[00:00] <freetester> hi
[00:00] <freetester> someone here?
[00:00] <jkc> freetester: About a thousand people. Just ask your question. :)
[00:05] <sarnold> stiv2k: that should be easy :) mirrors are nice and flexible, it's perhaps a bit more expensive than raidz1 or raidz2, but if you want to add another two or four or six drives later on, that's pretty easy to do
[00:05] <sarnold> stiv2k: adding more storage to a raidzn pool is more complicated
[00:08] <stiv2k> sarnold: my friend says i should use truenas
[00:09] <sarnold> oh, freenas changed their name? heh
[00:10] <freetester> my configuration: 2 pcs
[00:10] <freetester> 1) Imac mid 2010
[00:10] <freetester> 2) Ubuntu
[00:10] <freetester> a second screen is connected to my mac
[00:10] <freetester> in total therefore 3 screens
[00:10] <freetester> I would like to be able to:
[00:11] <sarnold> stiv2k: I've heard good things about freenas folks before, it's probably a good choice. if "NAS System" sounds like something you'd be interested in, it's probably a good fit.
[00:12] <freetester> jkc: thanks!
[00:12] <sarnold> stiv2k: (it's a bit more capable than that, obviously, but as far as I can tell it's not like "here's a general purpose computer that you can do whatever you want with it")
[00:12] <sarnold> freetester: note that the bots figured your client had broken when you bursted five messages in one second
[00:13] <sarnold> freetester: so we didn't actually see your question
[00:15] <stiv2k> sarnold: he says he runs other services on it too
[00:15] <stiv2k> sarnold: as i had the same goal in mind, idk, maybe ill try it out
[00:15] <sarnold> stiv2k: probably via an app store kind of thing?
[00:15] <freetester> sarnold: ops thanks  i will try again
[00:15] <sarnold> stiv2k: can you just ssh in and install stuff?
[00:15] <stiv2k> i think so, i am not sure just yet :)
[00:16] <sarnold> stiv2k: cool cool
[00:16] <freetester> my configuration: 2 pcs
[00:16] <freetester> 1) Imac mid 2010
[00:16] <freetester> 2) Ubuntu
[00:16] <freetester> a second screen is connected to my mac
[00:16] <freetester> in total therefore 3 screens
[00:16] <freetester> I would like to be able to:
[00:16] <lantech19446> I don't get the reference in your nick stiv bators died in 1990
[00:16] <sarnold> freetester: hah, you did it again :) you can't blast a ton of messages all at once. try (a) writing more than three words per line (b) writing it by hand
[00:17] <freetester> my configuration: 2 pcs
[00:17] <freetester> 1) Imac mid 2010
[00:17] <freetester> 2) Ubuntu
[00:17] <freetester> a second screen is connected to my mac
[00:18] <freetester> in total therefore 3 screens
[00:18] <freetester> I would like to be able to:
[00:18] <freetester> 1) use the same keyboard and mouse on both PCs
[00:18] <Bashing-om> !flodding | freetester
[00:18] <freetester> 2) use imac and its second screen for ubuntu
[00:19] <freetester> I am looking for a solution through the use of a kvm switch but I cannot find the keystone ...
[00:19] <freetester> any idea or sugegstion, thanks in advance 4 any idea or suggestion
[00:22] <sarnold> freetester: I think that sounds like something the 'barrier' package can do -- check out the webpage https://github.com/debauchee/barrier and see if it makes sense
[00:27] <freetester> sarnold: thanks 4 your advice, i already read about barrier but unfortunately it doesnt work with display but only support mouse and keyboard
[00:28] <freetester> 4 this reason i was looking 4 some kind of congif with hw kvm
[00:28] <sarnold> freetester: ohhh :( dang
[00:28] <freetester> sarnold: yep :-P
[00:29] <freetester> it would great see imac as monitor of ubuntu XD
[00:29] <freetester> be great*
[00:36] <sarnold> freetester: you could do some vnc or rdp; I don't know much about those
[00:48] <user1> hello
[00:49] <sarnold> hi
[00:49] <user1> how do I edit a file in 21.10 as admin?
[00:50] <sarnold> user1: the sudoedit command is one popular way to do this
[00:52] <user1> another question. I have a WD My Cloud NAS and a Lexmark printer copier. Why is it that Ubuntu can, Right after install, see My Cloud on my network and scan and print with my Lexmark Printer, but all the other distros like Manjaro cannot. What is Unbuntu doing differently?
[00:54] <sarnold> user1: good question. I think the sane-airscan package is the starting point for scanning things -- this bug describes a lot of the context around scanning tools https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-airscan/+bug/1891682
[01:11] <ubuntu> hi
[01:11] <Guest4382> kmjnhmgbcgbgfbvb
[01:12] <Guest4382> I need help
[02:14] <sem> What is the preferred way to have a default ssh keypair automatically load into ssh?
[02:15] <witeshark2> holy shit
[02:16] <sem> I think it has to do with ssh-agent
[02:16] <sem> hi witeshark2 :)
[02:16] <witeshark2> automatically?
[02:16] <sarnold> sem: if you want a key without a password, I think you can do that
[02:17] <witeshark2> hi sem
[02:17] <witeshark2> Holy Shit
[02:17] <sem> I think you can too. It is making me consider making one without a passcode :)
[02:17] <witeshark2> TheRedQueen!
[02:18] <witeshark2> that's QUALITY!
[02:18] <sem> are you feeling alright buddy?
[02:18] <EdFletcher> sem: ssh will automatically use keypairs named to fit the format that are found in ~/.ssh/, e.g. ~/.ssh/id_rsa or ~/.ssh/id_ed25519
[02:18] <witeshark2> oh shit!
[02:18] <sarnold> witeshark2: please stop
[02:18] <witeshark2> i have to go ------ work
[02:19] <witeshark2> sarnold, who asked you?
[02:19] <sem> EdFletcher, do you know if I can have both an id_rsa and an id_ed25519?
[02:19] <coz_> witeshark2, we try NOT to use ANY prfaities
[02:19] <coz_> profanities
[02:20] <sarnold> and we also try to be useful and friendly
[02:20] <coz_> witeshark2, yes indeed, this is , afterall, a "support" channel not free for all
[02:21] <witeshark2> OMG if words have actaul POWER -- THEN! : the WORD Abracadabra will actually work!
[02:21] <witeshark2> think about it!
[02:21] <coz_> witeshark2, and if you are not careful, the word "kick" will also have power
[02:26] <EdFletcher> sem: yup you absolutely can, i do that too - you may need to use `-i` to explicitly specify which to use depending on the server config, but it absolutely works. in fact, you can have as many key pairs as you want in that folder and if they're _not_ named starting with `id` then they'll never be automatically used but will be available for use with
[02:26] <EdFletcher> `-i`
[02:26] <EdFletcher> (generally you want to use ed25519 keys when possible these days, but for example i have a couple ARM servers i login to that don't yet support ed25519 so i keep an RSA key alongside for those)
[02:27] <sem> That's what I was thinking too
[02:27] <sem> I am pretty inexperienced so I was originally copying a working key to all devices
[02:27] <sem> but now I'll start having one key per device as recommended
[02:27] <sem> so if I lose the device I can just revoke that key
[02:28] <sem> (I'm not exactly sure how to know which key to revoke, but... it's a learning adventure)
[02:28] <EdFletcher> "revoking" a key is just removing the entry from ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[02:28] <EdFletcher> there's no central authority for them, so it's just a matter of where you've put the public key as authorized
[02:30] <TJ-> if you're using a lot of keys it makes sense to setup and use a certificate authority so you don't need to move keys around
[02:31] <EdFletcher> true true
[02:36] <sem> Right now I'll only have about 4 devices and 4 keys. Can you comment in authorized_keys to help keep track which is which?
[02:44] <sarnold> sem: that's probably the default; try this: awk '{for (i=3; i<=NF; i++) { print $i;} }' ~/.ssh/id_*pub
[02:52] <sem> i can just look in there and see my keys. Right now I don't have any default keys, I just have an ed25519 key I named something custom, and a bunch of keys I copied there
[05:02] <coolchris> ubuntu us a fucking poece of shit fucking dumbasses say its good then when u install it all it does is suck worse then windows fuck u linux bitches
[05:03] <coolchris> trist me it shcks
[05:04] <coolchris> i installed it and then i couldnet even play my games easy
[05:04] <coolchris> fucking pos
[05:05] <coolchris> well have fun with ur shitty os byebye
[06:02] <webchat45> ubuntu 20.04; apparmor profile for firefox is blocking access to GPU
[06:02] <webchat45> with apparmor active:
[06:02] <webchat45> ~:$ firefox
[06:02] <webchat45> [GFX1-]: No GPUs detected via PCI
[06:02] <webchat45> [GFX1-]: glxtest: process failed (received signal 11)
[06:02] <webchat45> sudo aa-disable /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox
[06:04] <ravage> !paste | webchat45
[06:13] <webchat45> ubuntu 20.04; apparmor profile for firefox is blocking access to GPU:  http://sprunge.us/Kh4Qj1?text
[06:16] <webchat45> how may I fix this.
[07:00] <Denislav> missed
[07:18] <Denislav> nop
[07:45] <dlhdv> dlhdv
[08:07] <weedmic> how would I go about seeing the file associated with a service so I can see exactly what it is starting/stoping and in what order?
[08:14] <KBar> weemdic `systemctl show SERVICE_NAME.service`
[08:15] <KBar> Before=, After= fields.
[08:15] <weedmic> yes, ty - and it shows the file too
[09:28] <dorf> Hi, I have a problem with my lenovo laptop. The touchpad isn't turning off when typing, even though the setting is on. I've tried everything i could think of, but have not managed to fix it. Where do I go from here?
[09:30] <enyc> dorf: hrrm what ubuntu version/type ?  what setting?
[09:32] <dorf> ubuntu 20.04, the setting "disable when typing" under settings -> mouse & touchpad
[09:33] <dorf> Problem is that my palm keeps making clicks on the touchpad when typing, wich is really annoying.
[09:35] <oerheks> there is a 2nd 'disable while typing' in gnome-tweak-tools?
[09:36] <dorf> yes, that is also turned on. "synclient -l" also lists PalmDetect = 1
[09:38] <ravage> i dont even see that setting on my thinkpad
[09:39] <ravage> but i also never had that problem
[09:40] <oerheks> maybe some dirt in the edges?
[09:41] <dorf> I've tried cleaning it to no avail. But even then, even if it was dirt the touchpad should be disabled when typing anyway.
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> dorf: lenovo + touchpad, could be a bug, are you on kernel 5.11?
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> dorf: you can doublecheck all you tweaks from dconf-editor aswell before we suspect a bug
[09:50] <dorf> im on 5.11.0-40-generic
[09:51] <KBar> What xinput drivers do you have installed?
[09:52] <dorf> is there a trick to list changes in dconf-editor, I'm unsure if i even changed anything.
[09:54] <EriC^^> dorf: how did you change stuff?
[09:55] <KBar> dorf dconf dump / > dump.conf
[09:55] <KBar> *dump.dconf
[09:55] <EriC^^> ah dconf-editor is a gui
[09:56] <KBar> dorf, that is if you really changed it via dconf. if it was gsettings, i dont know if its possible to list manually changed schemas/keys
[09:56] <tomreyn> to compare current vs. default value, you could, using the "dconf" cli, "list" and backup current value, "reset" it, and then "list" it again, and optionally "write" the previous value again. there may be an easier option.
[09:57] <tomreyn> dorf`: ^
[09:58] <dorf`> that seems to dump everything, pretty sure i've only used dconf editor to check the settings are enabled anyway
[09:58] <dorf`> This have worked in the past, but all of a sudden stopped working. Also having some other issues with the touchpad being unresponsive for tap clicks after it has been to sleep.
[10:00] <KBar> dorf`, hmm. In that case, I think you need to look at what packages were updated/installed.
[10:01] <KBar> Did you update your kernel, libinput, etc.?
[10:01] <tomreyn> isn't xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (which provides "synclient") meant to be replaced by xserver-xorg-input-libinput, anyways?
[10:02] <dorf`> I might have, i've had this problem for some weeks now, so there have been a lot of package updates in the meantime.
[10:02] <tomreyn> (that's what its package description seems to siggest anyways)
[10:02] <KBar> I had the same problem a year or two ago which was solved by installing synaptics. My laptop isn't Lenovo, though.
[10:03] <dorf`> i have both xinput for libinput and synaptics installed, could that be the issue?
[10:03] <dorf`> xserver~
[10:04] <tomreyn> maybe. -synaptics is in universe, -libinput in main. i'd know hwich one i'd want to try and remove
[10:05] <dorf`> and which one would that  be? Synaptics?
[10:05] <tomreyn> yes, the one in universe
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> dorf`: there's a few bugs to check out there; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.searchtext=touchpad&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_pat
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> ch=&field.has_no_package=&orderby=importance&start=0
[10:07] <tomreyn> in 18.04 LTS, xubuntu and lubuntu depended on xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, but i assume you're using Ubuntu
[10:10] <dorf`> removing xserver synaptics package doesn't seem to fix it, would a reboot be required?
[10:11] <tomreyn> restarting the user sessions may be
[10:11] <tomreyn> definitely restarting X
[10:13] <tomreyn> if the problem persists, i'd also compare to wayland, maybe try to reproduce on the latest installer /live iso, and file a bug - after checking that there isn't one already.
[10:13] <dorf`> Does not seem to have fixed it. Might be at the point where a clean install is the solution, having random stutters on top of this.
[10:15] <tomreyn> or just try with a new user account to rule out changed you applied within your home
[10:15] <tomreyn> *changeS
[10:16] <dorf`> thats a good idea, thanks. I'll try that after lunch
[10:17] <deksar> hi
[10:19] <gry> deksar, hi
[10:55] <timsa> hey guys
[10:55] <timsa> how do i know if my ubuntu 20 is using netplan or something else?
[10:56] <timsa> i'm having issues connecting to outside world
[10:56] <timsa> apt update is working, but unable to ping 8.8.8.8
[10:57] <oerheks> is it a desktop? then it is networkmanager, most likely
[11:01] <tomreyn> timsa: this might tell:  systemctl status NetworkManager systemd-networkd
[11:01] <tomreyn> at least which backend you'r eusing
[11:02] <oerheks> nice line, tom, catches both
[11:04] <tomreyn> :) i think netplan would place current configuration in /run/ so maybe look for that as well
[11:04] <timsa> its a "server"
[11:05] <tomreyn> probably netplan then, unless you modified it or it's a custom image
[11:05] <timsa> systemd-networkd.service seems to be running
[11:05] <timsa> should i disable that and then it uses netplan?
[11:05] <tomreyn> and the systemd-networkd renderer
[11:06] <tomreyn> netplan is a management tool for those two backends
[11:06] <tomreyn> so you're probably currently using netplan and systemd-networkd
[11:07] <tomreyn> inspecting your configuration may help verifying this. netplan is configured in /etc/netplan and there is documentation on ubuntu server basics like this on https://help.ubuntu.com
[11:08] <tomreyn> netplan also has man pages and, maybe more conveniently, https://netplan.io
[11:13] <KNDX> The latest samba security upgrade broke our setup. (http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/s/samba/samba_4.13.14+dfsg-0ubuntu0.20.04.1/changelog). We tried downgrading samba. But we also use sssd, and for that package there is only 1 version available anymore that depends on the latest samba version
[11:13] <KNDX> (http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/s/sssd/sssd_2.2.3-3ubuntu0.8/changelog). Any pointers how to get out of this conundrum... either solving the current samba issue, of getting the downgrade working
[11:14] <tomreyn> KNDX: you may want to bring this up in #ubuntu-server, and check the bug tracker
[11:15] <KNDX> a, good tip, will post there
[11:15] <tomreyn> it will help to also discuss what broke exactly
[11:26] <timsa> tomreyn how can disable the /etc/network/interfaces and use netplan only?
[11:27] <Thib[m]> Hello all! Is there a list of all the ubuntu channels on IRC somewhere? Do you all start with #ubuntu?
[11:32] <mjt> Thib[m]: You could try /msg alis list ubuntu
[11:32] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[11:32] <oerheks> or the wiki
[11:32] <Thib[m]> mjt: thanks!
[11:33] <Thib[m]> Oh yes, thanks too oerheks :)
[11:34] <tomreyn> timsa: remove your configuration off /etc/network/interfaces and configure things via netplan instead.
[11:38] <timsa> just rm the config?
[11:40] <tomreyn> timsa: you can keep the empty file.
[11:44] <timsa> hmm. still unable to access the internet
[11:44] <tomreyn> timsa: actually, netplan has a "migrate" option you can probably use
[11:44] <tomreyn> s/option/command/
[11:45] <tomreyn> is the interface brought (down and then) up, though? is it configured properly accoring to "ip" (address, route)?
[11:49] <timsa> hmm. this is weird indeed. https and https works but i seems like nothing else
[11:49] <timsa> also i can ssh the server. apt update works
[11:50] <tomreyn> so what does not work, and how do you tell?
[11:51] <timsa> for example ping 8.8.8.8
[11:51] <tomreyn> fails how?
[11:51] <timsa> ping 8.8.8.8
[11:51] <timsa> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
[11:51] <timsa> just stays there
[11:52] <tomreyn> so firewall, packet loss, or broken router
[11:52] <timsa> its a cloud server with no firewall :p
[11:53] <ravage> no firewall you know of
[11:53] <oerheks> sudo iptables -L
[11:53] <timsa> ufw installed but disabled
[11:55] <tomreyn> "ping" should return to CLI after a timeout, though, and provide a status. does it not?
[11:55] <tomreyn> should return to the sehll prompt, i mean
[11:56] <timsa> https://pastebin.com/MUw3HW37
[11:57] <tomreyn> docker :/
[11:58] <tomreyn> tends to break networking if not configured properly
[11:59] <timsa> seems like some things are working
[12:00] <timsa> like i can wget websites
[12:00] <timsa> and nc or nmap ports 443
[12:00] <timsa> but i cant ping anything
[12:00] <timsa> except localhost
[12:08] <timsa> any ideaS?
[12:13] <tomreyn> timsa: did this work previously? if so, what changed in between?
[12:13] <tomreyn> and can you revert that? (maybe the docker installation?)
[12:13] <tomreyn> if it always happened, talk to your host
[12:14] <timsa> ah found it
[12:15] <timsa> i actually had a deny rule on the provider side
[13:03] <nyuszika7h> is there a way to change the format for screen recordings to MP4/H.264?
[13:03] <nyuszika7h> without manually reencoding with ffmpeg each time
[13:25] <lpv> anyone know why I can't get scrollbars at the edge of the screen with the mouse in this os?
[13:28] <ioria> lpv, might depend on your desktop theme
[13:28] <lpv> I only got ubuntu default
[13:29] <lpv> okay maybe I'll try sth else
[13:31] <ioria> lpv, unless you mean the 'Edge Scrolling' function
[13:32] <lpv> I spotted that somewhere, think it's got to do with touchpad? Nah I just mean when I move the cursor at the edge of screen at scrollbars position, it goes behind it
[13:32] <lpv> it's so annoying
[13:32] <lpv> I have to play precision fps to catch it
[13:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:33] <coz_> morning BluesKaj
[13:34] <BluesKaj> 'morning coz_
[13:34] <coz_> BluesKaj, how have you been?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> I'm doing ok, how about you?
[13:35] <coz_> BluesKaj, fine, thanks for asking. I probably have said this before, with all of the "new" people here, it's nice to see another old timer %)
[14:37] <webchat97> The only message I'm sending: I just wanted to congratulate you for moving the channels from freenode autistic network to libera.
[14:39] <Fatal_Sushi> webchat97: great but it doesn't belong here imho
[15:00] <saad> i want a alternative of illastetor
[15:01] <tigefa> saad gimp | ubottu gimp
[15:02] <oerheks> inkscape, libre office draw, tons of vector graphics programms
[15:04] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/search?q=vector
[15:09] <leftyfb> they left 21 seconds after asking the question
[15:09] <BluesKaj> expecting instant gratification
[15:12] <oerheks> macbook pro m1 ...
[15:12] <sprout> I want it!
[15:12] <sprout> maybe
[15:12] <sprout> probably not,  don't like moving parts and the thing has fans
[15:13] <sprout> but does have superior prestation compared to other stuff
[15:13] <leftyfb> !ot | sprout
[15:13] <sprout> oh,  right.   sorry
[15:54] <lacrymology> Hi. I'm having issues with disk encryption. I'm installing ubuntu on an existing box, the second half of the drive is an encrypted drive with arch linux in it. My goal is to install an encrypted ubuntu at the beginning, and move important files from the arch installation before (maybe?) deleting it. But I cannot install ubuntu encrypted without deleting the whole drive. What's more, installing ubuntu
[15:55] <lacrymology> killed my old grub, and the other system doesn't show up at all at boot (which is understandable since it's encrypted, I guess).
[15:56] <lacrymology> I've been able to open the encrypted drive, but if I'm understanding things correctly, this won't help me since I cannot encrypt ubuntu after-the-fact
[15:56] <oerheks> LVM/luks wants the whole drive, indeed
[15:58] <TJ-> lacrymology: is the installation inside the existing LUKS using LVM?
[16:12] <lacrymology> sorry if anyone answered, the encryption thing has become kinda secondary. Now I can't click things. Like, I open the apps list, and click on things and nothing happens. I was able to run the terminal from the lanucher thing where you can type program names
[16:12] <lacrymology> I was able to run chrome from the terminal
[16:12] <lacrymology> but the interface doesn't respond
[16:13] <lacrymology> also cannot resize or move windows, or change focus by clicking
[16:13] <lacrymology> alt-tab works
[16:14] <lacrymology> that's for everything, I can keyboard-navigate, but nothing responds to clicks
[16:15] <lacrymology> things get styled on mouse over and stuff, tho
[16:17] <lacrymology> I'm going to reboot, brb
[16:19] <lacrymology> ok, rebooting fixed the mouse issue, but no idea what it was
[16:21] <narfnarf> I'm using ubuntu LTS 20.04 and suspend to memory doesn't work - waking up just gives me a black screen. How to best find out what's causing this problem?
[16:22] <TJ-> narfnarf: examine the kernel log. most likely a GPU driver issue.
[16:30] <lpv> hey guys after upgrading to 21.04 my external hdd has been renamed to Storage1 instead of Storage and there's the old, now inaccessible Storage too. Can I remove the old somehow?
[16:31] <Gallomimia> not quite ubuntu question: is there something i'm doing wrong with a wget command, in that it doesn't download any files. only grabs index files and nothing more?
[16:31] <Gallomimia> lpv check what it says in /etc/fstab
[16:32] <Gallomimia> or... do you have this thing listed in there?
[16:33] <lpv> nothing related to external hdd on fstab
[16:33] <lpv> it normally goes under /media/username/<storage>
[16:33] <Gallomimia> oh. i usually put all my drives in that. externals are often spared that honor
[16:34] <moliendo> Hi, I have a problem with proprietary nvidia drivers. Whichever driver I use, it crashes for a while after opening a steam game. On the other hand, I don't encounter with any issues while using open-source driver in the same scenario. However, in this case, it doesn't work as good as the proprietary one (rendering issues).
[16:34] <moliendo> So I would be appreciated at least if you can guide me how to troubleshoot the problem. My graphical card is EVGA gtx 980 and the driver version is 495.44.
[16:34] <Gallomimia> could you describe how you installed these drivers?
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[16:36] <oerheks> !ops
[16:36] <moliendo> Gallomimia Now they are installed via default software center application but I also tried installing via a ppa (https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa)
[16:38] <lpv> this is what I'm getting: https://imgur.com/dJmNK4W
[16:38] <moliendo> The issue is that in any game driver crashes and I encounter with either death of orange screen or no signal on monitor warning.
[16:39] <oerheks> 495 is the newest, maybe your gtx 980 needs something older, like 390/440 ??
[16:39] <Gallomimia> lpv, i regret to inform you i don't know much about that. i'm led to believe that directory is auto managed
[16:40] <oerheks> is there an instance in the driver utillity that says 'recommended' ?
[16:40] <lpv> cool np, it's no big deal. thanks ;)
[16:41] <moliendo> oerheks: tried almost all drivers from 390 to 495.
[16:41] <Gallomimia> someone more knowledgable than me can help
[16:41] <ioria> moliendo, are  libnvidia-gl-495 and libnvidia-gl-495:i386  installed on your system ?
[16:41] <Gallomimia> indeed
[16:41] <Gallomimia> nvidia site says you should be using 470
[16:42] <Gallomimia> which means you should remove that driver, and sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-470
[16:42] <lpv> I'll deal with it later, cheers :)
[16:42] <Gallomimia> hang out in here lpv someone might answer you in a minute or two
[16:43] <moliendo> ioria:  libnvidia-gl-495:i386 is not installed
[16:43] <Gallomimia> https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/183575/en-us <--- driver 470 for a gtx980
[16:43] <moliendo> the other package is installed
[16:43] <ioria> moliendo, install it
[16:43] <Gallomimia> 470.
[16:44] <oerheks> and steam, yeah, it is heavy, lower the graphical settings
[16:45] <moliendo> ioria: it is not available on ubuntu repositories
[16:45] <ioria> !info libnvidia-gl-495:i386 focal
[16:46] <ioria> moliendo, it is
[16:47] <ioria> moliendo, sudo apt install --reinstall libnvidia-gl-495:i386
[16:47] <moliendo> Okay installing now
[16:49] <nafnarfr> Thanks. It was (unsurprisingly maybe) the nvidia drivers. I had to echo options nvidia_drm modeset=1 | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kms.conf, that seems to have fixed it. (from here: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/fixed-suspend-resume-issues-with-the-driver-version-470/187150/4)
[16:50] <moliendo> ioria: rebooting now, will try again to see whether it still crashes.
[16:50] <ioria> ok
[16:54] <oerheks> FunnyLookinHat, long time no see!
[16:57] <moliendo> let see now whether it works
[16:58] <brandoneliza> I have one funny problem with shotcut were my font weight is not changing to bold. THe font is installed.
[16:58] <d1g1ta1> Anyone know a good free ssh terminal emulator for Windows that will let you enter the same commands into mulitple linux hosts simultaneously?
[16:58] <TJ-> brandoneliza: sometimes you need another version of the font installed that does 'bold' :D
[16:59] <brandoneliza> TJ-: they are 2 .ttf files
[16:59] <brandoneliza> both installed. It's Garamond
[16:59] <oerheks> d1g1ta1, wsl2
[16:59] <brandoneliza> but I noticed this with other fonts too.
[17:00] <oerheks> shotcut as snap?
[17:00] <TJ-> brandoneliza: hmmm, did you update the font cache just in case the 'bold' isn't know about? - oh, maybe it is a Shotcut issue then?
[17:00] <oerheks> shotcut snap font issue
[17:00] <brandoneliza> TJ-: that is what I am thinking
[17:00] <brandoneliza> oerheks: I tried shotcut as a snap and shotcut as an appimage same thing
[17:01] <brandoneliza> wonder if it is a kde issue though I will just test in my ubuntu vm host is kubuntu
[17:01] <TJ-> what about shotcut from  Ubuntu archives?
[17:01] <brandoneliza> I think that just crashes a lot
[17:02] <brandoneliza> i could not get it to work reliably
[17:11] <ioria> brandoneliza, have you tied the -edge version  21.11 ?
[17:12] <brandoneliza> hmm that is the only thing missing. FUnny thing is on the other system (ubuntu 18.04 and snap at that time was 20.09.x but it auto updated) I don't know if it is broken now but that time it worked
[17:12] <brandoneliza> I am wondering if I am missing something else. But I tested with other fonts. I will try out the edge snap
[17:13] <brandoneliza> ioria: wonder how to install the edge snap
[17:13] <ioria> brandoneliza, have you tied the -edge version  21.11
[17:13] <ioria> brandoneliza, sy
[17:14] <ioria> brandoneliza, remove the old one and sudo snap install shotcut --classic --channel=edge
[17:14] <brandoneliza> I am a bit scared now of snap autoupdates too.
[17:14] <brandoneliza> is there a way to turn it off
[17:15] <brandoneliza> just for reference.
[17:16] <ioria> brandoneliza, nope, not comletly
[17:16] <ioria> *completely
[17:16] <brandoneliza> ioria: thats why I like apt. A teeny weeny bit more control
[17:16] <ioria> probably, yes
[17:17] <brandoneliza> I can build from source too but that means a lot more dev packages n stuff
[17:17] <brandoneliza> and headaches
[17:17] <brandoneliza> I am suprised the appimage has the same problem
[17:17] <TJ-> brandoneliza: I always do that in an nspawn deboostrap-created container.
[17:18] <brandoneliza> usually they woek well
[17:18] <TJ-> is it that those external installs can't get to the font files themselves?
[17:19] <brandoneliza> TJ-: I don't know what that is reading about it
[17:19] <moliendo> ioria: it still continue crashing
[17:20] <moliendo> it has to be a away to troubleshot it
[17:20] <moliendo> there has be a way*
[17:23] <brandoneliza> ioria: no difference; tested with ubuntu fonts too
[17:23] <brandoneliza> which are definitely fine
[17:25] <d1g1ta1> oerheks:  great idea, unfortunately, it looks like it won't run on 1809 and I can't upgrade work Win 10 version.
[17:48] <Guest83> Hello, I have my web dir /var/www/html with right 777 on www-data:www-data. I want to open access to someone ONLY on the folder named "foo". BUT, I do not want he access to all my sites. I want to have a specific user call "foo", who can access only to the dir /var/www/html/foo. Is it possible ?
[17:48] <deadrom> hi
[17:49] <oerheks> uh oh, 777  is a NO NO..
[17:49] <Guest83> ahah, never mind, 644
[17:49] <oerheks> basicly, if you want an ADMIN to access, make him member otf the www-data group
[17:50] <Guest83> uh oh, if he is in www-data, he will see all my sites
[17:50] <Gallomimia> everyone will if the permissions are 644
[17:50] <Guest83> 640 so ;)
[17:51] <deadrom> 18.04 LTS, cannot print from GTK dialogs like Gimp, gThumb. comes up with an error. when I go through print *preview* and hit print from there, it works. can someone riddle me this?
[17:51] <jkc> Guest83: If he's a member of the www-data group, he'll still be able to read everything.
[17:51] <ravage> Guest83: if that user only needs to up- and download files install something like proftpd with chroot activated
[17:52] <jkc> Or forget an FTP daemon and do a chrooted sftp-only user in SSH.
[17:54] <Gallomimia> it is possible to set directories to a more restricted set of permissions than sub directories
[17:55] <jkc> Yes, it is. However, group memberships can also ruin permissions structures if not planned for.
[17:55] <Gallomimia> read more about the permissions for sure. directory perms work different than documents
[17:56] <jkc> I quite literally know everything there is to know about Unix permissions, and ACLs.
[17:56] <Gallomimia> you only need x to go into a directory. you don't need read.
[17:57] <jkc> If the web server needs write access, then it has to have that either via user or group ownership. If the user is also a member of that group, then the user will, by virtue of group permissions, have access to everything that the web server has access to.
[17:57] <jkc> Or read access, for that matter. It isn't sufficient to give only traversal access.
[17:58] <jkc> That is the value of a chrooted user.
[18:00] <Gallomimia> no one but that system's webmaster should be a member of the www group
[18:00] <Gallomimia> and even then, it's questionable
[18:02] <oerheks> admin should be alright..
[18:03] <oerheks> but with multiple sites on 1 service.. hmm
[18:03] <Gallomimia> the owner should be www while the group should be he who controls that site
[18:11] <BrianHechinger[m> I'm having this weird issue with PAV on Ubuntu Studio 21.04. When I start using the mic for something (like a zoom meeting) it lowers the mic level (under Input Devices). I drag it back up to 100% and it goes back down. I keep dragging it up and it keeps going back down until it finally stops doing that and stays at 100%. It only seems to do this once I've started talking which is suuuuuper annoying.
[18:14] <oerheks> zoom does that, i guess, auto level
[18:15] <oerheks> maybe you can find that setting in zoom?
[18:22] <tomreyn> BrianHechinger[m: Maybe that's another reason to upgrade to 21.10 (21.04 will reach end of life in January) - though i do not know whether that's no longer an issue in 21.10 - but there#s a chance, I guess.
 "zoom does that, i guess, auto..." <- Zoom can change the pulse audio level?
[18:23] <BrianHechinger[m> tomreyn: Hmmm, that's not the worst idea I've heard. :-D
[18:24] <oerheks> BrianHechinger[m, i don't know, you tell me?
[18:24] <BrianHechinger[m> I wouldn't think it would.
[18:24] <BrianHechinger[m> but I'm hardly an expert in pulse audio
[18:48] <brandoneliza> ioria: hmm weird I setup an ubuntu 18.04 vm and the snap shotcut works fine there. Need to test on a ubuntu 20.04 vm now to know if it is a KDE thingy.
[19:07] <zen_coder> I want to specify a font directory relative to the fonts.conf location <dir prefix="relative">.</dir> does not work
[19:07] <zen_coder> any idea?
[19:08] <oerheks> zen_coder, did you ask this before?
[19:09] <zen_coder> oerheks:  before, I found a solution where I can specify an absolute path <dir>/home/user/myfonts_dir</dir> this works
[19:10] <oerheks> there are 3 basic places to place custom fonts, /usr/share/fonts, /usr/local/share/fonts, and ~/.fonts
[19:10] <zen_coder> however, I want to distribute the file and therefore I would like to avoid specifying the absolute path
[19:11] <oerheks> keep it simple, /usr/share/fonts
[19:11] <zen_coder> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html say I can do this
[19:11] <zen_coder> maybe the documentation is wrong?
[19:11] <raxor2k> sorry, i didnt know what channel to head to so i came here to ask this: Does online games like csgo/warzone/fortnite etc use sockets or websockets?
[19:11] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[19:11] <zen_coder> oerheks: For several reason, I cannot use this default directories
[19:12] <oerheks> sure you can
[19:12] <gry> raxor2k, please ask the unreal channel
[19:13] <zen_coder> oerheks: yeah, but in my use case I cannot
[19:16] <TheIronWolf> Hi, I am trying to set up build environment for this repo: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk.   I am not an experienced Ubuntu user, and I am hitting limits on some basic things.  So I have Hyper-V VM with Ubuntu 20.04 and I need to install some build tools, for example, mingw-w64.  So my very first question is: if I just use apt --install for
[19:16] <TheIronWolf> mingw-w64, I get version of 7.0.0.2.  But the VM repo uses also has same Ubuntu version, and they somehow get newer tools there, like gcc, mingw etc.  I was able to  work some of it around by installing bunch of .dep packages manually, but my environment is still significantly different from the CI environment those guys use.  Why apt does not
[19:16] <TheIronWolf> fetch latest things for me?
[19:19] <sarnold> TheIronWolf: "the vm repo"?
[19:21] <TheIronWolf> expressed myself poorly.  Github repo has CI build, it uses Ubuntu VM too, I believe even same version.  I am looking at logs of their VM setup, and there are many much newer packages.  Also, logs show pacman, and my Ubuntu VM does not have pacman.  Yes, I am very noob sorry
[19:22] <sarnold> are you sure their CI setup uses ubuntu? pacman is arch
[19:22] <TheIronWolf> my goal is to have build environemt as similar to their CI as possible. Yes, pacman confused me too.   See this:https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/runs/4184344080?check_suite_focus=true
[19:23] <TheIronWolf> Let me find you interesting sections:
[19:23] <TheIronWolf> Current runner version: '2.284.0'
[19:23] <TheIronWolf> Operating System
[19:23] <TheIronWolf>   Ubuntu
[19:23] <TheIronWolf>   20.04.3
[19:23] <TheIronWolf>   LTS
[19:23] <TheIronWolf> Virtual Environment
[19:23] <tomreyn> !paste | TheIronWolf
[19:23] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mingw-w64 21.04 gives 8.0.0-1
[19:24] <oerheks> meson should not be an issue
[19:24] <sarnold> lol
[19:25] <sarnold> I failed copy-and-paste and didn't notice..
[19:25] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/meson/+packages
[19:25] <sarnold> TheIronWolf: aha https://github.com/marketplace/actions/arch-linux-mingw-builder
[19:25] <TheIronWolf> ok I have 8.0.0.1 installed from .dep packages but
[19:25] <sarnold> TheIronWolf: from "Set up job", line "Download action repository 'Joshua-Ashton/arch-mingw-github-action@v5'"
[19:26] <TheIronWolf> can you clarify? I saw that line
[19:26] <TheIronWolf> how can I replicate their env locally, I am not following.
[19:27] <TheIronWolf> so mingw is 8.0.0.1  but g++ is wronge version compared to CI (looking at link)
[19:28] <sarnold> TheIronWolf: start by stealing their artifacts.yml, I think: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/blob/master/.github/workflows/artifacts.yml
[19:29] <TheIronWolf> but see - I do not want to setup CI, that requires Azure subscription etc, I want build locally, on my own Vm
[19:29] <sarnold> TheIronWolf: I've never used it but I've heard this thing can help you run github actions 'locally' https://github.com/nektos/act
[19:29] <TheIronWolf> thank you will look into it.
[20:19] <faLUKE> just solved, I had to unmount the drive. nm
[20:35] <TheIronWolf> sarnold - thank you for the hints, it got me going!  I did not use act, but I used Desktop Docker to get archlinux image, and no  way I would've been able to figure it out without Joshi's action above - he uses specific version of archlinux as latest has pacman broken.
[20:36] <sarnold> TheIronWolf: oh *jeeze* that sounds fragile all around
[20:37] <sarnold> TheIronWolf: I wonder why they started with an ubuntu image.. sigh. oh well :) good job untangling it all
[20:37] <TheIronWolf> yes :(  I really don't get why it is like that - there are even 2!!! mingws at same version number, so strange
[20:38] <TheIronWolf> I am not done yet, need to somehow transfer files to host windows machine from docker.
[20:39] <sarnold> I have to imagine that someone's going to waste a fair chunk of time on that somewhere
[20:41] <TheIronWolf> do you know what happens here:  echo -e '\n\n[multilib]\nInclude = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist\n\n' >> /etc/pacman.conf - I did that, otherwise pacman was failing, but what is [multilib]?
[20:46] <sarnold> TheIronWolf: probably something to let you install 32-bit stuff on 64-bit operating systems -- I bet there's something about it on the arch wiki :) they've got a great wiki
[20:48] <TheIronWolf> thanks man again, crazy, it'll take me half a day to take notes on how I got it build :D   and wait, I don't even if binaries are correct yet.  Trying to figure out how to share with host.  All that said dxvk is amazing, there's a dx9 game I am reversing, and dxvk runs game faster than native dx9, mindblown
[20:50] <sarnold> wow. I sure wouldn't have expected that.
[20:51] <sarnold> good job dxvk gang :)
[20:51] <TheIronWolf> yes - it is counterintuiteve, most often there's overhead.
[20:52] <TheIronWolf> now in my case the potential might be even bigger, one of enhancements I did is VR support in that game, if I manage to get backing Vulkan resources out of dxvk, I might be able to cut out dx9->dx11 conversion I have.
[21:21] <jcbjoe2021> I wa thinking of installing znc on an aws. Id znc setup stridjgt forward?
[21:22] <jcbjoe2021> Is*
[21:22] <jcbjoe2021> Straight*
[21:26] <oerheks> !info znc
[21:27] <oerheks> znc is, not sure about aws
[21:29] <sarnold> I found aws to be pretty confusing, but their lightsail front-end is pretty easy.
[21:31] <BinarySavior> what's a good privacy/security focused FLOSS web browser
[21:31] <BinarySavior> besides lynx
[21:31] <BinarySavior> :D
[21:31] <sarnold> probably torbrowser comes closest
[21:33] <BinarySavior> i think i will stick with firefox, actually.  I didn't realize it's open source
[21:33] <BinarySavior> yea tor is good too, I use tor sometimes but lots of features on some sites dont work with tor
[21:49] <jwash> i'm looking for an email service for my company, does anyone have any good experiences?
[21:55] <oerheks> choice of email service is beyond the scope of this channel, jwash
[21:57] <jwash> lol, are opinions out of the scope of the channel?
[22:02] <oerheks> this is technical support, so yes
[22:10] <TheIronWolf> when I am trying to run build script in mounted directory, I get this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RJr7DXtyNy/  happens in both Ubuntu and Archlinux, how can I fix this?
[22:18] <sem> that looks pretty hard TheIronWolf
[22:19] <sem> do you know what bash/r is referring to?
[22:19] <sem> i mean bash\r
[22:22] <TheIronWolf> sem I fixed it it was https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29045140/env-bash-r-no-such-file-or-directory/29045187 not sure why, but getting another problem:
[22:23] <TheIronWolf> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KhV672H8PN/
[22:23] <sem> Nice! Thanks
[22:23] <TheIronWolf> i was actually able to copy file to mounted folder so I can write
[22:24] <TheIronWolf> but wth is going on above
[22:24] <TheIronWolf> man every step uphill batttle
[22:24] <sem> looks like a permissions issue
[22:24] <sem> what are the permissions on the .sh file?
[22:24] <TheIronWolf> how can I test
[22:24] <sem> you can use the ls command
[22:25] <TheIronWolf> googling
[22:25] <sem> ls -l
[22:25] <sem> will tell you the permissions for all the files in your current directory
[22:25] <TheIronWolf> ah  bingo
[22:25] <TheIronWolf> Unix defaults to very restrictive
[22:25] <sem> you probably need to make sure that the .sh file is rwx for the user
[22:25] <TheIronWolf> could kindly tell me how because I am going crazy
[22:25] <sem> you can probably do something like chmod +x
[22:26] <TheIronWolf> how give full permission
[22:26] <TheIronWolf> let me try
[22:26] <sem> full permissions is generally pretty dangerous, but chmod +x will let the user execute the script
[22:26] <TheIronWolf> aaaa!!! it's building in a mounted folder
[22:26] <sem> that doesn't sound good
[22:27] <sem> is the folder mounted as read only?
[22:27] <TheIronWolf> no, I am happy
[22:27] <TheIronWolf> this is success
[22:27] <sem> nice
[22:27] <TheIronWolf> I need to write code on windows machine
[22:27] <TheIronWolf> oonly build in  docker
[22:27] <sem> glad it's working now
[22:28] <TheIronWolf> thank you for your help!
[22:28] <sem> no problem :)
[22:28] <TheIronWolf> Now just need  to document it all as I'll forget in 3 days