[00:01] <Bashing-om> !info python3 | focal
[00:27] <Gallomimia> where's the detect displays button
[00:29] <Gallomimia> oh. apparently all i needed to do was "wiggle it. just a little bit"
[02:24] <mw_> using sxhkd 0.5.8 i bind super+a to a command, it properly executes, but the active window also receives the "a" keystroke
[02:25] <mw_> is this the normal behavior?
[02:40] <eric_> Hello? I'm new to XChat
[02:40] <eric_> Can anyone help me?
[02:41] <eric_> Hello?
[02:42] <Fault> https://dontasktoask.com/
[02:44] <eric_> Hello?
[02:46] <EnigmaNamaste> Hello?
[02:46] <Fault> ¿hola?
[02:47] <Kel> Howdy
[02:47] <EnigmaNamaste> Howdy Kel
[02:47] <EnigmaNamaste> I'm new to this just now... ??
[02:55] <EnigmaNamaste> Namaste _/|\_  I'm new to IRC Can anyone help or chat with me?
[02:55] <EnigmaNamaste> Hello?
[02:55] <ducky> hi
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> !ask | EnigmaNamaste
[02:56] <Bashing-om> EnigmaNamaste: Tou ar in the Ubuntu support channel - How may we help ?
[02:56] <Bashing-om> You are in ** :(
[02:57] <EnigmaNamaste> Hi This is my first time in XChat... I'm hungry to find chat again like in the day when I chatted in yahoo chat... So I'm learning.. Please be patient.
[02:59] <EnigmaNamaste> I'm new to this and working my way through the settings etc... and trying to find topical chats or "rooms/channels" to join.
[03:00] <EnigmaNamaste> I found the "help" site now... xchat.org/docs... that will help I'm sure :-)
[03:04] <Bashing-om> EnigmaNamaste: Reading is allways good :) ,,, finding channels here on libera, there is a service, alis, to aid. See the result from ' msg alis help list ' from your client status window.
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> !xchat | EnigmaNamaste see also
[03:09] <tim_> Hello
[03:09] <tim_> Do people actually use this ?
[03:09] <justyb11> tim_, By actually use this, what do you mean?
[03:09] <tim_> Like use HexChat
[03:09] <tim_> Why would anyone use this thing in the era of DiscorD?
[03:10] <tim_> I just stumbled on it on a whim
[03:10] <leftyfb> tim_: This is an ubuntu support channel. Free free to /join #libera to random chat
[03:10] <tim_> Oh sorry
[06:12] <webchat39> hello
[06:13] <ravage> hi
[06:14] <webchat39> hello
[06:14] <ravage> !ask | webchat39
[06:15] <webchat39> how do i install wifi driver in ubuntu 20.04.
[06:16] <ravage> Ubuntu 20.04 already has a lot of drivers included. if your wifi does not work you have to tell us which wifi chipset your use
[06:16] <webchat39> realtek
[06:17] <toddc> webchat39: realtek should work but these instrutions will guide you to the correct chipset https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:18] <webchat39> i tried but it didn't work
[06:19] <ravage> you can send the output of "lspci > /tmp/drivers; lsusb >> /tmp/drivers; cat /tmp/drivers | nc termbin.com 9999" here if you want
[06:19] <ravage> will tell which one you have
[06:20] <computerconnor> hello?
[06:20] <ravage> webchat39: also "uname -a" is helpful
[06:21] <webchat39> realtek wifi driver
[06:21] <webchat39> step by step process to install
[06:21] <ravage> webchat39: we need the requested information+
[06:22] <webchat39> information  ??
[06:22] <ravage> send the output of "lspci > /tmp/drivers; lsusb >> /tmp/drivers; cat /tmp/drivers | nc termbin.com 9999"
[06:23] <ravage> and also of "uname -a"
[06:49] <qskwood> I have run the following commands and my LAN hosts cannot access anything beyond the gateway: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/76d50b39
[06:49] <qskwood> What am I doing wrong here?
[07:00] <Toxmi> Is it possible to run a npm package locally? I have found a JS app in github and can easily install it by `npm install app` but I can not and do not know how to run it e.g. as a localhost server or something. I tried something like `npx app` or `npm run app` or `npm exec app` but those seems doesn't work. It seems it's intended to be embeded in a HTML project, is there a way generally to locally
[07:00] <Toxmi> run a JS app?
[07:04] <mw_> qskwood: check the output of route
[07:06] <qskwood> mw_, https://paste.debian.net/plainh/33fbd2ab
[07:06] <qskwood> That's the gateway
[07:09] <mw_> so the machine itself can reach outside?
[07:09] <mw_> dunno, maybe you have some other firewall rules set up
[07:09] <qskwood> Yeah the kernel has a dev route for IPv6 hosts beyond its LAN subnet
[07:11] <qskwood> https://paste.debian.net/plainh/3008038e
[07:11] <qskwood> Nothing I'm aware of
[07:13] <mw_> sorry, it was a long ago i messed with iptables, have no idea.. is the RELATED,ESTABLISHED rule supposed to be in the filter chain rather than nat?
[07:14] <qskwood> Yeah I believe so
[07:17] <mw_> iptables -L  or  iptables -L -tnat might tell you more, also there is a route (not ip route) command with slightly different output
[07:18] <qskwood> both IPv4 tables are empty
[07:19] <qskwood> route isn't included with Ubuntu by default since the suite has been deprecated for years
[07:23] <mw_> i meant ip6tables -L
[07:23] <qskwood> Ah well all that is already in that pastebin
[07:27] <mw_> you seem to be already way ahead of me, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[07:28] <RoundDuckKira> How can you get secure boot to work on nvidia
[07:28] <RoundDuckKira> On my pc I hit "enroll keys" and reboot a d Nvidia driver doesn't load
[07:28] <RoundDuckKira> So I uninstalled Ubuntu MATE 20.04
[07:29] <RoundDuckKira> Because I wonder if I could get it to work by looking at the secure boot modes on my pc
[07:29] <RoundDuckKira> There's a user, deployed/deployment, setup, and audit mode
[07:30] <RoundDuckKira> I tried setup and no password prompt on installation to signify secure boot is used
[07:30] <RoundDuckKira> Aaaaaagh
[07:30] <RoundDuckKira> I even tried manually adding the mok.der key to the certificate collection and it failed
[07:36] <RoundDuckKira> I realize maybe I shouldn't touch the modes
[07:36] <RoundDuckKira> Damn it
[07:38] <cbreak> RoundDuckKira: secure boot shouldn't need a password
[07:38] <cbreak> it should need the boot process to be signed by microsoft, or similar
[07:38] <RoundDuckKira> What's with the "create a password" thing when you pick the install proprietary stuffs button tho
[07:39] <RoundDuckKira> Usually because of *cough* Nvidia *cough*
[07:39] <cbreak> linux abi is unstable unfortunately
[07:39] <cbreak> so external drivers have to be rebuilt with every kernel update, via dkms or similar
[07:40] <cbreak> so maybe that's for code signing?
[07:40] <RoundDuckKira> and Linux is monolithic
[07:40] <RoundDuckKira> Yeah it's to sign those drivers I think
[07:40] <RoundDuckKira> And the initramfs?
[07:41] <RoundDuckKira> Yeah by default Ubuntu works put of the box but Nvidia puts a monkey wrench into things
[07:41] <RoundDuckKira> *out of the box on secure boot
[07:42] <RoundDuckKira> The good news is that on many stuff, the default stuff mok manager does when this happens works pretty well
[07:42] <RoundDuckKira> ...but on my Lenovo desktop it doesn't.
[07:43] <RoundDuckKira> ._.
[07:43] <qskwood> Hm.
[07:44] <qskwood> I did a `tcpdump -i ens33 icmp6` on the gateway and tried doing tracert on a LAN machine.
[07:44] <qskwood> The gateway never gets pinged
[07:44] <qskwood> I don't get it, it's the default IPv6 gateway for that LAN machine
[08:01] <deksar> Is there any difference on Nginx and PHP performance between Linux distros? Let's say CentOS vs Ubuntu?
[08:08] <shanmukh> hello how do i install wifi driver in ubuntu
[08:09] <SteelRose> shanmukh: it will depend on which chipset you have... best option would be to goolge it ...
[08:09] <shanmukh> yeah..!! i have realtek driver
[08:10] <SteelRose> deksar: never saw such a difference... it will depend on the size of your hardware/VM ... and how you configure your webserver for optimal performance
[08:10] <shanmukh> but iam new to ubuntu how do i install i want to know process
[08:10] <qskwood> shanmukh, what WiFi card?
[08:10] <shanmukh> realtek driver
[08:10] <qskwood> what WiFi card
[08:10] <qskwood> there are a million Realtek drivers
[08:11] <SteelRose> shanmukh: https://bfy.tw/RyXb
[08:11] <shanmukh> i dont know exactly
[08:13] <shanmukh> let me installation process
[08:13] <shanmukh> know the process
[08:13] <qskwood> There's no way for us to know what driver you need without knowing what WiFi card you have.
[08:14] <qskwood> That's like asking us what kind of oil you need for your car while refusing to go out and read the model number off the bumper.
[08:14] <qskwood> Is it a USB card or a PCIe card?
[08:16] <Kolusion> What's up with the firewall UFW? Apparently when it's enabled, it blocks inbound traffic and allows inbound traffic. Yet when I enable it I can't make a PPTP connection.
[08:17] <Kolusion> I got disconnected
[08:17] <Kolusion> So, what's up with the firewall UFW? Apparently when it's enabled, it blocks inbound traffic and allows inbound traffic, yet when I enable it I can't make a PPTP connection.
[08:18] <qskwood> You don't really need to repeat the question 76 seconds later, even if you get disconnected
[08:19] <Kolusion> OH FFS sorry. Let me write that again. I am at the park on my POS smartphone
[08:19] <qskwood> I assume you mean it blocks inbound and allows outbound
[08:20] <Kolusion> So re. the firewall UFW... Apparently when it's enabled, it blocks inbound traffic and allows outbound traffic, yet when I enable it I can't make a PPTP connection.
[08:20] <qskwood> Did you enable PPTP through the firewall?
[08:20] <Kolusion> Yeah man that's it
[08:20] <qskwood> ... anyway
[08:21] <qskwood> You need to do one of two things, enable the conntrack module (maybe) for PPTP or enable the protocol through your firewall
[08:21] <Kolusion> I enabled it's port and port 47. The server receives the connection and then it says its waiting for some config and then times out
[08:22] <qskwood> Did you reload your firewall after adding the rule?
[08:22] <Kolusion> I tried contrakk. It didn't work. If I disable UFW, everything is fine. :/
[08:23] <Kolusion> Yep
[08:23] <qskwood> (wild suggestion here, have you considered using a different VPN protocol?)
[08:24] <Kolusion> PPTP only uses TCP
[08:24] <qskwood> You can set OpenVPN to use TCP only to
[08:25] <Kolusion> The VPN is not he problem though, its UFW
[08:25] <ikonia> only really version differences
[08:25] <Kolusion> OpenVPN doesn't work
[08:25] <ikonia> eg: if version 7.1 is %50 faster than version 7.0 then yes
[08:25] <qskwood> You're probably right, I'm just saying PPTP is horrendous
[08:25] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[08:25] <qskwood> If you're unable to switch that's fine
[08:25] <shanmukh> hello how do i install wlan driver
[08:26] <qskwood> but if you were just starting this project I'd recommend switching
[08:26] <Kolusion> It's the only VPN application that works
[08:26] <qskwood> shanmukh, did you see my previous reply?
[08:26] <shanmukh> yes
[08:26] <qskwood> What type of WiFi card do you have, PCIe or USB?
[08:26] <shanmukh> USB
[08:27] <Kolusion> qskwood: Me?
[08:27] <qskwood> Pastebin the output of `lsusb`
[08:27] <Kolusion> pskwood are ou talking to me?
[08:28] <qskwood> no
[08:28] <shanmukh> yes multiple devices showing
[08:29] <Kolusion> I have 50MB of data left. (I am from Australia, we are backwards). I'll return later. Bye
[08:29] <shanmukh> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0bda:f179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. 802.11n
[08:31] <shanmukh> qskwood reply me
[08:31] <qskwood> It looks like you need the rtl8188fu driver
[08:32] <webchat38> testing
[08:33] <shanmukh> qskwood yes
[08:34] <deksar> Is ZFS supported by Ubuntu?
[08:34] <shanmukh> qskwood no i think it is rtl8188EUS
[08:35] <qskwood> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kelebek333/kablosuz then update and install rtl8188eus-dkms
[08:35] <shanmukh> what shoud i do with that text qskwood
[08:36] <qskwood> Read up on package management in Ubuntu
[08:36] <shanmukh> should i paste it in terminal
[08:36] <qskwood> Not if you have no idea what it does, as a rule.
[08:37] <shanmukh> okk can you tell step by step to install
[08:37] <qskwood> I'm not going to do that.
[08:37] <qskwood> You can do some research on your own.
[08:38] <shanmukh> yes i did but could not find
[08:38] <qskwood> This is literally a situation where you could have Google searched your question verbatim and received the same information on page one.
[08:38] <qskwood> "how to install PPA Ubuntu" and "how to use apt Ubuntu"
[08:40] <shanmukh> i hope you can help me
[08:40] <qskwood> I already have.
[09:24] <VIA> gm
[09:32] <RoundDuckKira> I found the solution to my Nvidia secure boot issue
[09:33] <RoundDuckKira> Just needed to enable deployment mode on my lenovo desktop
[09:33] <RoundDuckKira> Then install and use mok manager
[09:56] <mario60> Hi, anybody here?
[09:57] <jiggawatt> yah
[10:14] <qskwood> This channel needs an AI chatbot that responds to stuff like that
[10:18] <deksar> Is ZFS supported by Ubuntu?
[10:19] <mario60> hi, I have a question on how to install Ubuntu on a USB flash drive.
[10:20] <mario60> (attached to a Fedora 33 machine)
[10:21] <mario60> when I try 'Try Ubuntu without installing', I get a warning that :
[10:21] <mario60> WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted.
[10:21] <mario60> The partition tables of the following devices are changed:
[10:21] <mario60>  SCSI4 (0,0,0) (sdc)
[10:21] <mario60> The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[10:22] <mario60>  LVM VG fedora, LV swap as swap    <<<<<<?????
[10:22] <mario60>  partition #1 of SCSI4 (0,0,0) (sdc) as ext4
[10:52] <Kolusion> Is there a command in 20.04 LTS to see open ports, like 'netstat -a' in Windows or what ever it is?
[10:54] <Kolusion> Look's like I'll be installing net-tools then...
[10:57] <qskwood> ss
[10:58] <qskwood> net-tools has been deprecated for a decade nwo
[10:58] <qskwood> there's almost never a reason to install it
[10:58] <qskwood> https://support.f5.com/csp/article/K13986052
[10:59] <qskwood> or https://access.redhat.com/sites/default/files/attachments/rh_ip_command_cheatsheet_1214_jcs_print.pdf
[11:11] <klausfiend> wait, netstat is deprecated? lol
[11:32] <vaio> yeah, it's ss now
[11:33] <tarzeau> klausfiend: together with ifconfig (ip now)
[11:33] <vaio> oh, nvm.
[11:33] <tarzeau> although some still install the old ones and use them
[11:33] <Kolusion> Thanks for all of that info people. I will check it out soon
[11:34] <Kolusion> My POS computer is busy
[11:43] <mihaiadrian> is there any rss reader in which i can push desktop notifications for new items from specific feeds i choose? i could script something like that, but i'm wondering if it's any existing solution
[11:49] <Kolusion> Thanks for those links about ss replacing netstat
[11:49] <qskwood> klausfiend, https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00780.html
[11:50] <qskwood> TL;DR The process began in early 2009
[11:51] <Kolusion> Is it just me or does the man page for 'ip' suck? It says there is the option '-a' but when I use it like 'ip -a' it doesn't work, but 'ip a' does.
[11:51] <qskwood> They're completely different arguments
[11:51] <Kolusion> Let me see......
[11:51] <qskwood> -a iterates your command over all objects available
[11:52] <Kolusion> Yes I see. I can't find anything for just 'a' though..
[11:53] <qskwood> That's because "a" isn't really a command
[11:53] <qskwood> ip is just smart enough to infer what you mean
[11:53] <Kolusion> It is, 'ip' and 'ip a' produce different results
[11:53] <qskwood> `ip a` will work
[11:53] <qskwood> so will `ip addr`
[11:54] <Kolusion> The man page just sucks.
[11:54] <qskwood> so will `ip addres` (missing an s)
[11:54] <qskwood> The man page is fine
[11:54] <Kolusion> If it was fine, 'a' would be defined. It's not.
[11:54] <qskwood> It is defined
[11:54] <qskwood> the command is `address`
[11:54] <qskwood> you are simply free to abbreviate it
[11:54] <qskwood> There is no "a" command
[11:54] <Kolusion> No, it's not documented.
[11:54] <qskwood> It's documented fine
[11:54] <Kolusion> If there was no command, it wouldn't work.
[11:54] <Kolusion> Where is it documented?
[11:55] <qskwood> It is a command, you are simply free to abbreviate it
[11:55] <qskwood> It's a pretty common concept
[11:55] <qskwood> see Cisco IOS for example
[11:55] <Kolusion> Not to me.
[11:55] <qskwood> as long as what you type isn't ambiguous the program will assume what you're trying to do
[11:55] <Kolusion> Dangerous
[11:55] <qskwood> It's not dangerous at all
[11:56] <qskwood> If you want to use the full object you still can
[11:56] <Kolusion> LOL I wouldn't like 'rm' to assume what I am trying to do.
[11:56] <qskwood> That's not an apples to apples comparison
[11:57] <qskwood> Each of the iproute2 object names can be shortened to the shortest unique set of characters. This means that ip route show can be abbreviated ip ro s and ip rule show can be abbreviated ip ru s. Also ip address show can be ip a s.
[11:58] <Kolusion> The assumption is the user knows that know.
[11:58] <qskwood> No it's not
[11:58] <qskwood> the documentation clearly uses full object names
[11:58] <qskwood> Nowhere does the man page suggest you abbreviate
[11:58] <qskwood> it's an advanced usage.
[11:58] <Kolusion> I didn't even know there was an object.
[11:58] <qskwood> You'd know if you ran `ip` with no arguments
[11:59] <qskwood> it clearly tells you "Usage: ip [ OPTIONS ] OBJECT { COMMAND | help }"
[11:59] <qskwood> object is the only mandatory argument
[11:59] <Kolusion> I just ran it and see the word address, but what the function doesn't is not explained.
[11:59] <qskwood> Sure it does
[12:00] <qskwood> address is the object, the commands are listed in the next section of the man page
[12:00] <Kolusion> Yes
[12:00] <Kolusion> I got lucky, 'ip a' worked how I wanted it to anyway.
[12:00] <Kolusion> My planets are aligning
[12:00] <Kolusion> LMFAO
[12:02] <Kolusion> Thanks for that clarification
[12:06] <Kolusion> So I have a service 'pptpd' running, a VPN server. I don't suppose anyone knows how I can use 'ss' to confirm which ports it is using? 'ss -a' gives me a life story.
[12:09] <Kolusion> All good
[12:11] <Kolusion> God they could have designed 'ss' better. Line breaks aren't a bad thing!
[12:14] <Kolusion> BRB
[12:15] <drehanders> hallo
[12:20] <Kolusion> Is there a way to search a man page for a string of text?
[12:22] <Kolusion> Can port GRE be added to UFW?
[12:22] <Kolusion> I mean, to allow port GRE.
[12:31] <KBar> Kolusion press /
[12:31] <KBar> Then type your string.
[12:31] <KBar> it's case-sensitive
[12:32] <Kolusion> Thanks KBar
[12:32] <Kolusion> So I have a PPTP VPN server and a PPTP VPN client. The PPTP server uses port 1723 and GRE. The client's computer has a UFW firewall. When the firewall is disabled, the client connect fine. When it is enabled, it starts the connection to the server, but then then the connection times out after 30 seconds. The server reports "LCP: timeout sending
[12:32] <Kolusion> Config-Requests". I suspect this has something to do with GRE and UFW on the client side. Anyone know how to fix this?
[12:33] <KBar> Kolusion use n to go forward and N (shift+n) to go backwards
[12:33] <TJ-> man is using the default pager which is generally 'less'
[12:33] <KBar> Kolusion "?" (shift+/) will search the document backwards
[12:34] <qskwood> To see listening TCP sockets, you use `ss -l`
[12:35] <KBar> Kolusion searching for gre is ufw's manpage, this is the 4th result: ufw allow in on eth0 to 192.168.0.1 proto gre
[12:35] <KBar>        This will allow all gre traffic to 192.168.0.1 on the eth0 interface.
[12:35] <KBar> *in ufw's
[12:36] <Kolusion> KBAR, yes I saw that. I was hoping for an easier answer. I will try it now.
[12:37] <qskwood> On the server end you can include "silent" in /etc/ppp/options
[12:37] <Kolusion> qskwood. Cool. What does that do?
[12:38] <qskwood> One source quotes: "With this option, pppd will not transmit LCP packets to initiate a connection until a valid LCP packet is received from the peer (as for the "passive" option with old versions of pppd)."
[12:38] <Kolusion> SWEET - AS
[12:38] <qskwood> Other suggestions include loading the conntrack module on the server.
[12:39] <Kolusion> That doesn't work; tried it.
[12:39] <qskwood> nf_conntrack_pptp should pull in nf_conntrack_gre
[12:39] <qskwood> if it doesn't it may be worth manually doing it
[12:39] <Kolusion> nf_conntrack_gre doesn't exist in 20.04 LTS.
[12:39] <qskwood> AH
[12:39] <Kolusion> Obselete apparently I read.
[12:40] <Kolusion> No one likes PPTP LOL
[12:40] <qskwood> Well it's a pretty bad protocol
[12:40] <Kolusion> Yeah
[12:40] <qskwood> "it's the only one that works" is usually not true for deprecated stuff
[12:41] <qskwood> at least not years after deprecation
[12:41] <Kolusion> I am using it with application end-to-end encryption, so it's broken ciphers don't bother me.
[12:41] <Kolusion> I tried every other VPN server software out there, none of them worked.
[12:41] <Gallomimia> deprecated generally means something better replaced it
[12:41] <Gallomimia> or more like "something we think is better"
[12:41] <qskwood> "none of them worked"
[12:41] <qskwood> in what way did they not work?
[12:42] <Gallomimia> ah, pretty sure that means "none of them worked *FOR YOU*"
[12:42] <Kolusion> In, I followed the documentation on how to set it up and it didn't work.
[12:42] <qskwood> Yeah that doesn't really mean a bad solution is the next logical step
[12:42] <qskwood> It means fixing what's breaking is the next logical step
[12:43] <qskwood> (because now you're fixing what's breaking AND using a bad solution both)
[12:43] <Gallomimia> ah. it's pretty safe to assume the VPN software's manuals are both hard to understand and difficult to complete
[12:43] <Gallomimia> more safe to understand there's a disconnect between the manual and the user than the software and your hardware.
[12:44] <Kolusion> The one I read is wrong in instructions and stylised hopelessly.
[12:44] <Kolusion> https://openvpn.net/community-resources/openvpn-quickstart/
[12:44] <qskwood> You can use whatever you want, but personally I'd rather help someone configure OpenVPN or Wireguard to their needs than L2TP etc
[12:44] <Gallomimia> probably more useful to try fixing that manual than switch to a less robust product
[12:44] <Kolusion> I just got disconnected for 15 seconds
[12:44] <Gallomimia> probably more useful to try fixing that manual than switch to a less robust product
[12:45] <qskwood> Was your connection reset by Pierre?
[12:45] <qskwood> screw Pierre tbh
[12:45] <Kolusion> I contacted OpenVPN, after sending my message, the website said the message was not received. Then I received an e-mail that said to sign-up and send the message again. lol. Then I tried their forum, upon signing up, the forum could not be found.
[12:46] <Kolusion> Look a step 1 'Static Key Mini-HOWTO'
[12:46] <Kolusion> https://openvpn.net/community-resources/static-key-mini-howto/
[12:46] <qskwood> I guess I'm a little confused
[12:46] <qskwood> if a howto that straightforward doesn't work it's probably something people other than you would have noticed by now
[12:46] <Kolusion> Commands and instructions on changing configuration files are stylised the same. It took me 20 minutes to figure it out.
[12:47] <Kolusion> But then it didn't work anyway, I gave up and went to Poptop
[12:47] <Kolusion> No, OpenVPN just sucks.
[12:47] <Kolusion> Try the instructions yourself.
[12:47] <Kolusion> It doesn't work
[12:47] <qskwood> Maybe not.
[12:47] <Kolusion> This is probably why PPTP is still the most common VPN protocol, it just works.
[12:48] <Gallomimia> it's extremely arrogant to believe that just because you can't get it working the software sucks and no one should use it.
[12:48] <Kolusion> It's got nothing to do with arrogance, it's a fact. Follow the instructions step-by-step and you will see for yourself.
[12:48] <qskwood> I would suggest that if you're getting disconnected from any server every 15 seconds it's probably a network problem.
[12:49] <qskwood> OpenVPN is pretty widely used.
[12:49] <Kolusion> It says "server configuration file" but fails to mention where it is located.
[12:49] <Kolusion> No I mean't I got disconnected from this Libera chat for 15 seconds... incase someone replied to something I had said.
[12:49] <Gallomimia> perhaps the instructions are less than forthcoming. perhaps there's another problem causing issues. but to say that a piece of software used by millions of people "just sucks" is everything to do with arrogance
[12:50] <qskwood> The location of configuration files changes with every system.
[12:50] <Kolusion> Well, my experience is it sucks. I can only go by my experience with it.
[12:50] <qskwood> It's not really the job of the documentation team to specify it for every system out there.
[12:51] <qskwood> They could give one or two examples, but really it's likely in /etc/openvpn on a Linux system.
[12:51] <Gallomimia> and that's the definition of arrogance. so, i think you need to adjust your attitude if you want some help
[12:51] <Kolusion> qskwood, yeah, that would have been good to know 3 weeks ago.
[12:51] <Kolusion> I don't use a 'Linux system'. I use Ubuntu. Not every Linux system is the same.
[12:52] <Gallomimia> this does raise an important point however. whose responsibility is it to document where the configs are? the package maintainer for ubuntu?
[12:52] <Kolusion> Different distros have different file locations.
[12:52] <qskwood> 99% of Linux systems place configuration data in /etc
[12:52] <Kolusion> I didn't know that.
[12:52] <Kolusion> It assumed.
[12:52] <Kolusion> Dangerous to assume.
[12:52] <qskwood> If you had searched for OpenVPN Ubuntu 20.04, for example, you would have found where the configuration file goes in the first result.
[12:52] <Gallomimia> it is. and it's a problem not limited to openvpn
[12:52] <Kolusion> Bad documentation is a really bad thing in FOSS projects.
[12:52] <qskwood> This is just stuff you need to learn over time.
[12:53] <qskwood> Research, flexibility, patience
[12:53] <Gallomimia> learn from where tho?
[12:53] <Kolusion> I tried learning it, I followed the instructions, they didn't make sense, I moved on.
[12:53] <qskwood> That's fair
[12:53] <Kolusion> My tinkering days are long over.
[12:53] <Gallomimia> well, if it concerns you that much, put some effort into fixing the docs
[12:54] <qskwood> I'm just saying if you want to get stuff done you have to primary options: do it yourself or have someone else do it for you
[12:54] <Kolusion> Gallomimia: Tried that, when I contacted OpenVPN, it said my message wasn't received, and to then e-mail it to them. lol wtf
[12:54] <Gallomimia> the latter option does not lead to freedom
[12:54] <Gallomimia> the method of contact you need is probably to submit a pull request with the corrections in the docs
[12:54] <Kolusion> https://support.openvpn.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
[12:55] <Kolusion> I used the official contact point.
[12:55] <Kolusion> Gallomimia: Freedom?
[12:55] <Gallomimia> sigh. yeah if the website doesn't even have accurate contact information..
[12:56] <qskwood> There are three emails listed on their site: sales, press, and security
[12:56] <Kolusion> It's not that it didn't have accurate contact informaton, the form accepts your message and then says it's not delivered, then you get an e-mail saying to sign-up and send it. Then two days later someone does response to you anyway. lol they really haven't got their shit together.
[12:56] <qskwood> Massive enterprises don't usually want emails requesting support
[12:56] <Gallomimia> none of which applies to fixing the docs
[12:57] <Gallomimia> also, expecting a product that costs you nothing to "have their shit together" is probably asking too much
[12:57] <Kolusion> Gallomimia: True, but that is not why I tried contacting them. I didn't bother fixing the docs because I am not going to waste my time fixing a product for a company that doesn't have it's shit together.
[12:57] <Gallomimia> very much likely they're spending their limited resources on paying customers, if they have any
[12:58] <Kolusion> Gallomimia: Sure, that's business.
[12:58] <Gallomimia> alright. well maybe you shouldn't use ubuntu either?
[12:58] <Kolusion> Gallomimia: Why?
[12:58] <qskwood> For one thing you seem to hate the idea of putting any effort into achieving your goals.
[12:58] <Gallomimia> another free product. the support you're receiving now is provided by volunteers, not anyone from the company
[12:58] <Kolusion> qskwood: Not at all, I achieved my goal. I have a working VPN server.
[12:58] <qskwood> You'd be better of running something like RHEL and paying a vendor to set stuff up for you.
[12:59] <Kolusion> Gallomimia: Yes, but Canonical have their shit together.
[12:59] <Gallomimia> ubuntu also has paid support
[12:59] <qskwood> LMAO
[12:59] <Gallomimia> they do NOT in fact have it together.
[12:59] <qskwood> Canonical is not exactly a poster child
[12:59] <Kolusion> qskwood: To a degree ;)
[12:59] <Kolusion> hahahaha
[12:59] <qskwood> They screw up just like anyone else
[13:00] <Gallomimia> have you tried looking for an irc channel like this one, but for openvpn?
[13:00] <Kolusion> qskwood: I can set things up fine, if I have documentation that actually makes sense.
[13:00] <Kolusion> Gallomimia: Nah, I moved on from OpenVPN to Poptop. Poptop worked.
[13:00] <qskwood> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/service-openvpn
[13:01] <Kolusion> Poptop's documentation was bad too, but it made sense and I put effort into it.
[13:01] <Kolusion> Poptop's documentation is comments in configuration files. lol
[13:02] <qskwood> If you want to use an 8 year old VPN server that's fine
[13:02] <Kolusion> It's much older than eight years.
[13:02] <Kolusion> This thing is ancient.
[13:02] <Gallomimia> probably secure then
[13:02] <qskwood> Haha I'm just talking about their last release.
[13:02] <Kolusion> Ah yeah :D
[13:02] <Gallomimia> it's not like moore's law applies to crypto
[13:03] <Kolusion> I'll be back. I am going to try your suggestions about UFW
[13:03] <Kolusion> Everyones
[13:03] <no_gravity> Hello! After I installed KDE on Ubuntu, the clipboard behaves wonky (sometimes does not copy). Could it be that now 2 clipboards are running or something?
[13:04] <qskwood> I guess I was wrong. The Ubuntu package maintainer last updated the package in early 2018.
[13:04] <Gallomimia> that could just mean a tweak to fit into current systems. like updating the service definition to fit with systemd
[13:05] <qskwood> Anyway I think I've expressed my position
[13:06] <qskwood> I don't mean to beat a dead horse
[13:06] <Gallomimia> i think he left
[13:06] <Gallomimia> now it's time to talk about KDE clipboards. i know nothing about this
[13:09] <Kolusion> So I added 'silent' to '/etc/ppp/options.pptpd' and restarted the VPN server service, then I reversed that change and then added 'silent' to '/etc/ppp/options' and restarted the VPN server service, neither of those things worked.
[13:10] <Kolusion> Was that what you wanted me to do qskwood?
[13:10] <qskwood> Yeah I'd hoped that would resolve the issue
[13:10] <Kolusion> Nah, thanks for trying anyway. I will try the next idea.
[13:11] <Kolusion> KBar: 'ufw allow in on eth0 to 192.168.0.1 proto gre' << Do you know if a NIC can be used instead of an IP address?
[13:12] <Kolusion> KBar: Can I just use 'ufw allow in on eth0 proto gre'?
[13:12] <Kolusion> I will try it...
[13:15] <Kolusion> Holy shit, it worked!
[13:15] <Kolusion> Thanks KBar. Awesome person!
[13:16] <KBar> You're welcome. Man pages are a blessing.
[13:16] <KBar> You just need to be patient and read them very carefully. :)
[13:17] <Kolusion> KBar: I'm a goose! I saw that the other day, and even had it up on my screen when you mentioned it. I think I was having trouble else where at the time I tried it.
[13:17] <Kolusion> KBar: Yeah man pages can be pretty good
[13:17] <Kolusion> KBar: I use to hate them, not so much anymore. They are my go-to.
[13:19] <Kolusion> KBar you have made my life easier mate
[13:20] <Kolusion> Gallomimia: I have contributed to GNU coreutils. If I was to reveal my name you would probably find it in your computer if you did a 'cat' scan for it. lol
[13:21] <Kolusion> Gallomimia: I contributed to it's documentation for Ubuntu instructions.
[13:21] <KBar> Glad that I could help.
[13:21] <Kolusion> Gallomimia: Kind of ironic given Ubuntu is not a recognised GNU/Linux system.
[13:22] <Kolusion> Gallomimia: 'Officially recognised'..... just in case you want to pull me up on that one.
[13:41] <Gallomimia> Kolusion, ah that's great then. wonderful to hear. also it's not GNU, they've been making serious efforts to rewrite the entire system and duck away from GPL
[13:49] <pikapika> GPL is amazing
[14:02] <Kolusion> Good. I dislike GPL
[14:03] <Kolusion> It is the number 1 cause of fragmentation
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Kolusion
[14:04] <Kolusion> lotuspsychje are you one of those draining FOSS retards that kills it?
[14:05] <Kolusion> I've seen a couple of you lot in here.
[14:05] <Kolusion> I will be over in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:11] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:14] <oerheks> hi BluesKaj
[14:17] <BluesKaj> hi oerheks
[15:02] <linsux> skype repo always expire and unable to update
[15:02] <linsux> how do i reinstall it
[15:02] <linsux> delete old one and reinstall new one
[15:03] <oerheks> skype repo ?
[15:03] <linsux> yah
[15:03] <linsux> linux skype
[15:04] <oerheks> we do not support 3rd party repos, i kow skype is available as snap https://snapcraft.io/skype
[15:05] <oerheks> ms does provide a .deb on https://www.skype.com/en/get-skype/ but good luck with that
[15:09] <linsux> how do i delete certificate
[15:09] <linsux> snap don't save password
[15:09] <linsux> everytime need to type password
[15:09] <linsux> ms deb pack won't
[15:11] <oerheks> if that propietary software does nowwork, use your browser?
[15:31] <jemark> linsux: you can try https://meetfranz.com/
[15:33] <jemark> linsux: which will auto-login (save password) for me
[15:33] <oerheks> commercial alternative for a propietary blob, hilarious
[15:35] <jemark> oerheks: lol, I fully agree.
[15:35] <shanmukh> how do i install wifi driver on ubuntu
[15:36] <jemark> linsux: use signal, irc for help and see people face-to-face ;-)
[15:36] <oerheks> !wifi
[15:36] <oerheks> as a start, shanmukh
[15:36] <shanmukh> sudo apt install git dkms
[15:36] <shanmukh> git clone https://github.com/aircrack-ng/rtl8812au.git
[15:36] <shanmukh> cd rtl8812au
[15:36] <shanmukh> sudo make dkms_install
[15:37] <oerheks> find out what wifidevice, on what ubuntu version ..
[15:37] <shanmukh> those commands used in termianal
[15:37] <shanmukh> what should i do after that
[15:38] <shanmukh> realtel rtl8812au on ubuntu 20.04
[15:38] <oerheks> i am not sure that aircrack repo is the right one..
[15:38] <oerheks> !info rtl8812au-dkms focal
[15:39] <oerheks> it is in our repos..
[15:39] <shanmukh> currently i have realtek rtl8188eus cd how do i install using that
[15:39] <oerheks> rtl8188eus <> rtl8812au
[15:40] <shanmukh> rtl8188eus
[15:40] <oerheks> .. interesting, you atarted with an other RTL chip
[15:41] <shanmukh> yeah i bought that cd from store how do i install using that cd
[15:41] <oerheks> not. it is not suitable for 8812
[15:42] <shanmukh> okkk leave thatt 8812
[15:42] <oerheks> i showed you that the right dkms is already in our repos, use that
[15:42] <shanmukh> can you tell step by step
[15:45] <shanmukh> oerheks text me
[15:53] <qskwood> People have already explained it to you several times.
[15:53] <qskwood> I'm not sure why you won't just try.
[15:55] <qskwood> Also you previously gave me the USB ID for a rtl8188fu, then claimed it was a rtl8188eus
[15:55] <qskwood> Which of the three is it?
[16:00] <oerheks> uh oh, weird
[16:00] <oerheks> lsusb output in a pastebin please
[16:03] <jemark> !hwe
[16:04] <jemark> using 20.04 (5.8 kernel) should enable the rtl88xx wifi :-)
[16:11] <jemark> correction: check apt list, using: linux-lowlatency-hwe-20.04/focal-security,focal-updates,now 5.11.0.38.42~20.04.17 amd64 [installed]
[16:18] <pep> salve
[16:18] <pep> xdcc list
[16:31] <matthewcroughan_> Does anybody know how to force the Linux kernel to boot in Long Mode for a 64 Bit processor that the BIOS lies about being 32 bit? I have an intel n2600 and it supports 32 bit, but the BIOS lies about it and the kernel therefore fails to boot. Ubuntu and Alpine linux both boot successfully in 64 bit mode, for some reason, probably because they patched their kernels.
[16:32] <leftyfb> matthewcroughan_: so you have no problem with ubuntu?
[16:32] <oerheks> intel n2600 , on what hardware?
[16:32] <matthewcroughan_> leftyfb: seems to be, but I'm looking for the patch that Ubuntu made to Linux that made the kernel stop checking whether the processor is 64 bit.
[16:32] <oerheks> some cheap laptops are 32 bit UEFI only..
[16:33] <matthewcroughan_> oerheks: It's too old for UEFI
[16:33] <leftyfb> matthewcroughan_: you should probably try #linux then
[16:33] <matthewcroughan_> HP Mini 110-4100
[16:33] <matthewcroughan_> leftyfb: ?, the patch that Ubuntu MAY have is unique to Ubuntu, nothing to do with pure Linux
[16:34] <matthewcroughan_> I have asked there anyway, thank you.
[16:37] <jhutchins> There have been numerous projects to develop a linux distribution specifically to run on old, obsolete hardware, but they keep dying out as the hardware they're being developed on and for fails.
[16:38] <matthewcroughan_> jhutchins: distribution in my view doesn't matter, I'm just wondering how it is that I am able to boot in 64 bit mode on Ubuntu/Alpine
[16:39] <matthewcroughan_> Maybe it's netboot.xyz that is doing it, since it loads an initial kernel that might ignore the motherboard's bogus data.
[16:39] <oerheks> i wanted to ask what distros do not boot, as i don't know of any patch to force 64 bit
[16:39] <matthewcroughan_> I am booting these things from netboot.xyz, so this may be something I have discovered by accident, I will flash to a USB stick to find out.
[16:39] <matthewcroughan_> Maybe it uses a kexec to do it.. not really sure how netboot.xyz works.
[16:41] <matthewcroughan_> It seems to be that netboot.xyz skips the bootloader.
[16:41] <matthewcroughan_> So maybe that's it. The bootloader must need to be modified to stop telling the kernel that it's a 32 bit processor incorrectly
[16:43] <matthewcroughan_> syslinux
[16:43] <oerheks> so, it is not an ubuntu issue at all?
[16:43] <kostkon> matthewcroughan_, what Ubuntu version, just for the record
[16:43] <oerheks> ubuntu boots fine, he says
[16:43] <matthewcroughan_> oerheks: from netboot.xyz, about to check via USB
[16:43] <leftyfb> matthewcroughan_: maybe try #ubuntu-kernel
[17:10] <VIA> shalom fellow martians
[17:12] <VIA> does brave-browser have a channel here ?
[17:13] <VIA> on libera i mean
[17:14] <octav1a> Hello all, I'm trying to use webGPU on some browser. Starting with chrome, but I've also tried chrome dev edition and chromium and firefox. I enable the relevant webGPU flags and try to use https://webkit.org/demos/webgpu/hello-triangle.html  ; I see errors in the console: "WebGPU on Linux requires command-line flag --enable-features=Vulkan,UseSkiaRenderer" (which I've done) and "Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading '
[17:14] <octav1a> requestDevice')" . I also see in the terminal "Warning: Couldn't open libvulkan.so.1"
[17:15] <octav1a> $ locate libvulkan.so.1 gives many results.
[17:15] <octav1a> I've tried including onf of them in $PATH and $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[17:15] <octav1a> So I'm guessing it's a problem with the library that is supressed instead os just hte file not existing.
[17:16] <octav1a> Any suggestions?
[17:33] <leftyfb> octav1a: libvulkan.so.1 can be found as part of the libvulkan1 package
[17:33] <leftyfb> !alis | VIA
[17:35] <octav1a> leftyfb: again based on the error I'm thinking that the libvulkan file is found, but there is some further issue in interfacing with it.
[17:36] <leftyfb> octav1a: maybe try the snap version of firefox
[17:38] <octav1a> leftyfb: I'm trying with the nightly version of firefox too.
[17:40] <octav1a> All of the links under https://webkit.org/demos/webgpu/ seem to give different errors in the console.
[17:59] <oerheks> chrome://gpu/ would show all, and clipboard function to share
[18:02] <davidochobits> Hi
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> welcome davidochobits
[18:14] <jemark> octav1a: https://browserleaks.com/webgl
[18:17] <octav1a> jemark: how should I share this?
[18:17] <octav1a> IT looks like it only tests webGL, not webGPU
[18:26] <Hanii> Are there any docks available for Gnome that have support for Mac OS-style docks/folders?
[18:26] <Hanii> *stacks/folders, sorry
[18:27] <coz_> Hanii, if you are on gnome I am not sure, I know cairo dock doesnt work well with gnome unfortunately unless someone has found a fix
[18:27] <coz_> Hanii, I assume you are using gnome DE?
[18:28] <Hanii> Yep. I've tried Cairodock, but it doesn't seem to work well for me
[18:29] <coz_> Hanii, right another donside of gnome DE %(
[18:29] <coz_> downside
[18:29] <coz_> Hanii, cairo dock works well with MATE DE and I beleive  xfce as well
[18:29] <Hanii> I tried Latte in KDE and it sort-of has what I want, but a) that's with KDE and b) the folder view for that is absolutely tiny with no obvious way to make it bigger
[18:30] <coz_> Hanii, right, as I said, gnome has quite a few deficiencies in my experience
[18:32] <coz_> kde is "ok" and cairo dock works well with it if you log off and start it with x11
[18:33] <coz_> Hanii, ^^^^
[18:33] <oerheks> dash to dock  https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-customize-dock-panel-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[18:33] <Hanii> I started off trying to use KDE, but I ran into a few problems, including the entire desktop environment breaking after I ran a fullscreen game.
[18:33] <coz_> cairo dock is still being updated
[18:34] <coz_> Hanii, ooo I havent tried that as of yet
[18:35] <Hanii> @oerheks: I don't see anything there about folders/stacks?
[18:36] <coz_> Hanii,  yeah cairo dock is the most desirable but not ongnome or wayland for that matter
[18:38] <coz_> Hanii,  I have tried most docks, non compare to cairo dock however
[18:38] <coz_> what happened to kiba dock??? %)
[18:39] <Hanii> I've written software, but never specifically linux software - I wonder how hard it would be to make my own.
[18:40] <Hanii> It's looking like the last commit to Kiba Dock was in 2009
[18:40] <coz_> Hanii, I wish I knew how to contact Fabounet, the creator of cairo dock. I know him fairly well and I am sure he could help with that, but I havent seen him in a few years
[18:41] <coz_> Hanii,  the code for cairo dock is open source!
[18:44] <coz_> Hanii, https://glx-dock.org/ww_page.php?p=The%20team&lang=en  I ma near the bottom, also  https://glx-dock.org/ww_page.php?p=Documentation&lang=en
[18:46] <Hanii> If I were to do anything, I'd probably use Plank's source as a reference rather than Cairo dock's - it seems to behave better for me (albeit missing features I want), seems smaller in scope while getting something working, and the language it's in looks familiar to my C# eyes.
[18:46] <coz_> Hanii,  sounds excellent, I wish you luck %)
[18:47] <coz_> Hanii,  if you do create a dock that works well with wayland, post it please  %)
[18:47] <Hanii> It wouldn't be for a while, but I will if I do
[18:47] <deksar> When I try to install nginx, apt-get gives me: Version: 1.18.0-0ubuntu1.2 - I'd like to install the latest mainline version (1.21.x), any way to do this by apt-get?
[18:48] <coz_> Hanii,  excellent %)
[18:49] <coz_> deksar, does this help?  https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/nginx
[18:49] <deksar> coz_: Nope, same version.
[18:50] <coz_> deksar, ooo sorry
[18:50] <coz_> deksar,  have you gone to the web site?
[18:50] <deksar> Yes
[18:50] <coz_> no luck?
[18:51] <deksar> coz_: What are difference between  Bionic  Focal  Hirsute  Impish   releases?
[18:52] <coz_> deksar, that I couldnt tell you %(
[18:52] <coz_> deksar, versions and updates
[18:53] <coz_> deksar,  what version do you get from the repo?
[18:53] <coz_> deksar, right now I am on Fedora 35 with version  1:1.20.1-8
[18:55] <coz_> be back
[19:03] <coz_> deksar, sorry I didnt see  version you already posted
[19:04] <coz_> my fault
[19:06] <coz_> I am generally distracted by many phone calls %(
[19:06] <tomreyn> deksar: the nginx project provide debian packages for ubuntu LTS releases - those will likely be newer than what is available in ubuntu - but make sure you  know what their support status is (we can only help with official packages) http://nginx.org/en/linux_packages.html#Ubuntu
[19:07] <tomreyn> 'official' meaning those provided by ubuntu
[19:09] <tomreyn> most of the time, it can be preferrable to go with what the latest ubuntu LTS offers, unless you explicitly need a newer nginx (why?).
[19:09] <tomreyn> deksar: and please don't cross-post, or when you do, announce that you did.
[19:17] <Guest56> Hello
[19:19] <Guest56> I have ubuntu laptop, raspberry pi, windows laptop and all them of are directly reachable via hostname over my network. Means I haven't done any change. Just connected on local LAN broadband. But my ubuntu virtual machine in vmware workstation is not reachable via hostname. Can anyone help on this please.
[19:20] <Guest56> I even installed a window server 2012 on vmware and that is also reachable over the network. But ubuntu in a VMware machine is not reachable. No idea why
[19:21] <deksar> tomreyn: I'm sorry. Never again.
[19:22] <deksar> Is it safe to add repositories to the system, like: ppa:ondrej/nginx-mainline? Who maintains these? Do Ubuntu Team control/verify their packages?
[19:22] <oerheks> Guest56, sounds like a vmware/vsphere issue
[19:24] <Guest56> oerheks, but that has to be with windows server as well. I have used easy install while installing ubuntu and windows both. One discrepancy I have seen is that when I open my router admin page then in show clients section all of my machines are showing like this hostname--ipaddress. Means both are showing. But for that ubuntu vm machine router is
[19:24] <Guest56> showing only ip adress
[19:25] <Guest56> This the discrepancy I have seen. I have tried with network analyzer as well on my phone. It is also showing the hostname and ipaddress of  all the machines connected on the broadband. But for that ubuntu vm machine it only shows ipaddress.
[19:25] <sarnold> deksar: whoever 'owns' those ppas has full root access on your computer
[19:25] <sarnold> deksar: you must trust that person *completely*
[19:26] <deksar> sarnold: Are you kidding me?
[19:26] <sarnold> deksar: nope. that's the way things work. the maintainer scripts in debian packages run as full root with no sandboxing or access restrictions, because they sometimes need to do *anything* and *everything*
[19:28]  * deksar back to OpenBSD/FreeBSD
[19:28] <deksar> That was my shortest Linux adventure - thanks for all.
[19:29] <sudorm> hi, can I install certbot without snap, but regular "apt install"?
[19:30] <Guest56> any suggestions pelase??
[19:31] <oerheks> Guest56, still think it is a vmware issue, lots of them are solved in 7 https://partnerweb.vmware.com/programs/guestOS/guest-os-customization-matrix.pdf
[19:32] <leftyfb> sudorm: did you try?
[19:32] <Guest56> so there is no way to resolve?
[19:33] <Guest56> this networking thing?
[19:33] <leftyfb> Guest56: grep -v -- "#" /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:34] <sudorm> leftyfb, the official way recommends "snap install ..." and discourage to use apt install. why ? https://certbot.eff.org/lets-encrypt/ubuntufocal-apache
[19:35] <sarnold> deksar: ask around how the ports work in the BSDs :) ask if they have maintainer scripts, ask if there are any restrictions on the paths that they can install files into..
[19:35] <leftyfb> sudorm: ok, then ask the eff about their recommendations
[19:35] <sarnold> deksar: you've got to go to new packaging formats like snap to get sandboxed maintainer scripts and restrictions on where files can be installed
[19:36] <leftyfb> sudorm: I'm going to guess it's because they can more easily maintain the snap than they can the deb package
[19:36] <sudorm> leftyfb, i usually avoid to use many different package managers, and never used snap. is it really good?
[19:37] <oerheks> as snapd is standard installed, yes
[19:37] <leftyfb> sudorm: it works fine for my needs. It's also built into ubuntu so it's not like you're installing some 3rd party solution
[19:37] <Guest56> leftyfb, nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin.com" port 9999: Name or service not known
[19:38] <leftyfb> Guest56: you don't have your networking setup properly on the guest.
[19:38] <leftyfb> Guest56: I'm going to guess you don't have the guest setup with a bridged interface
[19:39] <oerheks> or no dns..
[19:40] <Guest56> I've just installed the OS. Didn't touch anything else. Could you please suggest some steps..
[19:40] <Guest56> leftyfb would be really thankful
[19:41] <oerheks> 5.39.93.71 >> grep -v -- "#" /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf | nc 5.39.93.71  9999
[19:43]  * oerheks watching kernelupdate 5.13.0-21
[19:44] <Guest56> Ok I ran the sudo dhclient command and then the pervious command. Its giving me the output now https://termbin.com/d8mc
[19:44] <Guest56> But still not accessible via hostname
[19:46] <leftyfb> Guest56: what ip address does it have?
[20:05] <leptone> Any vscode wizards in the building? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/69889319/vscode-settings-cannot-edit-in-read-only-editor
[20:07] <sarnold> leptone: you'll probably do better to ask for help in an OS X community
[20:07] <leptone> sarnold: good call, thx! do you know of one on Libra?
[20:08] <sarnold> no, sorry
[20:09] <leftyfb> leptone: maybe try #vscode
[20:30] <VectorX> Hi, I have a GCP ubuntu VM, it has gone into the following mode and I cant login, basically out of disk space, You are in emergency mode. After logging in, type "journalctl -xb" to view system logs, "systemctl reboot" to reboot, "systemctl default" or "exit" [Nov/08/2021 15:28] * Topic is 'Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: https://ubottu.com/y/gl | #ubuntu supports Ubuntu
[20:30] <VectorX> is there a way to access the machine to SSH in
[20:36] <leftyfb> VectorX: unlikely but that would be a question for GCP
[20:36] <leftyfb> VectorX: you'll need out of band/console access to the instance to clean up your disk space issues
[21:13] <andai> I'm getting the error that wasm-ld is not found. I do have /usr/bin/wasm-ld-10 -- shouldn't a symlink have been created by the lld package?
[21:14] <andai> I can make it myself but I assume that's not the intended workflow so I think I did something wrong
[21:30] <zetheroo> I have a problem with my /boot being too full for a kernel update to complete. I already tried purging old kernels, but this is also not freeing up enough space. I don't know what else to safely delete.
[21:31] <zetheroo> I don't want to reboot and end up with a system that won't boot ...
[21:33] <zetheroo> Here's some info https://pastebin.com/raw/QuvrvKE3
[21:33] <VectorX> leftyfb was able to sort it out, they have a serian port login
[21:49] <Guest96> did a quick format on the wrong drive (funny because i was setting up btrfs..) - how likely is it that testdisk will be able to recover most of the files? (NTFS drive)
[21:50] <gneeriiloeepdeer> Hi, Im extracting subtitles from mp4 files to attach the output as srt to mkv files. For that I now 'subtitld', but its a bit broken and it consumes way too much resources and the interface is not very friendly. And if I want to convert several subtitle stremas I have to restart the app each time I want to change source files... Is there any other app I can use? or a command? maybe ffmpeg? on 21.10
[21:54] <tomreyn> Guest96: meet its author on that question https://forum.cgsecurity.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=9824
[22:01] <Guest96> appreciate it tomreyn!
[22:11] <V|A> hy everyone! question, why cant i set the bg of a terminal after i set option to "open each new terminal with newbg.." ? also, is there a way to set  the palette of the new random terminals?
[22:11] <sarnold> what terminal?
[22:57] <V|A> sarnold: idk hw to find  the name? im on xfce
[22:59] <V|A> "terminal Emulator" peth to exec shows: exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator
[23:02] <sarnold> V|A: how about ps auxw ? does it show your terminal processes?
[23:07] <sebsebseb> hi
[23:44] <V|A> sarnold: it shows somthn not sure what oO
[23:46] <V|A> brb
[23:47] <VIA> re
[23:48] <Bashing-om> VIA: terminal command ' echo $TERM ' to see what terminal you are on :D
[23:57] <VIA> Bashing-om: xterm-256color
[23:57] <VIA> :D
[23:58] <Bashing-om> VIA: \o/