[02:34] <KGB-2> gnome-session signed tags 2f75cc4 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/40.1.1-3ubuntu1 * gnome-session Debian release 40.1.1-3ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/ipIdz
[02:34] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master a82e5f6 Marco Trevisan * pushed 110 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/WxO2
[02:34] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master bdcca2f Benjamin Berg gnome-session/gsm-presence.c * presence: Do not auto-start the GNOME Shell screensaver service * https://deb.li/3ZImC
[02:34] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master 4f39a0a Benjamin Berg gnome-session/gsm-util.c * util: Unset LC_* variables as they may be unset at login time * https://deb.li/ADPh
[02:34] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master 72c2a2c Benjamin Berg NEWS meson.build * Release 40.1 * https://deb.li/30vuc
[02:34] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master 677f5e1 Benjamin Berg gnome-session/gsm-presence.c * presence: Fix error detection when syncing initial screensaver state * https://deb.li/d8K7
[02:34] <KGB-2> gnome-session ubuntu/master 930fc97 Benjamin Berg NEWS meson.build * Release 40.1.1 * https://deb.li/3Ywad
[02:55] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop signed tags bfb2820 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/41.1-1ubuntu1 * gnome-desktop3 Debian release 41.1-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/x8Fe
[02:56] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master c9b3de5 Marco Trevisan * pushed 64 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3KwN0
[02:56] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master 65eec4c Simon McVittie debian/changelog * New upstream release * https://deb.li/9u1A
[02:56] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master b482d21 Simon McVittie debian/libgnome-desktop-3-dev.lintian-overrides * Add Lintian override for #970275 * https://deb.li/3sDOi
[02:56] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master 09175fb Simon McVittie debian/upstream/metadata * d/upstream/metadata: Add * https://deb.li/CDdv
[02:56] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master 544451b Simon McVittie debian/ control control.in * Standards-Version: 4.6.0 (no changes required) * https://deb.li/3c8gn
[02:56] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop ubuntu/master 61a7c30 Simon McVittie debian/rules * Don't make all installed-tests files executable * https://deb.li/6IVs
[03:27] <KGB-2> gdm signed tags 3040be7 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/41.0-3ubuntu1 * gdm3 Debian release 41.0-3ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/iwuKU
[03:28] <KGB-2> gdm ubuntu/master a5c707c Marco Trevisan * pushed 206 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/KIuG
[03:28] <KGB-2> gdm ubuntu/master 8006b2c Ask Hjorth Larsen po/da.po * Updated Danish translation * https://deb.li/3NRSF
[03:28] <KGB-2> gdm ubuntu/master 5364916 Ray Strode NEWS meson.build * 41.0 * https://deb.li/RRai
[03:28] <KGB-2> gdm ubuntu/master 5fcf890 Simon McVittie NEWS meson.build po/da.po * New upstream version 41.0 * https://deb.li/3zoHh
[03:28] <KGB-2> gdm ubuntu/master 4106a87 Simon McVittie (15 files in 6 dirs) * Update upstream source from tag 'upstream/41.0' * https://deb.li/3PuSM
[03:28] <KGB-2> gdm ubuntu/master 1c9e4c9 Simon McVittie debian/changelog * New upstream release * https://deb.li/s8Qy
[06:35] <jibel> Good morning folks
[06:50] <duflu> Hi jibel 
[06:59] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:01] <ricotz> hello duflu oSoMoN 
[07:04] <jibel> Hey duflu oSoMoN ricotz 
[07:08] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN and ricotz 
[07:09] <didrocks> good morning
[07:09] <duflu> Hi didrocks 
[07:12] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz, jibel, duflu, didrocks 
[07:14] <didrocks> hey duflu, salut oSoMoN 
[07:17] <ricotz> hey jibel didrocks 
[07:22] <didrocks> hey ricotz 
[07:24] <jpnurmi> good morning
[07:24] <didrocks> hey jpnurmi 
[07:25] <jpnurmi> hey didrocks
[07:29] <oSoMoN> hey jpnurmi 
[07:29] <jpnurmi> hey oSoMoN
[07:30] <duflu> Hi jpnurmi 
[07:35] <jpnurmi> hey duflu
[08:07] <jibel> Hi didrocks jpnurmi 
[08:10] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[08:10] <seb128> hey jibel didrocks jpnurmi, how is it going?
[08:11] <jpnurmi> hey jibel and seb128
[08:14] <jpnurmi> seb128, having little problems with electricity. i had to call an electrician because half of the house lost power
[08:15] <seb128> :-(
[08:19] <ricotz> hello jpnurmi seb128 
[08:20] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you?
[08:20] <jpnurmi> hey ricotz
[08:22] <duflu> Hi seb128 
[08:23] <ricotz> seb128, all good, despite corona being back :\
[08:23] <seb128> indeed :-/
[08:23] <ricotz> seb128, regarding poppler, gdcm gets fixed by vtk7 :)
[08:24] <seb128> I saw, great!
[08:24] <ricotz> should be fine to pick up the remaining builds :) https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/green/+packages
[08:38] <didrocks> hey jibel, seb128 
[08:39] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 
[09:17] <seb128> lut didrocks, oSoMoN 
[09:17] <seb128> ricotz, ack, I will check that a bit later
[09:17] <seb128> bbl, need to drop from IRC
[10:27] <Nafallo> morning? :-D
[10:53] <jamesh> Trevinho: I've left you some more review feedback on https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/634
[11:36] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, any chance you could do the gnome-user-docs 41 merge from Debian?
[11:36] <seb128> tjaalton, hey, could you do the alsa merges sponsoring for Hui?
[11:40] <GunnarHj> seb128: I will, but was planning to wait until at least 41.1 is available.
[11:53] <tjaalton> seb128: yes, where?
[14:26] <seb128> tjaalton, thanks, https://code.launchpad.net/~hui.wang/ubuntu/+source/alsa-lib/+git/alsa-lib/+merge/412118 https://code.launchpad.net/~hui.wang/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+git/alsa-utils/+ref/merge https://code.launchpad.net/~hui.wang/ubuntu/+source/alsa-plugins/+git/alsa-plugins/+ref/merge
[14:26] <seb128> tjaalton, unsure why he didn't mp the utils and plugins one, perhaps because they require lib and he wanted that uploaded first?
[15:49] <schopin> Hi all! I have two questions related to the upcoming OpenSSL3 transition: 1. is the Firefox package in the archive going to stick around for jammy? I though it was replaced by a snap, so I didn't bother trying to fix its build, but I still see a package in the jammy archive.
[15:51] <schopin> and 2. do you have some ways to test WiFi stuff? SPecifically regarding old protocols and stuff. wpa_supplicant might be crippled by the transition as a lot of algorithms are now disabled by default, but it's not caught by autopkgtests.
[15:57] <oerheks> answer 1; firefox is already a snap
[15:58] <oerheks> no clue ( read information)  about question 2
[16:04] <schopin> yep, I just confirmed that on my system firefox is a snap. Still, I'm wondering why we still have the package in the archive?
[16:07] <oerheks> conveniance, i guess.
[16:24] <RikMills> The .deb is still seeded on some flavour images for now. AFAIK, that will have to change and the .deb will be removed at some point
[16:24] <RikMills> timing of that......
[16:24]  * RikMills shrugs
[16:31] <oSoMoN> schopin, the firefox deb will become a transitional package that installs the snap at some point during this cycle, but I don't have an ETA to share
[16:33] <oSoMoN> until then we continue pushing updates, if there are issues with the openSSL transition don't hesitate to file a bug and assign to me
[16:39] <schopin> oSoMoN: well, there's already LP: #1945770 :)
[16:40] <oSoMoN> heh, sorry I didn't remember about it
[16:40] <oSoMoN> schopin, I'll take a look next week
[16:41] <schopin> no worries :)
[16:41] <schopin> I'll file a bug for the wpa_supplicant thing too.
[16:53] <ricotz> schopin, hi, regarding openssl3 are intentions to use it in favor of gnutls28?
[16:54] <schopin> I haven't been aware of any plans involving a mass migration. Do you have particular packages in mind?
[16:56] <ricotz> schopin, libreoffice would be one which is using openssl upstream, but in ubuntu/debian gnutls28 is used
[16:57] <ricotz> schopin, is debian doing such a migration?
[16:57] <schopin> I am sorry, I do not know.
[16:58] <ricotz> ok, I assumed some master plan here :), like trusting openssl again and use it more widely
[16:59] <schopin> I believe we're planning on using it in apt, though. (if I'm not mistaken, juliank?) 
[17:00] <juliank> ricotz: schopin yes, I want to port apt from gnutls to openssl
[17:00] <juliank> ricotz: Packages that have backends for both and are APache 2 compatible in license should most likely be switched to openssl 3, yes
[17:00] <juliank> gnutls is a lot cleaner, but also a lot more buggy
[17:01] <ricotz> juliank, I see, thanks for the info
[17:01] <juliank> I had at least two issues recently because stuff was using gnutls and it did not work whereas openssl worked just fine
[17:02] <juliank> it was the let's encrypt root cert expiry, and an incomplete certificate chain
[17:03] <ricotz> yes, diverging from upstream defaults (like for libreoffice) might not be the best choice
[17:04] <juliank> I wish for a future where gnutls is in universe
[17:07] <juliank> heh well no gnutls at all :D
[17:07] <juliank> openssl API is hard
[17:10] <juliank> I very much prefer gnutls from the development experience, it's so much cleaner. But nobody tests with it, it's mostly a 2nd choice at best, it randomly fails where openssl works (and no, it does not matter if openssl is right or not), and there are less eyes on it, causing security issues to linger