[11:19] <lotuspsychje> PaulW2U: tnx to affect my cheese bug last time
[11:21] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: ok, np. I keep an eye on incoming bugs to see if I'm affected and can reproduce
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> i got 5 so far on -desktop PaulW2U 
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/%7Elotuspsychje/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> top ones are jammy
[11:24] <PaulW2U> I saw those top two. Can't reproduce.
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> maybe its an intel thing
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> me and KBar were on intel graphics to reproduce it
[11:26] <PaulW2U> I'm Intel :)
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> oh
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> weird you cant make dock autohide glitch then
[11:27] <PaulW2U> All I see when I toggle that switch is the time in the top bar moves but that is a known from some time back
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> but no inside gnomes settings window?
[11:29] <PaulW2U> No
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> strange
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> i also cant reproduce what KBar notices on full shell freeze
[11:30] <KBar> PaulW2U, running on X or Wayland?
[11:31] <PaulW2U> KBar: Wayland
[11:32] <KBar> lotuspsychje, AFAIR, the glitch should also appear in a Live session. 
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> ah good to know
[11:33] <KBar> I think it was there when I was testing Impish on my USB stick.
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> i should also test it on xorg
[11:34] <KBar> Please do and let us know.
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> i will after my transfer
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> xorg test brb
[12:19] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: I've just updated cheese to version 41.0-3 which is currently stuck in -proposed and I'm seeing exactly the same problems as I added to your bug report when using version 3.38.0-4. I'll update the bug report once version 41 has migrated which should be in the next couple of days.
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> great work PaulW2U 
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> i tested the dock/gnome-control-center bug on xorg, where i cant reproduce it PaulW2U KBar 
[12:25] <KBar> Hmm.
[12:26] <KBar> Thanks for testing. Pesky bug indeed.
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> and livesessions are xorg right?
[12:26] <KBar> I'm not 100% sure, but I think they are, yes.
[12:27] <KBar> What's the value of XDG_SESSION_TYPE?
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> im on a physical install KBar 
[12:28] <KBar> Ah, you already finished testing. My bad. 
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> got a spare laptop to play early with
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> Client: HexChat 2.16.0 • OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz (1,80GHz) • Memory: Physical: 11,3 GiB Total (9,7 GiB Free) Swap: 2,0 GiB Total (2,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 28,0 GB / 239,3 GB (211,2 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 620 @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 1h 12m 14s
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> KBar: bug #1949183 was the cheese bug me an PaulW2U tested
[12:35] <KBar> Yep. Live sessions are set to use X11.
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> cool KBar 
[12:39] <PaulW2U> Just confirmed bug 1759526 - unconfirmed since early 2018. There must be a confirmed report somewhere.
[12:40] <KBar> lotuspsychje, very nice. I see you have already included every bit of information that you have in that report. Hopefully, it will get triaged very soon.
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> its nice to help affect/confirm each others bugs like this, speedup bug solve process
[12:41] <KBar> +1
[12:43] <KBar> PaulW2U, can you try attaching screenshots/a short screencast? 
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> i cant seem to influence the clock
[12:43] <KBar> By the way, GNOME included a built-in video capturing utility. Press Shift+Ctrl+Alt+R to invoke it.
[12:43] <KBar> *includes
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> does it work properly on wayland KBar ?
[12:44] <KBar> Yep. Works flawlessly.
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> cool
[12:45] <KBar> A little bit buggy in a virtual machine but super good on a real hardware.
[12:59] <PaulW2U> KBar: Successfully recorded but when uploaded to the bug report and viewed all I see is a green screen as I reported in lotuspsychje's cheese bug report. Deleted from bug report and uploaded to https://files.pcw.me.uk/ubuntu/Screencast%20from%2005-11-21%2012%3A46%3A04.webm
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> no page found for me PaulW2U 
[13:03] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: Works for me. Try https://files.pcw.me.uk/ubuntu/ - it's the first file
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> is that gnome classic PaulW2U ? i got the dock at bottom, lemme try that on the left
[13:07] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: it's standard Ubuntu with minimal customisation so that I can better see what others see when they report bugs
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> allrighty, i can reproduce that clock bug with dock on the left
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> PaulW2U: whats that workspaces indicator you got there?
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> affected bug 1759526
[13:10] <PaulW2U> I think I've got Window List and Workspace Indicator installed. One puts an indicator at the top and the other adds a bar with indicators at the bottom
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> ppa or on repos PaulW2U ?
[13:14] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: I think they are in the gnome-shell-extensions package. If not they are on https://extensions.gnome.org/
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> gnome-shell-extension-appindicator this one?
[13:17] <PaulW2U> No, gnome-shell-extensions which is at version 40.4-2 in jammy
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> cool tnx lets test that
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> oh man thats fantastic PaulW2U 
[13:19] <PaulW2U> \o/
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a workspaces switcher since unity
[13:23] <PaulW2U> Been using that since 17/04(?) when I switched to Ubuntu GNOME
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> well they hidden it pretty well lol
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> you need to logout after adding a workspace?
[13:25] <PaulW2U> No, I just tried adding another
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> hmm it only puts 2 here
[13:26] <PaulW2U> Do you have Dynamic or Static workspaces?
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> dynamic
[13:26] <PaulW2U> I have four static and adding or removing a workspace changes the workspace indicators
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> ah worked tnx
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> sweet!
[13:31] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: cheese 41.0-3 has just migrated from -proposed - bug report updated
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> PaulW2U: https://imgur.com/a/gerFAtJ
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> tnx 4 the cheese update
[13:33] <PaulW2U> Nice
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> sure is now with the fancy workspaces hehe
[15:52] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: bug 1759526 just got closed as "Wont Fix" :o(