[02:17] good morning [11:12] sarnold: why is ubuntu security team so slow in updates ? [11:14] jiggawatt: sarnold is afk at the moment [11:15] makes sense [11:15] his whole security team seems afk to be honest lol [11:15] jiggawatt: what is this about exactly? [11:15] it's about integrity in software [11:15] and dedication to security [11:16] elaborate please? [11:16] meh [11:17] jiggawatt: explain why you think that please [11:17] * jiggawatt doesn't really want to start a channel war... [11:18] you have an issue clearly. explaining it is not a 'war' [11:19] https://ubuntu.com/security/notices [11:19] the team is clear not afk [11:19] *clearly [11:22] security fixes do require time to validate and check though. ubuntu is not some 'hobbyist' distro that can just shove things out 0day. a lot of big players/companies depend on the reliability of our updates [11:25] when is the next LTS release expected? [11:26] april 2022 [11:26] and is it ok to go from non LTS release to LTS release? [11:26] i am 21.10 [11:26] *on [11:26] that upgrade path should work fine [11:26] the users choice also ubuntuboy, what you think is important for you [12:14] it depends on stability and consistency over new features and flashy stuff [12:15] what are your thoughts lotuspsychje ??? [12:16] ubuntuboy: every user in the ubuntu community has their own purpose to use their fav ubuntu release/flavour [12:17] currently i run 20.04 on my business NUC, lubuntu 20.04 on an older netbook and 22.04 development branch early for help debugging [12:17] what are you on? [12:17] lotuspsychje, ??? [12:18] i tired both manjaro and fedora both had issues with EFI but ubuntu installer zipped thru it [12:21] ubuntuboy: i think a sane query one should ask oneself is; wich machine will i be installing on, and what will be the machines purpose [12:23] ok [12:23] mine is normal day to day use and few games on steam? [12:23] what kind of hardware inside? laptop or desktop? [12:24] laptop [12:25] can i provide a dump? [12:26] ubuntuboy: pastebin inxi -F [12:26] My thoughts - and I don't use steam. Stick to Ubuntu LTS - so 20.04 [and 22.04 when released] as these get extensive use and testing and you don't gain too much by the interim releases unless you want to try latest and greatest [12:27] With Ubuntu you get an LTS update every two years guaranteed. [12:28] amacater_: depends on hardware too, we see a lot of users benefit latest releases with higher kernels on AMD hardware for example [12:29] why are font so jagged it was fine when i installed it [12:31] There is always that - Ubuntu has HWE kernels too but in my experience that adds complexity especially if someone is inexperienced and doesn't know which kernels they are running. [12:34] yeah use the non-LTS stuff if you have a newer laptop [12:34] sudo: pastebin: command not found [12:34] pastebin.com [12:35] lotuspsychje wants the output of `lnxi -F` [12:35] `inxi -F` 'scuse me [12:36] https://pastebin.com/SEB2Mjqs [12:38] ubuntuboy: on that machine i would go LTS [12:39] nvidia graphics you should pick the nvidia driver instead of nouveau for gaming [12:40] My HP is a year older without Nvidia [12:40] thanks lotuspsychje [12:40] ubuntuboy: Gaming laptop with two video chipsets. It's an interesting one: sometimes the machine decides to use the lower powered chipset, I think. This is a complicating factor - you might want to look at bumblebee? - which is the software to switch between them better. [12:41] amacater_: bumblebee is an outdated method, its nvidia-prime these days [12:41] Removing nouveau to install nvidia drivers can also be complex. I've done this (on Debian) lots - I'll leave others to advise. [12:42] ok [12:42] then lets wait for LTS release [12:43] ubuntuboy: did you have to go into BIOS to the OS Boot menu to get it to use grub at boot after installing? [12:46] jeremy31, meaning? go to bios for what??? [12:47] jeremy31, for BIOS, its UEFI mode as i dual boot with Win11 for kids [12:48] jeremy31: Do you mean select boot priorities [12:50] grub is fine it picked up both Windows and Ubuntu and its fine and stable [12:51] will move to LTS when it comes out [12:54] ubuntuboy: are you on xorg or wayland? [12:54] wayland i think [12:55] wayland [12:55] prob not ideal with your nvidia card, not sure whats the current state these days, prob not all nvidia drivers will work properly [12:57] ubuntuboy: ubuntu-drivers list, will show you your drivers available, then compare xorg vs wayland performance after you installed a driver [12:59] ok [13:00] ubuntuboy: 20.04 is LTS now. 22.04 when it gets here in April 2022 will be LTS [13:00] But 20.04 will still be supported. [13:01] i will move off to the next LTS release [13:43] ubuntuboy: When I installed on my HP it booted straight into Windows and I had to change the OS Boot menu in the BIOS so it would use ubuntu UEFI rather than auto boot into the Windows boot loader [13:45] no i didn't had to do that, first i installed Windows, and then Ubuntu, and install saw a Window Boot manager and i asked to install along with it [13:56] For anyone else in this position: it's almost worth reinstalling Windows to make sure that it's using UEFI: UEFI for one and MBR for the other really don't mix. [14:05] For some reason the UEFI implementation in my HP would not allow Ubuntu to make its bootloader the default one. It worked fine on this Lenovo [14:20] ok [14:20] interesting [14:27] It will not allow me to make any changes with efibootmgr in terminal but it doesn't give an error either [14:37] ok [14:37] brb [17:39] does any have the scope of next LTS release [17:55] !jammy | UbuntuBoy [17:55] UbuntuBoy: Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) will be the 36th release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release April 2022 (https://ubottu.com/y/jj). Join #ubuntu-next for support and questions. [18:00] lotuspsychje, thabnks