| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:17 |
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| jiggawatt | sarnold: why is ubuntu security team so slow in updates ? | 11:12 |
| lotuspsychje | jiggawatt: sarnold is afk at the moment | 11:14 |
| jiggawatt | makes sense | 11:15 |
| jiggawatt | his whole security team seems afk to be honest lol | 11:15 |
| lotuspsychje | jiggawatt: what is this about exactly? | 11:15 |
| jiggawatt | it's about integrity in software | 11:15 |
| jiggawatt | and dedication to security | 11:15 |
| lotuspsychje | elaborate please? | 11:16 |
| jiggawatt | meh | 11:16 |
| RikMills | jiggawatt: explain why you think that please | 11:17 |
| * jiggawatt doesn't really want to start a channel war... | 11:17 | |
| RikMills | you have an issue clearly. explaining it is not a 'war' | 11:18 |
| RikMills | https://ubuntu.com/security/notices | 11:19 |
| RikMills | the team is clear not afk | 11:19 |
| RikMills | *clearly | 11:19 |
| RikMills | security fixes do require time to validate and check though. ubuntu is not some 'hobbyist' distro that can just shove things out 0day. a lot of big players/companies depend on the reliability of our updates | 11:22 |
| ubuntuboy | when is the next LTS release expected? | 11:25 |
| lotuspsychje | april 2022 | 11:26 |
| ubuntuboy | and is it ok to go from non LTS release to LTS release? | 11:26 |
| ubuntuboy | i am 21.10 | 11:26 |
| ubuntuboy | *on | 11:26 |
| RikMills | that upgrade path should work fine | 11:26 |
| lotuspsychje | the users choice also ubuntuboy, what you think is important for you | 11:26 |
| ubuntuboy | it depends on stability and consistency over new features and flashy stuff | 12:14 |
| ubuntuboy | what are your thoughts lotuspsychje ??? | 12:15 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntuboy: every user in the ubuntu community has their own purpose to use their fav ubuntu release/flavour | 12:16 |
| lotuspsychje | currently i run 20.04 on my business NUC, lubuntu 20.04 on an older netbook and 22.04 development branch early for help debugging | 12:17 |
| ubuntuboy | what are you on? | 12:17 |
| ubuntuboy | lotuspsychje, ??? | 12:17 |
| ubuntuboy | i tired both manjaro and fedora both had issues with EFI but ubuntu installer zipped thru it | 12:18 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntuboy: i think a sane query one should ask oneself is; wich machine will i be installing on, and what will be the machines purpose | 12:21 |
| ubuntuboy | ok | 12:23 |
| ubuntuboy | mine is normal day to day use and few games on steam? | 12:23 |
| lotuspsychje | what kind of hardware inside? laptop or desktop? | 12:23 |
| ubuntuboy | laptop | 12:24 |
| ubuntuboy | can i provide a dump? | 12:25 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntuboy: pastebin inxi -F | 12:26 |
| amacater_ | My thoughts - and I don't use steam. Stick to Ubuntu LTS - so 20.04 [and 22.04 when released] as these get extensive use and testing and you don't gain too much by the interim releases unless you want to try latest and greatest | 12:26 |
| amacater_ | With Ubuntu you get an LTS update every two years guaranteed. | 12:27 |
| lotuspsychje | amacater_: depends on hardware too, we see a lot of users benefit latest releases with higher kernels on AMD hardware for example | 12:28 |
| ubuntuboy | why are font so jagged it was fine when i installed it | 12:29 |
| amacater_ | There is always that - Ubuntu has HWE kernels too but in my experience that adds complexity especially if someone is inexperienced and doesn't know which kernels they are running. | 12:31 |
| jiggawatt | yeah use the non-LTS stuff if you have a newer laptop | 12:34 |
| ubuntuboy | sudo: pastebin: command not found | 12:34 |
| jiggawatt | pastebin.com | 12:34 |
| jiggawatt | lotuspsychje wants the output of `lnxi -F` | 12:35 |
| jiggawatt | `inxi -F` 'scuse me | 12:35 |
| ubuntuboy | https://pastebin.com/SEB2Mjqs | 12:36 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntuboy: on that machine i would go LTS | 12:38 |
| lotuspsychje | nvidia graphics you should pick the nvidia driver instead of nouveau for gaming | 12:39 |
| jeremy31 | My HP is a year older without Nvidia | 12:40 |
| ubuntuboy | thanks lotuspsychje | 12:40 |
| amacater_ | ubuntuboy: Gaming laptop with two video chipsets. It's an interesting one: sometimes the machine decides to use the lower powered chipset, I think. This is a complicating factor - you might want to look at bumblebee? - which is the software to switch between them better. | 12:40 |
| lotuspsychje | amacater_: bumblebee is an outdated method, its nvidia-prime these days | 12:41 |
| amacater_ | Removing nouveau to install nvidia drivers can also be complex. I've done this (on Debian) lots - I'll leave others to advise. | 12:41 |
| ubuntuboy | ok | 12:42 |
| ubuntuboy | then lets wait for LTS release | 12:42 |
| jeremy31 | ubuntuboy: did you have to go into BIOS to the OS Boot menu to get it to use grub at boot after installing? | 12:43 |
| ubuntuboy | jeremy31, meaning? go to bios for what??? | 12:46 |
| ubuntuboy | jeremy31, for BIOS, its UEFI mode as i dual boot with Win11 for kids | 12:47 |
| jiggawatt | jeremy31: Do you mean select boot priorities | 12:48 |
| ubuntuboy | grub is fine it picked up both Windows and Ubuntu and its fine and stable | 12:50 |
| ubuntuboy | will move to LTS when it comes out | 12:51 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntuboy: are you on xorg or wayland? | 12:54 |
| ubuntuboy | wayland i think | 12:54 |
| ubuntuboy | wayland | 12:55 |
| lotuspsychje | prob not ideal with your nvidia card, not sure whats the current state these days, prob not all nvidia drivers will work properly | 12:55 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntuboy: ubuntu-drivers list, will show you your drivers available, then compare xorg vs wayland performance after you installed a driver | 12:57 |
| ubuntuboy | ok | 12:59 |
| amacater_ | ubuntuboy: 20.04 is LTS now. 22.04 when it gets here in April 2022 will be LTS | 13:00 |
| amacater_ | But 20.04 will still be supported. | 13:00 |
| ubuntuboy | i will move off to the next LTS release | 13:01 |
| jeremy31 | ubuntuboy: When I installed on my HP it booted straight into Windows and I had to change the OS Boot menu in the BIOS so it would use ubuntu UEFI rather than auto boot into the Windows boot loader | 13:43 |
| ubuntuboy | no i didn't had to do that, first i installed Windows, and then Ubuntu, and install saw a Window Boot manager and i asked to install along with it | 13:45 |
| amacater_ | For anyone else in this position: it's almost worth reinstalling Windows to make sure that it's using UEFI: UEFI for one and MBR for the other really don't mix. | 13:56 |
| jeremy31 | For some reason the UEFI implementation in my HP would not allow Ubuntu to make its bootloader the default one. It worked fine on this Lenovo | 14:05 |
| ubuntuboy | ok | 14:20 |
| ubuntuboy | interesting | 14:20 |
| jeremy31 | It will not allow me to make any changes with efibootmgr in terminal but it doesn't give an error either | 14:27 |
| ubuntuboy | ok | 14:37 |
| ubuntuboy | brb | 14:37 |
| UbuntuBoy | does any have the scope of next LTS release | 17:39 |
| lotuspsychje | !jammy | UbuntuBoy | 17:55 |
| ubottu | UbuntuBoy: Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) will be the 36th release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release April 2022 (https://ubottu.com/y/jj). Join #ubuntu-next for support and questions. | 17:55 |
| UbuntuBoy | lotuspsychje, thabnks | 18:00 |
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