[00:00] <ezakimak> the host has 295.25.05, with 295.44 it does not work. it errors with a driver mismatch message
[00:00] <cbreak> for cuda 11.5, https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-toolkit-release-notes/index.html, version 450.80.02 should be new enough
[00:01] <cbreak> but I've used cuda 10.0, 10.1, 10.3, 11.0 and 11.3 images on a machine with the drivers from cuda 11.3 (which I think were 465 or so)
[00:02] <ezakimak> E tensorflow/stream_executor/cuda/cuda_diagnostics.cc:313] kernel version 495.29.5 does not match DSO version 495.44.0 -- cannot find working devices in this configuration
[00:03] <cbreak> that looks screwy
[00:03] <cbreak> I use tensorflow (without docker) with various driver versions, no such issues
[00:05] <cbreak> which cuda version was your TF compiled for?
[00:05] <cbreak> probably 11.5?
[00:05] <ezakimak> actually it was originally compiled against driver 460 something
[00:06] <ezakimak> ah, cuda-compat-11-2=460.32.03-1
[00:06] <ezakimak> and the other cuda libs all 11.2.152-1
[00:07] <cbreak> so newer drivers shouldn't be an issue
[00:07] <cbreak> did you compile tf yourself?
[00:07] <cbreak> or custom cuda ops?
[00:07] <ezakimak> I dunno, it's a docker build, I didn't create it
[00:07] <ezakimak> looks like all deb packages
[00:08] <cbreak> google's tensorflow docker?
[00:08] <ezakimak> no, built up from ubuntu base
[00:08] <cbreak> hmm :/
[00:09] <cbreak> I'd either use an nvidia/cuda docker as base, or just a docker from google / tensorflow directly as base
[00:09] <cbreak> (if I wanted to use docker to run TF)
[00:09] <ezakimak> it works elsewhere, just not on my particular docker host atm
[00:09] <ezakimak> it worked before, an earlier version
[00:56] <marc_> Can anyone tell me where xorg.conf file is its not in usr
[00:57] <sarnold> marc_: in the usual case it isn't a file on disk for most users for the last ~15 years, maybe more
[00:57] <marc_> last time i used linux was gentoo x64 13 years ago
[00:58] <sarnold> hmm I would have guessed it to have been unecessary even then
[00:58] <sarnold> heh
[00:58] <marc_> I installed ubuntu today
[00:59] <sarnold> so, you can generate something for your system with xorg -configure  -- that'll do the autodiscovery of eveyrthing and write out a config that matches what it found. *but* that's vast overkill, you can supply just the fragments you want to override
[00:59] <akk> I think xorg.conf started being phased out sometime around 2006-2008
[00:59] <marc_> i got a server board and the onboard graphics is matrox g200ex and its stuck in 1024
[00:59] <sarnold> I'm not entirely sure exactly how to do the partial replacement, I've never needed it
[00:59] <sarnold> oh zounds I think I had a g200 ~20 years back
[00:59] <sarnold> or was that 400? heh
[01:00] <marc_> so how do i fix this
[01:00] <akk> xrandr doesn't list any other resolutions?
[01:01] <marc_> nope
[01:01] <marc_> should do 1920 x 1080
[01:03] <Bashing-om> !info xserver-xorg-video-mga focal
[01:03] <sarnold> Bashing-om: niiiiiiice
[01:04] <marc_> when i left windows 10 the onboard card was on 1920 x 1080 75hz
[01:04] <Bashing-om> sarnold: Matrox is sorta left out in left field - do not know how apt that ^ driver might be.
[01:05] <sarnold> Bashing-om: it seems *really* plausible :)
[01:05] <marc_> are there no config files i can alter
[01:05] <sarnold> marc_: try installing the package Bashing-om found, restart X, see if that does the trick
[01:05] <genii> You can add custom resolutions to xrandr
[01:11] <akk> I'm trying to report a bug about that snap issue, and ubuntu-bug says I have two versions of snapd installed: snapd-2.53.2 (latest beta) snap, and snapd 2.53+21.10ubuntu1 deb package.
[01:11] <marc_> how do you add them
[01:11] <akk> I have never intentionally installed any snapd; this is what I got from do-release-upgrade. Should I remove one somehow?
[01:12] <sarnold> akk: I think that's entirely normal, though uninstalling the deb will probably make filing the bug report easier
[01:13] <akk> Turns out I have to choose the deb to report a bug; the other one says there's no address to use for a bug report.
[01:14] <genii> marc_: There is an example here of how to add a 1920 x 1080 mode https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/227876/how-to-set-custom-resolution-using-xrandr-when-the-resolution-is-not-available-i
[01:14] <marc_> thanks
[01:19] <marc_> any idea where xrandr stores its config file if it does that its easier to edit a file than type out commands
[01:19] <sarnold> I think xrandr only makes live changes, no config file
[01:20] <marc_> has gentoo gone this way of live changes as well
[01:21] <marc_> cos i dont like it
[01:22] <sarnold> everything has, I expect 99.9% of Xorg users don't need xorg.conf files of any sort
[01:22] <marc_> I would much rather have the xorg.conf file
[01:23] <sarnold> man not me, I wasted too much of my life trying to get my modelines juuuuust right, and handling the input devices I had, etc.. :)
[01:23] <marc_> I hope linux isnt going the way of MS windows that would be a disaster.
[01:24] <sarnold> it's still possible to waste time on input devices, of course, goofing around with libinput settings for touchpads is still a tried-and-true linux tradition
[01:27] <akk> I'm with sarnold, definitely don't miss xorg.conf hacking. That was right up there with sendmail.cf.
[01:28] <marc_> ok without sounding old school is there any linux distros that used the old xorg.conf
[01:28] <sarnold> oh god you've reminded me of another hundred hours I want back :)
[01:28] <sarnold> marc_: xorg -configure   to generate one, and then edit away! :)
[01:29] <marc_> ok good.
[01:30] <Bashing-om> marc_: Real old - but if you must do xorg.conf. might get some hints: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1316035 .
[01:33] <marc_> ok thanks
[01:35] <sarnold> Bashing-om: nice find
[01:43] <marc_> ok i did it i changed resolution without xorg.conf but i got it wrong so try again :))
[01:44] <Bashing-om> marc_: Good man :) .. If at 1st you do not succeed ---- try try again and again :P
[01:47] <DHE> is upstart (or any other /sbin/init alternative) available for focal lts? can't find the packages I would expect
[01:49] <Bashing-om> DHE: Bo not know if this will help >>
[01:50] <sarnold> heya DHE :) upstart never made it to bionic .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1649310
[01:50] <Bashing-om> !info unity | DHE
[01:50] <Bashing-om> !unity
[01:50] <sarnold> DHE: there's s6 but .. you'd probably be the first to try it out: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/s6
[01:51] <sarnold> DHE: sysvinit is still kicking around, and probably has more users in debian than s6, it might work better out of the box https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit
[01:52] <sarnold> (I kind of expected to see that yanked from ubuntu, but there it is :)
[01:52] <DHE> so sideload debian packages?
[01:53] <DHE> sorry I'm not normally an ubuntu user. someone else asked me to help with getting a system up.... :/
[01:54] <mwhudson> avoiding systemd on ubuntu is definitely swimming against the tide
[01:54] <sarnold> DHE: you should be able to get there with ubuntu packages, but if you really want a deb-ish system without systemd, you may have better luck on devuan or debian
[01:54] <mwhudson> so i don't think you'd be helping that person if you did that
[01:55] <DHE> mwhudson: unfortunately I'm in an uncomfortable situation. systemd can't run. it's a strange, container-ish environment and cgroups aren't available, among other things. so I'm taking 99% odds it just won't run.
[01:55] <mwhudson> oh blargh
[01:56] <sarnold> openvz on rhel6 or something?
[01:57] <DHE> probably pretty close....
[01:58] <mwhudson> pay for trusty ESM? (not really)
[03:03] <webchat99> Hello
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> welcome webchat99
[03:04] <webchat99> I'd like to ask if anyone could help me with a problem
[03:04] <YWH_1> what is it webchat99?
[03:05] <webchat99> I cannot log in normally, my screen shows a white screen with "Oh no! Something has gone wrong"
[03:05] <YWH_1> is this a new install or have you logged in before?
[03:05] <webchat99> But I could login normally with ctrl+alt+F2 and typing startx
[03:06] <Belamos> webchat99, your "gdm" is broken
[03:06] <webchat99> I've been using this install for some months now
[03:06] <Belamos> webchat99, try switching to "kdm" or similar
[03:06] <webchat99> Belamos how can I switch?
[03:06] <Belamos> this could be because of a number of reasons,  but instead of bugfixing it, just switch to "kdm" - you can still start into "gnome" from there
[03:06] <Belamos> webchat99, are you comfortable with the command line?
[03:07] <webchat99> Not very much
[03:07] <webchat99> But I'm willing to try
[03:08] <Belamos> webchat99, let me quickly look up a command... from the top of my head, it should be something with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[03:08] <Belamos> but hold on for a moment, I want to be sure
[03:08] <Belamos> do you even have KDE installed?
[03:08] <webchat99> Ok, thank you very much
[03:08] <webchat99> I don't think so, how can I check?
[03:08] <Belamos> apt install kubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <Belamos> that is going to install a LOT of stuff... but alongside, also "kdm"
[03:09] <Belamos> and then you switch from "gdm" to "kdm" and that should solve it
[03:09] <Belamos> your login screen will look different - but it should solve the problem
[03:09] <Belamos> bugfixing why gdm is broken would probably take longer - much longer
[03:09] <Belamos> and again, you can boot from kdm into gnome as you're used to
[03:10] <webchat99> Thanks, it's installing now, how can I change to kdm once it's finished? (And also change back in case things go wrong immediatly haha)
[03:10] <Belamos> and yes,  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"  or  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"  respectively should do the trick
[03:11] <Belamos> there you can change what software should greet you after booting up
[03:11] <webchat99> Ok
[03:11] <Belamos> webchat99, how long will the installation take?
[03:11] <Belamos> I can stay here until then
[03:11] <Belamos> but only if you have a decent internet connection ;)
[03:11] <webchat99> 2m remaining
[03:12] <Belamos> god damn,  your internet connection is brilliant then
[03:12] <Belamos> you have downloaded the entire kubuntu-desktop in a matter of minutes?
[03:12] <webchat99> Really variable tho --'
[03:14] <webchat99> To be that fast for 330MB  surprised too
[03:14] <Belamos> oh, I thought it were bigger
[03:14] <Belamos> has it finished installing, or is the installation still running?
[03:15] <webchat99> A message appeared
[03:15] <webchat99> Something about setting encfs
[03:15] <Belamos> webchat99, is it about choosing "kdm" or "gdm" by any chance?
[03:15] <sarnold> encfs? o_O
[03:16] <Belamos> sarnold, a FUSE-based cryptographic filesystem
[03:16] <webchat99> Now there is, ssdm or gdm3
[03:16] <Belamos> ssdm
[03:16] <sarnold> Belamos: yeah... I ran it for a few weeks a decade back. it ate so many files..
[03:16] <sarnold> Belamos: I wonder if it ate something important here
[03:16] <sarnold> I don't know how many times I've got to learn the lesson that fuse is just a toy
[03:17] <Belamos> webchat99, after you're done, you should be able to boot up your computer normally
[03:17] <Belamos> webchat99, make sure, that you choose "gnome" when you log in
[03:17] <Belamos> otherwise you will end up in KDE
[03:17] <Belamos> I admit, my "solution" is more a hack,  but it will work, so ... who cares ;)
[03:17] <Belamos> sarnold, I personally love LUKS
[03:18] <sarnold> Belamos: aye. I mean I dread ever needing to troubleshoot this thing, but it mostly just works, sooooo...
[03:18] <Belamos> if anybody reads this,  I could actually also need somebody to hold my hand for a moment (but after I am done with webchat99)
[03:18] <Belamos> it's about video codes and stuff
[03:18] <webchat99> As long as it works, I'm fine with it, its getting late and I have work tomorrow, so I'm getting pretty desperate
[03:18] <Belamos> webchat99, so, we're on the same page here ;)
[03:19] <sarnold> Belamos: do I remember you're trying to do video editing?
[03:20] <Belamos> sarnold, I have learned how to edit videos in the past 2 days
[03:20] <sarnold> \o/
[03:20] <Belamos> sarnold, now I am pretty good in it  (transitions, effects, text, music,  etc.)
[03:20] <Belamos> but I need help with the technical side of things - I must check (in the shell / ffmpeg or similar) if the video has all the right codecs and stuff
[03:21] <Belamos> mhm... webchat99 has left the chat.  They probably rebooted.  Or they forgot me ;)
[03:22] <Belamos> Here, this is what I need to deliver the video as:
[03:22] <Belamos> https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171
[03:22] <Belamos> I have no idea what any of this means.
[03:22] <Belamos> "moov atom" at the front... (in the category "Container: MP4")
[03:23] <Belamos> how can I check if I have the right audio and video codec?
[03:23] <Belamos> how can I check if my framerate is correct?
[03:23] <Belamos> re webchat99
[03:23] <Belamos> how did it go?
[03:23] <webchat99> I could login, the screen was blue instead of purple and with some different buttons
[03:24] <Belamos> please rate this solution on a scale from 1-10 ?
[03:24] <Belamos> are you satisfied with this solution?  Or is this not what you wanted?
[03:24] <sarnold> Belamos: ffprobe can dump a lot of information about a file
[03:24] <Belamos> sarnold, I should have thought of that... thank you!!
[03:24] <sarnold> Belamos: there may be better ways to get there, but it's something I already had installed and worked on a file I had :)
[03:25] <webchat99> A solid 9 out of 10, it works really well for the time being, but someday I'd like to change it back
[03:25] <Belamos> sarnold, I just stumbled upon ffprobe today (first time in my life) - thank you for reminding me
[03:25] <Belamos> webchat99, yeah, sure.  It was just a quick hack
[03:26] <webchat99> Thank you very much, really
[03:26] <Belamos> webchat99, no worries, IRC is a friendly place
[03:26] <Belamos> well, this IRC server, that is
[03:26] <sarnold> heh yeah there's some that are best avoided..
[03:27] <webchat99> It's my first time here, I tried searching for what could be happening, but it only listed help for manjaro
[03:27] <Belamos> webchat99, you might want to:
[03:27] <webchat99> I'm really glad that I was able to find help here
[03:27] <Belamos> webchat99, sudo snap install hexchat
[03:27] <Belamos> webchat99, then add the server:  "irc.libera.chat"  manually
[03:27] <Belamos> that brings you onto this network here
[03:28] <Belamos> you can then check out all channels,  like  #linux,  #ubuntu,  #php,  #mysql,  etc.
[03:28] <Belamos> without the comma (,) at the end
[03:28] <Belamos> webchat99, alternatively,  you can use "apt" if you don't want it to be a self-updating snap
[03:29] <webchat99> Is it better than from URL? https://web.libera.chat/?nick=webchat?#ubuntu
[03:29] <Belamos> yes!
[03:29] <Belamos> it is a client, that connects you to the IRC protocol
[03:29] <Belamos> the webchat is ... well... a webchat only
[03:29] <Belamos> you can use an installed program to get into this chat
[03:29] <Belamos> webchat99, take a leap of faith, and try it
[03:30] <webchat99> I'm installing it right now
[03:30] <Belamos> attaperson
[03:31] <webchat99> OK, I think I did something wrong
[03:31] <webchat99>  No channel joined. Try /join #<channel>
[03:31] <webchat99>  Not connected. Try /server <host> [<port>
[03:32] <Belamos> type exactly this:
[03:32] <Belamos> /server irc.libera.chat
[03:32] <Belamos> then wait until you are connected
[03:32] <Belamos> then type:
[03:32] <Belamos> /nick webchat_now_hexchat
[03:32] <Belamos> /join #ubuntu
[03:33] <Belamos> :)
[03:33] <Belamos> hi
[03:33] <webchat_now_hexc> Ow, it worked!
[03:33] <Belamos> webchat_now_hexc, yep...
[03:33] <Belamos> and now, you can check out all the beautiful channels
[03:33] <webchat_now_hexc> How can I get it to display emojis like the site version?
[03:33] <Belamos> like #php  #mysql  #perl #design #photoshop  #gimp  #blender  and so on
[03:34] <Belamos> webchat_now_hexc, don't... just... don't.... IRC is a no-emojie place
[03:34] <Belamos> that's the beauty of it... plain and simple, good old IRC
[03:34] <webchat_now_hexc> Thanks a lot, I'll see if there is one for python3
[03:34] <Belamos> webchat_now_hexc, yes, of course
[03:34] <Belamos> webchat_now_hexc, also for frameworks of python
[03:35] <sarnold> 🍻
[03:35] <Belamos> You might want to look into the dialogue CTRL + S
[03:35] <Belamos> that opens the server list where you can set your nick
[03:35] <Belamos> /msg nickserv help register
[03:35] <Belamos> ^ also interesting
[03:35] <linsux> how do i install latest thunderbird?
[03:35] <linsux> 20.04.3
[03:36] <Belamos> linsux, let me check snap... brb
[03:36] <linsux> don't want to install snap or flatpak
[03:36] <Belamos> linsux, then I cannot help
[03:36] <linsux> i don't have much space
[03:36] <Belamos> linsux, maybe you find some private repo,  but that might be risky
[03:37] <Bashing-om> webchat_now_hexc: Now be a good time to pick your nick and "register" the account; see the output : /msg nickserv help register .
[03:38] <webchat_now_hexc> Is there a way to make hexchat appearance more modern? It seems a bit blocky and I can't find what to do in settings
[03:38] <linsux> ppa:mozillateam/ppa  is this legit
[03:38] <Belamos> Bashing-om,  <Belamos> /msg nickserv help register
[03:38] <Belamos> linsux, I cannot answer that,  maybe somebody else can
[03:38] <sarnold> linsux: do you have snapd already installed? if so, the thunderbird snap is 102 megs.. but trying to install the thunderbird deb shows me: After this operation, 211 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[03:39] <Bashing-om> Belamos: I admit I be slow :(
[03:39] <Belamos> webchat_now_hexc, that's the _beauty_ of it!
[03:39] <Belamos> webchat_now_hexc, there is always "wine" and "mirc"  (just kidding)
[03:39] <Belamos> webchat_now_hexc, hexchat is cool the way it is :)
[03:40] <Belamos> webchat_now_hexc, there are many IRC clients - maybe you like an other one more
[03:41] <Belamos> webchat_now_hexc, or, you use IO::Sockets (the CPAN module) and create your own client in accordance to RFC 1459
[03:41] <webchat_now_hexc> Hmm, I guess I should've changed my nickname before registering this one
[03:42] <linsux> should i use snap or flatpak
[03:43] <Belamos> linsux, that is your decision.  "snap" does the updating itself.
[03:44] <juniorom>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER webchat_now_hexc 9hqnTvyhr9SZgJQL
[03:44] <sarnold> juniorom: be careful with those leading spces..
[03:45] <Belamos> juniorom, everyone just saw that
[03:45] <Bashing-om> webchat99: you can drop it with ' /msg nickserv DROP <nickname> <password> ' and then re-register.
[03:45] <juniorom> Thanks, I will be careful
[03:45] <linsux> irc is kinda old technology with these flaws
[03:45] <Belamos> juniorom, you should enter such things in the server tab,  not in the channel tab
[03:45] <Belamos> juniorom, this provides some safety net
[03:45] <linsux> it's not safe
[03:46] <Belamos> linsux, well, if they add a space at the beginning in the server tab, we won't see it, now will we?
[03:46] <linsux> it's a common mistake to have a space
[03:46] <linsux> it's just a space
[03:46] <juniorom> The server tab is the one named Libera.Chat, right?
[03:46] <Belamos> yes, juniorom
[03:46] <juniorom> Thanks
[03:46] <Belamos> juniorom, if you type something wrong there, we won't see it
[03:46] <Belamos> e.g. leading spaces
[03:52] <juniorom> I think it worked now
[03:53] <Belamos> congrats, juniorom
[03:53] <Belamos> Is anyone of you by any chance good when it comes to video editing?
[03:54] <Belamos> I am still stuck with the requirements laid out by google in regards to youtube videos
[03:55] <sarnold> are you generating video entirely in the computer? or are you starting with input from cameras or phones or already existing files?
[03:55] <Belamos> sarnold, the input comes from a camera
[03:56] <Belamos> for crying out loud, the generated video is NOT 4K
[03:56] <Belamos> I go crazy here... programming is so much easier
[03:56] <Belamos> I rather think about memory allocation and data types than clicking around in a GUI
[03:58] <sarnold> Belamos: as far as I understand it, it's best to try to get the quality as high as you can as early in the production process, and avoid converting etc..
[03:59] <Belamos> sarnold, I am working on 4K videos with proxy clips
[04:01] <Belamos> sarnold, do you actually also get the feeling, that the younger / newer generation of Linux users doesn't use the command line any more?
[04:01] <Belamos> I feel like the command line came more natural to linux users 15-20 years ago compared to the new users now
[04:01] <Belamos> (still thinking about webchat99)
[04:05] <sarnold> Belamos: it varies, some folks know it way better than I do, because they're more eager to embrace things like fish or ptpython or nbterm or oilshell or whatever, and can really make it *theirs* ..
[04:05] <sarnold> Belamos: and a lot of old-timers are set in their ways and still try to use ancient tools like ifconfig or route that can't handle the full depth of the linux networking stack
[04:06] <sarnold> Belamos: I'm guessing it's less to do with age and more to do with just how eager people are to learn what's there vs build new things vs just want to browse the web etc :)
[04:06] <Belamos> what's wrong with ifconfig??  Don't take away ifconfig!
[04:11] <sarnold> last I heard it didn't know how to work with multiple IPs per interface, it required using interface aliases instead
[04:12] <sarnold> and it didn't work with bridges at all
[04:17] <Belamos> sarnold, I just googled it... what is your alternative program?
[04:17] <Belamos> sarnold, by the way, I will leave very soon, I am totally exhausted (it's 6 AM here)
[04:20] <Belamos> sarnold, let us continue this chat an other day.
[04:20] <Belamos> I am really sleepy.
[04:20] <Belamos> thank you for the nice time we had!
[04:20] <Belamos> see you soon
[04:20] <Belamos> sleep well
[04:37] <msim_> heyo i'm a bit stuck trying to upgrade to jammy from focal
[04:37] <msim_> i keep getting the "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade." error
[04:37] <msim_> so i checked apt.log
[04:37] <msim_> and there's 165 broken packages
[04:37] <Bashing-om> !jammy
[04:38] <msim_> oh i see so it's trying to upgrade to a prerelease
[04:38] <msim_> ehm in that case i'm not sure if i should ask here or there, how can i ugprade to the latest, stable, release?
[04:39] <Bashing-om> msim_: -next is best :D
[04:39] <msim_> sure, thanks :D
[04:43] <msim_> actually since i'm here, on another note - the whole reason i'm trying to upgrade is because i'm trying to create a .deb package for a piece of software. the thing is, we rely on qtbase5-dev >5.15, but focal (afaik, the latest LTS release) only has 5.12, whereas the newer versions have >5.15. after thinking about it for a bit, i think the better way to solve this is either link a static version of the qt libs, or ship the qt dynamic libs on the side.
[04:43] <msim_>  am i missing something here or are these my only options?
[04:44] <msim_> (again sorry, i'm not sure if this is the best place to ask)
[06:27] <hal8999> Can someone help me out? I'm on 21.10, my computer had a power outage and now i'm stuck with fsck message, no GDM working, and no network. I'm not sure what happened
[06:27] <hal8999> I am able to login to tty1-6
[06:29] <hal8999> it also tells me my eth devices are unmanaged
[06:31] <Bashing-om> hal8999: "power outage" >> run a file system check/repair from the liveUSB.
[06:33] <hal8999> did, it passed
[06:37] <rfm> hal8999, ok, after getting the system disk clean, what happens when you boot from that?
[06:42] <rfm> Sneaking suspicion that hal8999 did not boot from  a livecd/liveusb and fsck the root.
[06:43] <rfm> hal8999, if you are not going to deal with us straight, we cannot help you.
[06:43] <rfm> And I'm off to bed anyway
[07:23] <Enissay> Any advice for Sharex like tool for Ubuntu ? I am mostly interested in the ease of Screenshot+Annotation/edit part... I tried flameshot but it is very very limited and buggy
[07:33] <TheBigK> nice, since last chromium update the gpu decoding works again. Happy :)
[09:58] <slumfat> Hey
[09:59] <slumfat> Anything here
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> !support | slumfat
[10:16] <slumfat> Hello
[10:21] <slumfat> Hi
[10:22] <KBar> slumfat, hello and welcome to the official Ubuntu support channel. Do you have any questions?
[10:23] <slumfat> No
[10:23] <slumfat> Kbar no
[10:25] <oerheks> slumfat, oke, have fun, chit chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:26] <slumfat> Thank kbar
[10:29] <Guest7350> Hiiii
[10:30] <oerheks> :-)
[10:30] <Guest7350> how are you
[10:57] <Pokos22> hello
[10:58] <Pokos22> can someone help me?
[10:58] <oerheks> Hi Pokos22, ask wait and see
[10:59] <Pokos22> i am using ubuntu 20.04 lts. i have installed another DE , but i want GDM to have gnome as default login
[10:59] <Pokos22> is there any way to do this?
[10:59] <Pokos22> GDM seems to remember the last choice and use that as default
[11:00] <oerheks> and what is the other one, SDDM?
[11:01] <Pokos22> no, no login manager. i only use GDM as login manager. and as desktop environments i have gnome and xfce
[11:01] <Pokos22> but i want gdm to always use gnome as the default, unless i select xfce for that session
[11:04] <oerheks> xfce uses lightdm, IIRC...
[11:05] <Pokos22> you have no clue what i am talking about, do you
[11:06] <oerheks> i understand what you ask for, i have no ready answer to this issue, except install those desktops side-by-side
[11:07] <jkc> !ops
[11:07] <oerheks> maybe someone else reading here ?
[11:07] <jkc> Pokos22 has crossposted this question across at least three different channels and is using either Arch or Debian.
[11:07] <oerheks> no need to trigger the ops for that
[11:08] <jkc> Given his behavior in the other channels, I decided to.
[11:08] <oerheks> just say so... and if he did not got answered in other channels, i understand, there is no logical answer
[11:08] <Pokos22> jkc is a troll
[11:08] <Pokos22> pay no attention to him
[11:09] <jkc> oerheks: It was within the same 60 seconds.
[11:09] <tomreyn> Pokos22: please don't cross-post
[11:09] <oerheks> oh oke, that is 'real' cross posting'
[11:09] <Pokos22> stop trolling dude, you already got banned in archlinux
[11:09] <Pokos22> i work for freenode, cut the shit
[11:09] <oerheks> Pokos22, if other channels give a solution, let me know
[11:09] <jkc> He also said he was using Arch and/or Debian, not Ubuntu. So there's also a concern of relevance to this channel.
[11:11] <Pokos22> listen i did crosspost
[11:11] <Pokos22> that doesnt change in the least bit the fact, that jkc is a pathetic no-lifer
[11:12] <Pokos22> that has nothing better to do, than instantly report me in all channels
[11:12] <Pokos22> noone likes snitches my dude, not sure if you learned that. have fun in life with that mindset
[11:13] <oerheks> move on ..
[11:13]  * alkisg was ready to post a solution, and wasn't even concerned too much about the cross-posting, but I'll refrain until the bad language stops...
[11:13] <alkisg> So yeah snitches are a lot better than bad-languagers
[11:14] <oerheks> hi alkisg there *is* a solution?
[11:14] <Pokos22> alkisg there is no good or bad language sir
[11:15] <ravage> my favorite part was the "freenode admin" :) not sure what relevance that as in general and especially on libera :D
[11:15] <alkisg> Pokos22: there's no point in blaming someone that respects the rules, just because it's against you at that time
[11:15] <Pokos22> only means to convey meaning. and this dude is a pathetic nolifer. thats the case
[11:15] <Pokos22> alkisg are the rules to call ops and snitch on all channels?
[11:16] <alkisg> Just accept the blame and go on
[11:16] <alkisg> I'd look into /var/lib/AccountsService for the saved session info
[11:16] <alkisg> # grep Session /var/lib/AccountsService/users/alkisg
[11:16] <alkisg> Session=mate
[11:16] <alkisg> Pokey: cross-posting is against the rules, yeah. Anyway, as oerheks said, just say "I'm sorry" and move on man
[11:17] <oerheks> he is gone
[11:19] <tomreyn> sorry for interrupting your on topic chat there, alkisg. but it wasn't getting any better.
[11:20] <Pokey> alkisg: you alrighty there? Got the wrong guy I reckon
[11:20] <alkisg> No worries, thanks for intervening :)
[11:20] <alkisg> Pokey: yes, sorry :)
[11:20] <Pokey> It's ok :P
[11:21] <alkisg> I was going for Pokos22 but Matrix decided a different thing for me :D
[11:21] <Pokey> I was poked
[11:21] <tomreyn> jkc: as oerheks already told you: there is no need to call the ops (and stir things up) just due to cross posting.
[11:22]  * oerheks waiting for a paste about switching sessions
[11:37] <nikolam> How am I supposed to share a file over Skype/any app that is running inside the Ubuntu Snap ?
[11:38] <oerheks> nikolam, go into system settings > applications > permission of that app
[11:38] <nikolam> Application running in Snap seems does not have access to regular filesystem it is isolatad as I see in /snap/appname/ and can't open files to send from other parts of the disk. Drag and drop also does not work.
[11:38] <oerheks> maybe you can grant access to other folders/external storage?
[11:40] <nikolam> oerheks, I am on Xubuntu.
[11:40] <oerheks> on xubuntu i don't know where those permissions reside
[11:41] <bind9noob> is it possible to send images here? I'm having too much trouble configuring bind9 DNS private static IP network according to the config diagram
[11:42] <nikolam> oerheks, what is the name of the app for setting up snap permissions?
[11:42] <oerheks> nikolam, on comandline ; https://askubuntu.com/questions/1291778/how-can-i-manage-a-snap-application-permissions-using-command-line
[11:42] <oerheks> bind9noob, imgur is free
[11:43] <nikolam> I can also install GNOME apps it is also GTK based if I know GUI app name.. or if it woul then just pull all the GNOME with it..?
[11:44] <oerheks> a gnome app would pull *some* parts in, yes
[11:44] <bind9noob> ok, this is the rough diagram for my private static IPv4 network, I had no problem pinging their respective IP addresses - https://imgur.com/a/xs3RWAo
[11:45] <nikolam> oerheks, aBtw, skubuntu.com requires me to submit my personal information to Google and googleapis, because it's staff is somehow unable to have Google-independent web site.. Cookie banner is all over the content..
[11:45] <bind9noob> but ping/dig their DNS names always show the error "Name or service not known", which means the A records in my forward zone file for each VM is not registering for some reason
[11:48] <nikolam> There is that 'Snap store' and under aplication name there is "set permissions" and shitch that allows snap application to acces files under user /home folder
[11:49] <nikolam> But I suppose snap does not allow to set access permission for Snap application, to an arbitrary folder
[11:51] <nikolam> So basically I need to copy/p[aste content to somewhere in /home/username folders so that Snap application can access it, including copy/paste
[11:55] <oerheks> re-install that snap with  --classic  ??
[11:55] <oerheks> that removes the confinement.
[12:00] <nikolam> I have another Skype installed form .deb for another account, so I use it to have 2 Skype accounts on same desktop user
[12:01] <nikolam> But well, I use snap installed Skype less often anyway
[12:01] <oerheks> maybe it is only skype that does so..
[12:01] <oerheks> who cares? binairy blob
[12:07] <bind9noob> just in case there's any glaring errors in my named.conf local, forward and reverse zone files for the parent VM and one of the children VM - https://imgur.com/a/FzfeY4o
[12:07] <bind9noob> FYI this is the aim for my private static IPv4 network - https://imgur.com/a/xs3RWAo
[12:11] <bind9noob> tried editing A and PTR records, removing a few entries, adding a few entries, changing the hostnames but no matter what the error message when ping/dig is always "Name or service not known"
[12:59] <InternetWarrior> windows > ubuntu
[13:00] <oerheks> do you have an Ubuntu support issue, InternetWarrior ?
[13:02] <ravage> >>> print("windows" > "ubuntu") -> True; just do give a qualified answer here
[13:03] <Guest2030> hello dont dc me i was writing my question
[13:03] <Guest2030> oerheks hello, im glad that size of ubuntu is smaller than windows. And yes I have an issue. I cant get nvidia mem junc temps to show on ubuntu, the nvidia forums said they dont do it that its  a 3rd party thing. What is the correct place to go ask for temps
[13:04] <oerheks>  nvidia mem junc temps, not sure lmsensors cover that
[13:04] <oerheks> !lmsensors
[13:05] <oerheks> or check out this snap;  https://snapcraft.io/indicator-sensors
[13:05] <Guest2030> I can get core sensors to display, but not mem junc.
[13:06] <oerheks> never heard/read that is possible.. not even on windows?
[13:07] <Guest2030> yea you can in windows for example with hwinfo64
[13:07] <Guest2030> the gddrx6 memory is running very hot so it would be good to know
[13:07] <Guest2030> since it will not warn, just start thermal throttle
[13:07] <Guest2030> for memory the throttling starts at 110C
[13:07] <oerheks> no clue further, check out lmsensors and that snap?
[13:07] <Guest2030> they dont seem to have
[13:08] <oerheks> gddr6 can run hot, up to 100'C..
[13:08] <oerheks> so, i guess it might be normal
[13:09] <Guest2030> gddr6x is much hotter
[13:09] <Guest2030> i did quick google to find a picture for you how it is displayed on hwinfo
[13:09] <Guest2030> https://cryptomining-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/hwinfo-6-42-sensor-status.jpg
[13:10] <oerheks> not relevant if our tools do not have such option
[13:10] <Guest2030> that guy has for example core at 47C but memory at 92C, probably doing memory intensive stuff and not core. But these temps can go even higher when gpu is at 100% use, which is why it would be good to know
[13:11] <masber> hi, I am testing a local repo, at the moment I am getting this error `... No system certificates available. Try installing ca-certificates.` fro the client when running `apt update` how can I tell client to ignore the certificate for testing purposes?
[13:12] <Guest2030> oerheks it might have not been relevant before, but for gddr6x it is relevant. There has been a forum post about it since feb 13, and nvidia basically just implied its a 3rd party thing at end of thread: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/request-gpu-memory-junction-temperature-via-nvidia-smi-or-nvml-api/168346
[13:12] <oerheks> Guest2030, you might want to put that question on askubuntu, more viewers
[13:16] <oerheks> masber, is this local repo with our packages, or your private ones?
[13:17] <masber> ubuntu packages
[13:17] <masber> it is pointing to ubuntu repos (main, restricted, universe and multiverse)
[13:17] <masber> nothing else
[13:21] <oerheks> i see tons of guides for a local http mirror, you only need certificates when you use https?
[13:23] <oerheks> i would not use " APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "true";  >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/74345/how-do-i-bypass-ignore-the-gpg-signature-checks-of-apt
[13:23] <oerheks> more;  https://www.claudiokuenzler.com/blog/1088/how-to-solve-apt-error-server-certificate-verification-failed
[13:32] <jsmooth> I have two USB drives connected to USB hub, they both display as ESD-USB, I'd like to rename at least one of them to be more descriptive.
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> jsmooth: disk tools lets you format/rename your medium
[13:41] <TJ-> jsmooth: if that is the file-system label, change the file-system label
[13:44] <ioria> jsmooth, you need first to umount it and then click the 'gear' icon
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:01] <kirk781> BluesKaj, hello
[14:01] <BluesKaj> hi kirk781
[14:02]  * kirk781 is feeling the blues today :p
[14:05] <BluesKaj> oh, what's the issue?
[14:50] <kirk781> General sadness, I presume
[15:10] <Gallomimia> software updater refuses to leave me alone. i took advice in here to stop it using text file configs but it did not work
[15:29] <kryten> Gallomimia: Did you disable the autostart item yet which is shipped as '/etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop'?
[15:32] <Gallomimia> ah.... no
[15:50] <Peanut> Howdy - I've just rebooted a Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS machine, and it seems to have lost its ability to use unqualified hostnames after the reboot. The network interface is configured in Network Manager, and has the right search-domain set (verified  in nm-connection-editor). If I do 'resolvectl query hostname' it works, but ping returns 'temporary failure in name resolution'.
[15:51] <Peanut> The machine has a fixed IP configured (which hasn't changed).
[15:51] <alkisg> Does `cat /etc/resolv.conf` show `nameserver 127.0.0.1; search your-domain`?
[15:52] <Peanut> No, it shows 'nameserver 127.0.0.53' and a warning that the file has been generated by resolvconf.
[15:52] <leftyfb> Peanut: systemd-resolve --status | grep -A3 "DNS Servers"
[15:52] <Peanut> It is using the "systemd-resolve stub resolver"
[15:53] <alkisg> Peanut: did you upgrade that box from 16.04? Do you have a need for resolvconf?
[15:53] <leftyfb> alkisg: lets figure out what's wrong before ripping things out
[15:53] <Peanut> leftyfb: It is showing the correct two internal DNS servers (that I run). I upgraded it from 16.04 long ago, via 18.04. Didn't change anything today.
[15:54] <leftyfb> Peanut: ok, lets clarify, do you have problems resolving external, local or both?
[15:54] <alkisg> leftyfb: wouldn't it be better to revert it to something similar to a vanilla 20.04 installation, that doesn't have resolvconf?
[15:55] <alkisg> Keeping resolvconf, when by default it's not there anymore, will just make troubleshooting harder for him, both now and in the long run...
[15:55] <Peanut> The problem I have is that short (unqualified) hostnames suddenly give an error. So these are DNS entries in our local authoritative DNS server.
[15:55] <leftyfb> alkisg: the fact that systemd-resolved --status returned means we are fine
[15:56] <leftyfb> Peanut: ok, so only local names are failing. Did you see the domain name in the results as well?
[15:56] <Peanut> And I can resolv the hostnames if I give the FQDN, just the short names don't work.
[15:56] <leftyfb> Peanut: under "DNS Domain:"
[15:57] <Peanut> Yes, the 'DNS Domain' section lists: "~. mydomain.tld subdomain.mydomain.tld"
[15:57] <leftyfb> Peanut: ok, next test
[15:57] <leftyfb> Peanut: host <hostname> ip.of.ns1      then host <hostname> ip.of.ns2
[15:59] <Peanut> Gives a servfail in each case. If I replace 'hostname' with 'FQDN', it resolves correctly on both nameservers.
[16:00] <leftyfb> damn, so sorry, have to run out the door
[16:01] <Peanut> leftyfb: Thanks for the help so far.
[16:01] <alkisg> I will also need to leave in a few minutes; what I propose is to remove resolvconf, and to revert the /etc/resolv.conf file to be a symlink to ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf, so that it's managed by systemd-resolved
[16:02] <alkisg> Then systemd will add the `search xxx` line in that file, and libc will be able to use it when running `host xxx`
[16:02] <alkisg> Troubleshooting why resolvconf didn't put search xxx there isn't really useful as it's not installed at all in newer installations, it's only there because it was used in 16.04
[16:03] <Peanut> Removing the package is easy - should I create the symlink manually?
[16:04] <alkisg> If I recall correctly, the resolvconf postinst doesn't restore the symlink, so yeah you'd need to create it yourself
[16:05] <alkisg> It's also possible that a reboot might be needed
[16:05] <Peanut> Ewww :) Ok, I'll try a reboot if creating the symlink didn't work.
[16:13] <Peanut> Removing the package does indeed recommend doing a reboot...
[16:13] <Peanut> Although even without the reboot it does seem to have fixed the issue. Rebooting anyway.
[16:13] <Peanut> (old machine, will take a while)
[16:15] <Gallomimia> kryten, thanks i moved the file in question to a disabled directory in /etc/xdg find out tomorrow if it worked
[16:16] <marc_> IPMIView is there a apt-get package i can install to get this its a SUPERMICRO board
[16:17] <Gallomimia> i must say at this time... upgrading from older versions of ubuntu has never worked in my favor
[16:17] <oerheks> marc_, can you explain what supermicroboard?
[16:17] <masber> hi, checking my repo file, I can see this `deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ bionic-updates main restricted`
[16:17] <Gallomimia> after 5 years, a clean install might help a lot of things
[16:17] <masber> how does apt knows the url for bionic main?
[16:17] <marc_> SUPERMICRO server board dual processor
[16:17] <oerheks> masber, it is in that line > http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[16:18] <Peanut> alkisg: Fixed, removing the resolvconf package was sufficientl.
[16:18] <alkisg> 👍️
[16:18] <marc_> https://www.supermicro.com/en/solutions/management-software/ipmi-utilities
[16:19] <masber> bionic main is this one `http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/`
[16:19] <masber> isnt it?
[16:19] <oerheks> !find impi
[16:19] <oerheks> oops
[16:20] <masber> or not, does not need a Release file?
[16:20] <oerheks> !find iomi
[16:20] <oerheks> !info freeipmi
[16:20] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freeipmi
[16:21] <rangersmyth> Hey all, an irc question for anyone. I made this account yesterday, registered with NickServ, logged back in here and today it's saying my password is incorrect and I am not sure what to do next, I asked for a password reset and I can't login that site either. Any suggestions please?
[16:21] <marc_> ok i installed freeipmi that how do i launch it
[16:21] <oerheks> rangersmyth, ask in #libera
[16:23] <oerheks> masber, do you get any errors? if not, it has found the releasefile
[16:23] <rangersmyth> will do oerheks
[16:30] <marc_> Anyone know how to install this https://www.supermicro.com/en/solutions/management-software/ipmi-utilities
[16:31] <oerheks> sudo apt install freeipmi  # and hit enter
[16:32] <oerheks> i gave several links to the package, sure you will find a howto
[16:32] <marc_> yea but how do you lanuch that as a graphical interface
[16:32] <oerheks> dunno, find a manual, maybe it is a service only, no gui?
[16:32] <oerheks> = commandline
[16:33] <oerheks> https://github.com/ipmitool/ipmitool says so
[16:33] <marc_>  thing is that software i just posted if for my board just need to know how you install it
[16:33] <oerheks> surprise... http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/impish/man1/openipmigui.1.html
[16:34] <oerheks> 'freipmi' is your keyword to look for
[16:34] <ioria> openipmigui - GUI interface to an IPMI system
[16:35] <oerheks> https://manualzz.com/doc/4146479/gnu-freeipmi-user-s-guide
[16:35] <oerheks> this is the last url..
[16:35] <ioria> marc_, might be 'openipmigui' whar you are looking for
[16:37] <lacrymology> my browser (chrome) doesn't seem to find my webcam. It shows up fine in cheese
[16:37] <marc_> says package dont exist
[16:38] <oerheks> !info openipmigui
[16:38] <ioria> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/impish/man1/openipmigui.1.html
[16:38] <oerheks> weird
[16:39] <marc_> the company that supplies my board has software as i said its just i dont know how to install it
[16:39] <oerheks> !info openipmigui focal
[16:39] <ioria> !info openipmi
[16:39] <oerheks> oh, it is part of the openipmi package
[16:40] <ioria> marc_, the pkg name is just 'openipmi' ; openipmigui  is the command
[16:40] <oerheks> so, there are 2 ways
[16:40] <marc_> ok
[16:40] <oerheks> one is gnu = freeipmi
[16:40] <oerheks> let there be choice :-D
[16:41] <marc_> installed it and says command not found
[16:42] <ioria> marc_, dpkg -L openipmi  | grep bin
[16:43] <oerheks> !info ipmitool
[16:46] <marc_> ok thanks for the help but these programs are no good i need the one that the company supplies working
[17:17] <masber> where can I see the different options I can use with `apt -o=`??
[17:25] <ioria> masber, you mean  stuff like, ' APT::Get::Download-Only  ' etc. etc. ?
[17:29] <masber> ytes
[17:29] <masber> yes stuff like that
[17:30] <masber> I could not find anything in the man page
[17:31] <ioria> https://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
[17:35] <masber> i cant find it in there
[17:36] <masber> for instance this command `apt -o Acquire::AllowInsecureRepositories=true -o Acquire::AllowDowngradeToInsecureRepositories=true update`
[17:36] <masber> im interested inthese parameters `AllowInsecureRepositories`
[17:37] <masber> and I would like to se the whole list of them with their description if possible
[17:41] <oerheks> this is about your local repo?
[17:43] <oerheks> apt conf i guess; http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man5/apt.conf.5.html
[17:44] <masber> yes it is about my local repo
[17:45] <oerheks> hmm i found maybe the answer of no key; https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032020/apt-mirror-key-question
[17:45] <oerheks> this is for a ppa, should be the same trick
[19:10] <BinarySavior> hi i changed my VPS hostname using sudo hostname but then after rebooting it changed back
[19:10] <BinarySavior> is there something i need to do to make it permanent
[19:11] <oerheks> yes
[19:11] <oerheks> !hostname
[19:11] <oerheks> 2 places..
[19:11] <tomreyn> hostnamectl set-hostname <newhostname>
[19:13] <tomreyn> hmm i guess hostnamectl doesn't update /etc/hosts, though, so it's still two places
[19:13] <oerheks> indeed .. i was surprised it does not stick
[19:14] <oerheks> tomreyn, so this factoid is not really complete? hostname <somehostname>   <> hostnamectl set-hostname <newhostname>
[19:17] <tomreyn> oerheks: i believe that "hostname <somehostname>" sets it temporarily, until reboot, "hostnamectl set-hostname <newhostname>" sets it now until reboot, and also after reboot - but neither update /etc/hosts. so probably not complete.
[19:18] <oerheks> oke, both are valid, but do not stick
[19:19] <brutex> what can i use for apt-key
[19:19] <brutex> is deprecated
[19:21] <brutex> https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads?target_os=Linux&target_arch=x86_64&Distribution=Ubuntu&target_version=20.04&target_type=deb_local
[19:21] <oerheks> add-apt-key ?
[19:22] <mybalzitch> Anyone having problems with Entrust L1k certs being revoked in 21.10 ?
[19:34] <oerheks> mybal look for Entrust L1M keys, on their site
[19:34] <oerheks> k >m
[19:36] <tomreyn> your alphabet seems backwards, oerheks ;)
[19:47] <mybalzitch> yeah I downloaded the root cert, added it to the ca-certs config, updated my certs, restarted firefox, and ff still claims its revoked
[19:47] <mybalzitch> so I have no idea
[19:48] <mybalzitch> works in chrome though
[19:49] <oerheks> FF snap or deb?
[19:50] <mybalzitch> deb
[19:50] <tomreyn> there are still firefox deb's for 21.10?
[19:50] <mybalzitch> firefox/impish-updates,impish-security,now 94.0+build3-0ubuntu0.21.10.1 amd64 [installed]
[19:50] <tomreyn> doesn't that just install the snap?
[19:52] <mybalzitch> not according to snap list
[19:52] <tomreyn> hmm right, it looks like a full package
[19:53] <oerheks> Firefox, go to Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Certificates -> View Certificates -> Import.
[19:53] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1315866/how-to-make-firefox-trust-my-companies-certificate-on-my-machine
[19:53] <oerheks> they use their own store
[19:53] <tomreyn> i do think firefox has its separate certificate store either way, though
[19:53] <tomreyn> :)
[19:54] <mybalzitch> this url worked yesterday though
[19:54] <mybalzitch> bleh, such a hack
[19:55] <tomreyn> well, maybe this one domain certificate was really revoked, and for a reason. we could not know
[19:57] <mybalzitch> right, but it works in chrome
[19:59] <tomreyn> maybe chrome is configured to verify certificate validity differently than firefox. ocsp or crl with different schedule, or not at all.
[20:07] <marc_> how do i manuall remove an icon from the apps menue i used wine and then uninstalled wine and it put an icon in the apps section that i cant delete.
[20:09] <oerheks> marc_, logout, login and it should be gone
[20:09] <marc_> I already did that its still there
[20:09] <oerheks> sure you removed all wine stuff? >> snap list
[20:12] <marc_> it just says there are a bunch of libraries that were installed and are now not needed
[20:15] <marc_>  i told it to autoremove all the unused packages
[20:16] <marc_> gonna resart brb
[20:19] <marc_> nope the icon is still there any idea how to manually remove  it
[20:33] <ioria> marc_, find ~/ -type f -name '*wine*'
[20:33] <marc_> YAY! i got rid of it
[20:34] <marc_> ioria its gone there was a directory i deleted it in the terminal
[20:34] <ioria> ok
[20:35] <marc_> ok thanks back laters off to walk the dog.
[21:10] <Aqua-> Hi, i need some live help installing Ubuntu 20.04 from live CD.
[21:10] <Aqua-> I am a long time ubuntu user  (since 14.04) and i usually use the stable versions as they fulfill my needs.
[21:10] <Aqua-> A week ago i decided to try and upgrade my OS from 20.04 to 21.10, but some error occur towards the end of the upgrade and i got a message saying the installation failed.
[21:10] <Aqua-> My computer restarted and it is stuck since then on the loader. I downloaded ubuntu 20.04 to my flash drive and mow i use it to post here and install the OS anew.
[21:10] <Aqua-> Now i've done some reading on the web, and people say one can reinstall the OS without formatting the partition, which will override only the OS folders and keep some user folders as is (for example home folder).
[21:10] <Aqua-> I started the insatller and got to the point where i need to manually choose what to do with the partitions.
[21:11] <Aqua-> If anybody feel confident enough that she/he know how to do it i'd love some help.
[21:11] <Aqua-> and dont worry i will not blame you if the worse case happens. it's on me
[21:13] <alkisg> Aqua-: I don't have much time to do this via IRC, but I help teachers do that all the time; would you like help via screen sharing?
[21:13] <Aqua-> sure. how?
[21:13] <Aqua-> will zoom be fine?
[21:14] <alkisg> Is this ubuntu gnome, or mate etc?
[21:14] <Aqua-> it will take me 5-7 mins to set up
[21:14] <alkisg> No, just vnc, I'll tell you the command
[21:14] <Aqua-> gnome
[21:14]  * alkisg hopes it's not wayland
[21:14] <alkisg> Run these: sudo add-apt-repository universe; sudo apt install -y x11vnc; x11vnc -connect alkisg.ltsp.org
[21:15] <alkisg> I'll move all your old installation in /backup so that you can retrieve whatever you want after the new installation
[21:15] <leftyfb> alkisg: you should try tmate
[21:16] <alkisg> leftyfb: nah I've developed my own apps for that, see epoptes.org
[21:16] <Aqua-> to be honest i dont like the idea of inserting commands i dont know. no offence
[21:16] <Aqua-> zoom will feel safer for me
[21:16] <alkisg> tmate doesn't allow people to share ubiquity etc
[21:16] <Aqua-> you can take control if needed
[21:16] <alkisg> Aqua-: sure; these, install a vnc program from the ubuntu repositories
[21:16] <alkisg> And then connect via vnc to me; there's no third-party software installed
[21:16] <alkisg> I don't have zoom though
[21:17] <leftyfb> alkisg: sure, though not many things can't just be fixed over CLI :)
[21:17] <alkisg> (I'm not even sure if it can work in the live cd)
[21:18] <leftyfb> it can, I've used it
[21:19] <alkisg> Does it require installing a package,or does it run via a browser?
[21:19] <leftyfb> alkisg: it does: sudo apt install tmate
[21:20] <leftyfb> part of the universe repo
[21:20] <alkisg> leftyfb: we're still talking about zoom, right?
[21:20] <leftyfb> alkisg: no, remote ssh
[21:20] <leftyfb> oh, sorry
[21:20] <leftyfb> :)
[21:20] <alkisg> tmate can't help in guiding a person in ubiquity
[21:21] <tomreyn> and vnc is plain text
[21:21] <alkisg> And? There are no passwords involved at that point
[21:22] <leftyfb> alkisg: no passwords involved. They just copy and paste a temporary ssh URL
[21:22] <alkisg> leftyfb: I have made my own tmate implementation long before tmate existed, I know what it is
[21:22] <alkisg> That's why I'm telling you about epoptes.org...
[21:22] <tomreyn> alkisg: please pretend i had not talked, i don't want to complicate it.
[21:23] <alkisg> The text mode is using openssl, it's encrypted
[21:23] <alkisg> But console sharing doesn't help users like Aqua- that need helps in their graphics session
[21:24] <alkisg> Anyway, as I said, it's late here. Cheers guys, see you tomorrow :)
[22:06] <Gallomimia> is the regularly accepted method to install "audacity" through the apt package manager? is this package up to date/
[22:06] <Gallomimia> or a better question, how can i verify this information myself
[22:06] <Gallomimia> instead of bugging y'all
[22:07] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/audacity  <> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacity
[22:07] <Gallomimia> aw snap :(
[22:07] <oerheks> snaps give the latest, 3.x
[22:07] <Gallomimia> i'm unreasonably prejudiced against snaps. but i'll go for it for now
[22:08] <oerheks> https://www.audacityteam.org/download/linux/  gives 3.1.2
[22:08] <oerheks> snaps are oke, just check out systemsettings > applications >audacity > permissions
[22:08] <Aqua-> yep. you can always cross info from their official website. I remember on ubuntu 20.04 the apt version was not the latest. the snap is probably the newest or at least close to that
[22:08] <oerheks> latest does not mean stable
[22:08] <Aqua-> true
[22:09] <Gallomimia> latest stable would be.... what i want. what anyone reasonable would want
[22:09] <oerheks> stable - snap
[22:09] <Aqua-> i usually go to official websites to check for versions
[22:10] <Gallomimia> AppImage is built against the old FFMpeg headers, so system provided FFMpeg won’t work
[22:11] <Gallomimia> le-groan
[22:11] <Gallomimia> perhaps snap it will be
[22:12] <Aqua-> i suggest to look at the website for info. you can choose what you prefer to do once the info is at your hand:
[22:12] <Aqua-> https://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Audacity_Versions
[22:13] <Gallomimia> uh yeah. i just installed via apt and i got 2.4
[22:13] <Gallomimia> so.... wtf?
[22:15] <oerheks> sounds normal, i gave you launchpad to check
[22:16] <oerheks> why surprised?
[22:16] <Aqua-> yep, that's what i remember happened to me via apt. i then uninstalled and reinstalled via snap if i recall correctly
[22:16] <oerheks> one can install them side-by-side
[22:16] <Aqua-> Audacity 2.4 released  on may 2020
[22:16] <Gallomimia> indeed
[22:16] <oerheks> yay, snaps are great
[22:17] <oerheks> appimage and flatpak are so poor, no update mechanism
[22:20] <jkc> flatpak update is so hard.
[22:20] <jkc> "flatpak update"
[22:31] <Asatru> @jkc, why you say that?
[22:32] <orion> Hello. In Ubuntu Server 20.04, how do I configure netplan such that it creates a route identical to what I would get if I ran, "ip route add 1.2.3.4/32 dev foo" ?
[22:32] <oerheks> orion, see https://netplan.io/examples/ ?
[22:32] <orion> According to the documentation, "At least to and via must be specified." (https://netplan.io/reference/#routing)
[22:32] <orion> But I don't want "via"... I want "dev".
[22:34] <jkc> Asatru: I was being sarcastic. The way to update the flatpaks on your system is "flatpak update," so why its being claimed that there's no update mechanism eludes me.
[22:34] <Koffa> probably a recurring question by now but I checked the logs and couldn't find anything relevant... latest chromium snap update broke webgl totally (96.0.4664.45 rev 1827) - reverting to previous version probably wasn't backwards compatible and I'll be spending rest of my weekend logging into sites...
[22:35] <oerheks> jkc, no automatic update, like snaps have
[22:35] <orion> If I have a issue/feature request for netplan, where is the proper place to submit it?
[22:37] <oerheks> i would do a launchpad post, or join #netplan
[22:37] <orion> Oh, nice, they have a channel.
[22:44] <BinarySavior> is there a way for me to cast my screen to my samsung tv using screen mirror in ubuntu?
[22:46] <oerheks> chrome can
[22:47] <oerheks> with some sort of anycast/chromecast plugin
[22:48] <Gallomimia> i struggle to decide if i should just start doing the voice recording i planned so long ago with just an SSD or wait until i get the platters online and configured
[22:48] <Gallomimia> should be fine in the short term ya?
[22:49] <Gallomimia> 670g avail
[22:49] <oerheks> voice does not take that much space
[22:51] <Gallomimia> i'm more thinking about whether i want to thrash the drive with it or not. but i guess it won't be much of an issue
[23:01] <mago> Hi, I have trouble with the ftdi enumeration driver and process
[23:01] <mago> If im plugge to the wall and my laptop's battery full it works fine..
[23:02] <mago> But if im unplugged and/or my battery going low enumeration fails..
[23:02] <mago> Can someone explain why?
[23:04] <mago> Someone suggested:  USB power saving maybe?
[23:04] <mago> DOes ubuntu do that when the laptop is unplugged?
[23:09] <oerheks> all i find is 'disable USB auto-suspend' https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/91027/how-to-disable-usb-autosuspend-on-kernel-3-7-10-or-above
[23:12] <oerheks> oh cross posting..
[23:12] <oerheks> !crosspost
[23:45] <dubiago> ubuntu 21.10...how does one turn wifi power management off? seems like pretty much everything out there doesn't work--rc.local, creating a service to run iwconfig wlan0 power off automatically...
[23:47] <oerheks> check out TLP ?
[23:47] <oerheks> !info tlp
[23:49] <oerheks> nice article with hints about systemd-rfkill.service https://www.linuxhowto.net/how-to-optimize-laptop-battery-life-with-tlp-in-linux/