
[16:44] <webchat7> Can i make a live ubuntu ubs
[16:46] <tomreyn> webchat69v2: please use your irc clients' /ping feature to check that you're still connected, or the #tests channel or a channel of your own
[16:51] <tomreyn> Sircle: if "sensors" does not output anything useful, or not enough, you can run   sudo sensors-detect   to identify more sensors
[17:30] <RadSurfer> when trying to learn about 'read', man read gives you a C-function description, not how it works in Bash! How do I get bash-only descriptions?
[17:37] <dbungert> RadSurfer: the manpage for bash is what I use, try searching for "^SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS"
[17:45] <RadSurfer> seems silly there wouldn't be a more direct route to this information!
[17:46] <GrayGhost> software installer stoped working today , I get a blank screen with a circling arrow
[17:54] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> hey how do I install qt-creator in ubuntu 21.04
[17:54] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ?
[17:57] <sarnold> Ronalds_Mazitis_: sudo apt install qtcreator
[18:00] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> tnx
[18:01] <sidh> Greetings,
[18:02] <sidh> Do you know on which mailing list/ forum I should ask for help for a 20.04 ZFS/ZSys install ?
[18:11] <sarnold> sidh: this isn't a bad start; there's also askubuntu.com and then the discourse (I think) forums
[18:29] <sidh> ok sarnold thx for the info
[18:35] <jhutchins> sidh: A brief summary of your problem/question (with relevant details) might get a useful response here.
[18:35] <jhutchins> sidh: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[18:59] <Sven_vB> hi :) is there a way in focal to switch the gufw profile via command line? couldn't find the location profiles in "ufw --help", only "app" profiles.
[19:09] <Sven_vB> unrelated: is there an easier way to discover focal's default sshd config, than to install sshd afresh?
[19:10] <summonner> package cache?
[19:12] <sarnold> apt download openssh-server ; ar x openssh-server* ; tar xf data.* ; cat etc/ssh/sshd*config   ?
[19:14] <Sven_vB> sarnold, thanks, I'll try
[19:14] <Sven_vB> sarnold, how do I check whether install scripts will modify the file after unpacking?
[19:15] <sarnold> Sven_vB: tar xf control.* and read the *inst* scripts
[19:16] <Sven_vB> I see, thanks!
[19:21] <summonner> Sven_vB,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gufw#Use_Gufw_without_Graphical_Environment_or_Remote_Computer
[19:21] <Sven_vB> summonner, thanks!
[19:21] <summonner> so running the gui over X
[19:23] <Sven_vB> summonner, however, I cannot find there how to switch the profiles
[19:23] <Ermine> Hello again, my pc freezed again, but this time I have kdump linux-crashdump installed. Both times I had youtube opened in firefox.
[19:25] <summonner> Sven_vB, you cannot from the documentation. if you want to do it, it's either via the gui locally, or you do it in the gui via X remotely
[19:25] <Sven_vB> Ermine, as a workaround, try if Invidious works better. to use a public hosted instance, you can just replace "youtube.com" in the URL with "yewtu.be".
[19:26] <Sven_vB> summonner, I see. thanks
[19:27] <summonner> Ermine, disable any hardware acceleration
[19:32] <Ermine> How can I know that kdump finished and I can reboot?
[19:33]  * enyc meows
[19:34] <enyc> Ermine: do yo uhave a hard disk led/light or similar to use?
[19:35] <enyc> hrrm kdump can be set up in various ways, switch to another kernel to recover state, ........
[19:35] <enyc> or that just saves logs on what hapened then does a full reboot, or allsorts!
[19:38] <Ermine> enyc: I have a disk activity led, and it is not blinking now. Kdump is configured as described on linux-crashdump ubuntu wiki page
[19:39] <enyc> Ermine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe  hrrm
[19:40] <enyc> Ermine: I tend to  alt+sysrq+S  (sync fs)  alt+sysrq+U  (remount filesystems readonly or unmount entirely)  and alt+sysrq+B  (reBoot)
[19:40] <enyc> if you are in a stuck state of some form that may make sense to do now
[19:42] <Ermine> enyc: unfortunately I don't have sysrq on my keyboard
[19:42] <enyc> Ermine: printscreen ?
[19:42] <enyc> Ermine: that basically seems t be same key  alt+printscreen+ {s,u,b}
[19:43] <enyc> sometimes is FN+ something to get prtsc  so  alt+{fn+smethingelse}(can let go of fn only)+{s,u,b}
[19:46] <Ermine> enyc: wow, printscreen worked, thanks! Anyway, I've rebooted, and tried triggering crash manually, and there are no signs of kdump activity
[19:47] <enyc> Ermine: I don't recall all the IBM decisions of calling   alt+printsrceen sysrq  or so
[19:47] <enyc> Ermine: i also think particular ALT key can matter in *some* cases.
[19:55] <Ermine> Anyway, shouldn't kdump reboot my box?
[20:02] <enyc> Ermine: good question, may not be configured that way, I don't know, not used it myself, thankyou for showing its' existance to me!
[20:03] <jhutchins> "sysrq" returns about 1.5 million hits on Google.
[20:04] <jhutchins> ...If you're looking for details.
[20:23] <Ermine> I've changed crashdump parameter to 512M and kdump worked: pc rebooted and I have core file at /var/crash
[20:24] <sarnold> woot
[20:28] <Ermine> Oh, sorry i've meant this: linux-crashdump package sets crashkernel= kernel parameter. I've changed it to 512M and kdump started working
[20:31] <qswz> how to maje terminal show npm.im/ajv as a link (assuming https:// protocol), it works with https://npm.im/ajv but not npm.im/ajv
[20:31] <qswz> make*
[20:32] <sarnold> what terminal?
[20:33] <sarnold> it may or may not be possible but different terminals will have different capabilities
[20:33] <qswz> LXTerminal
[20:35] <oerheks> gnome terminal does this with the VTE plugin, https://gist.github.com/egmontkob/eb114294efbcd5adb1944c9f3cb5feda
[20:35] <oerheks> the list on that page does not include LXterminal, i see
[20:37] <qswz> ok, I'll probly switch to it
[20:43] <Sircle> Is there a way to completely shutoff gpu via OS?
[20:43] <enyc> Sircle: do you mean on a  intel<>nvidia  switchable-graphics system?
[20:45] <Sircle> enyc builtin m6700 but its not cpu builtin gpu
[20:45] <Sircle> https://youtu.be/nLdJZjQOIrU?t=382
[20:53] <enyc> Sircle: oh interesting seems to be some kind of graphics 'module'
[20:54] <enyc> Sircle: are you sure this isn't "optimus" territory -- https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA_Optimus  etc...?
[20:55] <enyc> could 'switch away' from the nvidia driving etc
[21:09] <Guest73> I'm seeing hashsum mismatches from every mirror I try when attempting to update focal. Before I dig too deep is it just me?
[21:09] <RobertDobbs> welp, i JUST found out about freenode LOL
[21:10] <RobertDobbs> glad I can still find this chat room :D
[21:10] <EriC^^> Guest73: apt-get update works here, it's probably your isp's cache
[21:10] <RobertDobbs> I am using 18.04 gnome-flashback and I was wondering - Is it possible to run both compiz and metacity at the same time?  In a CTRL-ALT-F2 kind of way?
[21:10] <Guest73> usually when I see that changing to the "Main Server" works but not today. Same failures on any mirror
[21:13] <EriC^^> Guest73: try using your mobile data or another connection for the apt-get update
[21:14] <sarnold> Guest73: the usual cause of this problem is horrible transparent http proxies
[21:15] <EriC^^> they should add some dont use cache feature to apt-get, like curl's pragma:no-cache stuff
[21:17] <sarnold> well, normally apt caching is wonderful :) it's just the poorly-implemented ISP middleware boxes that intentionally break things that break things, and I suspect those horrible middleware boxes wouldn't respect the headers anyway
[21:18] <EriC^^> true :)
[21:21] <tomreyn> RobertDobbs: I would think that pressing CTRL-ALT-F2 will do nothing at all for you because that should bring you to your already active desktop session on tty2 (gdm3 sitting on tty1)
[21:22] <tomreyn> (but i can't really comment on compiz or metacity other than I assume at least compiz won't be compatible with future Ubuntu releases due to the move to (X)Wayland - there is wayfire, though)
[21:23] <RobertDobbs> wayfire??
[21:24] <tomreyn> i'm not sure how to answer this question, or these questions, based on the number of question marks.
[21:24] <RobertDobbs> lol
[21:24] <RobertDobbs> more excitement than a question ha
[21:25] <RobertDobbs> so, CTRL-ALT-F2 is an active desktop session already huh.....
[21:25] <Sircle> Is there a simple way to just disable gpu and use integrated gpu only  on ubuntu linux?
[21:25] <RobertDobbs> well, is it possible to have say another use logged into metacity as well as compiz?
[21:28] <tomreyn> RobertDobbs: i do not know. i do know that these are widely considered software of the past.
[21:29] <tomreyn> Sircle: are proprietary graphics drivers involved in this?
[21:30] <RobertDobbs> Sircle that depends on what graphics card you're using
[21:30] <RobertDobbs> Im sure you could uninstall some drivers and it would default to integrated gpu - but that would be a hack
[21:34] <tomreyn> sarnold, EriC^^: regarding ugly middleware boxes, the archive mirror list on launchpad does indicate HTTPS support nowadays (finally!).
[21:34] <sarnold> tomreyn: I think that's been there forever
[21:34] <sarnold> it's the main archive not having https that's been long desired
[21:35] <TJ-> It's possible to disable the PCI device; e.g. given "lspci -nn -d ::0300" reports the device  0a:00.0  then  "echo 0 > 0a:00.0 " will disable that device
[21:35] <tomreyn> sarnold: how much do you want to loose on this bet? i'll proove the opposite shortly.
[21:39] <sarnold> tomreyn: dangit your'e right, it's not there even as recently as 2019 :( https://web.archive.org/web/20190223231138/https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[21:39] <tomreyn> yes, i'm just trying to find the relevant "diff"
[21:40] <tomreyn> but it's been longer than i was thinking, over a year
[21:42] <tomreyn> 2020-04-14 has https http://web.archive.org/web/20200414115146/https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[21:42] <tomreyn> 2020-03-06 does not http://web.archive.org/web/20200306063039/https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[21:43] <Sircle> tomaw I am not using any prop dirvers. I use xorg drivers. not nvidia. RobertDobbs  I have dell m6700 laptiop
[21:44] <RobertDobbs> hmmm, then I am out of my depth on that one
[21:45] <sarnold> tomreyn: and the most surprising thing is that I know the xmission isp has hosted https archive mirror for ages, and I thought for sure that the archive mirror page said they were there, but it doesn't even say that now ..:(
[21:51] <tomreyn> Sircle: try this https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/hybrid_graphics#Fully_Power_Down_Discrete_GPU
[21:52] <tomreyn> sarnold: i'm sure there are more of them supporting https than those that are listed. maybe some do not want to guarantee that they do.
[21:56] <RobertDobbs> what will the name of 22.04 be?
[21:57] <EriC^^> !22.04 | RobertDobbs
[21:57] <leftyfb> RobertDobbs: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/10/ubuntu-22-04-codename-jammy-jellyfish   first result on google for "ubuntu 22.04 name"
[22:02] <RobertDobbs> tomreyn can I have a second gdm3 running on tty2?
[22:04] <tomreyn> RobertDobbs: i'd be ok with that (but I have no idea whether gdm would be, probably so).
[22:05] <RobertDobbs> thanks for the permission :P
[22:05] <tomreyn> :)
[22:25] <RobertDobbs> whelp - my computer did **NOT** like running gdm3 as two different users
[23:26] <jcbjoe2021> What’s a good way to do a wildcard search for a file?
[23:27] <jcbjoe2021> ‘File-*’ ?
[23:28] <tomreyn> within a single directory, or recursively?
[23:28] <sarnold> can you rephrase it?
[23:29] <jcbjoe2021> tomreyn: I will be using find .
[23:29] <jcbjoe2021> All sub directories
[23:31] <sarnold> find . -type f -name '*foo*' ?
[23:32] <jcbjoe2021> sarnold: tried that but it didn’t come up with what I wanted. The file was made in windows so it has spaces
[23:37]  * srv running ubuntu 20.04 & win11 both at the same time 
[23:37] <srv> :)
[23:38] <srv> no vm and no dualboot:)
[23:39] <tomreyn> jcbjoe2021: keep in mind most file systems are case sensitive, too, there is -iname for find
[23:39] <jcbjoe2021> tomreyn: I always use -iname