[03:23] <Belamos> hi
[03:24] <sarnold> hello
[03:24] <Belamos> which video cutting software would you guys recommend for a really slow computer?
[03:24] <Belamos> I tried kdenlive, which is good, but extremely laggy when it comes to an old PC
[03:24] <Belamos> even though I used "proxy videos" (small down-sampled videos as previews)
[03:24] <Belamos> the videos I need to edit are 4K
[03:25] <Belamos> I tried:  "losslesscut",  "openshot",  "kdenlive"
[03:25] <Belamos> the only thing I can think of would be ffmpeg in the command line.  But a graphical GUI would be nice.
[03:26] <sarnold> there's a few more listed with "apt-cache search non linear video editor", but I don't know this family of software well
[03:26] <sarnold> and doing video editing is just one of those things that is going to get much better with more capable machines
[03:27] <sarnold> if you've got slow drives and not enough memory, you'll spend way more time waiting for data to come from disk or get saved back to disk
[03:28] <Belamos> sarnold:  I couldn't even start describing my financial predicament to you.  - I must use the laptop I have here,  there is no other way.
[03:28] <sarnold> if you had enough memory itmight not need to go to disk as often, and it'd only read/write what's necessary, rather than a bunch of unnecessary stuff, too
[03:28] <sarnold> yeah :/ such is life :(
[03:29] <Belamos> sarnold, would you mind helping me get "apt" to work again?
[03:29] <Belamos> sarnold, for the past couple of months, I could only use snap, as apt refused to work for me
[03:29] <sarnold> Belamos: ouch :/ yeah, I've got a few minutes
[03:29] <Belamos> thank you!
[03:30] <sarnold> Belamos: can you run an apt update all the way to completion? or does that fail?
[03:30] <Belamos> I will show you in a moment
[03:31] <Belamos> sarnold, https://dpaste.org/vBGG
[03:31] <Belamos> this problem has started some months ago, and I don't know why.
[03:32] <Belamos> I tried deleting all packages that apt complained about, but then an other package was named by apt as the root of evil
[03:33] <sarnold> Belamos: hmmmm. that's an odd one, I don't think I've seen that one before. what's in dmesg?
[03:35] <Belamos> sarnold, https://dpaste.org/VsQg
[03:35] <sarnold> woooooow
[03:35] <sarnold> not at all what I expected
[03:36] <Bashing-om> Belamos: ^ indicates that MergeLists, a working tool of apt, is corrupted. one can ' sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' --- and apt will re-create them.
[03:38] <sarnold> Belamos: every five to ten seconds your ACPI firmware is throwing an absolute fit; hopefully a firmware update can fix this. I don't know what the consequences of it are, but it can't be good for performance for the firmware to be throwing errors a dozen times a minute
[03:38] <Belamos> thank you, Bashing-om - just doing so
[03:39] <Belamos> sarnold, yes, it is annoying... I think that is an ACPI problem
[03:39] <sarnold> yeah; there's a ton of linux kernel command line options to fiddle with acpi settings. I don't know any of them well enough to know what to suggest. it's probably not the rabbit hole to go down right now..
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> !acpi
[03:40] <sarnold> but I'd really hope for a firmware update. if you're lucky your vendor publishes updates via fwupd, and you can install one easily. if not, you might need to figure out how to install one through their own mechansim
[03:41] <Belamos> apt seems to be running again
[03:41] <Belamos> I am just installing a lot of new packages using Bashing-om's command
[03:42] <Belamos> sarnold, I am looking into the firmware thing now
[03:42] <Belamos> thank you
[03:43] <sarnold> Belamos: excellent :D
[03:44] <Bashing-om> Belamos: Is this a laptop ?
[03:45] <Belamos> Bashing-om, yes
[03:47] <Bashing-om> Belamos: Then when you have the firmware updated - might consider changing the DSDT (Differentiated Services Description Table) , See: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html .
[03:50] <Bashing-om> Belamos: By the way - I also run "really slow computer" and I find that a core install of Xubuntu runs very well on thisz ole hardware of mine.
[03:51] <Belamos> Bashing-om, I am using trinity desktop which makes it also pretty fast
[03:51] <sarnold> oh cool :D
[03:53] <Belamos> my computer seems to be unable to even play any type of 4K video
[03:54] <Belamos> not even in VLC or kaffeine
[03:56] <Belamos> There is a shop selling used computers around the corner.
[03:56] <Belamos> they are about $ 100 each (without the screen)
[03:56] <Belamos> what do I have to look out for?
[03:56] <Belamos> I saw some with 3 GHZ
[03:56] <Belamos> but what do I really need to edit 4K videos?   A good graphic card?  Or GHZ?  Or RAM?  Or all of it?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> Belamos: Ya want at a minimum 4 gigs of ram: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements/ .
[03:58] <Belamos> Bashing-om, you just linked the general system requirements.  What about 4K video editing?
[03:58] <Belamos> my system (900 MHZ computer) is dyning with 4K videos
[04:01] <Bashing-om> Belamos: editing videos is intense work - not much ekse here that I can advise of.
[04:01] <Bashing-om> alse*
[04:01] <Bashing-om> else** sheeshh !
[04:02] <Belamos> =)
[04:02] <Belamos> thank you!
[04:02] <Belamos> I am leaving now, need to get up early tomorrow
[04:03] <sarnold> I'd expect RAM and disk speed to be the biggest influences -- the more RAM you can get, the better, and the faster the disk you can get, the better; nvme is better than sata ssd, sata ssd is better than hdd. but you've got to have enough disk to store the video, and that makes nvme or ssd pretty difficult.
[04:03] <sarnold> d'oh
[04:03] <Bashing-om> Belamos: If you are looking to replace your machine the above link is the specs you want to exceed in the replacement.
[04:04] <Bashing-om> d'oh X2 :D
[04:52] <ssj5subhashish> Hi, I am fairly new to ubuntu. I tried to upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 and now my wifi, bluetooth and sound services are not working
[04:53] <ssj5subhashish> Can someone please help me with this
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> ssj5subhashish: can you check your kernel version please?
[04:57] <ssj5subhashish> lotuspsychje: its 5.4.0-1055-gke
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> ssj5subhashish: special kernel, what kind of brand is your machine?
[04:58] <ssj5subhashish> Its a dell latitude 3490
[04:58] <ssj5subhashish> lotuspsychje:
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> ssj5subhashish: what you could consider is installing the !HWE kernel and test if this supports more of your drivers/firmwares
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> ssj5subhashish: feel free to share your dmesg in a pastebin too, volunteers could take a look whats going on for you
[05:01] <ssj5subhashish> Thanks lotuspsychje, let me do that
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> !hwe
[05:04] <ssj5subhashish> lotuspsychje: here is the dmesg log https://pastebin.com/VMhXiuN4
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> brb ssj5subhashish going breakfast first, try the hwe meanwhile perhaps
[05:07] <ssj5subhashish> Sure lotuspsychje
[05:23] <ssj5subhashish> lotuspsychje: just FYI, I am getting this error while installing hwe kernel
[05:23] <ssj5subhashish> https://pastebin.com/GSvfAHm4
[05:36] <Lvl4Sword> This feels like it should be obvious but isn't. So, I'm wanting to setup "flameshot gui" to be a replacement for screenshots. Looked at https://askubuntu.com/questions/1283765/is-it-possible-to-disable-enable-all-shortcuts-in-ubuntu-20-04 and from what I can see.. there's no option to change the program used for basic screenshots?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> ssj5subhashish: sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-20.04
[05:47] <Lvl4Sword> There is the "Add Custom Shortcuts" option at the bottom of "Keyboard Shortcuts" if you hit the + sign. Though hitting Backspace doesn't work for disabling the PrtSc button ...
[06:00] <ssj5subhashish> lotuspsychje: actually I am unable to connect to the internet. Is there any way where I can download the entire package and kust install it
[06:01] <ssj5subhashish> Cause I tried installing these packages one by one and it seems like they are dependent upon more similar packages
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> ssj5subhashish: you need internet to update system and pull packages
[06:03] <ssj5subhashish> lotuspsychje: can you please help me this. Is there any way I would be able to connect with the internet atleast. I tried USB tethering, Ethernet and what not. None of them works
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> ssj5subhashish: the only chipset for offline fix, is broadcom holding the drivers on the ubuntu iso
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> ssj5subhashish: you could try booting into previous kernel(s) to that point where your drivrs did work, and download packages from there
[06:25] <Lvl4Sword> Feels like a roundabout way of doing it, but had to go into /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/media-keys/screenshot and set the value to [] -- and then set a custom command for PrtSc from there.
[06:35] <tomreyn> ssj5subhashish: did you make it to bring said system online, yet?
[06:35] <ssj5subhashish> lotuspsychje: how do I install these drivers?
[06:35] <ssj5subhashish> tomreyn: yet not
 ssj5subhashish: you could try booting into previous kernel(s) to that point where your drivrs did work, and download packages from there
[06:35] <tomreyn> you may have missed this
[06:36] <ssj5subhashish> tomreyn: can you please let me know how do I do this
[06:37] <tomreyn> ssj5subhashish: do you know how to bring up the grub menu?
[06:37] <tomreyn> during boot
[06:37] <tomreyn> that's the menu you can select kernels to boot from
[06:39] <tomreyn> either hit escape once, or hold down shift during boot
[06:39] <Recon> Hold down shift key during reboot
[06:39] <tomreyn> depends on how you're booting, uefi or legacy bios mode
[06:40] <Recon> Ah right...
[06:41] <Recon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode#:~:text=With%20BIOS%2C%20quickly%20press%20and,starts%20with%20%22Advanced%20options%22.
[06:41] <TJ-> Recon: UEFI has no provision for reading the state of the modifier keys so have to tap Esc key (UEFI only does key-down/key-up events)
[06:41] <ssj5subhashish> Thanks tomreyn Recon I will try this
[06:44] <ssj5subhashish> Going out now, will try this later
[06:45] <tomreyn> the 5.4.0-1055-gke kernel image you said you had running is meant to be used by Google Kubernetes Engine (GKE), a very specific virtualization environment in the Google public cloud hosting environment.
[06:45] <tomreyn> it's unclear how that would have gotten onto your desktop computer in the first place
[06:46] <tomreyn> err laptop, but still
[06:47] <Recon> is this a work laptop, ssj5subhashish ?
[06:48] <ssj5subhashish> Yes Recon
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> i know apt picks up specific kernels now for some brands, but that doesnt mean it always suits best
[07:38] <webchat25>  ubuntu 20.04; apparmor profile for firefox is blocking access to GPU leading to poor performance:  http://sprunge.us/Kh4Qj1?text
[07:38] <webchat25> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2469021
[07:49] <tomreyn> webchat25: if you're hoping to have this changed, you should file a bug report
[07:49] <tomreyn> !bug | webchat25
[07:54] <MrSassyPants> Is there some way to mark an *USB drive, removable* partition as "do not automatically mount this or hide it from the user"
[07:55] <MrSassyPants> (It is a bootable USB key with multiple partitions, but only one of them is meant to really be used for storage and I am kind of annoyed with 3 partitions popping up whenever I plug it in)
[07:56] <MrSassyPants> The "hidden" partition flag doesn't work or is ignored by ubuntu
[07:57] <tomreyn> you could disable auto mounting in general
[07:57] <ravage> that would be "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount false"
[07:57] <ravage> thats what i do :D
[08:01] <MrSassyPants> Again, the point is, I want to run this on *any* system
[08:01] <MrSassyPants> so changing anything on my own system is missing the point
[08:02] <ravage> you really chose your nick with care
[08:02] <themill> s/Again/Sorry, I should have included this important extra criterion,/
[08:03] <MrSassyPants> I figured *mark the partition* and *removable* would have given it away
[08:05] <MrSassyPants> The problem is ofc that googling such a thing gives me 2.8 million results of how to disable automounting on my system
[08:14] <MrSassyPants> Okay: Marking as "hidden" doesn't work, but marking it as an EFI System Partition rather than a regular partition does
[08:29] <MrSassyPants> New thing: Apparently a win10 installation medium can boot off exfat, but an ubuntu live iso can not
[09:21] <EriC^^> MrSassyPants: for uefi booting all that's needed is a fat32 partition with the iso contents, windows or ubuntu, there should be an efi dir there and booting the .efi there should get the job done
[09:21] <EriC^^> didn't know exfat worked though, good to know!
[09:21] <MrSassyPants> yes and fat32 can't store files >4gb which means the windows installer part doesn't work
[09:22] <MrSassyPants> exfat does *not* work for ubuntu
[09:22] <MrSassyPants> the liveCDs kernel does not contain the module
[09:22] <EriC^^> i see
[09:22] <MrSassyPants> exfat does work for windows and grub
[09:23] <MrSassyPants> and grml
[09:23] <MrSassyPants> and probably other distros too
[09:23] <EriC^^> so grub works but ubuntu cant really boot the installer
[09:23] <jkc> What's the actual issue here?
[09:23] <MrSassyPants> ubuntu livecd kernel does not contain exfat support
[09:23] <MrSassyPants> therefore when booting the iso from an exfat partition, it can't find its own iso
[09:23] <EriC^^> MrSassyPants: odd though about the 4gb thing, i remember putting windows iso in a fat32 without issues
[09:24] <MrSassyPants> That was probably a while ago, the windows isos keep getting bigger
[09:24] <MrSassyPants> they're now at 5.5gb
[09:24] <MrSassyPants> and even if you extract them, the main install file is 4.6gb
[09:24] <EriC^^> ah
[09:25] <MrSassyPants> so what I am trying now is using wimsplit to create 1024mb-chunk-sized things but I have no idea if it works because I won't know until I actually install it
[09:25] <jkc> It will.
[09:25] <MrSassyPants> and I cba to set up a VM because it needs to work on bare metal
[09:25] <jkc> I generally went for 3GiB chunks.
[09:25] <jkc> But that's whatever.
[09:26] <jkc> MrSassyPants: So you're trying to build a windows installer, is that the actual thing going on?
[09:26] <MrSassyPants> I'm trying to build a multipurpose usb key
[09:27] <MrSassyPants> install windows, various flavors of linux, grml rescue, and so forth, all in one
[09:27] <jkc> Ah, got it.
[09:27] <MrSassyPants> and also a 200gb partition for just general "stuff"
[09:28] <MrSassyPants> so what I ended up with now is a 32gb FAT32 partition that contains both the windows bootloader and files, and isos for grub to load
[09:28] <EriC^^> MrSassyPants: maybe you could use exfat, just to load grub, and have ubuntu on an efi partition
[09:28] <MrSassyPants> I could but that would mean two separate partitions again
[09:28] <jkc> The ESP isn't designed to house a full OS.
[09:29] <jkc> And GRUB would be loaded from the ESP.
[09:30] <MrSassyPants> It's two ESPs now
[09:30] <jkc> Do not do that.
[09:30] <MrSassyPants> You can't stop me!
[09:30] <jkc> Okay, but the fact that is against UEFI spec might stop you. ;)
[09:31] <MrSassyPants> The first one contains the grub bootloader, the second one contains the windows bootloader and all the other stuff
[09:31] <MrSassyPants> I would mark it as a data partition
[09:31] <MrSassyPants> but then it shows up when I plug the key in rather than just the stuff partition
[09:32] <jkc> That also doesn't work.
[09:32] <MrSassyPants> I don't know what you are talking about
[09:32] <jkc> By spec, UEFI firmware only has to look for partitions of type ESP.
[09:33] <MrSassyPants> I had no problem booting off the stick with two ESPs (apart from the ubuntu problem)
[09:33] <jkc> Then the firmware maker for that board was kind.
[09:33] <MrSassyPants> That's the UEFI BIOS
[09:33] <jkc> There is no BIOS.
[09:33] <jkc> There is the firmware part of UEFI. BIOS is emulated.
[09:33] <MrSassyPants> You call it bios because it's the screen that your motherboard produces before the actual OS is loaded
[09:33] <jkc> aka CSM.
[09:33] <jkc> That is not what BIOS means. :P
[09:33] <MrSassyPants> the firmware settings
[09:33] <MrSassyPants> yet everyone calls it that
[09:34] <jkc> BIOS is actual firmware. UEFI is not BIOS. CSM is BIOS emulation.
[09:34] <jkc> I don't care what everyone calls it. There's what is, and there's what isn't.
[09:34] <jkc> You could learn, or argue. Your choice.
[09:34] <MrSassyPants> I do understand that autistically the UEFI BIOS is not BIOS unless you use UEFI to emulate a BIOS
[09:34] <jkc> What I am communicating may help you in your endeavor.
[09:34] <MrSassyPants> I understand. It's the UEFI Bios.
[09:34] <jkc> There is no BIOS.
[09:35] <MrSassyPants> ... moving on
[09:35] <jkc> And the "autistically" comment is very much against the rules of conduct in this channel. So don't go there.
[09:35] <jkc> When you're trying to make something bootable across as many systems as possible, getting "how things boot" correct is kind of important.
[09:35] <MrSassyPants> It is, yes
[09:36] <jkc> Then maybe being less argumentative - and insulting - might be a good idea when someone is trying to help you better understand "how things boot."
[09:36] <MrSassyPants> But in this case, pedantry is pointless, because what is *meant* is unambiguous
[09:36] <MrSassyPants> There is no actual "Bios" anymore
[09:36] <MrSassyPants> there's no confusion about what screen or what part of the boot process is being talked about
[09:36] <jkc> I don't trust "what is meant." Words have meanings. That's why they exist.
[09:37] <jkc> Alright, I'm done with you. All you want to do is argue.
[09:37] <MrSassyPants> You wanted to argue semantics
[09:37] <MrSassyPants> I was like "dude its fine"
[09:38] <MrSassyPants> What I am more interested in is that the windows installer thing will not be confused by the presence of an install.swm (and install_2.swm) instead of the install.wim
[09:39] <EriC^^> i'd do the multiple partition thing MrSassyPants , easier, each os can live on its partition and use grub and some custom menu to load each
[09:40] <MrSassyPants> I tried that, realized ubuntu can't boot off exfat, and then decided to just make it one partition as there are no conflicting folders
[09:41] <MrSassyPants> The one partition solution has the issue that either ubuntu won't load (because it's exfat) or windows can't be deposited without a hassle (due to the 4gb file limit in fat32) and more exotic file systems may cause more problems
[09:42] <MrSassyPants> grub can load all of them fine (... after a day of fiddling)
[09:43] <EriC^^> if you put ubuntu on a fat32, and put grub's efi in the exfat, maybe you can modify /efi/grub/grub.cfg that's what sets the $root partition and $prefix (where /boot/grub/grub.cfg) exists
[09:44] <MrSassyPants> Yes, that would work
[09:44] <EriC^^> then that would load the menu off the fat32 ubuntu, and i think it could load ubuntu from the fat32
[09:45] <MrSassyPants> but then there's no reason to have it be fat32 either if all it boots is ubuntu, you could use ext2
[09:45] <EriC^^> i wonder how windows is making their 'usb installers' nowadays then, if fat32 is out of the question
[09:45] <MrSassyPants> ntfs
[09:45] <EriC^^> aha
[09:45] <MrSassyPants> Actually, UDF partitions might also work for both. The iso is actually UDF
[09:46] <MrSassyPants> the windows ISO I mean. The ubuntu iso is iso9660
[09:46] <MrSassyPants> And I'm pretty sure both grub and ubuntu can both read UDF
[09:47] <MrSassyPants> (at boot time that is)
[09:54] <Bendik> Hi. I'm a newbie with Ubuntu. I'm trying to install grass (a package) using "apt-get install grass". It installs version 7.8.2 while the version on the package repository (universe) is 7.8.5. Does this make sense?
[09:54] <jkc> Have you updated your apt cache? apt update?
[09:55] <MrSassyPants> 1. Have you done "apt update" before, and 2. what release of ubuntu are you on
[09:55] <Bendik> Yeah. I also changed the ubuntu settings to use only "universe" to be sure it wasn't getting it anywhere else. I'm on 20.04
[09:56] <jkc> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/grass
[09:56] <jkc> 7.8.2 is the correct grass version on your release.
[09:57] <Bendik> Oh, I was looking at impish
[09:57] <Bendik> That makes sense then xD Thanks
[09:57] <jkc> Sure!
[09:59] <Bendik> Does this mean I'm not using the optimal ubuntu version?
[10:00] <jkc> 20.04 is a long-term support release, 21.10 (impish) is not.
[10:01] <jkc> It really depends on what's more important to you: stable and supported for a long time, or newer software, potentially more bugs, and supported for a shorter time.
[10:02] <geirha> If in doubt, just stick with LTS
[10:02] <jkc> ^
[10:03] <Bendik> Yeah it seems the software I want to use is also designed for 20.04, so I will stick with that. Thanks again! Better avoid bugs since I have no clue what I'm doing
[10:10] <MrSassyPants> jkc, alright using EF00 for two partitions may cause trouble, but what other partition code is by default hidden in both windows and linux? (And also recognized by gdisk)
[10:15] <MrSassyPants> What about 0C01 "Microsoft Reserved"
[10:28] <MrSassyPants> I did expect the reverse, but: Hidden in linux, but automounted in windows
[11:04] <Bendik> I have another question, but it's related to the installation of a specific program in Ubuntu. Is this an appropriate place to ask that as well? I couldn't get a response on the (relatively dead) IRC for that program
[11:11] <ThinkT510> Bendik: depends what the program is
[11:37] <nomn> in dpkg package version format, what do the numbers around `ubuntu` mean? for example: 4.4-2ubuntu1
[11:38] <nomn> 4.4 is the package version, what are 2 and 1?
[11:41] <oerheks> package-XubuntuY - x = debian version, y = ubuntu version
[11:42] <oerheks> x-0Ubuntu1 means that there was not a debian package yet and this is the 1st ubuntu version
[11:44] <nomn> i see, thanks!
[12:13] <Guest39> is there some xmpp messenger in ubuntu depositories that works with tor?
[12:17] <oerheks> !info coyim
[12:18] <oerheks> !info coyim focal
[12:18] <oerheks> this one has support for Tor, OTR and TLS
[12:19] <Guest39> ty
[12:19] <Guest39> looks lovely
[12:19] <nullptr> hm
[12:35] <Bendik> When adding PYTHONPATH variables in bash_profile, do I add a line similar to this for every variable? "export PYTHONPATH=/home/my_user/code
[12:35] <Bendik> "
[12:38] <chrisgt> ive got the latest ubuntu and set my software update preferences "Automatically check for updates: Every two weeks"
[12:39] <chrisgt> and yet it'll come up nearly every day. this is extremely annoying. can i make it actually check once in two weeks?
[12:39] <chrisgt> is it because sometimes i have the audacity to type apt update. and apt install a package without going through some package manager?
[12:42] <oerheks> those are unattended security updates, i guess
[12:43] <oerheks> apt and package manager uses the same lists and service, no worries
[12:46] <chrisgt> yea but it annoys me that this thing keeps popping up
[12:46] <chrisgt> it's like using windows
[12:47] <chrisgt> i update all my servers weekly unless there's some huge reason to do it sooner, so i follow suite with my desktop and laptop
[12:47] <chrisgt> i thought i'd try ubuntu on this machine after being a debian guy for the last 15 years...
[12:47] <oerheks> start the day with updates?
[12:47] <chrisgt> i do updates on monday mornings
[12:47] <oerheks> one does not want unpatched kernel or browser
[12:48] <chrisgt> because mondays suck and why not break things on monady
[12:48] <mortyy[m]> https://thegreatwhitebrotherhood.org/welcome/important-message-from-the-gwb/
[12:48] <oerheks>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades # and press N # https://ostechnix.com/how-to-disable-unattended-upgrades-on-ubuntu/
[12:48] <chrisgt> thanks!
[12:49] <oerheks> mortyy[m],  how it that related to ubuntusupport?
[12:49] <oerheks> spammers are not welcome, ok?
[12:49] <chrisgt> i'm also quite frequenty on a mobile connection
[12:49] <mortyy[m]> oerheks: did you read the message?
[12:49] <chrisgt> does this service pay attention to selecting that it's a tethered connection?
[12:50] <oerheks> mobile users do benefit disabling updates, indeed
[12:50] <oerheks> chrisgt, no
[12:50] <chrisgt> ok, it wouldn't bother me so much if it cared whether or not a connection was tethered
[12:50] <oerheks> mortyy[m], no, and i do not click such urls, thanks.
[12:51] <mortyy[m]> oerheks: use url2png to view the message then
[12:51] <oerheks> mortyy[m], move it to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss  .. i guess nobody clicks that url too
[12:51] <chrisgt> dude, oerheks was helping me, you were spamming me. sorry, i agree.
[12:52] <nullptr> agree
[12:59] <awathefox> my wifi connection suddenly lost
[13:00] <awathefox> and chromium cannot displays Unicode correctly
[13:00] <razend> How to download images from remote based on the list from local? - https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/678089/download-the-images-from-remote-with-a-list-from-local
[13:02] <razend> scp -rv user@remote-host:/var/www/domain.com/public_html/assets/media/{"$(cat images.txt | tr '\n' ',' | sed 's/,$//')"} ./assets/media
[13:02] <razend> downloads directly, I want to download images in respective folders
[13:03] <awathefox> no idea
[13:05] <chrisgt> razend: scp is insecure and should no longer be used https://lwn.net/Articles/835962/
[13:05] <chrisgt> use rsync instead
[13:06] <awathefox> try to execute "cat images.txt | tr '\n' ',' | sed 's/,$//')" and watch its output maybe?
[13:10] <razend> It outputs as: a/b/abc.jpg,a/b/abcd.jpg,1/2/123.jpg,1/2/1234.jpg which leads the magic expansion with {} braces
[13:12] <awathefox> seems like cp has this feature too :\
[13:15] <chrisgt>  do you have images that start with weird characters (like a dot, dash, star), or images with spaces in their pathname? because if so, the above method won't work
[13:16] <awathefox> use bash to solve this problem...?
[13:16] <razend> nope, all are regular images
[13:18] <awathefox> commands on sh is different to commands on bash
[13:20] <awathefox> such as pwd and whoami
[13:24] <awathefox> :)
[13:25] <awathefox> Disconnected :(
[13:27] <awathefox> anyone there?
[13:27] <awathefox> :(
[13:28] <ioria> awathefox, what's your problem ?
[13:29] <awathefox> chromium cannot display Unicode correctly
[13:29] <ioria> awathefox, only chromium ?
[13:30] <oerheks> chromium snap or apt version?
[13:30] <awathefox> snap 2.53+21.10ubuntu1,apt 2.3.9 (amd64)
[13:32] <awathefox> I fixed it!
[13:36] <Bumblebee> hey
[13:38] <awathefox> what's up
[13:38] <awathefox> ???
[13:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:43] <awathefox> CoDiNg
[13:45] <awathefox> Friday's almost there!
[13:45] <awathefox> leave
[13:50] <WickedDekciw> Hola, folks
[13:50] <WickedDekciw> Anybody familiar with a better way to scan bad blocks that isn't badblocks-v which just takes ages!?
[13:51] <WickedDekciw> -v actually has hundredth increments % which is insanity
[13:51] <ordos> Hi all, on 20.04, how can I change RGB on my graphics card's shroud? In windows I could use Asus Aura program. On Ubuntu I've tried OpenRGB but it doesn't find my card. Any other ideas? Thanks.
[13:53] <oerheks> scanning badblocks can take some time indeed
[13:55] <oerheks> ordos, depends on nvidia or AMD, xrandr --output HDMI-1 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full" (nvidia) / or from the nvidia settings
[13:55] <nullptr_> greetings!
[13:56] <Guest7127> o/
[13:58] <ordos> oerheks, thanks it's an Nvidia, will try that, appreciate the help
[14:00] <ordos> oerheks, not that I want to bug you with follow up questions, but I just want to make sure I'm doing this right... I got: X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[14:00] <ordos> xrandr --output USB-C-0 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[14:01] <ordos> (xrandr listing showed card connected via USB-C-0
[14:03] <ordos> Perhaps there's a way to list the available "color" options
[14:04] <awathefox> Tab
[14:04] <awathefox> um,not working
[14:06] <WickedDekciw> oerheks, sure it takes some time, but in .01 increments of progress? That's impossibly slow
[14:07] <ordos> wait this commmand just seems to change my RGB config of display, sorry I wasn't clear, I'm trying to change RGB LED config on physical graphics card in case
[14:08] <awathefox> ordos, your command is working on my device
[14:08] <awathefox> ordos, does your device support it?
[14:09] <ordos> well the RGB on my graphics is currently "breathing" this red colour, I want to make it static and blue
[14:09] <ordos> *on my graphics card
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> ordos: this, or openRGB? https://github.com/philpax/borealis
[14:10] <ordos> lotuspsychje, thanks, but yeah as mentioned further up I tried OpenRGB - alas it doesn't find my card
[14:11] <ordos> Nvidia Geforce 2060 Super
[14:11] <ordos> RTX
[14:11] <awathefox> Perhaps there is an official tool?
[14:12] <ordos> On windows there is - Asus Aura
[14:12] <ordos> not sure how to do it on ubuntu :-/
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> ordos: doesnt your mobo allow to control it?
[14:14] <awathefox> no idea
[14:15] <awathefox> maybe there is no way to solve it
[14:16] <chrisgt> have you tried electrical tape? :)
[14:19] <awathefox> any chinese?
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> !cn | awathefox
[14:26] <ordos> lotuspsychje, nope unfortunately mobo doesn't have that feature (assuming you mean BIOS - which I checked), and it didin't come with hardware switch (at least not that I can see). It's a software controller. But I'll dig a little deeper. If I can do it on Windows then there must be a way to do it on ubuntu :-)
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> ordos: could try it over wine/playonlinux as a test?
[14:27] <ordos> lotuspsychje, that's a great idea actually, I have the Asus Aura installer file, thanks for the tip
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> let us know if it works or not
[14:32] <chrisgt> it's probably controlled over I2C. if you can find the lines you could sniff what the windows driver tells the card
[14:32] <chrisgt> then just write to that hardware descriptor
[14:33] <chrisgt> i've done this in the past with other PC hardware
[14:36] <ordos> chrisgt, thanks for the tip. Some googling suggests I should look at i2c-tools - am I on the right track?
[14:36] <chrisgt> yea, probably
[14:37] <lpv> Can someone help me correctly map my external hard drive to ubuntu? For example I'm trying to use deadbeef and I can't access /media/<user>/<device> where it's mapped by default to access files (permission denied)
[14:37] <lpv> I've been told /media might not be the best place for that? I'm not sure how that stuff works
[14:38] <chrisgt> lpv: you're trying to have a fixed mount point for a specific drive?
[14:39] <lpv> I guess so. You know a place I can access files(docs,music, everything) like I did on windows with drives.
[14:39] <lpv> And it is always available. (My usb hard drive for example needs me to click on it first, I've not looked into that yet)
[14:40] <chrisgt> so create a mount point, like /extdrive. and put it in your fstab
[14:40] <ordos> chrisgt, this just might work, I've already managed to narrow down my GPU's bus using i2cdetect -l, will see what I can do, thanks again
[14:40] <chrisgt> use the partition UUID so it always moutns the correct thing
[14:40] <lpv> ok I'll try that
[14:41] <chrisgt> ordos: nice. i obviously don't know what commands to send your gpu, but maybe someone has already done the hacking to reverse engineer teh interface
[14:41] <ordos> chrisgt, for sure. This is a good start, cheers.
[14:41] <chrisgt> the i2c could also be fore VGA and old DVI monitors, though...
[14:41] <lpv> @chruisgt will that also work for the usb hdd?
[14:41] <chrisgt> since it used i2c to get the monitor properties
[14:41] <chrisgt> lpv: yes. fstab doesn't care where the hard drive is physically
[14:41] <chrisgt> if it's avaible in dev/disk/by-uuid, it'll mount
[14:42] <lpv> perfect!
[14:42] <oerheks> i am sure /media/ is correct for removable storage, maybe it is shutdown with errors?
[14:42] <oerheks> that would prevent mounting
[14:42] <chrisgt> i don't like putting fixed mount points in /media
[14:43] <lpv> Actually I also have a problem after upgrading to non-LTS(yeah that's probably not a good idea) that ext. drives ask for permission the first time to access. but anyway
[14:43] <chrisgt> i have media on a different drive, and i actually mount it to /home/chris/media with permissions set for my uid
[14:43] <ordos> chrisgt, well when I was playing with OpenRGB (which doesn't support my graphics card), I kept coming across i2c for other modern graphics cards, so I assume I'll be able to do this with a bit of fiddling
[14:44] <ordos> chrisgt, it's a long-ish read but basically this is what I have to do now - https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB/-/wikis/Reverse-Engineering
[14:45] <ordos> Seems I'm on the right track with using i2c for graphics card
[14:46] <chrisgt> probably. i guessed that just based on how such things are generally controlled
[14:47] <ordos> chrisgt, there it is - https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB/-/wikis/ASUS-Aura-GPU
[14:47] <ordos> static blue here I come
[14:47] <ordos> If this works I'll FedEx you a beer or something
[14:47] <chrisgt> if it works, help the next person having the same issue :)
[14:49] <ordos> For sure. Will make a push request to OpenRGB for my particular graphics card
[14:50] <lpv> fstab worked like a charm and I'm not asked for authentication! deadbeef however unable to access it for some reason
[14:50] <lpv> ohh maybe cause I put it on root? /extdrive?
[14:51] <oerheks> lpv, what filesystem?
[14:51] <lpv> nah it can access /
[14:51] <oerheks> * on that external hdd
[14:51] <lpv> ntfs probably, but it won't even access /extdrive, as opposed to /extdrive/satantfsdrive or /extdrive/usbsatantfsdrive
[14:52] <chrisgt> what is it?
[14:52] <oerheks> if ntfs does not mount, it is closed dirty, use ntfs tools to fix it
[14:52] <chrisgt> can you put an ntfs drive in fstab? or does it have to be mounted with fuse
[14:52] <chrisgt> or ntfs-3g or something
[14:53] <BluesKaj> NTFS is fine for fstab
[14:54] <lpv> Nah it's a deadbeef thing, vlc can play files
[14:54] <lpv> anyway the solution works! thanks! I'll look into it
[14:54] <lpv> Solves some headaches ^^
[15:25] <gm15> hi there
[15:26] <oerheks> :-)
 "Brian Hechinger: Maybe that's..." <- Upgraded to 21.10 and......... no change in behavior. PAV is still being dumb.
[16:18] <mortyy[m]> https://thegreatwhitebrotherhood.org/welcome/important-message-from-the-gwb/
[16:20] <leftyfb> mortyy[m]: can we help you with something?
[16:20] <oerheks> !ops, mortyy[m] spamming again
[16:21] <oerheks> he does not stop, leftyfb
[16:21] <leftyfb> !ops | mortyy[m] spamming again
[16:29] <Sbazzeguti> in the output of "less /var/log/syslog" i find something strange to me ... it's correct : https://pastebin.com/dP643UnH
[16:34] <oerheks> Sbazzeguti, i have no clue what happened there
[16:35] <Gallomimia> pardon. how do i find the number of files in a directory, commandline style?
[16:36] <spotter> anyone have an idea why my thinkpad laptop (usb-c/thunderbolt power ports) shows 3 ac adapters
[16:36] <spotter> 2 makes sense and seem to behave normally (i.e. the usb-c and the thunderbolt) and shows online status correctly
[16:36] <spotter> there's a 3rd that shows always online
[16:37] <spotter> and hence laptop never suspends
[16:37] <Elliria> This should help, Gallomimia: https://askubuntu.com/questions/34099/find-number-of-files-in-folder-and-sub-folders
[16:37] <spotter> this is on impish
[16:41] <oerheks> thanks for flying f̶r̶e̶e̶n̶o̶d̶e̶ libera
[16:41] <Gallomimia> haha
[16:42] <Gallomimia> Elliria, i do not wish to traverse directories. i was hoping LS would do it
[16:43] <Elliria> Some of the solutions on that page don't do a recursive search, Gallomimia, and there seem to be several ls suggestions. I'll try some of them.
[16:44] <Gallomimia> they're all so complicated. when nautilus . will do it faster
[16:44] <Gallomimia> or... not?
[16:44] <tomreyn> just add -maxdepth 1
[16:45] <Gallomimia> such a pain in the ass. nautilus doesn't show the number of files i'm looking at?
[16:45] <Gallomimia> just ignore me while i go whine and complain in the corner..
[16:46] <Elliria> The first suggestion by Seth on that page works perfectly for me, counting only the files in the root directory and not recursing through and also not counting the subdirectories.
[16:47] <Elliria> That should be configurable, Gallomimia. I use Ubuntu MATE, so I don't have Nautilus, but it can surely do at least what my file manager does and then some.
[16:47] <Gallomimia> yeah. it should be.
[16:47] <Gallomimia> it should suck a lot less for being copyright 1999 too.
[16:48] <Gallomimia> will consider mate once again. thanks for the suggestion
[16:48] <chrisgt> Elliria: in mate, use caja
[16:49] <tomreyn> "find . -type f | wc -l" *would* recurse through subdirectories
[16:49] <Elliria> Does it show up in your status bar when you select all the files, Gallomimia?
[16:49] <Gallomimia> ah, i did not select all. i just viewed properties
[16:49] <Gallomimia> 1700 files so, not interested in hacky, work around, command manipulating solutions
[16:50] <Elliria> In MATE's Caja file manager, it shows me how many files I have in the current directory and that changes to how many I have selected if I select some.
[16:50] <Gallomimia> the most basic of functions in exploring a directory structure... not readily available in GUI or CLI? that's a fail.
[16:50] <chrisgt> your'e trying to find the number of files in your current directory?
[16:50] <Gallomimia> no. i'm done doing it
[16:50] <Gallomimia> now i'm just griping about how it was like pulling chicken's teeth.
[16:51] <chrisgt> oh. lol
[16:51] <EriC^^> that's the beauty of using free open source software, you can improve it yourself instead of whining
[16:51] <Gallomimia> agreed
[16:51] <chrisgt> you can use tree, too, if you don't like find
[16:51] <cbreak> EriC^^: not instead of. In ADDITION to :)
[16:51] <Elliria> I'm pretty sure you can also extend Nautilus' functionality with custom scripts.
[16:52] <Gallomimia> cbreak, now you're talkin my language
[16:52] <EriC^^> cbreak: well, optimally instead of :P
[16:52] <tomreyn> you can ctrl-s in nautilus, type *, press enter, see matching files on bottom
[16:52] <cbreak> (Anyway, I like ranger. Dolphin also seems OK)
[16:52] <TJ-> it must due to your files spoiling the asthetics of Gnome dev's vision for how a file-manager should look :D
[16:52] <Gallomimia> alas, the list of things i have to do today is too long to go digging in the guts of a operating system
[16:53] <chrisgt> gnome dev's vision of a file manager has been broken every since gnome 3 came out
[16:53] <Gallomimia> tomreyn, or i could just look at the bottom bar and see the number, if i had an actual real file explorer
[16:53] <Gallomimia> just sayin.... mac has had that for 30+ years
[16:53] <TJ-> does it really not have a basic summary when no files are selected, Gallomimia ?
[16:54] <Gallomimia> no
[16:54] <TJ-> I know when files are selected some file-managers change the summary text
[16:54] <TJ-> I've not used Gnome since, oh, 2008ish!
[16:54] <Gallomimia> in fact, there's an enourmous number of things missing from the nautilus view
[16:54] <Gallomimia> like... any function to customize the view
[16:55] <Gallomimia> and i used to be able to put a wee shortcut on the left side to navigate to root dir
[16:55] <tomreyn> https://i.imgur.com/scixPVI.png
[16:55] <Gallomimia> which was usually how i "got around"
[16:55] <tomreyn> that's on 18.04 LTS.
[16:55] <chrisgt> the biggest thing missing is allowing you to type and goto, not get search results...
[16:55] <Elliria> Here's some help on customizing Nautilus with scripts: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NautilusScriptsHowto
[16:55] <cbreak> what I was missing in gnome's file thingie was miller columns
[16:56] <Gallomimia> tomreyn, that is present in a little pop-up in the bottom right
[16:56] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: let me guess: that's not how you want it?
[16:56] <Gallomimia> shock and awe
[16:56] <Gallomimia> i'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest it's not how 90% of users want it.
[16:58] <Gallomimia> now. i'm very bad at going off topic in this channel, and now i've got all of you doing it too. so maybe we go to #ubuntu-discuss?
[16:59] <spotter> anyone know how gnome / freedesktop enumerates ac adapters?  I'm seeing one that says online but isn't and is preventing laptop from auto suspending?
[16:59] <spotter> this is on impish
[17:00] <Gallomimia> ^^^ actual support question.
[17:10] <TJ-> spotter: reading /sys/class/power_supply/* usually
[17:11] <TJ-> spotter: unless it is related to a Bluetooth device
[17:13] <cbreak> upower --dump might give hints
[17:14] <cbreak> (on my desktop, ubuntu thinks it's a laptop because of the attached UPS :)
[17:15] <TJ-> cbreak: your poor lap!
[17:17] <spotter> TJ-, that helps a little
[17:17] <spotter> I see 4 items
[17:18] <spotter> AC (problem) BAT0 (fine) and 2 ucsi-source-psy-USBC000:00{1,2} entries corresponding to the usb-c and thunderbolt connectors
[17:18] <spotter> for some reason the AC insists on pretending its online
[17:29] <TJ-> spotter: that could be a motherboard firmware/ACPI issue
[17:32] <spotter> except it wasn't
[17:33] <spotter> this is weird
[17:33] <spotter> I dpkg --purge --force-depends upower ; apt- install upower
[17:33] <spotter> and now its behaving normally
[17:33] <spotter> no clue
[17:34] <spotter> why I thought to do this?  when I went to ubuntu-bug upower it said that /etc/UPower/UPower.conf was modified
[17:34] <spotter> but I couldn't figure out how, so I just purged and reinstalled
[17:34] <spotter> unsure if that has anything to do with it, but its now tracking status correctly
[17:34] <spotter> still shows 3, but the "AC" one tracks if either is plugged in
[17:36] <TJ-> spotter: good you solved it
[17:36] <TJ-> spotter: but you likely will never know how or why the config was changed
[17:38] <TJ-> spotter: it is possible a previous version of the package shipped with a slightly different config file. When the package was upgraded it is also possible for some reason the config wasn't upgraded. So you now have the 'older' config. So when you run ubuntu-bug it sees the hash sum for that file in the current version of the package doesn't match the hash of the installed file, and complains
[17:42] <manwhowouldbekin> Greetings all! Could you tell me if and how I can troubleshoot the following issue. Every now and then, after awakening from hybernation, the screen on my Ubuntu 20.04 machine does not get a video input signal and remains black. The machine itself awakens and seems to run. I always end up doing a hard reset as I do not know what else to do. The video card is Nvidia GT 730. The driver I am using is 470.82.
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> manwhowouldbekin: laptop brand is a lenovo?
[17:45] <manwhowouldbekin> lotuspsychje: No. Custom-built workstation.
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> manwhowouldbekin: could you share your dmesg in a pastebin for the volunteers to take a look please?
[17:46] <manwhowouldbekin> lotuspsychje: sure thing. What exactly would you like to see?
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> the whole log please
[17:48] <manwhowouldbekin> lotuspsychje: https://termbin.com/ecjw
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> manwhowouldbekin: was there a specific reason you run kernel 5.15 and does it occur on 20.04's kernel the same?
[17:50] <oerheks> manwhowouldbekin, i told you, it is for testing only, and you are on your own...
[17:50] <oerheks> gt730 should run fine with the 340 driver, AFAIK..
[17:52] <oerheks> "These kernels are not supported and are not appropriate for production use." https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[17:56] <Belamos> hi
[17:58] <manwhowouldbekin> lotuspsychje: the previous built I had was 5.14rc2, so I wanted an official release. This has happened on various kernels in the past year or so, even on the official "stable" versions.
[17:58] <oerheks> mainline is not *official*
[17:58] <oerheks> i think you should get a lower nvidia driver
[17:59] <oerheks> IIRC, if you experience problems with steam, lower the specs in steam
[18:00] <manwhowouldbekin> lotuspsychje: I have been building my own because I do need to do some testing every now and then, related to VFI.
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> manwhowouldbekin: oerheks is already advising you
[18:02] <manwhowouldbekin> lotuspsychje: Ok, thanks.
[18:21] <spotter> TJ-, understood, that's why I purged it, as I couldn't imagine what should be there.  though a bit surprised there was no .dpkg version of the file from at least the impish upgrade
[18:22] <spotter> i.e. it would have asked me if it differed
[18:24] <TJ-> spotter: possibly then some other process changed it in the background. That happens when services/packages don't adopt the run-parts or conf.d/ style and have to alter the primary package config
[18:25] <zenof> hey, please, where do I start to look at when suddenly gui (also and in particular gtk) applications load suuuper slowly in gnome shell ? any ideas how to debug this? already tried to start them from a terminal to see any debug info but nothing suspicious yet.
[18:26] <matsaman> zenof: top, iotop, memory usage, etc.
[18:27] <matsaman> if it's fine when you first start up your computer, then most likely you're running low on memory or I/O
[18:27] <matsaman> cheap solutions: more memory, solid state storage
[18:27] <oerheks> or, what browser do you have open?
[18:28] <matsaman> same as memory =P
[18:28] <oerheks> 64 bit wants 4 gb nowadays
[18:29] <ioria> zenof, nothing in syslog ?
[18:29] <matsaman> 4gb is pretty cheap these days; if your system came with less than that, it's probably affordable to get as much ram as your system even supports
[18:29] <matsaman> which if it came with less than 4 is probably only 4 or 8
[18:30] <zenof> matsaman: yes, for example I have htop running. Idle is okay, about memory 1 GB out of 8 "occupied". then I do $ echo "one\ntwo\nthree" | dmenu , and it takes about 3 seconds to load. same with file managers, browsers, and so on.
[18:31] <matsaman> using dwm?
[18:31] <zenof> ah, forgot to mention, in htop, I see the then started process takes up over 100 % of cpu.
[18:31] <zenof> no, as I said, gnome shell
[18:31] <matsaman> "over"? =)
[18:31] <matsaman> well I guess that's not ideal
[18:32] <zenof> I tested dmenu just to make shure it happens _also_ to non-gtk apps
[18:32] <riv> hi i installed ubuntu, how do I turn off animations? :)
[18:33] <matsaman> unfortunately lots of possibilities there: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1036441/ubuntu-18-04-gnome-shell-high-cpu-usage
[18:33] <ioria> riv, in system settings
[18:33] <riv> ty!
[18:33] <ioria> riv, sorry, in gnome-tweaks
[18:34] <oerheks> or install dconf; https://fostips.com/disable-animations-speed-up-gnome-ubuntu/
[18:34] <riv> oh gnome tweaks
[18:34] <riv> is it possible with a command line ?
[18:34] <ioria> riv,  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface enable-animations false
[18:34] <riv> yasss
[18:34] <riv> tyvm
[18:34] <ioria> ok
[18:36] <_ganapathi_> my hostname changing to ubuntu after reboot. even i changed cloud.cfg option preserve_hostname from false to true.
[18:37] <KBar> Can anyone confirm if this is still true and valid? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates
[18:39] <_ganapathi_> how do i use hostname from DHCP server instead overwriting by cloud init
[18:40] <oerheks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html && https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/phased-updates-in-apt-in-21-04/20345
[18:40] <oerheks> kbar, yes.
[18:40] <oerheks> : To always include phased updates, set APT::Get::Always-Include-Phased-Updates to true.
[18:41] <oerheks> certainly with LTS, we do not want *all* machines to crash
[18:42] <zenof> _ganapathi_: does this help: https://serverfault.com/questions/1024584/automated-ubuntu-20-04-server-install-how-can-i-get-hostname-from-dhcp-server ?
[18:45] <_ganapathi_> zenof: no. it's not working
[18:47] <oerheks> gnapathi, did you run; sudo cloud-init clean  $ sudo cloud-init init  after that?
[18:47] <oerheks> fromhttps://medium.com/@terryjx/how-to-permanently-change-hostname-in-ubuntu-18-04-lts-server-across-reboot-and-cloud-72e2e00646fb
[18:47] <KBar> oerheks, that makes sense. Thank you and have a great day!
[18:48] <oerheks> and reboot to make sure
[18:49] <_ganapathi_> i did reboot
[18:50] <_ganapathi_> let me check
[18:51] <rangersmyth> Hello all
[18:51] <_ganapathi_> thanks. it's working after cloud-init clean and cloud-init
[18:52] <oerheks> _ganapathi_, have fun!
[18:53] <zenof> so, reading files from my ssd seems to be okay with ~350MB/s, writing is ~100MB/s less. and the load speed problem occurs also with apps I closed milliseconds before. they should be left in the mem pages, so the bottle neck might be ...?
[18:59] <_ganapathi_> But only happen when i execute dhclient. not happening on dhcp server changes then reboot server
[19:04] <tomreyn> zenof: write cache, storage bus or memory bandwidth, cpu
[19:04] <tomreyn> zenof: which hardware, ubuntu release, kernel version?
[19:13] <zenof> tomreyn: how would I check the storage bus? and, it's a thinkpad 201, ubuntu 20.04 and kernel is 5.11.0
[19:14] <zenof> x201 that is.
[19:18] <_ganapathi_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1236590/how-to-set-hostname-via-dhcp-in-ubuntu-20-04-or-18-04
[19:18] <_ganapathi_> this link option works for me finally
[19:19] <tomreyn> zenof: x201 is 10 years old, right
[19:20] <zenof> more like 12 ;)
[19:20] <tomreyn> i think you're getting what you can get out of those
[19:21] <zenof> well, but: it run very smoothly until this morning for the past 7 years...
[19:22] <zenof> plus, it's only the graphical (gui-) applications. everythink on the console works like a charme, even cpu and/or mem expensive things.
[19:22] <zenof> everything.
[19:23] <tomreyn> zenof: you seemed to discuss file transfer speeds, now this is about GUI lag?
[19:24] <zenof> I am sorry, my very first question was an hour ago : hey, please, where do I start to look at when suddenly gui (also and in particular gtk) applications load suuuper slowly in gnome shell ? any ideas how to debug this? already tried to start them from a terminal to see any debug info but nothing suspicious yet.
[19:24] <rangersmyth> ANYONE PLEASE!!! Is there a quick way to open a port 5901 for VNC? It is disabled like myself and I am looking for a command to open port 5901. ANYONE!!!
[19:24] <tomreyn> !patience | rangersmyth
[19:25] <rangersmyth> :)
[19:25] <rangersmyth> Haha... I need a bit of that!
[19:25] <tomreyn> zenof: post a dmesg, if you like. and check your logs at /var/log/apt about what software got updated that may have introduced the problem
[19:26] <rangersmyth> Thanks tomreyn!
[19:27] <tomreyn> rangersmyth: by "open port", you may mean one of two things: run a software which listens on this port, and then handles incoming connections. or reconfiguring your firewall which is currently blocking that port. which one is it?
[19:30] <zenof> oh. I already narrowed it down with things like r/w speed testing on my ssd which are okay. and then a ' echo "one\ntwo\nthree" | dmenu ' to see if it's about gtk. but now that you mentioned dmesg...
[19:34] <oerheks> sudo ufw allow VNS ( or sudo ufw allow OpenSSH)  or sudo ufw allow 5901:5910/tcp
[19:34] <oerheks> easy to find rangersmyth
[19:36] <tomreyn> zenof: your last sentence seems to have cut off
[19:44] <rangersmyth> Thanks tomreyn | I am trying to get a vncserver to run on my kali machine (I am only been learning linux for 3 weeks, loving it) and the port is closed. I am not sure how to open it up to listen for incoming calls, or how to reconfigure using software, not sure which software to use for that. I didn't have a problem with a firewall as I had none installed. so I installed ufw and Firewall as an app. I learnt how to enable and disable
[19:44] <rangersmyth> sed VNCServer, Tight, Tiger and open and all have the same problem of not connecting to my 2nd machine.
[19:44] <rangersmyth> From my Linux laptop I can open a VNC to my 2nd machine (Win 10) and use it great! Buyt, I can't seem to VNC into the Laptop.
[19:44] <rangersmyth> Sorry for my english, I am dyslexic and thanks for the help!
[19:46] <rangersmyth> oerheks: sudo ufw allow VNS ( or sudo ufw allow OpenSSH)  or sudo ufw allow 5901:5910/tcp
[19:46] <oerheks> shortcut; sudo ufw app list # would give VNC ?
[19:46] <oerheks> sudo ufw allow vnc
[19:46] <rangersmyth> This did the trick!!!
[19:47] <oerheks> nice
[19:48] <Hash> rangersmyth: learn port numbers and allow specifically them.
[19:48] <Hash> ufw may not be used on other linux distros and when you encounter a need to do similar work you'll be at a loss.
[19:48] <rangersmyth> Thanks oerheks!!!!!  I am connected now to my laptop but I have a black screen!!! WOW... Thank you so much and tomreyn for your help. I have been at this for 4 days trying to get it to connect!!
[19:48] <Hash> rangersmyth: also learn iptables ( which ufw is a front end for )
[19:49] <rangersmyth> Thanks Hash. I have installed them today, or reinstalled not sure which, as I have been at this sense 9.15 am!
[19:49] <Hash> The VNC ports to open are the default ports 5900 and 5800.
[19:49] <Hash> So `ufw allow 5900` would add both ip4/6 rules to allow from anywhere.
[19:50] <Hash> rangersmyth: brilliant. Is there a reason why you're installing a vnc server on a kali linux distro?
[19:50] <Hash> I assume you're into security
[19:50] <rangersmyth> I had an error saying Failed to restart iptables.service: Unit iptables.service not found. 
[19:50] <rangersmyth> More learning needed//
[19:50] <tomreyn> rangersmyth: note we don't support kali here, just ubuntu
[19:51] <rangersmyth> Thanks tomreyn, I understand
[19:51] <Hash> rangersmyth: Kali can be discussed in #security #websec or #linux (as well as their official channel if they have one)
[19:53] <rangersmyth> @Hash - Just learning that's all. I have Kali installed on a 2nd partion on my D drive! I also installed Parrot OS also, have 3 OS on my Laptop working nice!  I am loving this side of the tech, as I was a windows and pc support for 20 years, and I always wanted to learn about security side of the business.
[19:53] <Hash> You should virtualize them instead of having to boot into one or the other.
[19:53] <Hash> But also this is a non ubuntu support topic
[19:54] <rangersmyth> Cool, I do not know enough about linux to discuss anything, but I have a VM ubuntu installed on my PC to learn.
[19:54] <Hash> rangersmyth: /join #security and /join #websec (for web security)
[19:55] <rangersmyth> @Hash - Good idea, I do have Kali, Ubuntu and Parrot as VM's on my pc, I wanted to use them to learn while not messing up my laptop! lolz
[19:55] <Hash> rangersmyth: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overview
[19:55] <Hash> First get Ubuntu desktop setup on your machine/laptop.
[19:56] <Hash> Then install https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads virtualbox
[19:56] <zenof> tomreyn: okay, I'm back and sorry - I indeed had a lot of apparmor issue messages about things in  /var/cache/fontconfig , run fc-cache and crashed my machine with it. switched to another one and rebooting now ...
[19:58] <tomreyn> crashed? how?
[19:58] <tomreyn> running fc-cache should not cause a kernel panic.
[19:58] <oerheks> indeed
[19:59] <KamikazeKash> Can I ask about issues/bugs pertaining to daily builds of 22.04 here or would that be somewhere else? TIA
[20:00] <zenof> okay, crashed more like in "nothing responses to nothing", not like in kernel panic.
[20:00] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | KamikazeKash
[20:01] <tomreyn> !sysrq | zenof
[20:01] <KamikazeKash> Thanks tomreyn
[20:02] <tomreyn> zenof: i'd also try switching to a different tty first of all if it's unclear whether it's just a graphics issue.
[20:02] <zenof> ubottu, thanks, but by nothing responses to nothing, I really meant that.
[20:03] <rangersmyth> Ok Hash, thats my next setup! Going virtual!!
[20:07] <zenof> now, after a "normal" boot (not writing this from that machine), logging in already was suspiciously slow from the moment on I pressed enter in gdm.
[20:11] <zenof> and yes, for example opening a pdf in evince still takes way too long and dmesg brings up a lot of apparmor="denied" operation="chmod" for profile="evince" name="/var/cache/fontconfig".
[20:12] <zenof> and: yesterday I indeed installed a new font (in ~/.local/share/fonts), and I guess these issues are occuring since then.
[20:14] <zenof> dmesg also says: audit_printk_skb: 60 callbacks suppressed.
[20:18] <zenof> and /var/log/fontconfig.log seems to be okay, and ends with "/var/cache/fontconfig: cleaning cache directory \ fc-cache: succeeded"
[20:18] <oerheks> after you installed those fonts, did you logout/login or reboot?
[20:18] <zenof> I did
[20:20] <tomreyn> so you should be able to reverse this easily now, and see whether that helps
[20:21] <zenof> I mean, since yesterday, I did logout/in and reboot several times, in order to find out what caused the slow down of my machine , and, as I said before, it crashed jst half an hour ago, so I was forced to reboot it ;-/
[20:22] <zenof> it doesn't. I already removed the font files (it's "source code pro"). But running fc-cache seems to go wrong (eating up all system resources).
[20:23] <oerheks> Maybe you added it wrong, hard to tell
[20:23] <zenof> just copied the files to ~/.local/share/fonts and run fc-cache
[20:24] <zenof> tomreyn: not, please tell me how to reverse things .. ;)
[20:25] <tomreyn> zenof: do you what did, in reverse. ;) but apparently you already did. does this problem occur when you set up a new user and login to that?
[20:27] <oerheks> fc-list  # would show all fonts, fc-cache ~/.local/share/fonts woudl update user fonts solely
[20:27] <zenof> tomreyn:omp
[20:28] <zenof> oerheks: fc-cache system-wide (with sudo) end successfully, local fc-cache ~/.local/share/fonts as well...
[20:29] <oerheks> so, your crash might not be related?
[20:31] <zenof> tomreyn: yes, occurs with any other user as well, after lgging in using gdm it takes way too long, and then, firing up apps result in the same delay.
[20:32] <zenof> well, but installing the font and the related dmesg output about fontconfig is the only thing I have.. :/
[20:33] <tomreyn> note that we haven't yet seen any logs, error messages in context,
[20:33] <oerheks> way to long - how long should that be?
[20:33] <zenof> right, atm I can't copy& paste as I'm writing from another  machine
[20:33] <oerheks> and what services/mounts are running?
[20:34] <tomreyn> that's what ssh is for ;)
[20:34] <zenof> well, it used to be within seconds (maybe 7 or 10) over the last year(s) . now it's more like a minute.
[20:42] <rangersmyth> test
[20:43] <oerheks> rangersmyth,  no kali testing here
[20:44] <rangersmyth> LOLZ... Can't get into the Kali room, username and password and SSL connection problems!
[20:44] <rangersmyth> An no more about that OS again on here, I promise
[20:45] <oerheks> we don't care, you are not in title for support here
[20:56] <zenof> okay, I have that machine up again. what to post where?
[20:59] <dust> where to put something in autostart?
[21:01] <oerheks> alt f2, type starup, startup applications gui opens
[21:02] <dust> oerheks, command not found
[21:02] <oerheks> really? what linux are you on?
[21:02] <dust> 21.10
[21:03] <zenof> if he really typed "starup", it's no big surprise...
[21:03] <oerheks> icon left low corner, works too, start ~
[21:03] <oerheks> oh typo
[21:03] <zenof> but, oerheks meant "startup"
[21:05] <dust> thx... great gui...
[21:21] <zenof> anyway, thank you for all the advise!
[21:30] <de-facto> is there an option to "lock" audio sliders?
[21:30] <de-facto> they move and jiggle around on their own, both master volume as well as balance
[21:30] <de-facto> i just want that damn thing to stay on a constant level
[21:31] <de-facto> can i remove some packages that allow for adjusting pulse audio volume?
[21:31] <sarnold> the last person who was complaining of that said he was running zoom; are you using the same? does it have 'auto level' kind of checkboxes in its settings?
[21:32] <wizard1> hie
[21:32] <wizard1> hi
[21:32] <wizard1> is there anyone
[21:32] <de-facto> no zoom, just some youtube videos, the audio wildly stutters and now always moves balance to right side
[21:32] <de-facto> its annoying beyond words
[21:33] <tomreyn> !ask | hi wizard1
[21:33] <sarnold> de-facto: oh :( ew
[21:34] <de-facto> sometimes killing pulseaudio MANY times in a row (in  a while loop) seems to help (starting pulseaudio manually), but the only thing that really helps is a full reboot
[21:35] <de-facto> problem is that this state is reached everytime after some bug becomes active, e.g. its only a matter of time since a boot till audio becomes broken
[21:35] <wizard1> i have quetion
[21:35] <tomreyn> de-facto: is this a standard ubuntu installation, which version, which kernel, which desktop environment? do oyu have third party software installed?
[21:36] <tomreyn> ...and running
[21:36] <de-facto> its a standard 20.04 lts with some newer kernel and Gnome 3
[21:36] <tomreyn> "some newer kernel" meaning from a third party?
[21:36] <wizard1> my color of terminal in linux is not good some one can help me to bring
[21:36] <de-facto> it seems to be a problem with many versions of ubuntu, acutally i can not remember any version of it that did not had that audio problem
[21:36] <wizard1> it back
[21:36] <wizard1> to first mode
[21:37] <sarnold> wizard1: whichi terminal are you using?
[21:37] <wizard1> bash
[21:37] <sarnold> that's the shell, not the terminal
[21:37] <oerheks> never seen youtube do that
[21:37] <tomreyn> de-facto: hmm, maybe it's specific to your audio chipset. i've never had this happen to me on several computers.
[21:38] <wizard1> can you tell me what is terminal can you tell me some example
[21:38] <de-facto> it basically makes audio unusable for me
[21:38] <sarnold> wizard1: gnome-terminal konsole urxvt xterm wterm aterm st
[21:38] <wizard1> gnome
[21:38] <wizard1> is mine
[21:40] <sarnold> wizard1: there might be a meatball menu or bacon menu or somethng that you can use to get to a settings menu
[21:40] <wizard1> sarnold: ?
[21:40] <de-facto> its an ALC889A chipset
[21:40] <oerheks> de-facto, must be a LADSPA plugin??
[21:40] <de-facto> whats that?
[21:41] <wizard1> yes  i know i go to performance > color  i was playing with this
[21:41] <wizard1> colors
[21:41] <wizard1> and i saw my terminal is
[21:41] <wizard1> not good at color
[21:42] <wizard1> and i wana bring it back to defult
[21:42] <tomreyn> wizard1: edit -> preferences -> click on the "+" next to "Profiles" -> type "my profile" -> click on the drop-down next to "my profile" -> click "set default" -> click "close"
[21:44] <wizard1> tomreyn: you are awsome thank you my friend
[21:44] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[21:47] <oerheks> maybe it is browser dpendant, for chrome there is a plugin https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/disable-automatic-gain-co/clpapnmmlmecieknddelobgikompchkk
[21:47] <oerheks> but this never happened here..
[23:00] <akk> I'm trying to update my hirsuit to impish, but firefox doesn't run: /user.slice/user-NNN.slice/session-1.scope is not a snap cgroup where NNN is my uid
[23:00] <akk> I'm not finding much with web searching, any suggestions?
[23:00] <akk> I get the same error trying to run chromium.
[23:03] <oerheks> re-install the snap?
[23:04] <oerheks> snap remove --purge firefox
[23:04] <oerheks> and add it again
[23:06] <akk> Will try, thanks. Add it again with apt install firefox? Or with a snap command?
[23:06] <oerheks> your choice, both ways are valid
[23:10] <akk> That works -- thanks, oerheks! I'll do the same for chromium.
[23:11] <oerheks> have fun!
[23:12] <akk> As long as I'm here another question, about something much less important: apt source rxvt-unicode, then  debuild -b -uc -us, fails
[23:12] <akk> because a bunch of .h files cause: ./../libev/ev++.h:379:46: error: ISO C++17 does not allow dynamic exception specification
[23:13] <akk> I'm wondering how they managed to build urxvt for this release, and whether it's worth reporting this as a bug.
[23:14] <oerheks> !info rxvt-unicode impish
[23:15] <oerheks> but please keep your questions in one channel, cross posting is not appreciated
[23:16] <akk> yes, sorry for asking the original question in two places. This one, I only asked here.
[23:17] <akk> I'm running the urxvt binary I built on hirsuit, and it runs okay on impish, I just can't build it on impish.
[23:21] <sarnold> the 9.22-11 version may have been built before the changes that disabled dynamic exception specification with iso c++17
[23:21] <dbungert> akk: I can reproduce a build failure of rxvt-unicode against impish
[23:23] <akk> dbungert: This is what I do that fails:  apt source rxvt-unicode; cd rxvt-unicode-9.22/ ; debuild -b -uc -us
[23:26] <sarnold> akk: try adding -std=gnu++14 to the gcc command lines through whatever mechanism makes most sense for the package and your needs
[23:28] <akk> I'm not too good with autoconf and debuild, and the Makefile.in doesn't seem to have a CFLAGS. But one thing I should probably try first is that apt source suggested trying a git repo.
[23:29] <akk> So I'll try building that first.
[23:30] <akk> Yeah, the git repo builds, so maybe they just didn't get around to updating the apt source package.
[23:34] <oerheks> i wonder why, it is in our repos
[23:35] <akk> The git version built and installed fine except for a bunch of messages like "./etc/rxvt-unicode.terminfo", line 57, col 20, terminal 'rxvt-unicode': unknown capability 'kDC5'"
[23:36] <akk> Seems to run fine, and actually, I'm happier installing it that way because I don't have to pin the deb package.
[23:38] <ezakimak> how can I install a specific version set of nvidia packages? is there some extra repo that has all of them?
[23:38] <akk> alas, the purge trick didn't work for snap chromium: I did snap remove --purge chromium-browser; sudo apt purge chromium-browser; sudo apt install chromium-browser
[23:39] <ezakimak> I need 495.29.05 version of them all
[23:39] <akk> bbut I still get the "not a snap group" error
[23:47] <sarnold> akk: :( maybe ask in #snappy ?
[23:47] <lpv> Hi again ^^ guys how can I pin a portable app on the dock and associate file types to open with it?
[23:48] <sarnold> ezakimak: you can find binaries to download via clicking around on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-495
[23:50] <ezakimak> that just lists all 495.44.0 version
[23:51] <cbreak> nothing else is in the publishing history: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-495/+publishinghistory
[23:51] <sarnold> ezakimak: oh. then it may not have existed in ubuntu :(
[23:53] <cbreak> ezakimak: have you looked at https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads?target_os=Linux&target_arch=x86_64&Distribution=Ubuntu&target_version=20.04&target_type=deb_local ?
[23:55] <cbreak> after the sudo dpkg -i cuda-repo-ubuntu2004-11-5-local_11.5.0-495.29.05-1_amd64.deb step, you should have access to that version of the driver via apt
[23:55] <cbreak> (this will somewhat conflict with the stuff in ubuntu, and you might break things)
[23:56] <ezakimak> I just need my ubuntu-based docker image to match the driver version on the docker host so cuda will run
[23:59] <cbreak> no
[23:59] <cbreak> you need drivers that are NEWER or equal